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Been reading the forums here and it seems like this has a lot of issues, especially for the EU region. No LTE 800 / 700 bands, bad GPS sometimes, bloatware and the MIUI 7.0/8.0 is something you/I don't want, but there are no really good alternatives (or are there?).
Anything else you guys could come up with or think of? :fingers-crossed:
Edit: Anyone that has fixes for all these issues / concerns / deviations?
I got a Mi5 2 weeks ago, unlocked it and tried diffrent custom roms. All worked pretty well, I really liked the phone.
I switched from an iphone 6, so wasnt that used to Android.
A few days ago I switched to MIUI 8 from xiaomi.eu and I really love it. Everything Works really smooth and think the phone is great.
Only bad thing is the missing band 20. It Works ok for Me anyway, but I lose connection in done areas.
So if you get the phone, give MIUI 8 a Chance, you might like it.
MIUI 8, hmm I'd like something more normal Andy and B20 and those, that's a big issue here. I like the name though Mi 5. Sounds British.
Seems like this one is a dead end though, might just give up on it.
I just bought a Mi 5 (64GB, 3GB) to replace my LG G2, gave in to temptation after the recent price drop. I've been meaning to buy a new phone for a while but never found anything that ticked all my boxes so decided to get something cheap and I really need a dual-sim phone right now.
First time I bought a Chinese branded phone after reading lots about them. Lots of threads about bugs and issues with ROMs etc.
Mine is a 3rd party China import set so the first thing I did was to flash a fresh official rom (it came with China rom MIUI v7) and do a factory reset. I spent a lot of time deciding whether to stick with the China rom or try the official Global rom or even the Xiaomi EU unofficial rom. In the end I installed the China MIUI v8 rom to give it a try (I heard that the Global rom doesn't perform as well) and that did not require unlocking the bootloader.
I can happily say that the phone is wonderful. So far has exceeded my expectations. Very smooth and snappy. Lots of customisation settings to play with. There is no bloatware, depends on your definition I guess. There are a few apps meant for local Chinese which are quite well done and interest me but nearly all of them can be uninstalled.
MIUI software is fine just not a fan of MIUI launcher though. Bit too basic and childish for me so installed Google Now launcher.
Build quality is great on mine. GPS works great. Camera is very good but not the absolute best. Fingerprint scanner is fast. Dual-sim works 4G+3G which is quite rare. Battery life is brilliant for me. My usage (social media, messaging, email, maps etc..., but no gaming) gets me a day and a half.
Can't help with the lack band support though (I live in Asia).
My 3T has arrived, and I want to migrate from my 5X. I have a couple of questions:
Which ROM?
I know this has been discussed ad-infinitum, but I can't see the forest for the trees. I see lots of discussion about Oxygen vs CM / Lineage / Paranoid Android / AOSPE. I can say that even though I'm a "power user" in that I use my phone a lot, I am happy to stay close to the vanilla Android experience with minimal bloatware / "custom" experiences. I will need root for Titanium Backup, Greenify(*), Xposed, and perhaps a couple of other apps. In the olden days, I used CM on my HTC Desire and Moto G, but my Nexus has been just great with the factory ROM. I'm looking for maximum stability rather than tweakability that I'll never use. And sorry for being lazy, but I don't want to try ten ROMs to see what suits me, it will just become a pain.
How to migrate my apps and data?
Just use Titanium Backup? It's worked well for me in the past between different handsets. Or is the Google Android sync working well these days, and everything will just sync when I sign in with my Google Account?
(*) Is Greenify still regarded as useful on a 3T?
OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
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I don't doubt that, I was looking for more of a comparision.
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OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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I do take a lot of photos (snaps, for serious stuff I use a DSLR), so camera quality is important to me. However if we're talking about a small difference between cameras, and the Lineage camera is still fine for most use, I don't think I would use camera quality as a single reason to prefer one ROM to another. Anything else good / better about OxygenOS, or is it mostly bloatware (for someone like me who's quite vanilla ).
It will be weird but good going back to Lineage, as a CM user from many years ago. What about AOSP(E)? Does it feature in the equation?
On one hand, I love the developer-friendliness of OnePlus, on the other hand, there's so much contradictory information out there, it's hard to know what's real. Some people say the cameras are night and day, some say they're similar. Some say battery life is night and day, some say similar. I just edited my original post because I read that Paranoid Android might be a contender... You get my point...
From what you say, I'll definitely use Titanium. I've been with it for years, so I know where I am. In fact, maybe I should stop Google installing the apps so I can do it with Titanium?
