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I'm sure there's been plenty of posts regarding this (and I'll probably get some flack from moderators), but I thought I should revisit this issue and get everyone's thoughts before I jump on the bandwagon.
Anyone here got the dreaded text, automatically switched, or loss data services altogether simply because you were using the AT&T $15 MediaNet plan? Or better yet, the $10 family plan?
I'm on the $15 plan that was originally used by a lowly 3G featurephone, and have never upgraded to a branded smartphone with AT&T. Just wondering if there are folks with my same situation who've taken the plunge into Nexus One waters. So...are you still swimming?
I've had the $4.99 T-Zones plan since 2008 and it still is going strong. I've never bought a subsidized phone. Not one single complaint. Not on AT&T obviously. Oops.
jacka$$1 said:
I'm sure there's been plenty of posts regarding this (and I'll probably get some flack from moderators), but I thought I should revisit this issue and get everyone's thoughts before I jump on the bandwagon.
Anyone here got the dreaded text, automatically switched, or loss data services altogether simply because you were using the AT&T $15 MediaNet plan? Or better yet, the $10 family plan?
I'm on the $15 plan that was originally used by a lowly 3G featurephone, and have never upgraded to a branded smartphone with AT&T. Just wondering if there are folks with my same situation who've taken the plunge into Nexus One waters. So...are you still swimming?
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In short, your account needs to have smartphone exclusion on it to prevent your data plan from jumping to the $30 smartphone data plan. If it doesn't have this rare SOC code, it's difficult to get, and you won't be able to do much of anything to stop the change from happening.
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In short, your account needs to have smartphone exclusion on it to prevent your data plan from jumping to the $30 smartphone data plan. If it doesn't have this rare SOC code, it's difficult to get, and you won't be able to do much of anything to stop the change from happening.
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I'm aware of the smartphone exclusion status. But no one seems to have a clear answer as to "how" to get that status. Multiple stories abound: I've heard that you have to have had a smartphone with no data prior to Sept '09. I've also heard that folks who have a dumbphone (featurephone) with a 3G data plan ($15) are also excluded because they've never upgraded to a branded smartphone thru ATT. I'm on the latter situation. Does anyone here used to be on the $15 MediaNet+dumbphone combo and are now using a Nexus One?
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I'm aware of the smartphone exclusion status. But no one seems to have a clear answer as to "how" to get that status. Multiple stories abound: I've heard that you have to have had a smartphone with no data prior to Sept '09. I've also heard that folks who have a dumbphone (featurephone) with a 3G data plan ($15) are also excluded because they've never upgraded to a branded smartphone thru ATT. I'm on the latter situation. Does anyone here used to be on the $15 MediaNet+dumbphone combo and are now using a Nexus One?
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If it helps, I never purchased ANY phone through AT&T since I started service with them in mid-2008 since I always used unlocked phones and I still got hit with the text. The only reason I have the smartphone exclusion is because I called AT&T when they switched my data plan automatically and pitched a huge fit. I still can't get them to add it to the other line on my account.
So I guess try to talk to the customer "solutions" team about canceling your service and see if they'll add it for you?
I am using AT&T Nexus One from the day they were out (about 3 weeks now), I am still on $10 family MediaNet plan.
I have never bought smartphone from AT&T, perhaps that is the reason, or they haven't done their sweep yet.
j.bruha said:
If it helps, I never purchased ANY phone through AT&T since I started service with them in mid-2008 since I always used unlocked phones and I still got hit with the text. The only reason I have the smartphone exclusion is because I called AT&T when they switched my data plan automatically and pitched a huge fit. I still can't get them to add it to the other line on my account.
So I guess try to talk to the customer "solutions" team about canceling your service and see if they'll add it for you?
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That makes sense. But have you, or ever, upgraded your plan from a $15 to a $30 plan, and then back down to $15? (Or something to that effect.) I'm just wondering that since you never bought a device from them, a change in your data plan might also trigger the auto-switch? Just covering all bases how an auto-switch (or change in the smartphone exclusion status) can be triggered by either device upgrade or data plan upgrade thru AT&T.
rome425 said:
I am using AT&T Nexus One from the day they were out (about 3 weeks now), I am still on $10 family MediaNet plan.
I have never bought smartphone from AT&T, perhaps that is the reason, or they haven't done their sweep yet.
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Excellent! Good luck on that. Please keep us posted if the status on your data ever changes. I'm gonna try using the N1 under the $15 MediaNet and see how much mileage I can get out of it.
Well; I have some bad news for you guys that think your getting lucky by tricking them.
At&t does not have this phone registered in their system. So if you call them and have them change the IMEI number to reflect this phone, it will come up as unknown. So the only option they have for a data plan is the $15 plan ($10 if you have a family plan).
The only reason why I know this: I came from an iPhone to this, so I had to call them and change the IMEI number.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but as long as At&t does not register this in their system, we will get the cheaper plan.
And usually, unless they sell it, they won't register it. So we are good to go for the life of this phone.
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Well; I have some bad news for you guys that think your getting lucky by tricking them.
At&t does not have this phone registered in their system. So if you call them and have them change the IMEI number to reflect this phone, it will come up as unknown. So the only option they have for a data plan is the $15 plan ($10 if you have a family plan).
