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Find it to be verging very close to false advertising when a product sold as a 16gb device in reality is only a 11gb. That's 5 entire gb missing to the OS. That's fairly huge, but either way, don't market something as 16gb. Where's this extra 5 going to exactly?
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Last I hear it was 12.55GB available.
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Where's this extra 5 going to exactly?
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OS?
Damn, that's a lot of space gone. More than any carrier bloated phone I've used before. Glad I opted for the 32gb model.
In fact, the total space listed in storage is 12gb, of which almost 11 is 'available'. I don't get it. Surely the total space should be 16gb.
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It's been this way with phones for ages now. The advertised memory always includes the OS reserved partition. And it is 12.5GB last I checked.
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In fact, the total space listed in storage is 12gb, of which almost 11 is 'available'. I don't get it. Surely the total space should be 16gb.
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No phone ever has the total amount of space available, though.
could be worse OP,
you could own a Surface RT
prawnguevara said:
Find it to be verging very close to false advertising when a product sold as a 16gb device in reality is only a 11gb. That's 5 entire gb missing to the OS. That's fairly huge, but either way, don't market something as 16gb. Where's this extra 5 going to exactly?
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This isn't anything new? Any device advertised as 16Gb has generally 11-12 Gb effectively available for user storage, rest of it goes into formatting information, OS (system apps etc) and stuff. Also, it's the difference between counting GB as 1000 vs 1024 MB.
prawnguevara said:
Find it to be verging very close to false advertising when a product sold as a 16gb device in reality is only a 11gb. That's 5 entire gb missing to the OS. That's fairly huge, but either way, don't market something as 16gb. Where's this extra 5 going to exactly?
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That does seem like a lot, but straight from their site in the memory specs it says:
Memory
16 GB internal storage (actual formatted capacity will be less)
2 GB RAM
There are always these posts when a new phone comes out. The storage is total, not what is left after the OS is on it. Look at a Samsung or HTC phone and see how much they use, it will blow you away how much space all the skins take, not to mention how much all of the bloatware a carrier puts on it.
The 5gb is taken up with the OS and related files as well as built in apps as well as the disparity between disk size marketing and actual disk size.
All hard drives and memory are marketed with 1GB = 1000MB whereas computers actually define 1 GB as 1024MB, so that already drops you down to about 15gb including file system formatting.
The other 4GB will be the apps and stuff installed that make your phone work.
11GB free is actually pretty good. The Samsung Galaxy S4 only had 9GB free from 16GB.
Wouldn't it be wierd though if they advertised like 20.42 gigs of memory. But I would like one day to actually have 16 gigs of storage.
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Damn, that's a lot of space gone. More than any carrier bloated phone I've used before. Glad I opted for the 32gb model.
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The Galaxy S 4 had 8.5GB of free space on the 16GB model.
This is why you bite the bullet and pay $50 more for the 32gb.
Then you won't spend the rest of your days with the phone kicking yourself for not just buying the larger memory device.
Was exactly the same with the n4... No shocks here
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12.55, not 11.
Advertising has been this way for years, on hard drives, etc. Worthless rant >.>
Nothing new, was like that for the Nexus 4 as well.
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That does seem like a lot, but straight from their site in the memory specs it says:
Memory
16 GB internal storage (actual formatted capacity will be less)
2 GB RAM
There are always these posts when a new phone comes out. The storage is total, not what is left after the OS is on it. Look at a Samsung or HTC phone and see how much they use, it will blow you away how much space all the skins take, not to mention how much all of the bloatware a carrier puts on it.
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gonna pre order s10+, trying to decide if it worth it to get the 512 gb ram model for +$250
I know I can buy the microsd card for 512gb, which is a lot of cheaper, but i heard it a real pain to manage and move apps back and forth.
Can you record videos directly to the sdcard? Is there any real disadvantage to just getting the 128 and buying a 512 sdcard?
Read/Write operations executed from portable storage will generally fail to compare to UFS/NVME. Onboard storage is on a completely different level. What's more, we don't know how fast the SD card reader is yet. Notebookcheck normally runs IO benchmarks.
kongfranon said:
gonna pre order s10+, trying to decide if it worth it to get the 512 gb ram model for +$250
I know I can buy the microsd card for 512gb, which is a lot of cheaper, but i heard it a real pain to manage and move apps back and forth.
Can you record videos directly to the sdcard? Is there any real disadvantage to just getting the 128 and buying a 512 sdcard?
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I usually don't need much storage and I go for lower 128GB model, but if I need more storage later, than I can buy a fast SD Card and enjoy added storage. Added storage in my case would only be used for multimedia consumption such as mp3, photos and videos. If you buy a nice SD Card, then you can record 4k videos on it as it would be pretty fast.
If I would go for 512GB model, but not use it down the read, then it means I have wasted $250 for nothing.
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gonna pre order s10+, trying to decide if it worth it to get the 512 gb ram model for +$250
I know I can buy the microsd card for 512gb, which is a lot of cheaper, but i heard it a real pain to manage and move apps back and forth.
Can you record videos directly to the sdcard? Is there any real disadvantage to just getting the 128 and buying a 512 sdcard?
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I wish there was a 512 ram version lol
I just record everything onto the onboard storage and just transfer to Micro SD after. No issues there for me.
kongfranon said:
gonna pre order s10+, trying to decide if it worth it to get the 512 gb ram model for +$250
I know I can buy the microsd card for 512gb, which is a lot of cheaper, but i heard it a real pain to manage and move apps back and forth.
