So my only complaint so far is the screen sensativity.
I know this doesnt use a capacitive screen, so it needs physical pressure, but it seems to me the glass on the top of the screen makes it need alot more pressure than i'm used to. The middle of the screen seems to be more sensative, and the outside less sensative.
You can test this by putting your finger down on HOME in touchflo, then scrolling to programs and back again. If you pres hard, it will go back and forth. If you use less pressure at home and programs it will load the programs or home screen, as if you released your finger.
So i know there's two reg keys for this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel
By doing a screen slignment and pressing hard with the stylus i get a lower value here, and by pressing lightly i get a higher value here.
So high value = detects lighter press, low value - needs harder press
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
This i'm confused about. I tried setting it to 0, 2, 14, 200, 255, 600, and there's not noticable difference as far as i can see.
Is there some sort of program that can read the the pressure from the screen and display it? This would help make the tests alot more scientific!
Someone posted this tip in the tips and tweaks thread above...maybe useful to you??
One tip for changing the sensitivity if you don't want to mess around in the registry:
- run the Align Screen setting (under Settings/System/ Screen)
- when you press on the 'targets' with the stylus, use VERY light pressure...just enough that the tap is accepted
- I usually tap a few times on each target, starting too lightly, and then gradually increasing the pressure until the tap is taken
- do this for each of the 5 targets
I found this seems to make the Diamond calibrate a higher sensitivity for its touch-screen, so finger touches can be much lighter.
This is probably a safer way to change the sensitivity, as you don't risk putting an invalid number into the registry.
Thanks, i already tried that.
Can someone tell me their value for this key?
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
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Spawn12 said:
Someone posted this tip in the tips and tweaks thread above...maybe useful to you??
One tip for changing the sensitivity if you don't want to mess around in the registry:
- run the Align Screen setting (under Settings/System/ Screen)
- when you press on the 'targets' with the stylus, use VERY light pressure...just enough that the tap is accepted
- I usually tap a few times on each target, starting too lightly, and then gradually increasing the pressure until the tap is taken
- do this for each of the 5 targets
I found this seems to make the Diamond calibrate a higher sensitivity for its touch-screen, so finger touches can be much lighter.
This is probably a safer way to change the sensitivity, as you don't risk putting an invalid number into the registry.
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Tried that, and its really works. Thank a lots.
someone1234 said:
Thanks, i already tried that.
Can someone tell me their value for this key?
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
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the value is 19 in uk device rom.
vijayvasa said:
the value is 19 in uk device rom.
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19 decimal?
I've just about had enough of this touchflo.. pretty but soooo anoying to use
Today on about 3 ocasions i was navigating through it and got a call.. the lights on the touch wheel were flashing and it was playing the ringtone, but the whole phone was frozen for about 4 seconds. Eventually the call popped up and i was able to answer!
I think i'm going to diable it and do my best to make the rest pretty.
You just have to be patient...the roms are not mature yet...
In 3 months you'll see that Diamond will be the best phone out there
I also am trying to find out the best way to configure the finger sensitivity.
HastaSSSS
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In 3 months you'll see that Diamond will be the best phone out there
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yeah but 3 months is a long time... i have to do something to stop myself smashing the phone on the floor on frustration!
for now i'm going to disable touch flow, and i'll come back to it when a new rom comes out.
Have you tried the new rom 1.37.XXX ?
Bye
I have a UK diamond.. so it came with 1.37.405.1
I've just done the "light tap" trick, and now it's perfect...
Could it be that you have a defective device?
Bye
Its better with that 'trick' but still anoying. I have a feeling i'm just too used to a capacitive screen.
The wierd thing is with the light tap the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel ends up back to 30 to 50 decimal.
i only bought it today yet im seriously thinking of taking it back. The iPhone is just the better product, and always will be, unless Microsoft and the software developers get as passionate as those at apple.
Its Laggy
Its un-intuative
The touch screen isnt as sensitive as it should be. (why are they still using resistive touchscreens)
And the opera browser isnt all that either, it doesnt redraw quick enough for the full page display thing to really be all that impressive on zoom in/out and leaves chessboard squared at it struggles and chuggs to redraw.. . .not great, not when the comptetition is as good as it is. . . . .im thinking 3G Iphone, ****ty camera or not.
