Whats Huawei/Honor's policy on rooting the phone? Will it void the warranty (like Xperia's) or is it more like relaxed like Xiaomi? Does the bootloader come unlocked?
And whats the level of bloatware/spyware like on Honor phones and the 9 lite in particular? Is it possible to uninstall all the pre-installed apps or just some it?
barrack1 said:
Whats Huawei/Honor's policy on rooting the phone? Will it void the warranty... Does the bootloader come unlocked?
...Is it possible to uninstall all the pre-installed apps or just some it?
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AFAIK you lose your warranty when you unlock the bootloader. No bootloader is locked when bought.
You can uninstall most of this bloatware, some are protected because they are system related. But no prblem for me.
BTW, already unlocked mine, just waiting for some TWRP and then I will try this LOS thing...
Dio-Genes said:
AFAIK you lose your warranty when you unlock the bootloader. No bootloader is locked when bought.
You can uninstall most of this bloatware, some are protected because they are system related. But no prblem for me.
BTW, already unlocked mine, just waiting for some TWRP and then I will try this LOS thing...
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Do you mean to say new phones do not have a locked bootloader? So why do you have to unlock yours?
barrack1 said:
Do you mean to say new phones do not have a locked bootloader? So why do you have to unlock yours?
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Sorry, forgot a comma: No, bootloader is locked when bought. Never heard of an Android with unlocked bootloader when it's new.
So: Yes, bootloader is locked, you have to unlock it first before you can do anything else...
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How do i tell if my bootloader is unlocked or not?Its the tmobile version on at&t that I bought from google.
why would you buy the tmobile version to use on at&t?
because this was the only one that they offered at that time and there is no 3g hear in my home town
If you have an unlocked lock on bootup.
thanks dont see unlocked lock.i gess i will unlock and root
You don't need to unlock it to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
Yeah, I'd avoid unlocking the bootloader unless you absolutely want to. It's easy to root and then flash a custom recovery without unlocking.
why not unlock bootloader i have no warranty anymore?
IIRC out does void your warranty
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wildchild048 said:
why not unlock bootloader i have no warranty anymore?
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It voids your software warranty but not the hardware one, as far as I know. But it also has an "unlocked" logo during boot-up which might be discouraging to aesthetes.
It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
Paul22000 said:
It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
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Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
efrant said:
Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
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Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
Paul22000 said:
Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
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Yes, unlocking your bootloader = the ability to flash images to your Nexus One using fastboot. That's it.
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
brettbellaire said:
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
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I think you can just root then via SuperOneClick.
I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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arminsoyka said:
I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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You'd see a padlock icon at the bottom of the 'X' screen as you boot up if you are unlocked.
Thanks, so I'm locked.
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I was wandering if there is a way to relock the bootloader, so if my phone bricks, or presents any sort of problems in the future, i can still get the warranty support
If you request an unlock code from Motorola then no, even relocking won't help. If you unlock the bootloader on a non Developer Edition you void your warranty.
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Rhiannon224 said:
If you request an unlock code from Motorola then no, even relocking won't help. If you unlock the bootloader on a non Developer Edition you void your warranty.
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but what if i requested the code and didn't unlocked would it still voided my warranty?
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but what if i requested the code and didn't unlocked would it still voided my warranty?
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Yes, requesting the code voids the warranty.
****, now that everything its ****ed up, i might as well as unlocking this piece
Even if you do/can relock the bootloader it has a separate flag to indicate the warranty is void in the phone.
Savassi12 said:
****, now that everything its ****ed up, i might as well as unlocking this piece
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You didn't take 5 minutes and read that on the page you got the unlock code from? Wow
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Savassi12 said:
I was wandering if there is a way to relock the bootloader, so if my phone bricks, or presents any sort of problems in the future, i can still get the warranty support
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You can relock your bootloader by running fastboot oem lock but this would not restore your warranty. The phone would still show as re-locked instead of locked, so they would still know that it has been unlocked and re-locked. Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
Steve-x said:
Yes, requesting the code voids the warranty.
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I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
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did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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I haven't tried it myself, but i have read about people who have.
soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
Savassi12 said:
soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
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I think so...
mschumacher69 said:
I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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Simply requesting an unlock code will void your warranty.
See below.
c19932 said:
did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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Don't be surprised if/when they deny your request to exchange your phone.
Savassi12 said:
soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
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mschumacher69 said:
I think so...
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Sorry, your warranty disappeared the moment you sent in the bootloader unlock code request.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
You have only yourself to blame. Once you get the unlock code, your device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty; in other words, please don't blame us if things go wrong, even if they appear unrelated to unlocking the bootloader.