I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
i have been use all rom and the best still oxygen os very stable and minimum bloatware best rom so far but now i tried AOSPA and great but i think the oxygen is best
If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
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If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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PA 7.2.3 is android 7.1.2 like other custom roms based on aosp/linage , 2.3 is just their name they call that rom,
And about long term support, here in XDA, we all knows every devs have their life, they could drop their project for works family...
we can't blame them:fingers-crossed:, since we pay nothing but "likes" for their works, PA may discounted, FreedomOS too.But there will many good devs here, in XDA create new good rom for us,
Did you have an nexus5 before?i run it great for years with slimkat, DU... then google dropped support for it and slim disappear, but even now, nexus 5 still can run good with android 7.1.2 Darkrom. and even Gcam with HDR+ from pixel, So dont worry about support. we're in XDA, with little search, try few roms for days, then choose your favorite :good: I'm currently running Viper with google cam, but maybe i will add lastest freedomos as secondary in multirom.
Enjoy your phone,
Oh wow, how silly do I look with the version numbers... Thanks for the clarification!
I wouldn't blame any open source development for not having time, but equally I'd rather use a ROM that gets updated in a reasonable (not quick) time. I just don't have time to spend hours researching every few months.
I have a Nexus 5X, running 7.1.2 from Google, with minimal tweaks. SuperSU, Titanium, Greenify (is that still a thing that people use), AdAway. I've been really happy with that setup.
So it's a funny decision:
PA based on AOSP with many useful things added.
FreedomOS based on Oxygen with non-useful things removed, and a few useful things added?
Did I sum it up reasonably?
Also, are these statements relevant / true?
PA is CAF-based and FreedomOS isn't? If so, should I care?
FreedomOS has Viper4Android and ARISE, which as a music fan I should care about? Or is it just fake audio processing, which actually makes the audio less natural? I'd never heard of either until I started reading about 3T ROMs.
hi there, i got mi 9T pro with EEA, i used to have a oneplus phone, i wanted to have a stable and fun time with the phone, i flashed lot of roms but at the end of the day i flashed other rom and keep going on this cicle, currently i dont know for real what to do sense idk if i can trust custom roms for daily driver has basic stuff might become broken , i am currently using xiaomi.eu stable, but i miss the lack of smothness and customization tho, i love the device but software side not so much, what can i do? really would like a opnion, what rom should i use for flash and forget?, what if the dev abandons the rom what can i do then?
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hi there, i got mi 9T pro with EEA, i used to have a oneplus phone, i wanted to have a stable and fun time with the phone, i flashed lot of roms but at the end of the day i flashed other rom and keep going on this cicle, currently i dont know for real what to do sense idk if i can trust custom roms for daily driver has basic stuff might become broken , i am currently using xiaomi.eu stable, but i miss the lack of smothness and customization tho, i love the device but software side not so much, what can i do? really would like a opnion, what rom should i use for flash and forget?, what if the dev abandons the rom what can i do then?
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You have an ORD as much of us here. The only cure (if there's such thing) is using an apple phone. Many already did that, but after some time they bought again an Android. What I do, I use only Los currently Los 17.1. No major bugs, a good daily driver. I can't use anything than aosp for much time, in this case miui ROMs. At the time the devs abandon this device you probably already bought alot of other devices, so don't bother about ROMs support for this device. Check for help here instead.
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You have an ORD as much of us here. The only cure (if there's such thing) is using an apple phone. Many already did that, but after some time they bought again an Android. What I do, I use only Los currently Los 17.1. No major bugs, a good daily driver. I can't use anything than aosp for much time, in this case miui ROMs. At the time the devs abandon this device you probably already bought alot of other devices, so don't bother about ROMs support for this device. Check for help here instead.
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thank you, im trying to create a middleman place, like staying stock but with xiaomi.eu but with that the flashing roms emotion begin to stay strong, i will check that ord thing, has im on college it starts to efect my live has im just trying to take the most potention possible out of the device has i like theming and customization, thanks if los oficial i might give it a try i remeber i used to enjoy it
The main reason for 90% of ppl I've talked to and seen online for getting the OP7 Pro was the user experience of Oxygen OS. As a Mi9T Pro user, what ROM will get me closest to this experience since I don't see a Oxygen OS ROM here. I'm sorry if this question has been asked and answered before, I tried searching but nothing similar came up. Thx and any support is much appreciated.
Really i dont understand what ppl are obsessed by Oxygen ROM. user experience? what is better then on any other rom? MIUI is quit same good as oxygen, and well optimised.
I think I've seen an Oxygen OS beta thread.
Personally, I tried few roms but I realised stock MIUI feels the best in terms of speed and everything, which is expected since it's factory optimized.
I removed all the Xiaomi bloatware and installed Google equivalents when needed. I also blocked all Xiaomi tracking and telemetry domains using hosts.
