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How is the state of the OnePlus 3T right now?

Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you

perezdi said:
Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you
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The Nexus 5 is already discontinued when it comes to official software updates. It will only get security patches and even that won't be for long. (In fact it's latest factory image is from December 2016 so it might've fully stopped already.)
As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.

I recently (last week) replaced my 2 year old Nexus 6 with a OnePlus 3T and had the same concerns as you. Would I enjoy another OEM's version of Android? I was even running a really bare bones Vanilla AOSP ROM by the end and loved it.
I don't regret changing at all thus far.
I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).

-Ric- said:
As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.
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Ah, that's so good to hear! This is exactly what I was expecting. Yeah, Nexus 5 had an extremely good run and until the beginning of this year I felt it was still so good as far apps go, but anything web related started being more and more painful. It is still a pretty good phone and I'll keep around for Android dev related things.
Now I'm pumped for the 13th.
Thanks

Didgeridoohan said:
I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).
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So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?

perezdi said:
The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is
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OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
perezdi said:
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems
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This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.

perezdi said:
So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?
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I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.

redpoint73 said:
OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.
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I see. I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible. The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.

Didgeridoohan said:
I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.
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I see. You were just tuning it to your taste and knowledge. Okee dokee. Thanks!

perezdi said:
I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible.
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Google Now is a launcher (AKA home app). It's not pre-installed, but you can easily install it from the Play Store.
I don't think you can disable or uninstall the OnePlus launcher on a stock OP3T ("disable" is grayed out), but you certainly can with root (may want to freeze it before uninstalling, and make sure it doesn't break anything else). But I also doubt it would make any significant difference, compared to simply installing Google Now launcher, and making it the default home app.
perezdi said:
The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.
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Haven't used it much, it does the basic functions (move/copy files, looks like it can open archives like ZIP) but doesn't look like anything special. If you use one that has more features (particularly root browsing) you'll probably prefer what you already use.

New (soon) owner of Mi Mix

Coming from mi 5s plus, I was looking for more screen space, so the mi mix 2 or 2s was a no go for me better the 6.4 of the mi mix 1.
Very excited, will read through the forum.
Anyone willing to sintetize what shall I do first, (other Rom, Google camera, magisk, etc...?)
In the past I always rooted phones, but I kind of prefer not to, unless there is a huge advantage in doing it (my last mi 5s plus I never rooted nor unlocked, and I was perfectly fine)

claudioita said:
Coming from mi 5s plus, I was looking for more screen space, so the mi mix 2 or 2s was a no go for me better the 6.4 of the mi mix 1.
Very excited, will read through the forum.
Anyone willing to sintetize what shall I do first, (other Rom, Google camera, magisk, etc...?)
In the past I always rooted phones, but I kind of prefer not to, unless there is a huge advantage in doing it (my last mi 5s plus I never rooted nor unlocked, and I was perfectly fine)
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If you can live with miui, stay where you are if you don't want to unlock bootloader.

james1089 said:
If you can live with miui, stay where you are if you don't want to unlock bootloader.
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I want but only for a good reason. Playing with different rom is not a good reason for me, if they do not bring any substantial improvements

claudioita said:
I want but only for a good reason. Playing with different rom is not a good reason for me, if they do not bring any substantial improvements
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I'll stick with my original answer

I ran MIUI quite happily on my MIX for several months, then finally got fed up with the constant updates to the bloatware that's preinstalled and can't be disabled. If you are intent on sticking with MIUI at least try a custom launcher (e.g. Action launcher) and definitely update the stock camera app.

mmidders said:
I ran MIUI quite happily on my MIX for several months, then finally got fed up with the constant updates to the bloatware that's preinstalled and can't be disabled. If you are intent on sticking with MIUI at least try a custom launcher (e.g. Action launcher) and definitely update the stock camera app.
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Oh yes I do have Nova Launcher.
Which camera app you recommend?

Ideally you want the google hdr+ camera; there's a port of it in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/miui-9-stable-magisk-xposed-t3705951 but I don't know if that's the one for you. Ask google!
Also I would recommend buying a clear gel case for your MIX; the case that comes with it is perfectly fine, but it hides the beauty within, and I think my clear case was all of about £1.40 from amazon.

What kind of software updates/support can we expect from Xiaomi?

Just got the Mi 8 after 7 years on iPhone.
At first, I felt like MIUI 9's UI was quite dated. Now, MIUI 10 is rocking Material Design that fits better with the rest of Android. Yay!
Having said that, I'm not yet sure what kind of software updates/maintenance to expect from both Google and Xiaomi...
So far, I notice that there are some inconsistencies and annoying bugs due to the MIUI layer. Lack of "Ok Google", One-handed mode tends to stop working, Text to speech is missing, the text editing is sometimes MIUI sometimes Android, etc etc etc... While there are nice things about MIUI as well for sure.
Ok...
Overall, I want to prepare myself for the kind of attention I'll pay to maintain this phone in the next year or two.
Thinking if I should install custom ROMs and how often I should spend the time to customize & fix little things.
Based on your experience with Xiaomi and Android in general, how much will the manufacturer take care of things for me so "it just works"?

