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Hi guys,
I noticed a small problem in my xperia z. As you know, the edges fiberglass chassis protrude slightly with respect to the panels of front and back glass. in my case I noticed that where there is the door to the sim, the board seems a little less prominent, as if the rear glass was a little more prominent. your are so well? is a problem caused by overheating of the processor? is something almost imperceptible so even taking pictures you could not see
anyone can say if you have the same situation? is it normal?
it does seem a little convex here now that you've mentioned it . Only a little
Yes Only a little...but now i think the Glass rests the surfaces in that point :/
Anyother?
fer2503 said:
Hi guys,
I noticed a small problem in my xperia z. As you know, the edges fiberglass chassis protrude slightly with respect to the panels of front and back glass. in my case I noticed that where there is the door to the sim, the board seems a little less prominent, as if the rear glass was a little more prominent. your are so well? is a problem caused by overheating of the processor? is something almost imperceptible so even taking pictures you could not see
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The glass is flexible, maybe it's that . Anyway, what problem does that cause to you?
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda premium
i think that now the glass touch the surface where i put the phone.
Android i suppose that the Phone Could have an internal problem. Possible?
Just had a really good look at mine and it looks perfectly flat so wouldn't say a curve in the back was normal.
Phil
It's very very Little...like 0.1 mm. Can this compromise water proof?
I see what you mean now, if I run my finger nail across the back towards the opposite side (with USB and microSD) my nail catches on the rubber edge protruding slightly, however, on the side with the SIM slot, the glass protrudes slightly further than the rubber edge, and so my nail slips off the edge of the phone.
The problem you'll see, because of this, is that when your phone lies flat on the desk, it should be resting on the rubber edge and not touching the glass, but on the SIM side, the glass touches the desk.
It might scratch the glass/screen protector but it shouldn't be a problem otherwise.
yes it's the same thing for me!!!...so i think that the only problem is the scratch of screen protector.
I restored the original form with a vise and a phone...but when i play a game and the phone became hot the problem return...so i think that is a stock
behavior of xperia z. the convex is imperceptible but the rear glass touch the surface and i can see some scratches on the sony stock film.I would not want that water came from this small curvature!
So I just received my Bamboo wood back Moto X yesterday. It has a small gap on one side of the bezel where the front and back halves meet, I've attached two pictures: one in which I'm squeezing the phone such that the gap closes, in the other it is left "open". The other side of the phone with the power/volume buttons doesn't have this problem.
Is this bezel gap pretty much par for the course in the wood backed phones? Any thoughts on is it worth returning the unit for another that hopefully doesn't have this problem, or should I just try to keep my OCD at bay?
How is the glass fit for everyone elses z3c? There is a decent size gap between the glass and plastic on the top side of my z3c, enough to where i can noticeably see dust and other material in the gap.
Am i alone? Is this a wide spread issue? It really takes away from the premium feel of the phone to see all this dust & crap between the glass and plastic :\. Will post up some pictures if they can make out anything.
It's not very noticeable for me, but there are smalls gaps all around the glass rear and front. It's not very visible on the black version, but I can see some debris stuck in there under bright light. I can also feel the gap with my nail. I have the impression that the bottom gap (backside) is a bit larger than the top gap. My previous phone, Xperia Acro S, had no gap around the glass whatsoever.
jug6ernaut said:
How is the glass fit for everyone elses z3c? There is a decent size gap between the glass and plastic on the top side of my z3c, enough to where i can noticeably see dust and other material in the gap.
Am i alone? Is this a wide spread issue? It really takes away from the premium feel of the phone to see all this dust & crap between the glass and plastic :\. Will post up some pictures if they can make out anything.
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My first one - black - had this pretty bad so I sent it back. I got a different colour instead - red/orange - so any dust collecting would hopefully be less noticeable, but the gap is actually less in this replacement. There's only a small one at the top of the front glass now.
So I think the cut of their glass panels is maybe not as precise as it should be and there is a bit of variance. But most people will have gaps of varying degrees I think..
withoutwings said:
My first one - black - had this pretty bad so I sent it back. I got a different colour instead - red/orange - so any dust collecting would hopefully be less noticeable, but the gap is actually less in this replacement. There's only a small one at the top of the front glass now.
So I think the cut of their glass panels is maybe not as precise as it should be and there is a bit of variance. But most people will have gaps of varying degrees I think..
