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Congrats to CM

Cyanogen goes from from Android mod to legit startup with $7M from Benchmark
http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/18/c...-mod-to-legit-startup-with-7m-from-benchmark/
Hopefully we see good things in the foreseeable future, gotta love what CM has done for all of us :thumbup:
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This guy is a legend.

Good luck to Steve... I would be willing to at least try out a Cyanogen OS phone.
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Even though I do not use CM.
I wish them the BEST!!!
I hope they become 2nd. Not 3rd
Because....
"Apples are meant for eating...period."
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Cyanogenmod was the first rom i ever flashed. Seeing it grow up kinda brings a tear to my eye :crying: . Best of luck Steve im sure it will be popular!

Does anyone else realize how nuts this is? I mean, from a back door, unlicensed, hackers, weekend project to a full fledged entity that directly competes against big name software. All for free. This is amazing and can only get better congrats to them and the whole android hacker community!
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Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?

Here is the full blog by the guy himself.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/a_new_chapter
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sauprankul said:
Did anybody actually read the article?
Am I the only one confused about the CM installer off Google Play? Wut
Can anybody explain how non rooted users can switch to CM via an app from the Play Store?
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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.

I thought this was funny
https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/Y1NNyPMMVfN

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I'm pretty sure the CM installer will require root, I mean there are plenty of apps that requires root on the PlayStore.
I'm curious of how they will eventually monetize this. $7mil is no small investment, the invester will expect a return? I'm pretty sure if cm came shipped with a phone it might be without root. If you followed Steve K on plus he posted a question about the reasons why users want root and he said it was possible to achieve most of it without root with coding and thus will provide a more secure environment.
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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.

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If it does require root, what exactly is the point? I'm sure most people who go through the trouble of rooting their devices have at least heard of CM, if not used it. This really won't "expand the user base" or whatever unless it can painlessly root your phone from stock. Which I'm pretty sure it can't do. Plus, He also writes about how the rooting process is "gruesome" and he thinks it is unnecessary. Maybe he has/will figure out a way to get CM on our phones without root? He said next few weeks, so... let's see.
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I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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im0rtalz said:
I meant that their goal would be to have a partnership with oems and have devices that comes with cm pre-installed so there would be no need for root it might just update thru the stock recovery just the same as a regular ota would be. Well everything is just speculation but from the looks of focal then voice+ there is going to be so many good things to come. A revamp theme engine that rivals miui maybe.
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If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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Although I don't typically use it as a stand-alone ROM, most of the ROMs I build and like best are based in CM. They have a great team and embody everything about open-source that users, devs and aspiring devs want to emulate. I think it's high time they receive the recognition they deserve and a top spot in the Android and mobile OS forum. Best of luck, guys!

Started from the bottom now he here! Congrats to Steve and the whole CM team. Reminiscing about the CM6 days to where CM is now always brings a tear to my eyes. Lol.
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sauprankul said:
If I were a multi billion dollar company, I wouldn't exactly want to outsource my OS development to a small hacking startup.
It would be cool, but I think it's not possible right now, at least, not with mainstream OEMs.
Oppo? Probably. Samsung HTC Sony etc? Prolly not.
And he specifically mentioned the installer right after the "rooting is gruesome" thing. I think that's a good clue.
EDIT: Maybe something like a "CM edition" will work, just like GPe?
Also, did anyone notice the iPhones in
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I noticed all the iDevices and was very intrigued by it. CM on iOS devices? That's something I can get excited about.
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"The firm's first announced step is to improve the process of installing the software on owner's devices, which Kondik described as "hideous". A new installer app is planned to be released "in the coming weeks" on Google Play. The installer app will not require rooting the device, instead installing by simply clicking a button."
http://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/CyanogenMod:_Open-source_smartphone_OS_goes_commercial?dpl_id=785316
If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?