Normally I would recommend you to buy a pixel phone, it's the best Android you can have if you use to have iPhone.
Prepare yourself to wait for updates and new features from Android.
The problem with others companies it's that next year you'll have mi9 and they will get there attention, so the updates Will be first to the new versions.
On Google pixel and iPhone that doesn't happen.
To my that's the problem with Xiaomi, Samsung, etc etc

anthroplus said:
Just got the Mi 8 after 7 years on iPhone.
At first, I felt like MIUI 9's UI was quite dated. Now, MIUI 10 is rocking Material Design that fits better with the rest of Android. Yay!
Having said that, I'm not yet sure what kind of software updates/maintenance to expect from both Google and Xiaomi...
So far, I notice that there are some inconsistencies and annoying bugs due to the MIUI layer. Lack of "Ok Google", One-handed mode tends to stop working, Text to speech is missing, the text editing is sometimes MIUI sometimes Android, etc etc etc... While there are nice things about MIUI as well for sure.
Ok...
Overall, I want to prepare myself for the kind of attention I'll pay to maintain this phone in the next year or two.
Thinking if I should install custom ROMs and how often I should spend the time to customize & fix little things.
Based on your experience with Xiaomi and Android in general, how much will the manufacturer take care of things for me so "it just works"?
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You probably will get now the next 4 years updates from MIUI, so it's no problem. In the worst case just flash a custom rom if necessary

anthroplus said:
So far, I notice that there are some inconsistencies and annoying bugs due to the MIUI layer. Lack of "Ok Google", One-handed mode tends to stop working, Text to speech is missing, the text editing is sometimes MIUI sometimes Android, etc etc etc... While there are nice things about MIUI as well for sure.
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Ok Google is broken on many many many devices, even Samsung ones. Voice match is grayed out and you can't voice retrain it.

NightScap3 said:
You probably will get now the next 4 years updates from MIUI, so it's no problem. In the worst case just flash a custom rom if necessary
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Cool stuff.
So far, I'm getting the impression that Xiaomi is particularly good at software upgrades.
In general, I want updated software regardless of the new stuff coming from Google or Xiaomi.

ArmedandDangerous said:
Ok Google is broken on many many many devices, even Samsung ones. Voice match is grayed out and you can't voice retrain it.
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I see... Seems like I'll have to live with these things related to Android in general.
I'm learning to enjoy using parts that work while training myself to ignore buggy stuff... As if they were never an option.
By focusing on features that work (no more and no less), it's far easier to enjoy this device.
But of course. Easier said than done. There's always temptation to feel FOMO for knowing that these basic things are supposed to actually work.