I always install Nova Launcher on every device is buy and customize it for my likings. And then added FNG for totally customize it for comfort.
SwiftKey is my favourite keyboard which I can resize to exact point of comfort for me.
I mean to say that android comes with decent flexibility and options to customize user experience. Personally i feel good with my tuned UX.
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Found the thread for Oxygen OS: https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/oxygen-os-10-3-1-stable-t4046607
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I think I've seen an Oxygen OS beta thread.
Personally, I tried few roms but I realised stock MIUI feels the best in terms of speed and everything, which is expected since it's factory optimized.
I removed all the Xiaomi bloatware and installed Google equivalents when needed. I also blocked all Xiaomi tracking and telemetry domains using hosts.
I always install Nova Launcher on every device is buy and customize it for my likings. And then added FNG for totally customize it for comfort.
SwiftKey is my favourite keyboard which I can resize to exact point of comfort for me.
I mean to say that android comes with decent flexibility and options to customize user experience. Personally i feel good with my tuned UX.
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Found the thread for Oxygen OS: https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/oxygen-os-10-3-1-stable-t4046607
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Well this is the clear example of why Oxygen OS is better than MIUI.
Just take a look at all the changes you had to do to the ROM in order to be satisfied with it... Dude i know most people here are used to change and customize everything but many of my coworkers just to give you an example doesnt even know what a launcher is. When i told them they could change launcher it was like a big surprise to them and i couldnt believe they didnt know that.
So going back to your comment .. the thing is that most ppl wont bother change things like you did and so they will use the ROM as it comes therefore if we compare stock ROMs experiences Oxygen OS beats MIUI so bad, they don't orverload you with apps you probably dont need.
The overall experience eels smooth and simple and sometimes simple is better.
Right now i have a MI 9T Pro yes but i had 7 PRO even 7T and it was the first time for me that i was happy with a stock ROM and didnt want to change, while with MIUI i inmediately change to AOSP Roms.
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Well this is the clear example of why Oxygen OS is better than MIUI.
Just take a look at all the changes you had to do to the ROM in order to be satisfied with it... Dude i know most people here are used to change and customize everything but many of my coworkers just to give you an example doesnt even know what a launcher is. When i told them they could change launcher it was like a big surprise to them and i couldnt believe they didnt know that.
So going back to your comment .. the thing is that most ppl wont bother change things like you did and so they will use the ROM as it comes therefore if we compare stock ROMs experiences Oxygen OS beats MIUI so bad, they don't orverload you with apps you probably dont need.
The overall experience eels smooth and simple and sometimes simple is better.
Right now i have a MI 9T Pro yes but i had 7 PRO even 7T and it was the first time for me that i was happy with a stock ROM and didnt want to change, while with MIUI i inmediately change to AOSP Roms.
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I do find Oxygen OS better than MIUI. But the customizations I mentioned I need to do on every phone, including my old One Plus 6.
I like one plus phones. When buying the new phone OnePlus 7 was obvious choice for me, but lack of pop-up camera, headphone jack, and wide angle camera were deal breaker for me.
i like exploring all kinds of roms, i tried most of the roms for k20 pro.. as i dont like my phone everyday in same looks.
i enjoy using evox type of customizations, but tend to move to stable roms with FP working flawlessly and has call rec ( just in case), i used EU beta roms for long time than indian stock rom ( now on China beta though)
i have seen oneplus 7t .. it seems snappy, mostly due to animations.. but i am sure it Oxygenos will also get bored after a while
but MIUI is not like that every time you get bored.. try some themes, and launchers
i mock my friends, like my phone is on IOS,OxygenOS.. only with a theme change
i have to admit that there are much beautiful in MIUI than in any other
my fav : ios13 x pro by rafael henrique and soo on.
if you like to explore.. there is more chance in k20 pro as we have MIUI and customroms ( even Oxygenos custom rom , which is crippled but yes)
but if i buy oneplus - i wont have MIUI ! .. i call that an added advantage for k20 pro.
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Well this is the clear example of why Oxygen OS is better than MIUI.
Just take a look at all the changes you had to do to the ROM in order to be satisfied with it... Dude i know most people here are used to change and customize everything but many of my coworkers just to give you an example doesnt even know what a launcher is. When i told them they could change launcher it was like a big surprise to them and i couldnt believe they didnt know that.
So going back to your comment .. the thing is that most ppl wont bother change things like you did and so they will use the ROM as it comes therefore if we compare stock ROMs experiences Oxygen OS beats MIUI so bad, they don't orverload you with apps you probably dont need.
The overall experience eels smooth and simple and sometimes simple is better.
Right now i have a MI 9T Pro yes but i had 7 PRO even 7T and it was the first time for me that i was happy with a stock ROM and didnt want to change, while with MIUI i inmediately change to AOSP Roms.