my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base

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my main question when i install CM in the future will it be a close to stock android experience that we all know and love or are they looking to do something like amazon(just not terrible) and use android as a base
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dude. C'mon.
Really?
C'mon.
The whole point of CM is to get closer to the stock experience. It's just that now, overlays like TW and Sense don't suck. CM is upping their ante to compete with these guys (Hence the project name Nemesis). They are introducing features like CM accounts and focal, which don't detract from the experience.
It would be suicide for CM to completely run away with Android like that.

sauprankul said:
If that's true, the CM will be an instant hit.
I wonder if this will void warranty since you basically just installed an app. Also, I know I'll be laughed at, but will not having root fix the frequency lock issue?
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Looks like the installer will only work on unlocked *bootloader unlocked* and developer editions, they are hoping more manufacturers will eventually offer offical unlock, similar to HTC dev unlock I am thinking. So it isn't going to magically install CM on any device.
CyanogenMod will have its own installer app “in the coming weeks” which will be available in the Play Store. Initially the app will not install CyanogenMod on devices for which unofficial exploits were used to unlock their bootloaders. Steve Kondik (cyanogen himself if you didn’t already know) had this to say about the installer app:
The first release of the installer won’t support devices that require exploits. The long-term goal is to open up OEMs to the possibility of supporting us officially- there’s zero technical reason for these measures and the best way to fix it is to not buy these devices and speak your mind.
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It’s more important to me to work with OEMs on changing policy than developing exploits, though. And we’ll do that by creating great stuff that people want to use.
The app should work seamlessly on your Nexus device, your Developer Edition device or your device for which an official bootloader unlock is available.
Also some interesting read on focal https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs

Do you think an international Version with COS (CM) is coming?

The question already says everything.
I love the specs of the phone, finally a flagship which has all I personally need.
When it gets the amount of Custom Roms of the Z1 i really want to buy the Z2.
Furthermore 6 GB Ram sounds really tasty.

I'd like to think so. See no reason why not.
I was literally on the cusp of buying the Xiaomi Mi5, but this appears far superior, except perhaps the lack of NFC.
ZUK Z1 wasn't very popular, but it kind of missed the boat. Seems ZUK have dropped this phone right at the correct time. Xiaomi isn't making it easy to get the Mi5 and the OP3 hasn't dropped yet.
Be nice if CyanogenOS 13 was on it.....

Well instead i think not...in the last days if you follow the official european distributor facebook's page they told a lot of bad things about Cyanogen, the last one is this:
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And some days ago:
https://www.facebook.com/zukofficial/posts/1562718527358847?comment_id=1562752227355477&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D
Then i think that is really hard...however i don't think that they will stop international avalaibility but probably they will translate the ZUI..or maybe they have a sort of Android version for global market (like One Plus with Oxygen OS), let's wait and see!

don't know if I could go back to a phone without wireless charging but otherwise it sounds great

SedyBenoitPeace said:
Well instead i think not...in the last days if you follow the official european distributor facebook's page they told a lot of bad things about Cyanogen, the last one is this:
And some days ago:
https://www.facebook.com/zukofficial/posts/1562718527358847?comment_id=1562752227355477&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D
Then i think that is really hard...however i don't think that they will stop international avalaibility but probably they will translate the ZUI..or maybe they have a sort of Android version for global market (like One Plus with Oxygen OS), let's wait and see!
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Okay looking at their Facebook page seems unlikely they wanna use CM again... so hopefully its unlocked so there will be good development for this phone to change ZUI.
There is intl version of lenovo rom though.

Anybody knows, is english language include in it and can i use it in Europe?

So i hope that CM is coming in the unlocked version.

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Anybody knows, is english language include in it and can i use it in Europe?
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We know nothing right now. But im sure in some days/weeks we will get the infos. I really really hope that the Bootloader is unlocked for CM (not ****ty COS).