anthroplus said:
Just got the Mi 8 after 7 years on iPhone.
At first, I felt like MIUI 9's UI was quite dated. Now, MIUI 10 is rocking Material Design that fits better with the rest of Android. Yay!
Having said that, I'm not yet sure what kind of software updates/maintenance to expect from both Google and Xiaomi...
So far, I notice that there are some inconsistencies and annoying bugs due to the MIUI layer. Lack of "Ok Google", One-handed mode tends to stop working, Text to speech is missing, the text editing is sometimes MIUI sometimes Android, etc etc etc... While there are nice things about MIUI as well for sure.
Ok...
Overall, I want to prepare myself for the kind of attention I'll pay to maintain this phone in the next year or two.
Thinking if I should install custom ROMs and how often I should spend the time to customize & fix little things.
Based on your experience with Xiaomi and Android in general, how much will the manufacturer take care of things for me so "it just works"?
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Welcome to the world of Xiaomi. Dated MIUI 9? HOW DARE YOU We have a wonderful theme store with tons of themes, something that cannot be said for other manufacturers that have added theme stores or theme apps (cough cough Asus). I'll give you a detailed summary of how things work.
UPDATES, MIUI, ANDROID:
A LARGE majority of Xiaomi smartphone users buy it for the chap price and expect it to work like every other Android smartphone; Android updates bring you features. That is totally fine, but many seem upset when their phone is still rocking an ancient version of Android as compared to other phones (both other brands and Xiaomi phones as well). For MIUI, this is not the case, and again, people still haven't realized this sadly. Xiaomi pushes features and improvements through MIUI versions, so for the most part, Android versions are irrelevant to us. Obviously some features from the Android version are important such as the upcoming support for notches and multiple cameras, but for the MIUI ecosystem, everything you need to for your experience comes in the form of MIUI updates. Focus on MIUI version updates first, unless there is something very important in an upcoming Android version.
FEATURES, IMPROVEMENTS, BUGS and YOU:
Your opinions DO matter, many of the features present on MIUI came from the voiced opinions of users like you and I. Second space, dual apps, themes, etc. Many of the are thanks to what we have made of it. This is the same for bugs. There is a feedback app within the phone which is in the Tools folder of most if not all official MIUI versions. Do provide screenshots and suggestions, they are listening, and I myself have seen bugs I have mentioned be fixed in later versions. Could have been me, could have been millions of people who noticed it as well. I think MIUI 7 was the most successful MIUI version out there in terms of overall stability, but I could be wrong
DEVICE QUALITY:
Obviously cheaper devices will demonstrate that they are cheap at some point. Most Xiaomi phones are solid companions, but the lower priced devices tend to suck at times. I owned the Redmi Note 2, and boy the battery life was dreadfull. Some other mid range devices of theirs have physical issues. I owned a Mi Max, it began to slightly bend like the iPhone 6 Plus. The Redmi Note 3 Pro had what seemed like paint on the antenna areas that was chipping off from just putting it in my pocket. The Mi A1 unfortunately had a major issue with the power button that many experienced, and after a drop in it's case, the screen began to lift slightly. This is not at all to scare you as things happen, and all of those phones were outstanding in terms of performance and battery life. Not to mention that all of these phones have been top notch perfomers (no, thats not a pun). Their flagships are pretty darn good for the price, same goes for quality in these. Another thing to note, flagships have better band support than the mid range or lower end (even if they have a Snapdragon processor). This is why I gave the Mi A1 up. I had LTE, but no data during calls, calls would not come though because of the lack of 3G or even 2G support for my carrier, no VoLTE and so on.
CUSTOM ROMS AND XIAOMI PHONES:
Not a good mix in my own experience, but there are some great roms. It's gotten better now that Xiaomi releases source codes even though it takes them a while, but usually the common issue is a lack of a variety of official roms, with many being buggy ports or so on. I hate LineageOS, but typically other roms use this as a base instead of being built from scratch. This is usually what I have come across Xiaomi phones, but who am I to talk, I love MIUI and have not touched a custom rom on Xiaomi phones since the...well A1 actually. MIUI is not for everyone however. There are some setbacks to some of their featues. The browser app for example is great, but auto playing videos gets very annoying, and it falls behind many other browsers out there (I use Chrome). Heavily modified manufacturer builds of Android such as MIUI usually runs better than custom roms though, so keep in mind that you may not get the 6 hour average of screen on time with heavy usage, or may experience more heat, etc.
THINGS YOU MENTIONED:
Now for some of the specific things you mentioned, MIUI always seemed to want to distance itself from Google, but it has gotten better over time. Look at the Mi A1 and A2 for example. I believe that these features just need better implementing. One thing I miss about stock Android is the newsfeed on the left side of home, like the iPhone. I don't understand why the MIUI launcher even had this section, it is useless as all it does is display things I could care less about, and I have to go to the Google app to access this newsfeed. Text to speech I believe now resides within the Google keyboard? Go to Settings > Additional Settings > Languages and Input > under Input Methods > Gboard > Preferences and enable Voice input key. Now you can tap the mic on the top right of the keyboard and talk to type. The text editing MIUI vs Google part has me confused. I believe it might depend on which app you use? If it's a Google app, it's a Google thing, if it's a MIUI app it's a MIUI thing maybe? If you could give some examples, I could investigate and see if there is a proper workaround.
BONUS:
A few secrets! VoLTE not working for you? Try changing your region to India or Hong Kong. Notifications not arriving on time or at all? This is a default battery saving featue, go to Settings > Battery & performance > under Battery Saver tap Choose apps and look for the app that's not receiving notifications (example Kik) and set to No restrictions. Missing your Facebook (or other app) chat heads? Go to Settings > Permissions > Other permissions and select the app in question. You will see Display pop-up window is disabled (red circle with an "X"), tap it and tap Accept. This is commonly referred to as drawing over other apps. I keep it off since it sometimes becomes a headache for changing other app's requested permissions on the fly. This is something that was added to Android after I believe Android 5.0 or so. It's a "security" feature, but if you just installed a new app lets say, have a Facebook chat head open, and that new app requests permission for contacts or so on, it may tell you to turn off the drawing app to change the permission, so I guess this explains why Xiaomi decided to keep it off by default.

anthroplus said:
I see... Seems like I'll have to live with these things related to Android in general.
I'm learning to enjoy using parts that work while training myself to ignore buggy stuff... As if they were never an option.
By focusing on features that work (no more and no less), it's far easier to enjoy this device.
But of course. Easier said than done. There's always temptation to feel FOMO for knowing that these basic things are supposed to actually work.
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It's actually the first time I've experienced a bug with any of Google's own apps. Frustrating since it's a new phone and I can't use it to it's full extent, but it'll fix itself eventually soon