The only reason why I know this: I came from an iPhone to this, so I had to call them and change the IMEI number.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but as long as At&t does not register this in their system, we will get the cheaper plan.
And usually, unless they sell it, they won't register it. So we are good to go for the life of this phone.
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You should have a look at: AT&T automatically addining $30 Smartphone Data plan to the unbranded Nexus 1!?
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That makes sense. But have you, or ever, upgraded your plan from a $15 to a $30 plan, and then back down to $15? (Or something to that effect.) I'm just wondering that since you never bought a device from them, a change in your data plan might also trigger the auto-switch? Just covering all bases how an auto-switch (or change in the smartphone exclusion status) can be triggered by either device upgrade or data plan upgrade thru AT&T.
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I'm glad you asked because I did buy two 3GS's from them and flipped them on eBay for a ridiculous profit. I had to call AT&T right after I bought them to have them remove the smartphone data plan since I wasn't using the iPhones anymore.
This could be part of the reason why my account triggered the change.
I have been on a grandfathered-in mediaworks package for ~8 years now ($20 for unlimited data, 1500sms and 200mms). AT&T has never once changed my plan on me and they never will. I'm out of contact
I had the T-Mobile version on ATT shortly after the tmobile versions launch. I was using the 10$ medianet plan for about a week until I got the dreaded text. I thought it was a glitch so I went online and changed it back. A few minutes later, I got the text again. I sold my nexus and bought a milestone until the ATT version came out. I came to the conclusion that I would pay for the 30$ smartphone plan if I was using the ATT version because I would be getting 3G. I just got the ATT version in today and havnt switched plans yet. My buddy works for ATT and asked for my IMEI number to get credit for the switch from medianet to smartphone plan. He called me back saying that my new ATT nexus' IMEI number wasn't registering meaning I could use the media net plan. There have been some rumors that ATT put a cap on the speeds of the media net plan, so he asked me to run a speed test. My speeds show that I was getting normal 3g speeds for my area(786 dl). Ill post again if ATT gets ahold of this batch of IMEI numbers and auto adds the smartphone plan.
nephroid said:
I've had the $4.99 T-Zones plan since 2008 and it still is going strong. I've never bought a subsidized phone. Not one single complaint. Not on AT&T obviously. Oops.
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Do you get 3G with t-zones?
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I had the T-Mobile version on ATT shortly after the tmobile versions launch. I was using the 10$ medianet plan for about a week until I got the dreaded text. I thought it was a glitch so I went online and changed it back. A few minutes later, I got the text again. I sold my nexus and bought a milestone until the ATT version came out. I came to the conclusion that I would pay for the 30$ smartphone plan if I was using the ATT version because I would be getting 3G. I just got the ATT version in today and havnt switched plans yet. My buddy works for ATT and asked for my IMEI number to get credit for the switch from medianet to smartphone plan. He called me back saying that my new ATT nexus' IMEI number wasn't registering meaning I could use the media net plan. There have been some rumors that ATT put a cap on the speeds of the media net plan, so he asked me to run a speed test. My speeds show that I was getting normal 3g speeds for my area(786 dl). Ill post again if ATT gets ahold of this batch of IMEI numbers and auto adds the smartphone plan.
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Excellent! That definitely got me on the bandwagon. Just ordered the N1 and should be getting it Wednesday. I'll keep ya'll posted with the hopes that the IMEI batch for these new N1's will be kept hidden from ATT. Good luck to all!
GldRush98 said:
I have been on a grandfathered-in mediaworks package for ~8 years now ($20 for unlimited data, 1500sms and 200mms). AT&T has never once changed my plan on me and they never will. I'm out of contact
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Incredible! Grandfathered plans are always the best. How long have you had your N1?
I'm confused... Why were you guys giving att the imei #s? I bought my tmobile version unlocked through google and never had to let tmo know... I just dropped my SIM card in from my G1 and went on my way.
So how much data do you guys get for $15?
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So how much data do you guys get for $15?
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UNLIMITED*
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*5 gigs
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So how much data do you guys get for $15?
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Tons. Lotsa lotsa tons.
Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.
Just FYI, if you come to the states and don't have any credit history or SSN for the US, AT&T is going to charge you a HUGE "deposit" in order to open an account.
Whereas, T-Mobile will offer you a Contract Free plan without deposits, but no discounts on phones. This won't be an issue as you already have an N1.
You can get an Unlimited Everything plan (Minutes, Text and Data) for $79.99/mo.
Talderon said:
Just FYI, if you come to the states and don't have any credit history or SSN for the US, AT&T is going to charge you a HUGE "deposit" in order to open an account.
Whereas, T-Mobile will offer you a Contract Free plan without deposits, but no discounts on phones. This won't be an issue as you already have an N1.
You can get an Unlimited Everything plan (Minutes, Text and Data) for $79.99/mo.
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I would very much want to go for T-mobile. But the problem is, most students in my area will be using ATT. Then if I have tmo, no one will call me, or vice-versa
Also, ATT has some sort of agreement with my university (RPI) where they don't charge a steep deposit for students without SSN.