Tiz92 said:
So i hope that CM is coming in the unlocked version.
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I hope as well. COS would be even better IMHO.
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For me a translated ZUI or another Chinese rom is a NOGO.
The rest of the phone (but the battery) looks very good....
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Given the fact that you already have Z1, why do you say that Cm implementation would be better and ZUI is a no go?

oile said:
Given the fact that you already have Z1, why do you say that Cm implementation would be better and ZUI is a no go?
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Because we like stock Android without laggy skins.

Tiz92 said:
Because we like stock Android without laggy skins.
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100 people, 100 opinions...

denkem said:
100 people, 100 opinions...
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Of course. You are right. But with an unlocked bootloader and open sources we can get our beloved CM and Toms and the people who wants to stay on the Zuks UI can do it.

Tiz92 said:
Of course. You are right. But with an unlocked bootloader and open sources we can get our beloved CM and Toms and the people who wants to stay on the Zuks UI can do it.
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Agree of course. I didn't want to sound offensive But tbh, I only have had zuk z1 in my hands for maybe 5 days. And CM was as buggy as ZUI. So I'll wait for xda users "reviews" rather than some *izmo**** websites review. And then I will decide. On paper it looks good so far

Tiz92 said:
Of course. You are right. But with an unlocked bootloader and open sources we can get our beloved CM and Toms and the people who wants to stay on the Zuks UI can do it.
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What is Toms ?

based on what i read in a couple of sites - it says there is no international ver of the device.
hope it will be proved to be wrong.

Looks like no international version. China only.

It won't come with cm, although I think it would be an open source software and would be a peace of cake making Nexus ROM based .. So I don't mind.

Engadget updated their article to say a Lenovo rep confirmed China availability only: http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/21/zuk-z2-pro-lenovo/
Maybe it will still come with an unlocked bootloader though, however resellers prices will likely prove to be less attractive...

oile said:
Given the fact that you already have Z1, why do you say that Cm implementation would be better and ZUI is a no go?
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Ciao @oile,
it's a very personal opinion. I dislike actually every ROM that is not AOSP based. Material design is brilliant and implemented in all major apps. Switching from a material design app (e.g. Gmail) to a very chinese stile (e.g. ZUI) is very inconsistent.
I'm not a Cyanogen fanboy (I'd be happy with something similar to what OnePlus did with Oxygen OS) but the stability, performance and features of COS 12.1 on the Z1, are almost perfect for my usage pattern.
Long story short: it's a very personal preference of Android as it was designed by Google with some nice additional features.
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Because we like stock Android without laggy skins.
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Very true........
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Tiz92 said:
Of course. You are right. But with an unlocked bootloader and open sources we can get our beloved CM and Toms and the people who wants to stay on the Zuks UI can do it.
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Ciao @branzoll,
unfortunately in my long experience of flashing CM and ASOP roms I never found am implementation that was perfect (lower than stock camera quality, bad radio drivers (GPS), lower than stock battery life). The two best CM/COS implementation I tryied were on ZUK Z1 and OPO!!
I hope I'll be wrong but I struggle to think of full sources sharing. No OEM want/can have a full release (see Sony and their willingness to share stopped by the legal issue with Quallcom).
I lost the hope of a perfect custom AOSP rom that is not a official commercial one (COS/Oxygen/some Mediatek ROMs).

Oneplus 3/3T to receive Android P

https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/android-p-is-coming-to-the-oneplus-3-and-3t.879545/
Its official. Android P is coming to Oneplus 3/3T

My god !

Please keep all news/discussion related to OxygenOS 6.0 in this thread only. Any new thread opened regarding ETA/etc will be closed.

Well congo to all Oneplus 3 and 3T users...U all will get Android P update ...Oneplus is saying that They will skip the android 8.1.0 .But will try to Enhance the user Experience.