Loose the 6.1 and stop trying to polish that turd with TouchFlo's. Yeah good effort, but it just aint good enough
J
WM is just a huge resource hog. The touchflo is slow because its a plugin for the today screen, which then calls on windows API's to draw onto the screen.
Its such a long long way round to get to the hardware that its just slow no matter how well u code.
I just hope someone ports android to the diamond, because the hardware is amazing, the OS is a pile of ****!
BTW they use resistive touchscreens to have increased touch resolution. Also a stylus wouldnt work with a capacitive screen.
I prefer to work with resistive LCD than capacitive...
The capacitive have better sensibility, but are less precise...
Although the Diamond LCD is not as sensitive as a capacitive, it's sensitive enough to work well with the fingers...
It's just a matter of tweaking.
HastaSSSS
Resistive screens use a grid of conductive material, sandwitched between the glass and a conductive layer. They alternatly pass an electrical current on each line of the grid along the x and y axis. When you press the screen you touch this grid onto the conductive layer and the current passes through it, which is detected. You can make resistive screen that have a very high resolution of detection, and the resolution is always what you design it to be.
Resistive screens are pressure sensative, and by design can't handle multi-touch.
Capacitive screens use glass coated with a conductive coating. The edges of the screen are connected to conducters. Each conducter has a different frequency oscilator connected.
The capacitance of a human finger changes the impedance of the screen, and so changes the frequency of the oscillator circuit. This gets converted to distance from each oscillator and so a co-ordinate.
The resolution is limited by how acuratly you can detect changes.
Typically in electronics very small changes are hard to measure because they are indistiguishable from noise.
Capacitive screens can handle multi-touch, but the resolution of each touch is decreased in that case.
Capacitive screen resolution is not absolute and can change with increased noise in the system, or by multiple capapcitive effects on the screen - like multiple touches.
Stock N7 16GB
I have always thought the touchscreen on my N7 was a bit jittery, but now I have come to realize the problem is far worse than I originally thought. For example:
Load a webpage
Place a finger on center of screen
Rest palm or other finger on left edge of screen
Display starts moving/pinch scaling like crazy, even if I remove any touch from left side of screen and keep only 1 finger on center screen.
Almost all the time the touch on my N7 jitters/moves around a bit which causes issues with swiping. If I place 1 finger in the middle of a web page, it moves around slightly even if my finger isn't moving.
I think for these reasons I will be returning this tablet.
Rob
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Stock N7 16GB
I have always thought the touchscreen on my N7 was a bit jittery, but now I have come to realize the problem is far worse than I originally thought. For example:
Load a webpage
Place a finger on center of screen
Rest palm or other finger on left edge of screen
Display starts moving/pinch scaling like crazy, even if I remove any touch from left side of screen and keep only 1 finger on center screen.
Almost all the time the touch on my N7 jitters/moves around a bit which causes issues with swiping. If I place 1 finger in the middle of a web page, it moves around slightly even if my finger isn't moving.
I think for these reasons I will be returning this tablet.
Rob
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I'm having issues with the screen too. For me, it seems worst when it boots up. my example was playing Angry Birds Space - I can't control it, then suddenly it releases and (if a bird with an action) performs the action. any known fixes?
i had same problem think i found a fix
I had same problems with my nexus 7 but it started after i installed dead triger i also noticed tablet dosint come with stock file manager so i installed the same game on my asus tf300 and noticed same issues on my nexus i did a factory reset and cant make screen get any dead spots hope this helps you out
I had that once the other day. I had to reboot it was so bad. Almost felt like the tablet was laggy. Hasn't happened again though.
I do have Dead Trigger installed as well, but I haven't played it in a long time.
Hi verygreen -- I can't post in your thread.
Just wanted to let you know a few things.
I am using the B&N branded "antiglare" screen protector on an HD+. It makes the beautiful screen somewhat sandy, but it is better than the oil streaks that my fingers leave behind. Too bad SGP doesn't make one for it.
My reported Lib version is 0x54 0x27 -- I purchased it around Father's Day.
I find that the stock sensitivity isn't very good. The screen has two faults: First, it will ignore about 20% of my taps. Second, it "wiggles" when I hold my finger down on the screen. My finger is not moving, but if I hold down on a window that can move completely in two degrees of freedom (e.g. is not constrained), the display "jitters" or "wiggles" a little bit.