I did a lot of research, and found that tmo is perfect for me, but due to, let's say, "peer pressure", I'll have to go for ATT
just so you know, ATT does not have no contract plans like Tmo does, you will be stuck in a contract if you go the ATT route, unless ATT has changed their tactics recently.
I would definitely want to avoid ATnT, fervently. But, unlike here in India, in USA even incoming calls are charged, so if most people around me are on ATT, I will have to use that, right?
also, isnt there a student (college) discount for tmobile? Im pretty sure there is.
Blueman101 said:
also, isnt there a student (college) discount for tmobile? Im pretty sure there is.
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That's not the real issue.. The problem is the majority. Is there any way to get around it?
Also, my cousin who is already staying there will add me to a family plan of ATT, which will bring down my cost a bit.
Actually, I don't really need 3G at all.. But problem is, ATT will force it on to me
What is the reasoning behind wanting to change to ATT in the first place?
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What is the reasoning behind wanting to change to ATT in the first place?
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I'm currently in India, I will be coming to the US in 15 days. Because most of my seniors and students around my area are on ATnT, won't I have to use ATT? Otherwise no one would be able to call me without both of us incurring charge, except for nights and weekends.
Well if you are on tmo and call someone on att then you will be wasting minutes, but thats normal. My advise if you are still unsure what to do is use tmobile for a month(off contract) then if you needs are not set, either by using all your minutes or what have you, then trade your nexus one in for an att version. Why make a long term 2 year contract without testing the non contract option first.
Thank you Blueman101, nice idea By "off-contract", are you suggesting I go for prepaid? Or "Even More Plus" with Flexpay?
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Well if you are on tmo and call someone on att then you will be wasting minutes, but thats normal. My advise if you are still unsure what to do is use tmobile for a month(off contract) then if you needs are not set, either by using all your minutes or what have you, then trade your nexus one in for an att version. Why make a long term 2 year contract without testing the non contract option first.
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I don't think I'll be able to trade via the official HTC return channel.. I'll have to find a person who is willing to swap with me, right?
rohandhruva said:
Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.
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i may be interested, or rather a friend of mine has at ATT N1 and needs a TMO N1. Send me a PM if interested!
rohandhruva said:
Thank you Blueman101, nice idea By "off-contract", are you suggesting I go for prepaid? Or "Even More Plus" with Flexpay?
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I was suggest the Even More Plus, whether you use flexpay or not is your choice.
rohandhruva said:
I don't think I'll be able to trade via the official HTC return channel.. I'll have to find a person who is willing to swap with me, right?
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Yeah, trading with another person is probably what you will end up doing.
Glad I could help and welcome (in 15 days) to The States.
mcgoo99 said:
i may be interested, or rather a friend of mine has at ATT N1 and needs a TMO N1. Send me a PM if interested!
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Thanks! Sent you a PM.
Blueman101 said:
I was suggest the Even More Plus, whether you use flexpay or not is your choice.
Yeah, trading with another person is probably what you will end up doing.
Glad I could help and welcome (in 15 days) to The States.
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Thank you very much, for both the welcome and the help
Before you do so, consider this in your decision.
- T-Mobile has unlimited data plan and free tethering atm while Att doesn't.
- T-Mobile has cheaper plans that att. Although ATT to T-Mobile phone calls aren't free, there is a certain amount of minutes in your plan you can use during peak hours or calling other phones from another carrier. I don't think you'll go over 500-700 minutes chit chatting with your pals that's what text msgs are for.
- T-Mobile HSDPA (if theres coverage) so depending on your location is faster than att 3G.
rohandhruva said:
Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Cross post of this on market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7247948
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.
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rjhay22 said:
Before you do so, consider this in your decision.
- T-Mobile has unlimited data plan and free tethering atm while Att doesn't.
- T-Mobile has cheaper plans that att. Although ATT to T-Mobile phone calls aren't free, there is a certain amount of minutes in your plan you can use during peak hours or calling other phones from another carrier. I don't think you'll go over 500-700 minutes chit chatting with your pals that's what text msgs are for.
- T-Mobile HSDPA (if theres coverage) so depending on your location is faster than att 3G.
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Thank you. As a student, I don't think I'll be able to afford data/3G on my phone at all, and neither do I really need it. My only intention in switching to ATnT Nexus One is that if ATnT forces a data plan onto me, I'll be able to utilise it. But if there was a way to avoid a data plan altogether, I'd much rather prefer that!
Hmm yes you do have a point that 500 minutes won't be depleted, and I can talk during the off-peak hours. I think I need to re-evaluate my decision. Sigh, this is confusing!
rohandhruva said:
Thank you. As a student, I don't think I'll be able to afford data/3G on my phone at all, and neither do I really need it. My only intention in switching to ATnT Nexus One is that if ATnT forces a data plan onto me, I'll be able to utilise it. But if there was a way to avoid a data plan altogether, I'd much rather prefer that!
Hmm yes you do have a point that 500 minutes won't be depleted, and I can talk during the off-peak hours. I think I need to re-evaluate my decision. Sigh, this is confusing!
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Reading this thread, I think your best bet is:
1. If you cannot find someone to trade before you get here, fly in here, post on Craig's List LOCALLY and trade face to face, it will be faster and no costs to do so.