ArmedandDangerous said:
It's actually the first time I've experienced a bug with any of Google's own apps. Frustrating since it's a new phone and I can't use it to it's full extent, but it'll fix itself eventually soon
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Looking forward to the fix!
Google Assistant is a major selling point that got me to move from iOS (Siri) to Android.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply!
Crossvxm said:
We have a wonderful theme store with tons of themes, something that cannot be said for other manufacturers that have added theme stores or theme apps
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I hear you... It's just that I'd rather stick to stock Xiaomi themes as most themes come with hiccups. Could be a couple missing icons or generally hit & miss quality.
In any case, I'm delighted by where MIUI 10 is visually and where it's headed!
Crossvxm said:
For MIUI, this is not the case, and again, people still haven't realized this sadly. Xiaomi pushes features and improvements through MIUI versions, so for the most part, Android versions are irrelevant to us. Obviously some features from the Android version are important such as the upcoming support for notches and multiple cameras, but for the MIUI ecosystem, everything you need to for your experience comes in the form of MIUI updates. Focus on MIUI version updates first, unless there is something very important in an upcoming Android version.
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Great point! I'm embracing this now actually.
MIUI is far better than TouchWiz, EMUI, and whatnot.
It doesn't matter if the updates come from Google or Xiaomi. I just want enough vendor attention so my phone stays secure and generally updated.
If Xiaomi can offer its own flavor of upgrades, I don't really care about missing out on Google's. Especially since I didn't buy the phone from them.
Crossvxm said:
CUSTOM ROMS AND XIAOMI PHONES... so keep in mind that you may not get the 6 hour average of screen on time with heavy usage, or may experience more heat, etc.
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I'm most inclined to keep it simple and just use the latest & greatest stable software from the manufacturer.
My hope is that Xiaomi will take care of me enough so I'd focus on using my phone over trying to do the job that I paid them to do.
Crossvxm said:
One thing I miss about stock Android is the newsfeed on the left side of home, like the iPhone. I don't understand why the MIUI launcher even had this section, it is useless as all it does is display things I could care less about, and I have to go to the Google app to access this newsfeed.
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I miss it too but I'm learning to accept that configuring this feature on my own is a hassle that I'd rather ignore.
I'd rather enjoy the Poco Launcher, which works well with the rest of MIUI. Without trying to make my phone mimic Google's ways.
Crossvxm said:
Text to speech I believe now resides within the Google keyboard? Go to Settings > Additional Settings > Languages and Input > under Input Methods > Gboard > Preferences and enable Voice input key. Now you can tap the mic on the top right of the keyboard and talk to type.
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My problem is getting the phone to read what's on the screen.
I can't summon this button: https://cl.ly/11b07bb89e9b
Crossvxm said:
The text editing MIUI vs Google part has me confused. I believe it might depend on which app you use? If it's a Google app, it's a Google thing, if it's a MIUI app it's a MIUI thing maybe? If you could give some examples, I could investigate and see if there is a proper workaround.
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Yes, the Google-style text selector appears mostly on Google-made apps and others like Evernote. Mysteriously, Google Search uses the MIUI style highlight buttons (the one with Select, Select All, Paste, etc)
Looking forward to hearing your feedback!

Question [poll] Which ROM do you prefer and why, on Mi 11 Ultra

One reason for choosing a ROM is obviously the region one lives in. But there are other possible reasons for going with a ROM from other regions or sources. I have tried almost all available ROMs (which I know of...) on my Mi 11 ultra which is originally CN version. I wanted to know which ROM is the most popular among the masses here...!

I use global, I have a global device and my provider (Vodafone UK) works best with this ROM, also I feel it is quite optimised

xNAPx said:
I use global, I have a global device and my provider (Vodafone UK) works best with this ROM, also I feel it is quite optimised
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I agree. Global works fine for me also. The only thing that is bothering me on Global ROM (besides the regular dark mode bugs) is the fact that the Android security patch is still from the month of May as of now.

I prefer the EU ROM as it is updated as the Chinese is but it still keeps the mi dialler and SMS app. I couldn't get on with the Google versions. Also no call recorder on global. Well there are loads of differences, the EU has the best of all versions. Some people find it slower than stock but as I don't game with my phone, it's good for me. I had the 10 ultra too and used Chinese and then EU on that too.