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If you feel on the left and right sides with you finger nail, can you feel your nail "drop" a little bit between the glass and plastic, with the replacement unit?
degraaff said:
If you feel on the left and right sides with you finger nail, can you feel your nail "drop" a little bit between the glass and plastic, with the replacement unit?
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Maybe just, but it's not enough for dust to get in any more. Only at the top now is the gap large-enough for dust.
withoutwings said:
Maybe just, but it's not enough for dust to get in any more. Only at the top now is the gap large-enough for dust.
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Ah, sounds like how it is for mine. I think they all have this to some degree. I wonder if Sony has a technical reason for the gaps?
Going to return my z3c and get another one which will hopefully have a better fitting screen. The spacing between the plastic band around the screen and the "translucent plastic" is also big enough where debris gotten stuck in it. Very disappointing.
jug6ernaut said:
Going to return my z3c and get another one which will hopefully have a better fitting screen. The spacing between the plastic band around the screen and the "translucent plastic" is also big enough where debris gotten stuck in it. Very disappointing.
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That spacing is always going to be there I think. Well it's not actually a spacing, it's just because the finish between the plastic band and the translucent sides is not a flush finish. This is just the design of the phone. It does catch some small debris on mine as well, but it's relatively easy to remove.
At least you can wash your phone if it gets too dusty.
Just don't do it under running tap water.
degraaff said:
That spacing is always going to be there I think. Well it's not actually a spacing, it's just because the finish between the plastic band and the translucent sides is not a flush finish. This is just the design of the phone. It does catch some small debris on mine as well, but it's relatively easy to remove.
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This is not the spacing i'm referring to. I talking about between the glass and the plastic. It definitely is not apart of the design of hte phone, as the right left and bottom edges are almost perfectly flush.
jug6ernaut said:
This is not the spacing i'm referring to. I talking about between the glass and the plastic. It definitely is not apart of the design of hte phone, as the right left and bottom edges are almost perfectly flush.
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"The spacing between the plastic band around the screen and the "translucent plastic" is also big enough where debris gotten stuck in it."
That is the part my reply was about.
degraaff said:
"The spacing between the plastic band around the screen and the "translucent plastic" is also big enough where debris gotten stuck in it."
That is the part my reply was about.
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Ah gotcha. Yeah that spacing is disappointing but i'm "ok" with it. The glass spacing on the other hand i'm not ok with.
also mine has the gap in the left part,the right part its perfect
as you said probably the screen its not fit perfect,but for me its ok because i only see it if i look carefully.
I think it could actually be a safety measurement: if the phone falls and hits the ground with that plastic rim, the relatively small gap could prevent the impact from being directly transferred onto the glass.
degraaff said:
I think it could actually be a safety measurement: if the phone falls and hits the ground with that plastic rim, the relatively small gap could prevent the impact from being directly transferred onto the glass.
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I could believe that if it was the same gal on top and bottom, front and back. But it's not, it's only front top.
I forgot to carefully survey my brand new screen before putting on protector on it, which has as always has 2 or 3 dust particles under it. I'm worried that since I didn't look at the screen very carefully before putting the protector on, that it's actually under the screen glass and not the protector but if I lift it up to check it will ruin the application. Do these super amoled screens have issues with dust getting between the glass and screen during manufacture or is this not a problem ?
Possibly? If it's a crappy screen protector, who cares. 99.9% chance it's under the protector, so get it out. If it's a glass one, it's possible to lift it up on the edge and slide a dust removal sticker or piece of tape under and get the dust out... I did it on my G3 but I kept losing grip of the corner under my fingernail so there is a slight part of the corner that no longer sticks perfectly.
Nitemare3219 said:
Possibly? If it's a crappy screen protector, who cares. 99.9% chance it's under the protector, so get it out. If it's a glass one, it's possible to lift it up on the edge and slide a dust removal sticker or piece of tape under and get the dust out... I did it on my G3 but I kept losing grip of the corner under my fingernail so there is a slight part of the corner that no longer sticks perfectly.
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To prevent this, instead of using your fingernail which causes a slight bend in the plastic, use a piece of tape stuck to the corner to slowly lift the corner edge without bending. I use to always bend corners before switching to this method.
done12many2 said:
To prevent this, instead of using your fingernail which causes a slight bend in the plastic, use a piece of tape stuck to the corner to slowly lift the corner edge without bending. I use to always bend corners before switching to this method.
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Well mine is glass and cost $30 which is why I didn't want to replace it. If it's a cheap plastic one, just replace it and do it right.