2. Since you are going to be added to a family plan, then your costs will be MUCH lower and since you are not getting a subsidized phone, they really can't force a data plan on you either way.
3. IF you decide on T-Mobile, see if your friends have the A-List option on their plans. If they do, they add your number and poof, no minutes to call anytime.
Regardless of what you decide, you really don't have to rush to trade your phone before you get here. It will work on AT&T or T-Mobile and it will be faster and easier to swap once you get here. Just keep it in good condition and make sure the one you get works.
Oh yah I remember... If you have the T-Mobile version of the nexus one then it will also work with att. You just can't have 3g on it, which you do not need in the first place. So you really don't need to trade after all.
rohandhruva said:
I would definitely want to avoid ATnT, fervently. But, unlike here in India, in USA even incoming calls are charged, so if most people around me are on ATT, I will have to use that, right?
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You can. Get Unlimited and youll still save money and it doesnt matter!
(Ex-Tmobile Employee)
Thank you all for your help! Coming from India, where the cellular system very different and very cheap, I really need some orientation
Talderon said:
Reading this thread, I think your best bet is:
1. If you cannot find someone to trade before you get here, fly in here, post on Craig's List LOCALLY and trade face to face, it will be faster and no costs to do so.
2. Since you are going to be added to a family plan, then your costs will be MUCH lower and since you are not getting a subsidized phone, they really can't force a data plan on you either way.
3. IF you decide on T-Mobile, see if your friends have the A-List option on their plans. If they do, they add your number and poof, no minutes to call anytime.
Regardless of what you decide, you really don't have to rush to trade your phone before you get here. It will work on AT&T or T-Mobile and it will be faster and easier to swap once you get here. Just keep it in good condition and make sure the one you get works.
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As I said, I really don't want to swap (especially because this N1 has some sentimental value attached to it, too). My only reason behind doing is that ATT will force a data plan on me, and then I will be paying for a facility which I can't use anyway. However, I am relieved to hear that they can't force a data plan if I don't have a subsidized phone. Do I specifically need to request this, or spend hours with a customer support tech fighting over it?
rjhay22 said:
Oh yah I remember... If you have the T-Mobile version of the nexus one then it will also work with att. You just can't have 3g on it, which you do not need in the first place. So you really don't need to trade after all.
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As I said, I am only worried because I heard that ATnT forces a data plan on you if they detect a smartphone. Is there any way to prevent that?
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You can. Get Unlimited and youll still save money and it doesnt matter!
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I don't think I can afford an unlimited plan on Tmo either. And anyway people on ATT will still be charged, so others will be reluctant to call me/accept my calls. The concept of an A-list looks pretty good, though.
So, in the end it all boils down to whether (and how) I can avoid the unnecessary data plan they might add to my line in the family plan
I've had the galaxy note now for about 2 weeks on AT&T...Everything working really well...then:
I got a strange text today that said my phone does not match my data plan and service would be interrupted if I didnt call them.
I called AT&T and the rep said my IMEI matches a galaxy tab (ie. NOT a phone) and I cant keep my data plan. He said the only thing he could give me was a DATA ONLY PLAN and that I wouldnt be able to make calls!
What can I do? Did I just get a stupid rep?
Please help!
I love the Note, BTW and do NOT want to loose it!
EDIT: I did install the Samsung 2.3.6 OTA update about 4 days ago...in case that makes a difference
UPDATE:
I spoke to a different rep who went through all the same crap again. But after much wait time said that he opened a case number for support to address it and that it should be taken care of in 3 business days.
I do have my old unlimited data plan, so I wonder if that is causing the problem.
Just curious though are others having this issue on AT&T?
ATT does not give a **** about what you want. that's the problem. Do consider switching the hell away from them.
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The galaxy note is a cross between a phone and a tab. That's probably why they want to kick you out of your plan and put you in a new one. The irony is that it's going to probably be making an appearance eventually. Try talking to a nother rep.
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Danm I hope this doesn't happen to me.
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Let's guess - you are trying to use the dumbphone plan and got busted.
Usually this happens by:
1) Not using the dumbphone APN and using the smartphone/4g APN. (the dumbphone APN is the cingular 410 one in my FAQ)
2) Accidentally warning AT&T by telling the rep you have a smartphone, or asking for a 4g/smartphone sim card.
When either of the above happens, they generally block medianet to your phone and require you to get a smartphone.
You may be able to play dumb and say, 'oh, I didn't know I couldn't use that phone' then use a dumbphone till they reactivate your data. Then switch back.
But you'll need to figure out what you did wrong or you'll just get locked out in 2 weeks (or sooner) again.
Actually, I am guessing you are totally screwed - they apparently have the IMEI your note registered as a smartphone/tablet.
Even if they reactivate your data with another phone, as soon as you use your Note again, it's going to send its IMEI (which they now know about) and you'll get blocked again.
You're going to have to bite the bullet and get a regular smartphone data plan.
I have always thought it would be a matter of time before either:
1) AT&T starts looking up IMEI numbers differently so they recognize international smartphones. (it's shouldn't be that hard, to be honest)
2) They monitor data usage - dumbphones shouldn't be pulling massive amounts of data, although my friend with a featurephone says she can watch movies.