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It kinda is a good example and it also really isn't at the same time. The dude above talks about personalizing his phone to a degree to fit his personal needs, I think everyone of us geeks does something like that. I customize some stuff too, for example the position of icons on my home screen or the quick toggles, gboard settings but these are things we do on every phone. I still agree with your premise tho, I think OOS is a decently cleaner than MIUI out of the box and I really have a lot of criticism for MIUI too but credit where credit is due: MIUI is getting better and better with every iteration (except for maybe MIUI9 to 10) and I'll give them that. Obviously a lot comes down to personal preference and I really like the direction that stock android is going but stock android also kinda sucks to be honest. There's no dual apps, themes just got integrated and are still pretty trash, there's no proper gallery app, no recording app nor screen recording, and they in fact *just* integrated a file manager with android 10 and are still working on a decent picture editor. That's probably the reason why OxygenOS is as popular as it is. It takes stock android direction and adds everything that's missing (and there's a lot missing imo, as I just listed)
Thanks for all the feedback and personalization tips guys. I do like the customization options of MIUI, and the most common and significant problem with MIUI I've come across is the bloatware, and no shortcut to disabling it. Most ppl don't delve into the nitty gritties generally because they don't have the know how and technical expertise to do so, and sometimes bcoz they don't have the time. I love my phone and was just wondering if getting a custom rom was going to significantly increase the UX. I'd upgrade to the K30 Pro, but the lack of even a 90hz screen is off putting. Even the K30 has 120hz, but the Pro got nerfed bigtime.
As far as Custom ROMs for the Mi 9T Pro/K20 Pro goes, which one would you guys suggest?
I've tried Lineage OS and Resurrection. I kept Lineage for few days, which ran nice but had random restarts. Although many other people report it is running without problems.
Finally I came to EEA rom (my phone had Indian ROM originally).
Hi, I have my only good phone which is this redmi note 11. I was wondering if its worth it to flash custom rom and use it as a daily drive either flashing it pixelplusui or pixel experience. Is it gonna make the phone better to use or worsen the experience of this phone.
For me yes you should switch to a custom ROM. MIUI for this device is too nerfed and bugged to begin with. As for experience that depends on your preferred ROM and your device variant (as of now custom ROMs on 4/64 variants too laggy). I personally use Pixel Experience and it definitely made my experience better and what I deserve
Indeed, switching to a custom ROM would improve your experience. I switched to PixelPlus UI because MIUI has so many bugs, flaws, and sporadic app crashes. It was the best decision I ever made. When I flashed the PixelExperience rom, I thought it was a little jittery to use, but PixelPlus UI was the second rom I flashed after that, and it was the best one. I found it to be a lot smoother than PE. I haven't tried EvolutionX or Derpfest, but I plan to someday.
i wouldn't recommend it , i see loads saying yeah do it and then complain about all the bugs in it . have a look at the custom rom posts and see for yourself .
I use latest CrDroid on 4/64 variant and I am 100% satisfied. It's worth to give it a go, or to try some other roms as well. You can always go back to miui if you don't like the experience afterall...
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I use latest CrDroid on 4/64 variant and I am 100% satisfied. It's worth to give it a go, or to try some other roms as well. You can always go back to miui if you don't like the experience afterall...
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Hi Cykip,
If I was to go down custom rom route, I would defo go with what MarvavCZE said... I love CrDroid, have used it for ages on various other devices and it's perfect for me. The amount of pre built-in rom tweaks are amazing, far more than most other roms... I love it, best distro ever....
However, much like The Mero said... I am very happy with stock rom for the time being. This phone is too new (barely 2x weeks old), modern device, and compared to my other phones more expensive. So I am happy with how it works and behaves for now.
Perhaps in a year or two, I may consider it... buts stock for me for time being
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lister is right , phone is too new to have a decent custom rom . it can take months or years to fix bugs .
but if you have an old phone try installing one on that . you'll learn how to do it and if it goes badly at least you wont have wrecked your new one
Xiaomi did not yet release the kernel source code officially, I can only recommend to wait until that happens and official custom roms for this device become hyped. Until then, you cannot expect a daily driver.
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Hi, I have my only good phone which is this redmi note 11. I was wondering if its worth it to flash custom rom and use it as a daily drive either flashing it pixelplusui or pixel experience. Is it gonna make the phone better to use or worsen the experience of this phone.
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Mate look, everyone know Xiaomi stock UI is worst and it's a master copy of IOS. I was facing a number of issues. Flickering, refresh rate jitters, stupid google dialer plus a lot other that I forgot lol
I went with ppui and cherish is but no gcam module was working on em. Now I'm on rice droid and it is smooth as butter
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