When I increase the Touch Detect threshold to 9 or A, my sensitivity issues seem to go away. However, changing none of the vars appears to make the jitter go away.
Just a few thoughts. Hope this helps.
Guys, i just discovered something amazing!
You know when you're adding a new fingerprint to the list and you have to swipe the scanner 8 times? Well, nobody said it had to be that same finger, all eight times.
I was able to register all my fingers because with this method i have 24 (3 x 8) places to store fingerprints.
I've seen posts where a dude asked if there was a mod to register more than 3 prints, well it was just that easy!
Can't say if it affects the accuracy of recognition as i found this only 5 minutes ago but so far it seems fine with all fingers.
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Guys, i just discovered something amazing!
You know when you're adding a new fingerprint to the list and you have to swipe the scanner 8 times? Well, nobody said it had to be that same finger, all eight times.
I was able to register all my fingers because with this method i have 24 (3 x 8) places to store fingerprints.
I've seen posts where a dude asked if there was a mod to register more than 3 prints, well it was just that easy!
Can't say if it affects the accuracy of recognition as i found this only 5 minutes ago but so far it seems fine with all fingers.
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I registered the dominant thumb twice (2x8, yielding 16 prints of one finger), which resulted in much improved recognition.
I suspect that even though you were able to register more fingers, the real life performance of the finger print scanner will be potentially impacted in a negative way since the database of each finger is scarce. In an less than ideal environment such as when you are walking, you might experience poor recognition in the long run requiring more swipes.
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I registered the dominant thumb twice (2x8, yielding 16 prints of one finger), which resulted in much improved recognition.
I suspect that even though you were able to register more fingers, the real life performance of the finger print scanner will be potentially impacted in a negative way since the database of each finger is scarce. In an less than ideal environment such as when you are walking, you might experience poor recognition in the long run requiring more swipes.
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I too registered my primary thumb 16 times.
The first time i set it up, i registered my thumb 8 times vertical and 8 times horizontal. I have large hands so i'm able to unlock and swipe with one hand, but i thought it would register the horizontal one as another print.
After a week i removed the horizontal one by accident. I could still unlock it horizontally or in any other direction for that matter, but the acuracy did indeed suffer from that.
I would suggest registering 2 sets (2x8) of your primary unlock finger and the last one a bunch of random fingers or even a finger of your SO.
Never even thought about sideways swiping until now. Plus it is pretty accurate using multiple fingers within the 8 scans. Thanks!
mediumsteak said:
I registered the dominant thumb twice (2x8, yielding 16 prints of one finger), which resulted in much improved recognition.
I suspect that even though you were able to register more fingers, the real life performance of the finger print scanner will be potentially impacted in a negative way since the database of each finger is scarce. In an less than ideal environment such as when you are walking, you might experience poor recognition in the long run requiring more swipes.
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I did the same thing, works great :laugh:
I registered my dominant thumb (one handed) for 8 times vertical swipe and 8 times for horizon swipe. Registered thumb from second hand for 8 times vertical swipe. In one handed use, it works better by moving menu button to top with vertical swipe. These directions (horizontal and vertical swipes) are reversible. It is more comfortable to swipe menu button at top then at bottom.
I have noticed that the fingerprint sensor on this phone is such a piece of ****. After enrolling my fingerprints as usual, the dumb thing unlocked like twice out of ten tries, it made me so mad. This is what I did to get it to work decently.
When enrolling your fingerprint, make sure to
- don't press on the screen, place it as delicate as an angel's kiss
- try to get as many angles as possible, even following the animation when angling your finger
- also try to get it to record your finger perpendicular to the sensor like in this emoji
When unlocking, make sure to
- Try to center your finger as much as possible with the white circle on the display
- If it doesn't unlock right away, keep your finger there for a couple of seconds. Sometimes it does not unlock immediately
Enroll your main unlock finger twice! This is very important to get it to record as much info on each fingerprint as possible. My thumbs are my main unlocking fingers so I enrolled each one twice. Another trick that helped me was to enroll one finger in normal phone holding position, and the other one in more unusual positions like upside down, with the phone flat on a table, and so on). This wasted 4 out of 5 slots though, only one slot is left for a backup finger.
If you apply a screen protector, delete all your fingerprints and enroll them again using the aforementioned tricks.
After doing this it's almost as reliable as a normal fingerprint scanner. Reliability improved from 2\10 to 8\10.