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
Let's guess - you are trying to use the dumbphone plan and got busted.
Usually this happens by:
1) Not using the dumbphone APN and using the smartphone/4g APN. (the dumbphone APN is the cingular 410 one in my FAQ)
2) Accidentally warning AT&T by telling the rep you have a smartphone, or asking for a 4g/smartphone sim card.
When either of the above happens, they generally block medianet to your phone and require you to get a smartphone.
You may be able to play dumb and say, 'oh, I didn't know I couldn't use that phone' then use a dumbphone till they reactivate your data. Then switch back.
But you'll need to figure out what you did wrong or you'll just get locked out in 2 weeks (or sooner) again.
Actually, I am guessing you are totally screwed - they apparently have the IMEI your note registered as a smartphone/tablet.
Even if they reactivate your data with another phone, as soon as you use your Note again, it's going to send its IMEI (which they now know about) and you'll get blocked again.
You're going to have to bite the bullet and get a regular smartphone data plan.
I have always thought it would be a matter of time before either:
1) AT&T starts looking up IMEI numbers differently so they recognize international smartphones. (it's shouldn't be that hard, to be honest)
2) They monitor data usage - dumbphones shouldn't be pulling massive amounts of data, although my friend with a featurephone says she can watch movies.
- Frank
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I'm not sure what the official data plan name is called, but I dont think it's a "dumbphone" plan...It's unlimited data & text, and I've used it for years, lastly for 18 months with the dell streak 5 without issue (well, without issues beyond the usual with AT&T!)
I hate the fact that the force you to have a data plan. I'm on tmo and they offer a pay as you need plan. Cost me zero bucks unless I need data. I also have mifi from Vzon if im not by a wifi spot. This works great for me and my family.
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Go to an AT&T store, show them your phone & get a real smartphone plan.
I just got the same text and email today. I have had my phone for about 5 days now. I have the iPhone unlimited data plan. I'm wondering if it has to do with flash being on the note or maybe the h+ speeds I'm getting. Are there specific apn settings that I'm supposed to put in? I want to call them but I also don't want to give them my imei number. I paid to much for this phone not to be able to use it.
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I'm not sure what the official data plan name is called, but I dont think it's a "dumbphone" plan...It's unlimited data & text, and I've used it for years, lastly for 18 months with the dell streak 5 without issue (well, without issues beyond the usual with AT&T!)
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Which one, though? how much are you paying for month?
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Funny, I also got this text/email from AT&T today. I opened a new thread at the Q&A forum. Didn't know there was a thread already.
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I just received a text and email from AT&T today saying they disabled my data because they detected that I put my sim card into a data connect device. When I called to question them about it, they said their system detected my phone as the Samsung GT-P7501. I googled this model # and it's the new Germany version of the Samsung Tab 10.1. I really don't understand how or why their system detected this model. I don't think it's even possible to buy this tablet at the moment! Did any one else encounter a similar problem?
I was on the $10 unlimited data plan and used the wap.cingular APN setting.
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This could be a huge problem.
They could be lumping the Galaxy Note with the Galaxy Tab 7.
I recall AT&T isn't allowing the Galaxy Tab 7 to receive phone calls, as they consider it a tablet even though it has a cellular antenna. They only offer a data plan for it.
If they try to pull the same stunt on the Galaxy note, this could be trouble.
This will have to be escalated somehow. Keep us informed.
- Frank
starbuck123 said:
Funny, I also got this text/email from AT&T today. I opened a new thread at the Q&A forum. Didn't know there was a thread already.
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I just received a text and email from AT&T today saying they disabled my data because they detected that I put my sim card into a data connect device. When I called to question them about it, they said their system detected my phone as the Samsung GT-P7501. I googled this model # and it's the new Germany version of the Samsung Tab 10.1. I really don't understand how or why their system detected this model. I don't think it's even possible to buy this tablet at the moment! Did any one else encounter a similar problem?
I was on the $10 unlimited data plan and used the wap.cingular APN setting.
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That's your problem. I bet if you had a legit 4G smartphone plan, you would of never gotten a call from AT&T.
ChodTheWacko said:
This could be a huge problem.
They could be lumping the Galaxy Note with the Galaxy Tab 7.
I recall AT&T isn't allowing the Galaxy Tab 7 to receive phone calls, as they consider it a tablet even though it has a cellular antenna. They only offer a data plan for it.
If they try to pull the same stunt on the Galaxy note, this could be trouble.
This will have to be escalated somehow. Keep us informed.
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I have a Galaxy Note on an unlimited 4G plan using the 4G APN & I have yet to get a call from AT&T. I'm sorry but if the OP was using a MediaNet plan & used the wrong APN, its his fault & not AT&T.
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I have a Galaxy Note on an unlimited 4G plan using the 4G APN & I have yet to get a call from AT&T. I'm sorry but if the OP was using a MediaNet plan & used the wrong APN, its his fault & not AT&T.
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I have the same problem and I NEVER used the 4G APN setting. I know better, I always use the wap.cingular APN setting. The strange thing is, they didn't detect it as a smartphone, they detected as a tablet from another country that was just released a couple of weeks ago?