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From the legal terms link:
5.The*following*applies*to*all*devices,*except*for*Developer*Edition devices:
Obtaining an unlock code voids all warranties.*Once*you*get*the*unlock*code your device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty,*or*any*other*warranty*provided with the device. Neither Motorola,*nor your wireless carrier shall*have*any*duty*to provide warranty or customer support for unlocked devices.
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mschumacher69 said:
You can relock your bootloader by running fastboot oem lock but this would not restore your warranty. The phone would still show as re-locked instead of locked, so they would still know that it has been unlocked and re-locked. Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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It does and it states that on Moto site when you request the code.
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You do not lose your warranty on these any more. Moto posted this in November.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/11/you-asked-we-listened-announcing.html
mjphillips1981 said:
You do not lose your warranty on these any more. Moto posted this in November.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/11/you-asked-we-listened-announcing.html
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This is just for Dev Editions.
Sorry. I am a VZW customer so when people talk about unlocked bootloaders I think dev edition.
I cant unlock frp as It is grayed out the option of oem unlocking in the dev options
pls I need help
Model : LLD-L21
OS : KangVIP Rom (EMUI 8.0.0)
Bootloader Status : Unlocked
In fastboot it says
Phone Unlocked
FRP Locked
did u try dload method?
yes I tried dload
It did not work
I can't upload zipI will send u the file to unlock frp or you can find that file in telegram group of our device
That wont work...
Go to terminal in root mode and do
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Setprop sys.oem_unlock_allowed 1
Than you can change the value and its not longer greyed out.
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That wont work...
Go to terminal in root mode and do
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Setprop sys.oem_unlock_allowed 1
Than you can change the value and its not longer greyed out.
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If that dosent work you can also follow the below procedure.
Relock your bootloader. Your phone will factory reset and boot. Then head to developer options and you will see oem unlock is not greyed out. Then just enable oem unlocking and unlock the bootloader. When you boot up again you will see that oem is greyed out but it'll be enabled. So you'll have unlocked fastboot and unlocked frp now.
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That wont work...
Go to terminal in root mode and do
If that dosent work you can also follow the below procedure.
Relock your bootloader. Your phone will factory reset and boot. Then head to developer options and you will see oem unlock is not greyed out. Then just enable oem unlocking and unlock the bootloader. When you boot up again you will see that oem is greyed out but it'll be enabled. So you'll have unlocked fastboot and unlocked frp now.
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This will just brick the device.
Fredin_ said:
If that dosent work you can also follow the below procedure.
Relock your bootloader. Your phone will factory reset and boot. .....<snip>.
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Never Ever a good idea to try and relock the bootloader.
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This will just brick the device.
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Sparkrite said:
Never Ever a good idea to try and relock the bootloader.
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Umm why? Its working pretty fine for me. ?
Fredin_ said:
Umm why? Its working pretty fine for me.
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Have you Unlocked, Relocked and then Unlocked again ?
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Have you Unlocked, Relocked and then Unlocked again ?
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I haven't gone that far. I've unlocked and then relocked.
Everything fine. I believe it's completely safe if you have complete stock firmware installed ie, stock rom, stock recovery, stock Kernal and all that stuff. Otherwise you'll end up in a loop. Guess I forgot that part sorry.
So I know this is someone else's thread but can you tell me if I relocked bootloader will the service center be able to know I'd unlocked before? I don't have the phone unlocked warning at boot. Just curious.
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I haven't gone that far. I've unlocked and then relocked.
Everything fine. I believe it's completely safe if you have complete stock firmware installed ie, stock rom, stock recovery, stock Kernal and all that stuff. Otherwise you'll end up in a loop. Guess I forgot that part sorry.
So I know this is someone else's thread but can you tell me if I relocked bootloader will the service center be able to know I'd unlocked before? I don't have the phone unlocked warning at boot. Just curious.
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Hey will it work if I have complete stock firmware like you said? I want to take my device to service centre but my bootloader is unlocked and I have L OS installed. Will relockeing bootloader get me back my waranty?
PS. I have already asked in question and answers section but no reply yet. ?I
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I haven't gone that far. I've unlocked and then relocked.
Everything fine. I believe it's completely safe if you have complete stock firmware installed ie, stock rom, stock recovery, stock Kernal and all that stuff. Otherwise you'll end up in a loop. Guess I forgot that part sorry.
So I know this is someone else's thread but can you tell me if I relocked bootloader will the service center be able to know I'd unlocked before? I don't have the phone unlocked warning at boot. Just curious.
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Some if not all bootloaders nowadays are not "locked" by the manufacturer using a code but are usually "locked" by employing a digital signature and/or a CID (carrier Id) hard coded into the OS. When we "unlock" a bootloader with a code we are simply using a routine written into the loader by the manufacturer to now ignore signatures and/or CIDs of the OS and this allows us to flash whatever we wish.
Sometimes upon unlocking using a code the DS/CID is erased/altered and cannot be retrieved, so not a good idea to relock an altered bootloader.