Awesome news, but I'll keep my doubts unless they actually push it in the betas.
I had been waiting for 8.1 from ages now, and there's no timeline for P, maybe it'll lauch by the end of the year, maybe the end of next year?
The Android P update will be available on the OnePlus 6, OnePlus 5/T and OnePlus 3/3T, in this order.
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Well i am sure they are more serious about their promises and update schedule now but it still didn't make sense that they had all the time to optimize and release 8.1 for OP5/5T but when it came to OP3/3T they want to utilize resources on P instead. Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.

abhibnl said:
Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Pardon me i just wonder, are you aware that you are in this place?
There are plently of it..
And if you are the person who looking for stock, is it strange that you are lurking in here?
Pardon me agan, my mind just blown reading your post...

abhibnl said:
Well i am sure they are more serious about their promises and update schedule now but it still didn't make sense that they had all the time to optimize and release 8.1 for OP5/5T but when it came to OP3/3T they want to utilize resources on P instead. Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Well, i prefer getting 9 and not 8.1 over getting 8.1 and not 9.

150208 said:
Pardon me i just wonder, are you aware that you are in this place?
There are plently of it..
And if you are the person who looking for stock, is it strange that you are lurking in here?
Pardon me agan, my mind just blown reading your post...
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Some of us like the stability and some other factors in OOS and won't switch to custom OS (no matter how much they claim to be bug-free or stable experience but there is always something broken), unless OOS is declared EOL by OnePlus.
I am mostly lurking here for custom kernels as the custom kernels offered here are much more battery friendly and smoother compared to stock one WITHOUT breaking any functionality.
That's the kind of place XDA is, no matter how small custom Android mod/solution you are looking for your device, you will always find something relevant to your taste and usability.
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Well, i prefer getting 9 and not 8.1 over getting 8.1 and not 9.
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Same here! It's exciting but i am just concerned about the wait and possible timeline before that happens. P isn't even released yet, and once it's released the OP3/3T is the last device to receive it from OnePlus. So i am assuming we might not see a P update for 5-6 months. So, i was wondering if they could have worked on 8.1 for 3/3T when they were working with the code for 5/5T.
But at least now we all know we will eventually receive P and we are not abandoned. Kudos to OnePlus to support OP3 with 3 major Android version updated 6>7>8>9.

this is how all manufacturers must support the development of phones

Hope they'll include Treble support as well

All credit to One Plus if they deliver.
A friend of mine bought a Samsung S7 Edge at the same time I bought my OP3. He was smiling initially due to the better screen and camera etc. As time has past, he's only just got Oreo and is suffering from slowing down and awful battery life. My OP3 feels as fast as on day 1 and has only slight battery degradation.
With every day, my smile gets wider. :victory:

This is exactly what I want from a phone when I buy one, long term OS support. Well done Oneplus, my next phone will be also Oneplus.

This is exactly why I made the OP6 purchase. OnePlus has been very good to it's fan base. I know they fell short on a few promises prior to the OP3 however they are most certainly making up for it. I purchased my OP6 in good faith because my OP3 had ***55 UPDATES*** (including betas) and now Android P is coming. I know my 4 year old isn't going to care about the update and isn't going to like daddy taking her phone, wiping it and playing on it for a few days.... But I seriously cannot wait for the OP6 to get Android P and I'm going to be just as excited when it drops for the OP3.
I'm not bragging that I have a OP6, I just want to share my excitement with everyone about Android P on the OP3. I know not everyone has the luxury of buying a new device and I'm happy for everyone who gets to share the Android P experience. I have had a ton of different devices in the past, most with little to no updates including Samsung (no crapple). Hopefully OnePlus will force other manufacturers to follow suit so even those who aren't fans of OnePlus devices can get a better update experience.

Petition: Give Android 11 for Note9!