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That's your problem. I bet if you had a legit 4G smartphone plan, you would of never gotten a call from AT&T.
I have a Galaxy Note on an unlimited 4G plan using the 4G APN & I have yet to get a call from AT&T. I'm sorry but if the OP was using a MediaNet plan & used the wrong APN, its his fault & not AT&T.
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Why would I be on a legit 4G plan when they shouldn't be able to detect it as a smartphone? This is part of the beauty of buying an international phone, AT&T can't detect (usually) what you're using so you can use the cheapest plan possible. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who does this. I been doing this since the original galaxy phone came out and never had a problem.
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I have the same problem and I NEVER used the 4G APN setting. I know better, I always use the wap.cingular APN setting. The strange thing is, they didn't detect it as a smartphone, they detected as a tablet from another country that was just released a couple of weeks ago?
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AT&T is getting smart & starting to crack down on ppl having an international phone & using a medianet plan. AT&T probably has people reading sites like this & know of the loophole.
So would it be better for us to go to an AT&T store or to just call customer service from our phone? I figured that if we went to the store then they could at least see that it's a phone and not a tablet.
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So would it be better for us to go to an AT&T store or to just call customer service from our phone? I figured that if we went to the store then they could at least see that it's a phone and not a tablet.
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Go to an AT&T store & have the rep see it's actually a phone & get a 4G smartphone plan. Don't deal with CS on the phone because they can't see the Note for themselves.
I brought my Note to an AT&T store & they initially asked me if it was a tablet. I told them, "nope, it's a phone". They said, cool & gave me a new sim card after I used my upgrade on an iP4s.
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So would it be better for us to go to an AT&T store or to just call customer service from our phone? I figured that if we went to the store then they could at least see that it's a phone and not a tablet.
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That depends on what kind of data plan you want to be on. Do you want to try to get the $10 unlimited non smartphone plan back (assuming you were on it) or just use the "smartphone data" plan? If you don't mind being on the 2gb smartphone data plan for $25, go to the store and show it to them.
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That's your problem. I bet if you had a legit 4G smartphone plan, you would of never gotten a call from AT&T.
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Please reread the original post.
The issue is not 'you should be on a more expensive unlimited data plan'.
The issue is AT&T Is saying 'your device can't have voice. Just data.'
This is similar to this:
www.groubal.com/att-is-price-gouging-by-disabling-device-features-must-read/
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That depends on what kind of data plan you want to be on. Do you want to try to get the $10 unlimited non smartphone plan back (assuming you were on it) or just use the "smartphone data" plan? If you don't mind being on the 2gb smartphone data plan for $25, go to the store and show it to them.
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In the OP's case, I don't think he has an option.
AT&T's lookup system thinks the IMEI is a tablet that doesn't get phone service.
The only way for him to disprove that is to go into a store and show them the note and point out it's running Gingerbread, and therefore it is a phone not a tablet. Once they do that, they will allow voice again, but he'll have to use a smartphone plan after that.
- Frank
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That depends on what kind of data plan you want to be on. Do you want to try to get the $10 unlimited non smartphone plan back (assuming you were on it) or just use the "smartphone data" plan? If you don't mind being on the 2gb smartphone data plan for $25, go to the store and show it to them.
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Well I'm the the iPhone unlimited data plan and I don't want to lose it.
currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-
Should try prepaid T-Mobile first. Service might suck and then you will be mad. Or it could same or better and wonder why you did t switch as fast as you could.
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currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-
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I live in DC but travel back and forth to my hometown which is (Brooklyn, NY). The service is great within any major city. I've had bad service in West Virginia (which is pretty rural).
I honestly think T-Mobile's customer service is great and if I'm not mistaken they work 24/7.
Right now my girlfriend and I are on the "2 for $100" family plan that you speak of and it would of been 2 for $100 but we both have financed phones (she has the S5 & I have the Note 4) and we both have insurance. Our bill is roughly $180.
Conclusion, its not a bad deal and what I love is no contract and we have JUMP which allows us to switch phones as many times as we want (for a fee of course).
masri1987 said:
currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-
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I was a long time VZW customer for 14 years living in Chicago. I recently moved to Scottsdale in August. The recent Galaxy S4 OTA from VZW rendered my phone useless. Twelve to twenty reboots daily. After 6 replacements Verizon refused to switch out to another model phone. Tech Support had the balls to suggest that I buy a phone on Craigslist even though my current phone was still under factory warranty. I made the switch to T-Mobile in November and couldn't be happier. Faster and better LTE coverage than VZW. Plus unlocked bootloaders and more affordable plans. TMO just announced their Data Stash program effective 1/15/15. Another win win for the Un Carrier...... Go for it my friend
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I was a long time VZW customer for 14 years living in Chicago. I recently moved to Scottsdale in August. The recent Galaxy S4 OTA from VZW rendered my phone useless. Twelve to twenty reboots daily. After 6 replacements Verizon refused to switch out to another model phone. Tech Support had the balls to suggest that I buy a phone on Craigslist even though my current phone was still under factory warranty. I made the switch to T-Mobile in November and couldn't be happier. Faster and better LTE coverage than VZW. Plus unlocked bootloaders and more affordable plans. TMO just announced their Data Stash program effective 1/15/15. Another win win for the Un Carrier...... Go for it my friend
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the answer i was looking for, you've made my decision. Getting two Note 4's ,, was considering Nexus 6 but na, i have the note 4 with vz and i hate it because of the locked bootloader too.