Sent from my LG G3
Sumsung fuses the Glass and Digitizer, so it is highly unlikely that the dust is actually under the screen.
it is dust free
ingenious247 said:
Sumsung fuses the Glass and Digitizer, so it is highly unlikely that the dust is actually under the screen.
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What he said. I've had that problem in the past with iPhones (LCD) but it shouldn't be an issue with Samsung's AMOLEDs. It's infinitely more likely that you just have dust under the screen protector. I install these at work all the time, sometimes it happens.
Feels really nice but doesn't have much or any drop protection.
Some pics from your amusement. Lower part of case where the usb port is , very thin flimsy silicon.
There is the same "problem" or "design specificity" with the "U" shape. I am referring to the the fact that the screen itself is only protected on the vertical bars of the U and not on the horizontal bar of the U (most likely due to the fact that the screen bends into the phone side).
Also it seems on the second picture that the bulge of the camera lens is still going out with your case?
Do you use a protection for that camera lens, like some glass cover or something?
Update on my review after a few days of usage. Pinky finger fatigue due to the sharp edge of the lower back material meeting the silicon tpu , it's raised and cuts into pinky finger.
5 out of 10. Not worth it.
Going back to my Ringke Air and Spigen thin fit , both offer slightly better protection but more importantly more comfortable to hold at around 70% less in price .
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There is the same "problem" or "design specificity" with the "U" shape. I am referring to the the fact that the screen itself is only protected on the vertical bars of the U and not on the horizontal bar of the U (most likely due to the fact that the screen bends into the phone side).
Also it seems on the second picture that the bulge of the camera lens is still going out with your case?
Do you use a protection for that camera lens, like some glass cover or something?
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The lens area of the cover is raised slightly and yes I have a lens cover .
Limeybastard said:
Update on my review after a few days of usage. Pinky finger fatigue due to the sharp edge of the lower back material meeting the silicon tpu , it's raised and cuts into pinky finger.
5 out of 10. Not worth it.
Going back to my Ringke Air and Spigen thin fit , both offer slightly better protection but more importantly more comfortable to hold at around 70% less in price .
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Take a look at the Bolt case. Been using it for my 10+ for over a year. My favorite case ever.
Doesn't add much bulk, easy to hold and in spite of half dozen plus drops on concrete shows no damage*. 2 layer composite or 3 layer if you use the clip on back; it's very well protected in that configuration.
*replace one out of concern of corner fatigue from repeated same corner hits. At $20 a pop better safe than sorry...
blackhawk said:
Take a look at the Bolt case. Been using it for my 10+ for over a year. My favorite case ever.
Doesn't add much bulk, easy to hold and in spite of half dozen plus drops on concrete shows no damage*. 2 layer composite or 3 layer if you use the clip on back; it's very well protected in that configuration.
*replace one out of concern of corner fatigue from repeated same corner hits. At $20 a pop better safe than sorry...
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It's too lumpy, remember - death grip comment?
Limeybastard said:
It's too lumpy, remember - death grip comment?
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Lol, yeah. I don't notice that in actual use. It doesn't slip out of your hand easily.
I'm holding it by it's flip out stand as I pecked this out. A lot of ways to easily hold it.
Talking of death grips I have the Kyber 2 mountain boots which are great but they're a bear to lace up tight. Finally realized after straining a second first finger joint that the lace up was the cause. Damn finger strain hurts.
So I can see you crippling yourself with the wrong case
blackhawk said:
Lol, yeah. I don't notice that in actual use. It doesn't slip out of your hand easily.
I'm holding it by it's flip out stand as I pecked this out. A lot of ways to easily hold it.
Talking of death grips I have the Kyber 2 mountain boots which are great but they're a bear to lace up tight. Finally realized after straining a second first finger joint that the lace up was the cause. Damn finger strain hurts.
So I can see you crippling yourself with the wrong case
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I might treat myself to one for educational purposes since I'm giving up smoking lol.
Don't worry, I cripple myself just cutting hedges lately .
Limeybastard said:
I might treat myself to one for educational purposes since I'm giving up smoking lol.
Don't worry, I cripple myself just cutting hedges lately .
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I like cigars.
Good as long as you remember never to inhale... sometimes I forget, briefly
blackhawk said:
I like cigars.
Good as long as you remember never to inhale... sometimes I forget, briefly
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I'd only be kidding myself with a cigar or a pipe. I'd stopped for 8 years until last year.
Reference the Zizo bolt case, are the insides soft or hard plastic?