Sathelp said:
I prefer the EU ROM as it is updated as the Chinese is but it still keeps the mi dialler and SMS app. I couldn't get on with the Google versions. Also no call recorder on global. Well there are loads of differences, the EU has the best of all versions. Some people find it slower than stock but as I don't game with my phone, it's good for me. I had the 10 ultra too and used Chinese and then EU on that too.
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I gave it a try. The issue for me in EU was the buggy animations. Compared to the official global (and CN), the opening and closing animations of apps on EU were inconsistent and jittery.
Have you tried global/CN on your Mi 11 ultra? If yes, how are the animations on EU as compared to the global/CN for you?
For the call recording on global, if you set the region of the phone to the US or some other regions (where call recording is legal I guess), the default google dialer has the call recording function. It is just info, I am not trying to compare google dialer to mi dialer.

The thing I don't understand is why people want so much this call recording function, why you need to record your calls? Lol

xNAPx said:
The thing I don't understand is why people want so much this call recording function, why you need to record your calls? Lol
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Because I have early stage dementia. Recording calls is some times my saviour.

Hahaha, right I understand, sorry about that. Well I prefer fast apps loading XD

Sathelp said:
I prefer the EU ROM as it is updated as the Chinese is but it still keeps the mi dialler and SMS app. I couldn't get on with the Google versions. Also no call recorder on global. Well there are loads of differences, the EU has the best of all versions. Some people find it slower than stock but as I don't game with my phone, it's good for me. I had the 10 ultra too and used Chinese and then EU on that too.
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Do it have high refresh rate in YouTube ?
I believe only CN gives u that option from the beginning

hellodrsoul said:
I gave it a try. The issue for me in EU was the buggy animations. Compared to the official global (and CN), the opening and closing animations of apps on EU were inconsistent and jittery.
Have you tried global/CN on your Mi 11 ultra? If yes, how are the animations on EU as compared to the global/CN for you?
For the call recording on global, if you set the region of the phone to the US or some other regions (where call recording is legal I guess), the default google dialer has the call recording function. It is just info, I am not trying to compare google dialer to mi dialer.
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EU rom is a laggy disaster. I don't know why thought. Animation is laggy for suuure. Development don't want to even listen about it. I guess they using some old crap inside somewhere. (Old optimization that shouldn't be there)
CN rom is a if you know what to do with it. (I located in states and using tmobile)

I am almost curious to try the china rom on my global device, I think once put the language in English and debloated properly should be the best ROM. I don't know how people can be happy to use Xiaomi EU as it is laggy as ****, it is unacceptable to buy a device worth more than 1 grand and having performance of a poco phone lol, if you speak to the developers they do not address the problem, it doesn't even seem you are using a custom ROM lol, custom ROM used to be developed for performance and battery life and this is not the case
CN rom is a if you know what to do with it. (I located in states and using tmobile)
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Did you ever try the global ROM? How is the China Rom compared to this?

avetny said:
EU rom is a laggy disaster. I don't why thought. Animation is laggy for suuure. Development don't want to even listen about it. I guess they using some old crap inside somewhere. (Old optimization that shouldn't be there)
CN rom is a if you know what to do with it. (I located in states and using tmobile)
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I have tried it as it was the original ROM with which my phone shipped. It was the best (in terms of updates and smoothness). Problem with it was I did not find any option to restore from google drive when initially setting up the device (understandable as the ROM does not contain Gapps by default) and also there was no option to restore from google drive after installing google play from getapps. Is there a way to restore from previous backup from google drive on CN?

xNAPx said:
I am almost curious to try the china rom on my global device, I think once put the language in English and debloated properly should be the best ROM. I don't know how people can be happy to use Xiaomi EU as it is laggy as ****, it is unacceptable to buy a device worth more than 1 grand and having performance of a poco phone lol, if you speak to the developers they do not address the problem, it doesn't even seem you are using a custom ROM lol, custom ROM used to be developed for performance and battery life and this is not the case
Did you ever try the global ROM? How is the China Rom compared to this?
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Global rom is not perfect
hellodrsoul said:
CN was the best (in terms of updates and smoothness). Problem with it was I did not find any option to restore from google drive when initially setting up the device (understandable as the ROM does not contain Gapps by default) and also there was no option to restore from google drive after installing google play from getapps. Is there a way to restore from previous backup from google drive on CN?
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You see I never restore anything. I like to set up my phone from the scratch

avetny said:
EU rom is a laggy disaster. I don't why thought. Animation is laggy for suuure. Development don't want to even listen about it. I guess they using some old crap inside somewhere. (Old optimization that shouldn't be there)
CN rom is a if you know what to do with it. (I located in states and using tmobile)
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CN was the best (in terms of updates and smoothness). Problem with it was I did not find any option to restore from google drive when initially setting up the device (understandable as the ROM does not contain Gapps by default)and also there was no option to restore from google drive after installing google play from getapps. Is there a way to restore from previous backup from google drive on CN?
avetny said:
Global rom is not perfect
You see I never restore anything. I like to set up my phone from the scratch
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In that case yeah, CN is the best I think

avetny said:
Global rom is not perfect
You see I never restore anything. I like to set up my phone from the scratch
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Could you please share more details? At the moment with both ROMs having the MIUI 12.5, which would you tell it is more performing?