I worked for vz corp in chandler for the last 9.5 years up to November 1st. So Yeah, you're experience sounds about right, and i def don't wanna be treated like a VZ Consumer so I have til the end of the month before i'm converted back to a consumer account with consumer pricing..
Thank you all for your opinions...
I will be going for the 2 for 100$ with the monthly payments and insurance i'm also about 180$
Q: can i pay the phone off sooner if i wish?
masri1987 said:
the answer i was looking for, you've made my decision. Getting two Note 4's ,, was considering Nexus 6 but na, i have the note 4 with vz and i hate it because of the locked bootloader too.
I worked for vz corp in chandler for the last 9.5 years up to November 1st. So Yeah, you're experience sounds about right, and i def don't wanna be treated like a VZ Consumer so I have til the end of the month before i'm converted back to a consumer account with consumer pricing..
Thank you all for your opinions...
I will be going for the 2 for 100$ with the monthly payments and insurance i'm also about 180$
Q: can i pay the phone off sooner if i wish?
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Yep you have the option of paying off your new N4 with no penalties. You will not regret your decision. If you are into rooting and modding your phone Dynamic Kat & Fire Kat are great Roms to check out. Welcome aboard and feel free to PM me if you need more help. Cheers and Happy Holidays!
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Yep you have the option of paying off your new N4 with no penalties. You will not regret your decision. If you are into rooting and modding your phone Dynamic Kat & Fire Kat are great Roms to check out. Welcome aboard and feel free to PM me if you need more help. Cheers and Happy Holidays!
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Sounds good, thank you and happy holidays to all!
These guys all hit it spot on... I might even go as far as to say try the test drive program. Yes yes its an iPhone, butttttt, its a no strings attached way to test coverage for seven days.
Moral of the story:
You want to be sure of your coverage over everything. If coverage is good where you live/commute/reside/work/whatever, then you probably won't have a better experience than with T-Mobile. And the network/coverage/plans/deals just keep getting better and better, with no signs of slowing down.
i'm on t-mobile...
couple of questions, i have wanam ,but i don't see the option to change the mapping of our recents\back button ( want the recents to be menu and long back button to be recents)
oh also, is there a dropbox offer for T-Mo note 4 buyers?
also when wifi calling is enabled, sms fails immediately in hangouts when trying to send (can receive though)
turn off wifi calling and boom it works. any ideas?
narrowed down sms via wifi issue (kernel related)
So does anyone know about dropbox offers? and swapping recents for menu? thanks.
Remap recents button to menu
I use the Xposed Additions module found in Xposed to remap the Recents button.
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I use the Xposed Additions module found in Xposed to remap the Recents button.
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perfect.... thank you..
Dropbox should be offering t-mo note 4 buyers a year promo like before... any ideas?
seems like i get the dropbox offer
everytime i clean flash a new rom
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everytime i clean flash a new rom
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do you use previously created drop box account or new one?
i use a previously created one
except for the 1st time the offer popped up
does wifi calling feature use more battery?
So having a peculiar situation , with text over wifi calling,
I got my phone with NJ7 , didn't know any better and flashed a NK4 rom, and while at work wifi texts weren't going through, so i went home flashed full firmware tested at home wifi seemed to work just fine, came back to work today, while wifi calling is on it doesn't work immediately gives me message failed msg using hangouts, but with wifi calling on work wifi using stock sms app works fine, what could it be??
Why would hangouts work over wifi calling on home network on hangouts but not on work wifi on hangouts?
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So having a peculiar situation , with text over wifi calling,
I got my phone with NJ7 , didn't know any better and flashed a NK4 rom, and while at work wifi texts weren't going through, so i went home flashed full firmware tested at home wifi seemed to work just fine, came back to work today, while wifi calling is on it doesn't work immediately gives me message failed msg using hangouts, but with wifi calling on work wifi using stock sms app works fine, what could it be??
Why would hangouts work over wifi calling on home network on hangouts but not on work wifi on hangouts?
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Post a screen shot of the settings for WiFi calling. What apps are you using besides hangouts and stock?
Any groans or Handcent so forth
BAD ASS NOTE 4
Does the Galaxy Note 5 (specifically Sprint) have talk and surf?
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Does the Galaxy Note 5 (specifically Sprint) have talk and surf?
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Do you mean the capability of talking on the phone and being able to surf the web on the phone's browser or even talk on the phone while you are tethering the phone as a modem for a computer or laptop????
If that's what you mean the answer is a big fat NO... Had a long conversation with Sprint about this today. If there is no third party fix for this. My phone will probably be going back and they will have to eat the restocking fee themselves...
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Do you mean the capability of talking on the phone and being able to surf the web on the phone's browser or even talk on the phone while you are tethering the phone as a modem for a computer or laptop????
If that's what you mean the answer is a big fat NO... Had a long conversation with Sprint about this today. If there is no third party fix for this. My phone will probably be going back and they will have to eat the restocking fee themselves...