Samsung said that all flagships after and including the S10 will get 3 years of Android OS updates. It's a bit unfair for us Note9 and S9 users so I created a petition to Samsung asking them to reconsider adding the S9, S9+ and Note9 to the 3 year major updates support program as well. Here's the link: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-give-android-11-oneui-3-0-to-galaxy-note9-s9-phones
The more people that sign it the better chance we have of Samsung acknowledging it!

koragg97 said:
Samsung said that all flagships after and including the S10 will get 3 years of Android OS updates. It's a bit unfair for us Note9 and S9 users so I created a petition to Samsung asking them to reconsider adding the S9, S9+ and Note9 to the 3 year major updates support program as well. Here's the link: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-give-android-11-oneui-3-0-to-galaxy-note9-s9-phones
The more people that sign it the better chance we have of Samsung acknowledging it!
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The petition won't do anything. I truly hate being that person but there's no way in this world or the next that a petition on xda will make Samsung ad an older device to their new statement. It's not smart for their business, gives them no real benefits or anything. You gotta realize they aren't thinking of the handful of us who still hold onto the 9 series of phones whether it be S or Note... Their business is to sell new electronics not to keep old ones on life support that they keep recharging every so often.

KingVekxin said:
The petition won't do anything. I truly hate being that person but there's no way in this world or the next that a petition on xda will make Samsung ad an older device to their new statement. It's not smart for their business, gives them no real benefits or anything. You gotta realize they aren't thinking of the handful of us who still hold onto the 9 series of phones whether it be S or Note... Their business is to sell new electronics not to keep old ones on life support that they keep recharging every so often.
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Don't worry, I know we 99.9% won't get it. Just decided to explore how this works and made it as another xda user requested it. I'm ok with 2.5 as I just want wireless DeX - other stuff is a bonus that's in 2.5.

Please stop. Please.

I feel like a petition might work for an iPhone, because, well, you either have an iPhone or a thousand variants of an Android phone. Having one of two out of those thousand variants doesn't amass to a whole lot of people, certainly not enough for Samsung to actually do something about it. Good luck, though. I did sign it. But again, it's more than likely a lost cause. The three year deal didn't start until AFTER the Note9.

Feels like we need to have this same conversation once every smartphone generation. Recap:
Breathing life into old electronics is not good business. Samsung is a business, they're in it for the money. Introducing new features for old phones will not sell new hardware; if anything, it will cause Samsung to sell less new hardware. Less sales means less revenue. That's why it's bad for business.
Developing software for additional platforms consumes more resources; resources which could be used for advancing development of newer hardware, and better software for said newer hardware. Again, why waste resources into something that will cause you to sell fewer next-gen phones?
Let me reiterate. Samsung is a business. They will not make poor business decisions to benefit users who hang on to old hardware instead of buying new hardware. End of story.

@oddbehreif As I said before I don't have much hope but seeing how the S10s got 3 years support and the Note10 Lite is THE SAME PHONE as the Note9 and will get Android 11 I decided to make this. I'll be perfectly happy with OneUI 2.5 as I'll get wireless DeX then but it's fun to see how change.org works and to spam the link on every Samsung or smartphone tech video and watch the numbers rise.

It will not working.

one UI 2.5 will be updated! Android 11 is not possible!

pichai said:
one UI 2.5 will be updated! Android 11 is not possible!
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Android 11 is not possible!

manne48 said:
Android 11 is not possible!
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Android 11 may be unlikely to be provided to Note 9 by Samsung, I am not sure your statement that it's not possible (technically ?) is correct.
I may have misunderstood the context of your post.
My understanding is Samsung have indicated it will be providing Android 11 to all Note 10 / S10 and later, I believe one of these included phones has essentially the same hardware so obviously possible.
Finally I believe Note 9 is project Treble compatible / compliant so this would indicate it's technically possible and not as difficult as pre -Treble phones to be provided future Android updates

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Finally I believe Note 9 is project Treble compatible / compliant so this would indicate it's technically possible and not as difficult as pre -Treble phones to be provided future Android updates
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This is why they should give it to us as well.

paul_59 said:
Android 11 may be unlikely to be provided to Note 9 by Samsung, I am not sure your statement that it's not possible (technically ?) is correct.
I wish that our N9 became the Android11 version;imagine,with a new battery and an aktual system we can use this rely good,amazing phone for more then 2-3 years.I`m using this phone now for 1.5 years;at first with Android 8 than 9 and now 10.It should be possible to get 11!!
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Dude, we already have Treble support on this. When the new GSI drops, just install that.
I've seen many of these petitions and none worked.