xNAPx said:
Could you please share more details? At the moment with both ROMs having the MIUI 12.5, which would you tell it is more perform
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Could you please share more details? At the moment with both ROMs having the MIUI 12.5, which would you tell it is more performing?
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I have used both. CN felt smoother than global and the last I checked, 12.5.10 CN included the June Android security patch. CN has mi dialer and mi messages which are nice apps. It also has a global searchbar on homescreen (akin to the Sesame app but nicer as it is natively supported). But there, you cannot set google or any other search engine which would provide results in English. All you have there are three search engines that are in Chinese. You cannot set the "ok google" command, cannot restore from google drive, and cannot have google feed on the left swipe in the default launcher. Also, the Chinese language is not eliminated entirely like the global, even if you set the phone language to English or the phone region to any other region using the more locale 2 app. For example, the theme store will always display results in Chinese, no matter what. Occasionally, you may get prompts in Chinese where it is not clear what the phone says obviously if you don't know Chinese. The dark mode bugs which are present on global are also present on CN.

hellodrsoul said:
I have tried almost all available ROMs (which I know of...) on my Mi 11 ultra which is originally CN version.
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Hey broo so which one is the best one? @hellodrsoul

strangersth said:
Hey broo so which one is the best one? @hellodrsoul
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In my experience, global is more usable for me. It has all goodies I prefer to have such as smooth performance and google services especially the backup and restore functionality. But it is not perfect. It has many bugs like other available ROMs (especially and ironically, the dark mode is buggy across all different ROMs) and the updates are slower too. I can forget about the addition of new features but lack of up-to-date security patches is not forgiveable for a flagship device.

hellodrsoul said:
One reason for choosing a ROM is obviously the region one lives in. But there are other possible reasons for going with a ROM from other regions or sources. I have tried almost all available ROMs (which I know of...) on my Mi 11 ultra which is originally CN version. I wanted to know which ROM is the most popular among the masses here...!
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After knowing that the latest weekly beta of Xiaomi.eu ROM included the August security patch and after the majority of folks here favoured this ROM, I decided to give Xiaomi.eu ROM another try. I installed the beta and ironically, there are no major bugs and even the animations are smoother than the stable Xiaomi.eu ROM I used before (12.5.2). So far liking it. The beta has some major feature updates besides the August security's patch such as the fully functional camera preview on the rear display (now the rear display can be used for portraits and videos etc.) I think it will not be justified if I use their ROM and do not give them their due credit here. So posting here to the older poll I started.

hellodrsoul said:
After knowing that the latest weekly beta of Xiaomi.eu ROM included the August security patch and after the majority of folks here favoured this ROM, I decided to give Xiaomi.eu TOM another trial. I installed the beta and ironically, there are no major bugs and even the animations are smoother than the stable Xiaomi.eu ROM I used before (12.5.2). So far liking it. The beta has some major feature updates besides the August security's patch such as the fully functional camera preview on the rear display (now the rear display can be used for portraits and videos etc.) I think it will not be justified if I use their ROM and do not give them their due credit here. So posting here to the older poll I started.
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How is battery life? I've seen great battery life management on stable 12.5.11.0, how is on the weekly?

Question Will we see Custom ROMs for this phone?

I was looking for a custom ROM (first Xiaomi phone,I hate MIUI, it sucks) while keeping the Camera featiures. but I realized there isn;t any out yet.
The 12 Pro has been out for 8+ months, and there still isn't any actual ROMs for it.
I wonder if we will see anything (Lineage for example) anytime soon.
Do you think the lack of ROMs is because devs are focused on other phones, or that the 12 Pro is just unpopular?

FrWhyMe said:
I was looking for a custom ROM (first Xiaomi phone,I hate MIUI, it sucks) while keeping the Camera featiures. but I realized there isn;t any out yet.
The 12 Pro has been out for 8+ months, and there still isn't any actual ROMs for it.
I wonder if we will see anything (Lineage for example) anytime soon.
Do you think the lack of ROMs is because devs are focused on other phones, or that the 12 Pro is just unpopular?
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If you don't like Miui, you had to buy a Pixel.
The 12 pro is not unpopular but expensive, it's more practical to have the phone to develop.
Wait and see.
MIUI indeed but better than stock.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/

NOSS8 said:
If you don't like Miui, you had to buy a Pixel.
The 12 pro is not unpopular but expensive, it's more practical to have the phone to develop.
Wait and see.
MIUI indeed but better than stock.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/
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I actually had a Pixel 6 that had issues (still loved it though), and wanted to replace it with something I hadn't tried before.
The 12 Pro is a great phone, I just have my gripes with MIUI now that it's been a couple months, but it is by no means bad, it's just personally not my favourite UI.
I will absolutely wait and see, this post is by no means complaining or begging, simply wondering if this is normal as I have never owned a Xiaomi device before!