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That is ridiculous! I used it a lot (tethering and talking at the same time). I can't believe they stepped back in this! Do you happen to know if this is only with Sprint or it is the same with other carriers?
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That is ridiculous! I used it a lot (tethering and talking at the same time). I can't believe they stepped back in this! Do you happen to know if this is only with Sprint or it is the same with other carriers?
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I believe it's a cdma thing (radio issue)
KeboPR said:
That is ridiculous! I used it a lot (tethering and talking at the same time). I can't believe they stepped back in this! Do you happen to know if this is only with Sprint or it is the same with other carriers?
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Oh i agree. Same with me. Used it everyday. Think the newer notes dont have dual antennas or something like that. Baffling.
This is definitely a Sprint thing although when I had the S3 it had the capability to do both at the same time on Sprint.
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This is definitely a Sprint thing although when I had the S3 it had the capability to do both at the same time on Sprint.
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You are right. The S3 was the last Samsung phone to support talk and surf under 3G service.
It's called: SVDO. I'm not so sure about Sprint but with Verizon, when you have LTE/4G, you can talk and surf.
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I believe it's a cdma thing (radio issue)
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Yakuzahi said:
You are right. The S3 was the last Samsung phone to support talk and surf under 3G service.
It's called: SVDO. I'm not so sure about Sprint but with Verizon, when you have LTE/4G, you can talk and surf.
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I had a Note 3 in sprint which had 2 antennas and it could Data+Voice . Note 5 has only 1 antenna so it can't (atleast in Sprint Version). Also I think Sprint doesn't support VoLTE atm.
yes in another thread I started it has been confirmed that you can talk and surf on the Note 5 through other carriers....Sprint NO though Crazy to think I was talking and surfing on my busted up Note 2 just a few days ago, but can no longer do it on a brand new flagship phone. Just seems super backwards.
sprint will be adding talk and surf in the future. whi knows when.. probably at least a year.
Samsung Note 5 on Verizon no longer supports talk and surf. Very frustrating. I thought I was upgrading from my Galaxy S4, besides the large screen, the Note 5 is a step back. Several other annoyances: you are no longer able to paste a telephone number into the dialer. The work around I found is if you press a number on the keypad first then you can paste the number in...you just have to make sure to erase whatever key you hit on the dialer. And there is no longer an option to quick dial a person more than one number (ie: cell and home). If you look at previous Samsung widgets they give you more than one option, now it is only showing one.
I also noticed not only does this kill talking on the phone and browsing the web but it can effect other things too. Everyday I find more and more limitations to this phone.
-Since I use texting a lot for my business, I started using free messaging app like Kik and others for personal and social texting....That way there are no mix ups between personal and business text... lol no accidental text. So While I am talking on the phone I can not receive any of those messages until after I end the phone call. Since those apps are internet connection based.
So does this mean Email and paypal notifications will do the same? Meaning I cant get an important email or paypal payment notification until I hang up with the client? This would suck big time because I normally keep my clients on the phone to verify their payment has been received....
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You are no longer able to paste a telephone number into the dialer.
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I do it all the time. That too must be a VZW thing.
Been talking and surfing and multitasking all at the same time since 2007. If sprint are that retarded not to overhaul their network, its time to change
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Been talking and surfing and multitasking all at the same time since 2007. If sprint are that retarded not to overhaul their network, its time to change
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Well other people are now reporting that it is not just a Sprint thing so you may want to get some clarity before you switch.... Not even just talking and surfing or tethering and talking, but the fact that I cant get any web based messages, notification,or payment alerts while I am on the phone seems like there is no reason to have an all in one phone. Might as well just have 2 devices...
This is terrible. Who else reported this? I doubt it's a GSM user
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This is terrible. Who else reported this? I doubt it's a GSM user
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Looks like Post #11 in this thread is saying Verizon is no longer doing it. I have also seen others post this as well. I wish there was something that could be done about it. This really hinders my business use, social life, and entertainment vs my Note 2. Just an overall huge step backwards for me in every direction. I am just leery of buying a used Note 2 because I cant find any new old stock of them... Otherwise this thing would be back at Sprint ASAP.
All GSM note 5 are identical. There is no reason i could download, talk, hotspot and browse all at the same time using either LTE or a combination of LTE and wifi and other GSM note 5 can't. Isn't verizon also CDMA though? We don't have anymore CDMA carriers in Canada but I remember verizon being now or at some point CDMA
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On my verizon note 5, I have to activate "advanced calling" in the settings. Only drawback is it sucks more battery juice on standby First time I activated it I had to reboot phone. I read the reason they had to change it is because 2 separate radios were used previously for voice and data. Now its a single radio.
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On my verizon note 5, I have to activate "advanced calling" in the settings. Only drawback is it sucks more battery juice on standby First time I activated it I had to reboot phone. I read the reason they had to change it is because 2 separate radios were used previously for voice and data. Now its a single radio.
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Wow .. So it is possible with only one radio? I was under the impression that tome couriers opted for dual radios allowing talk and surf and Sprint did not. This is somewhat hopeful maybe there can be an app or hack to get or activate the "advanced calling" setting for Sprint. Would love to hear or see more info on this.... There is so much conflicting info on this.