We will just hope that some dev will port the SM-N770F update to the SM-N960F/G96xF family
Android 11 update now rolling out to Galaxy Note 10 Lite
The One UI 3.0 update based on Android 11 is now rolling out to select Galaxy Note 10 Lite units. ...
www.sammobile.com

I dont wanna spark any hope in sight, but, either this is typical Samsung negligence from their side, or they mistakenly took this upon.
They have an app called GPU Watch, which is pretty much a FPS Real Time counter for people who game.
If you head in their app's website, there's a table showing support for the app's version and SDK. Weirdly, Note9/S9 are on the Android R list as well.
Here's a screenshot:
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Question Xperia 10 IV, Trust on First Use

Howdy, everyone. I picked up an Xperia 10 IV (model No. XQCC-72) and I’m having trouble with the WiFi.
My work uses WPA2 enterprise encryption, but doesn’t issue any kind of certificate.
Here’s my understanding of the situation:
As-of later builds of Android 11, Google disabled the ability to select “Do no validate” when connecting to these networks.
However, they implemented a replacement system called Trust on First Use (ToFU) that shipped with Android 13.
Well, my Xperia is on latest build of Android 13 that’s available; but ToFU isn’t an option. I can select to use system certificates, or to install a certificate of my choice, and that’s if.
ToFU works perfectly fine on an old Pixel 4a that’s running Android 13; so it’s definitely not a problem with the WiFi. Seems to be entirely limited to the Xperia
Does anyone have any suggestions? Or even confirmation if this is a bug limited to my device; rather than a conscious choice made by Sony to disable ToFU? The company phones where I work are iPhones, so there’s no chance of them updating the WiFi to work with Android’s more stringent security requirements anytime soon.

MEGAS XLR said:
Howdy, everyone. I picked up an Xperia 10 IV (model No. XQCC-72) and I’m having trouble with the WiFi.
My work uses WPA2 enterprise encryption, but doesn’t issue any kind of certificate.
Here’s my understanding of the situation:
As-of later builds of Android 11, Google disabled the ability to select “Do no validate” when connecting to these networks.
However, they implemented a replacement system called Trust on First Use (ToFU) that shipped with Android 13.
Well, my Xperia is on latest build of Android 13 that’s available; but ToFU isn’t an option. I can select to use system certificates, or to install a certificate of my choice, and that’s if.
ToFU works perfectly fine on an old Pixel 4a that’s running Android 13; so it’s definitely not a problem with the WiFi. Seems to be entirely limited to the Xperia
Does anyone have any suggestions? Or even confirmation if this is a bug limited to my device; rather than a conscious choice made by Sony to disable ToFU? The company phones where I work are iPhones, so there’s no chance of them updating the WiFi to work with Android’s more stringent security requirements anytime soon.
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Hello, i also have this problem
have you found a solution?
only solution i seemed to have found was using a custom rom

DrDrag0n said:
Hello, i also have this problem
have you found a solution?
only solution i seemed to have found was using a custom rom
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Nothing yet. I just installed a recently released update, and still no TOFU. I tweeted to the official Xperia twitter about implementing the feature, since there isn’t any kind of feedback hub.
I hope they activate it at some point. I’d like to get an Xperia 1 V as my next main phone, but not being able to connect to my workplace WiFi is a dealbreaker.