Limeybastard said:
I'd only be kidding myself with a cigar or a pipe. I'd stopped for 8 years until last year.
Reference the Zizo bolt case, are the insides soft or hard plastic?
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High density urethane. The last corner can be tough to put in. Fair warning: use care in this stage with a screen protector. Glass ones may not have clearance, not sure*. I use a piece of stretched teflon tape to protect the buttons and R/L side rails from dirt and make insertion easier.
Warming it in the sun etc may help... will try this next time.
Obviously you then the snap on polycarbonate back piece on last. This piece is stiff but almost impossible to break. Put the button side on first.
Button side is last when disassembling.
With the fold out stand: either leave it snapped in or use fully extended. The retaining pins can slip out if left loose in pocket. They can be put back in if not lost as I discovered one day. Otherwise it's surprisingly sturdy; I use it constantly.
*since it's urethane you can easily machine, cut, file, sand it if you need to but I recommend not to unless absolutely needed as that could reduce the level of protection.
Lol, it will be ok
blackhawk said:
High density urethane. The last corner can be tough to put in. Fair warning: use care in this stage with a screen protector. Glass ones may not have clearance, not sure*. I use a piece of stretched teflon tape to protect the buttons and R/L side rails from dirt and make insertion easier.
Warming it in the sun etc may help... will try this next time.
Obviously you then the snap on polycarbonate back piece on last. This piece is stiff but almost impossible to break. Put the button side on first.
Button side is last when disassembling.
With the fold out stand: either leave it snapped in or use fully extended. The retaining pins can slip out if left loose in pocket. They can be put back in if not lost as I discovered one day. Otherwise it's surprisingly sturdy; I use it constantly.
*since it's urethane you can easily machine, cut, file, sand it if you need to but I recommend not to unless absolutely needed as that could reduce the level of protection.
Lol, it will be ok
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What worries me, and it has done so since my using a hard inner plastic case in the past is damage to the frame of the device. Yes, dirt will cause this , but I regularly remove devices and dust out the frame and case. But with hard gizzarded cases I always seem to get micro marring or scratches on frames. Hence I've avoided them like a plague during the last 5 years.
Limeybastard said:
What worries me, and it has done so since my using a hard inner plastic case in the past is damage to the frame of the device. Yes, dirt will cause this , but I regularly remove devices and dust out the frame and case. But with hard gizzarded cases I always seem to get micro marring or scratches on frames. Hence I've avoided them like a plague during the last 5 years.
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It happens with soft silicon inner liners too
This really irritates me... to put it politely.
Therefor the teflon tape. It's a little tedious but it's cheap so you can practice.
No damage yet to my 10+ doing it this way.
I start just after the holes on the top, around the corner to as far as the first hole on the bottom.
I stretch it somewhat and try to keep it right below the screen. Same on other side but take the spen out them simply punch through the tape.
The stretch at the corners hold it in place.
It can get pushed out when putting on the case but that's just cosmetic. It can be pushed down but some while may show.
Seals it well from that damn grit.
If you have any better ideas, please share.
blackhawk said:
It happens with soft silicon inner liners too
This really irritates me... to put it politely.
Therefor the teflon tape. It's a little tedious but it's cheap so you can practice.
No damage yet to my 10+ doing it this way.
I start just after the holes on the top, around the corner to as far as the first hole on the bottom.
I stretch it somewhat and try to keep it right below the screen. Same on other side but take the spen out them simply punch through the tape.
The stretch at the corners hold it in place.
It can get pushed out when putting on the case but that's just cosmetic. It can be pushed down but some while may show.
Seals it well from that damn grit.
If you have any better ideas, please share.
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Yep soft silicon as its name implies contains silicon , one can clearly see the micro marring on high polished silver frames when using these.
Limeybastard said:
Yep soft silicon as its name implies contains silicon , one can clearly see the micro marring on high polished silver frames when using these.
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It's a polymer based on silicon, it is no more abrasive than soft plastics.
Silicone - Wikipedia
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It's actually the external grit that causes the marring. If you seal the surfaces completely from foriegn particles they will stay pristine.
blackhawk said:
It's a polymer based on silicon, it is no more abrasive than soft plastics.
Silicone - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
It's actually the external grit that causes the marring. If you seal the surfaces completely from foriegn particles they will stay pristine.
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I've seen silicon cases marring stainless steel frames, and these were cleaned before , however, the device and the case were placed in a grip like a car phone holder . Using tpu or other plastics didn't cause marring. I've ran tests as nerdy as it sounds