FrWhyMe said:
I actually had a Pixel 6 that had issues (still loved it though), and wanted to replace it with something I hadn't tried before.
The 12 Pro is a great phone, I just have my gripes with MIUI now that it's been a couple months, but it is by no means bad, it's just personally not my favourite UI.
I will absolutely wait and see, this post is by no means complaining or begging, simply wondering if this is normal as I have never owned a Xiaomi device before!
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I understand but as said above the phone is relatively expensive and recent, you have to wait.
Yet the A12 source code is already there.https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/zeus-s-oss
To familiarize yourself with a Xiaomi you can try a Xiaomi EU rom, same than stock but with a lot of improvements and options and especially the call recorder.

NOSS8 said:
I understand but as said above the phone is relatively expensive and recent, you have to wait.
Yet the A12 source code is already there.https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/zeus-s-oss
To familiarize yourself with a Xiaomi you can try a Xiaomi EU rom, same than stock but with a lot of improvements and options and especially the call recorder.
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Not for xiaomi 12 and pro, i mean xiaomi eu rom

* Will there be any Custom ROMS?
> There might be one under development, Developer has been asking for support in the telegram channel, just search our device name in telegram and u may find it there
*Why aren't any custom ROM's available?
>Well Xiaomi 12 pro has a relatively smaller userbase and so there aren't many developers here, see even xda thread related to our device is very much deserted only a handful of people are here
*> why hate MIUI so much?
I love using MIUI, it has all the features built-in, I am using it from MIUI 9, and MIUI is one of the first to implement gesture navigation,
I have also used other Android skins like One UI, Color OS, Oxygen OS & Stock android, out of all those Oxygen OS older versions and stock android are good other than MIUI,
One UI is full of features but it causes lag I have Samsung Galaxy S7 tab which lags quite a bit
If u want to remove unused system apps just use tools like Xiaomi adb fastboot tool by szaki you can easily find it on google and it is easy to use too just enable USB Debugging and select which apps u want to remove this tool even has an option to reinstall removed apps
If possible try using Xiaomi EU ROM it is a polished version of stock MIUI ROM

vlubosh said:
Not for xiaomi 12 and pro, i mean xiaomi eu rom
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What do you want to say?

trinadhchinna7 said:
* Will there be any Custom ROMS?
> There might be one under development, Developer has been asking for support in the telegram channel, just search our device name in telegram and u may find it there
*> why hate MIUI so much?
I love using MIUI, it has all the features built-in, I am using it from MIUI 9, and MIUI is one of the first to implement gesture navigation,
I have also used other Android skins like One UI, Color OS, Oxygen OS & Stock android, out of all those Oxygen OS older versions and stock android are good other than MIUI,
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Telegram does not have free access like XDA.
Telegram plans to launch a paid plan to disable ads.
German authorities have initiated proceedings against the messaging app Telegram.
Telegram offers a Premium subscription.
There are increasing reports of scammers posing as administrators/employees of a group with a presence on Telegram.
I installed lots of AOSP roms on my previous phones in A10, A11, for example the BLISS roms in A12 have become ugly and coarse, no finesse (quick access), a lot of customization options have disappeared, which was the charm of these roms.
Wait and see.

NOSS8 said:
What do you want to say?
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If i am not wrong, there is no xiaomi.eu rom, just Stock Global or chinese, correct me.

vlubosh said:
If i am not wrong, there is no xiaomi.eu rom, just Stock Global or chinese, correct me.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-zeus-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-12-pro.4400035/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-cupid-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-12.4400041/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-thor-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-12s-ultra.4481389/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-unicorn-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-12s-pro.4481387/#post-87310469
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-mayfly-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-12s.4481383/
https://xiaomi.eu/community/​

NOSS8 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-zeus-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-12-pro.4400035/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-cupid-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-12.4400041/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-thor-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-12s-ultra.4481389/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-unicorn-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-12s-pro.4481387/#post-87310469
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-mayfly-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-12s.4481383/
https://xiaomi.eu/community/​
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I am not sure, this one for 12pro? Thanks

vlubosh said:
I am not sure, this one for 12pro? Thanks
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Yeap,Xiaomi 12 pro code name "ZEUS"