MEGAS XLR said:
Nothing yet. I just installed a recently released update, and still no TOFU. I tweeted to the official Xperia twitter about implementing the feature, since there isn’t any kind of feedback hub.
I hope they activate it at some point. I’d like to get an Xperia 1 V as my next main phone, but not being able to connect to my workplace WiFi is a dealbreaker.
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I have the 1 iii, it is an amazing phone. The 1 V will no doubt be incredible.
i have found using custom roms did make TOFU appear but Sony really should support this stock. Especially since android 13 should have it enabled by default

DrDrag0n said:
I have the 1 iii, it is an amazing phone. The 1 V will no doubt be incredible.
i have found using custom roms did make TOFU appear but Sony really should support this stock. Especially since android 13 should have it enabled by default
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I would use a custom ROM if I could, but as of yet there’s nothing for the 10 IV that I could find. And I’m not savvy enough to make my own.
Sony is one of the few, possibly only companies that make a phone with flagship specs, that also supports expandable storage and still has a headphone jack. But they just had to cripple it by leaving out a feature that’s baked into Android by default.
I don’t know if they left it out for some reason on purpose, or if it accidentally got disabled during development and nobody’s brought it to their attention yet.
I may never know.

MEGAS XLR said:
I would use a custom ROM if I could, but as of yet there’s nothing for the 10 IV that I could find. And I’m not savvy enough to make my own.
Sony is one of the few, possibly only companies that make a phone with flagship specs, that also supports expandable storage and still has a headphone jack. But they just had to cripple it by leaving out a feature that’s baked into Android by default.
I don’t know if they left it out for some reason on purpose, or if it accidentally got disabled during development and nobody’s brought it to their attention yet.
I may never know.
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Im going to tweet them as well and hope someone sees it. It should be enabled by default so there is potential that for security reasons in A11 and A12 they hard coded TOFU being disabled and forgot to add it back in

MEGAS XLR said:
I would use a custom ROM if I could, but as of yet there’s nothing for the 10 IV that I could find. And I’m not savvy enough to make my own.
Sony is one of the few, possibly only companies that make a phone with flagship specs, that also supports expandable storage and still has a headphone jack. But they just had to cripple it by leaving out a feature that’s baked into Android by default.
I don’t know if they left it out for some reason on purpose, or if it accidentally got disabled during development and nobody’s brought it to their attention yet.
I may never know.
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Have you tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-pdx225-13-lineage-20-for-sony-xperia-10iv.4562485/?
If you are not sure if your model is supported just ask in that forum also same in regards for TOFU.

sieghartRM said:
Have you tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unofficial-pdx225-13-lineage-20-for-sony-xperia-10iv.4562485/?
If you are not sure if your model is supported just ask in that forum also same in regards for TOFU.
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I can’t believe I missed the thread for that Lineage OS port. I sure feel like a dope.
I’ll give it a shot when I have some time to mess around, but that’ll probably fix it. I’m running Lineage OS on an old Pixel 3a, and TOFU works perfectly. So this is promising

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This is the reply from Sony. Some corporate copy-and-paste nonsense that isn’t even related to what I asked.

I looked through the unofficial LineageOS thread, and there seems to be some audio and camera bugs. Plus the ROM is distributed in a .bin format; which Windows really doesn’t want to work with and I don’t feel like digging out an old PC with Linux on it at the moment.
I think I actually did see that unofficial build of LineageOS before; but didn’t want to deal with the hassle that comes with an unofficial build for a fairly niche device.
I might just keep my eye on it for now but leave my Xperia as stock. Who knows, maybe we’ll get TOFU in a year when Sony puts out an update to Android 14.
It’s not a huge deal for me; I picked this thing up cheap on a whim. Both to gauge modern Sony phones (I haven’t used an Xperia since I got the very first model in the lineup, the Xperia X1, back in 2008) to see if I’d want to use one full time, and to eventually put Sailfish OS on it if Jolla decides to support it. My primary iPhone connects to improperly secured WPA2 networks, so it’s not the end of the world for me.
I do hope Sony eventually gets it together and fixes this problem. My iPhone is starting to show its age and I really like the design and feature set of the Xperia 1 series; but I can’t reasonably spend that kind of money on a phone that won’t even connect to the WiFi at work.