At least, that is my understanding of it.
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Hey will it work if I have complete stock firmware like you said? I want to take my device to service centre but my bootloader is unlocked and I have L OS installed. Will relockeing bootloader get me back my waranty?
PS. I have already asked in question and answers section but no reply yet. I
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Sparkrite said:
Some if not all bootloaders nowadays are not "locked" by the manufacturer using a code but are usually "locked" by employing a digital signature and/or a CID (carrier Id) hard coded into the OS. When we "unlock" a bootloader with a code we are simply using a routine written into the loader by the manufacturer to now ignore signatures and/or CIDs of the OS and this allows us to flash whatever we wish.
Sometimes upon unlocking using a code the DS/CID is erased/altered and cannot be retrieved, so not a good idea to relock an altered bootloader.
At least, that is my understanding of it.
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That's too bad. Means we won't get back our waranty if we relock it ?. So thanks for the heads up . I'll be careful while unlocking it again (if ever).?
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That's too bad. Means we won't get back our waranty if we relock it . So thanks for the heads up . I'll be careful while unlocking it again (if ever).
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Not necessarily, I doubt if most service centres would bother delving that deep, but maybe some would.
I don't know...........
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Not necessarily, I doubt if most service centres would bother delving that deep, but maybe some would.
I don't know...........
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Thanks for your quick reply but do you know any way to get back CID/DS
No, but I haven't delved that deeply into Huaweis bootloaders, but I NEVER attempt to re-lock them.
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No, but I haven't delved that deeply into Huaweis bootloaders, but I NEVER attempt to re-lock them.
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Anyways thanks for your replies. Means a lot ?
Hello there, I was just wondering if anyone returned their Asus Rog Phone 2 for repair or simply returned it after relocking the bootloader.
On XDA there is a great guide on locking the bootloader here https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone-2/how-to/guide-convert-cn-to-ww-rom-26-08-t3961042http://
So would be interesting to see if locking the bootloader is all we need to peacefully rma the phone or does asus have some other sneaky peaky something going on to detect if we ever rooted.
I am perfectly happy with my phone its just some people on my youtube channel were asking if its safe to return after relocking I just said I haven't heard of anyone doing so, so not 100% sure.
Terminal_Heat_Sink said:
Hello there, I was just wondering if anyone returned their Asus Rog Phone 2 for repair or simply returned it after relocking the bootloader.
On XDA there is a great guide on locking the bootloader here https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone-2/how-to/guide-convert-cn-to-ww-rom-26-08-t3961042http://
So would be interesting to see if locking the bootloader is all we need to peacefully rma the phone or does asus have some other sneaky peaky something going on to detect if we ever rooted.
I am perfectly happy with my phone its just some people on my youtube channel were asking if its safe to return after relocking I just said I haven't heard of anyone doing so, so not 100% sure.
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Most Android devices have a record in system chip. Once bootloader has been unlocked it will change status from 0 to 1 and even if you relock the device it will still stay as 1. Since you triggered the log thingy. So Asus techs will still be able to find out that bootloader has been touched. For example on Samsung devices they use something called a KNOX chip and when you unlock bootloader on a Samsung S9 or s10 the Knox chip will break and no longer work and status will say that Knox chip has been triggered with 0 to 1. That's how Samsung finds out if you have unlocked your bootloader on their devices. So Asus have probably a way aswell on their end.
You can return the device for repair but repair service will reject warranty repair and will put a price how much it will cost you to repair the device. Since they will see bootloader has been touched. So then warranty is voided.
I returned my 1st one because of no volte. Bl was unlocked, relocked using asus's app before the tool here was available. No issues, got a full refund.
I doubt they wouldn't repair it under warranty, unless it was actually caused by a bad flash, or something.
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I returned my 1st one because of no volte. Bl was unlocked, relocked using asus's app before the tool here was available. No issues, got a full refund.
I doubt they wouldn't repair it under warranty, unless it was actually caused by a bad flash, or something.
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What Asus app did you use to relock the bootloader? I thought the only way to relock is to use a fastboot command. Asus has an apk for unlocking the phone, haven't heard of one for relocking.
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What Asus app did you use to relock the bootloader? I thought the only way to relock is to use a fastboot command. Asus has an apk for unlocking the phone, haven't heard of one for relocking.
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Sorry, i used app to unlock, and used fastboot to lock
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Sorry, i used app to unlock, and used fastboot to lock
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Ah OK no worries. At least now we know that people can safely return or repair their phones if they relocked the bootloader properly. Thanks for responding.
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Ah OK no worries. At least now we know that people can safely return or repair their phones if they relocked the bootloader properly. Thanks for responding.
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Afaik in EU they cant refuse repairing faulty hardware because you tried a software mod.