NOSS8 said:
Yeap,Xiaomi 12 pro code name "ZEUS"
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I know, but in the file is no codename, so

trinadhchinna7 said:
>why hate MIUI so much?
I love using MIUI, it has all the features built-in, I am using it from MIUI 9, and MIUI is one of the first to implement gesture navigation,
I have also used other Android skins like One UI, Color OS, Oxygen OS & Stock android, out of all those Oxygen OS older versions and stock android are good other than MIUI,
One UI is full of features but it causes lag I have Samsung Galaxy S7 tab which lags quite a bit
If u want to remove unused system apps just use tools like Xiaomi adb fastboot tool by szaki you can easily find it on google and it is easy to use too just enable USB Debugging and select which apps u want to remove this tool even has an option to reinstall removed apps
If possible try using Xiaomi EU ROM it is a polished version of stock MIUI ROM
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I am using the EU Rom as I am in the EU (even reflashed it after trying the A13 Beta).
The things I don't like about MIUI are mostly, well, about the UI:
- The Settings are absolutely nonsensical compared to any other phone I have ever used, specific features are all switched around, when most other UIs are kinda similar in their arrangement and sorting of settings
- MIUI looks super boring and has ads in their apps (that you have to manually disable)
- Some settings literally stop working if you uninstall specific apps (cannot change Lock Screen wallpaper through settings without the Xiaomi Gallery app, some battery settings and other settings dissapear if you uninstall Xiaomi Security)...
- You completely lose one of the main features of Android 12: the theming with the wallpaper, widgets, icons, etc... all lf those are removed in MIUI.
- Split-Screen SUCKS. You cannot resize the Youtube app, as it doesn't scale the window correctly and you lose the video, instead of doing it like every other UIs ny letting you only show the video; it doesn't scale the launcher so you lose access to your dock/bottom part of your screen, etc...
I feel like MIUI has removed a lot of what makes Android 12 appealing, and it will do the same with Android 13, which is why I want a more Stock A12/13 ROM, while keeping the Camera features (which you just need the app for).
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter whatsoever that Xiaomi has good Gesture Navigation, because I CANNOT use it.
I WANT to, but you HAVE to use the default launcher to use them. Changing the default launcher warns you that Gesture Navigation is only available with the stock launcher.
I need a different launcher so I can use my Icon Packs I paid for and have been using for years, as well as all the customization they give (rename apps, custom icons per app, hide apps in app drawer, etc.).
I have never had any of those issues with my previous phones (minus A12, since it is newer), and while the 12 Pro is still a great phone, it has so many issues.
I will wait for the ROMs patiently, but nothing will make me love MIUI unless they fix all of thoses issues I described above.

Still running stock MIUI (Android 11) fully debloated, native call recording (stock Indonesia ROM has it by default and works great outside of Indonesia), device is fully read/write-able thanks to my SystemRW/SuperRW feat. MakeRW script (link in my signature) which opens the door for endless customizations according to your personal preferences and I couldn't be any happier. As you can see you don't need to install a 3rd party ROM to be happy
And if my banking app is too intrusive I will simply uninstall it and do my money transactions with my browser app which never checks for root or if my selinux is permissive. I mean why would the browser app check such a thing? That's none of its business!

FrWhyMe said:
I am using the EU Rom as I am in the EU (even reflashed it after trying the A13 Beta).
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What you say absolutely does not correspond with the XIAOMI EU roms which have no ads, you may be talking about EEA stock roms for Europe (disabling the ads in the setup).

lebigmac said:
Still running stock MIUI (Android 11) fully debloated, native call recording (stock Indonesia ROM has it by default and works great outside of Indonesia), device is fully read/write-able thanks to my SystemRW/SuperRW feat. MakeRW script (link in my signature) which opens the door for endless customizations according to your personal preferences and I couldn't be any happier. As you can see you don't need to install a 3rd party ROM to be happy
And if my banking app is too intrusive I will simply block, disable, uninstall and force-delete it and do my money transactions with my browser app which never checks for root or if my selinux is permissive. I mean why would the browser app check such a thing? That's none of its business!
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Android 11 does not exist for the Xiaomi 12 pro.

NOSS8 said:
Android 11 does not exist for the Xiaomi 12 pro.
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How sad! A10 + A11 are the best versions!
You can try to compile A11 from source for your device if you like a challenge
That's okay though. You can make RW A12 too and debloat the hell out of it and customize it until you are happy with the results
A13 that's a different story altogether... I'll update my script to make it work with A13 but it's not as easy as with A10 or A11

lebigmac said:
How sad! After A11 only more useless bloatware and useless security features that nobody really needs were added to the OS that only slow the device down needlessly.
That's okay though. You can make RW A12 too and debloat the hell out of it and customize it until you are happy with the results
A13 that's a different story altogether...
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I too regret A11 for the AOSP which have become ugly with less customization and washed out colors.

NOSS8 said:
What you say absolutely does not correspond with the XIAOMI EU roms which have no ads, you may be talking about EEA stock roms for Europe (disabling the ads in the setup).
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I have the EEA Stock rom. I have disabled ads in setup, but I still got ads in the Security app and Themes, mostly because I reinstalled them after uninstalling them (I wish I didn't have to use them).