Can you record videos directly to the sdcard? Is there any real disadvantage to just getting the 128 and buying a 512 sdcard?
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Yes, you can. https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/...-save-to-sd-card-instead-of-to-device-memory/
Hello guys, please tell which of this two versions you've got and why.
Does it mather to pay about +-50 more to get the 128GB version instead of 64GB, if just the storage size changes?
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Hello guys, please tell which of this two versions you've got and why.
Does it mather to pay about +-50 more to get the 128GB version instead of 64GB, if just the storage size changes?
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Well sadly no expandable storage which sucks, so get 128gb if you can. Personally I have 64gb because thats the only version available at Amazon.
I depends on your usage, how much space do you use on your current phone?
I had less than 20gb left on my 64gb Mi A2, and now, i have 73 gb left on my 128gb Mi 9, if i had the 64gb version, i would have only 9gb left. You also need to think about your space for 2 years from now, and also for the resell value.
I bought the 128gb and I don't know why. 64GB would be enough.
Buying the 64GB here. Even with Netflix downloads, a few GB games and tons of photos., I’m hoovering at 20 GB free space after a year and a half. Google Photos saves a lot of space and unlimeted cloud storage in a decent enough quality.
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I depends on your usage, how much space do you use on your current phone?
I had less than 20gb left on my 64gb Mi A2, and now, i have 73 gb left on my 128gb Mi 9, if i had the 64gb version, i would have only 9gb left. You also need to think about your space for 2 years from now, and also for the resell value.
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Running 32GB internal + 64GB external, but most is on external SD btw. I have some OTG C to use too.
128g here! the way i look at it rather have too much than not enough haha
I have 6GB/128GB because the Mi 9 has no external storage
I have the Mi 9 because Belsimpel (dutch shop) only has the 128GB version in blue.
I wanted the 128gb version but it was out of my budget (was way overpriced too). So i went with the 64gb and to be honest i'm gonna miss my 128gb i had with my redmi note 4 as external storage ... but oh well at least i can sell it and get some money back out of it. c:
I have 6/64 and for me it is ok.
I don't need many space in mobile phone, just some gb for mp3 to listen in can via bluetooth.
If better 64 o 128 gb depend of your own use of mobile phone.
bought the 128gb version myself as the price i got on it was quite cheap but 64 one would have been just fine too (as i had a 32gb s7 edge previously with 32gb sdcard)
256GB, the more the merrier
Do note that the storage speed differs quite a bit between the two versions. The 128GB one has faster sequential reads (almost 800MB/s, compared to 620-690 the 64GB one gets) while the 64GB one has almost twice as fast seq write speeds (about 390MB/s compared to 180-ish the 128GB one gets). The other parameters are usually in line, they also tend to differ between ROM versions on the global dev I've been running until now.
My current phone is the LG V10 so I went with the 8/128. I don't like buying phones so I wanted to make sure this one lasts as long as possible.
Noticed that no-one is mentioning how much space you do actually get after turning the phone for the first time. I have see somewhere that 128g version has 117g free. Is this true?
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Noticed that no-one is mentioning how much space you do actually get after turning the phone for the first time. I have see somewhere that 128g version has 117g free. Is this true?
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Yup. I just roughly calculated it and I got 116,88gb. Don't remember the exact value.
Try get 128. But only if you use your camera often (specially video). I bought 64gb and now only my gallery take 15GB. 4min video from some event takes 1, 2GB. So let's think before.
I got the 64gb because the 128gb was too expensive when I ordered it. I use Google Photos so no storage space used for photos on my phone and it's free. Thanks whoever posted the RAM speed differences. I was unaware. I wonder if the 256gb has faster speeds?
Just before I purchased the phone, I changed my mind and went for 64gb version.
My previous phone had 64gb storage and 64gb SD card, and I was using around 100gb of the total.
On the way to the shop I had a little cleaning, and checked the files on my SD card and it turned out almost all is useless and I just keep it on my phone (I had 2 year old TWRP backups, many custom ROMs and mods that I don't need and use etc)
Same apps and similar amount of downloads (on Netflix, Spotify, Photos etc) and I have 30gb free on my 64gb Mi 9. So, I don't think 128gb is necessary for a regular user.
Now, I can use the 50 euros I saved, in buying a 20W wireless charger and a power-bank.
In March 2016 I bought my Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910C, after spending 4 years with a Samsung Galaxy S3. (great device by the way).
However, one thing I've been missing in Note 4 is the lack of more internal memory. 32Gb is already running low. I've been buying a new Note for a long time, but with 128GB and SD slot. I think of Note 9 ...
I know that many here still have Note 4, as it is a spectacular device even over the years. Is anyone already thinking about migrating to a device with 128GB or more?
It's only about your expectations of your phone. Internal applications couldn't be installed on External Memory (SD Card or OTG Storage), so if you use a lot of applications, you may change your Note 4 instead any phone which has a larger internal capacity.
I've also had a Note 4 since March 2016. (As same as with you. ) I'm OK with its octa-core processor, 515 PPI Quad-HD Screen, external storage (I'm using it with 512 GB Samsung MicroSD, so its 32 GB Internal storage isn't problem for me.), 16 MP quite sharp Camera etc, it is still great phone around many specs. But, its 3 GB RAM (And because of its software, we could use only approx. half of it.) isn't enough anymore. Without reloading, it couldn't keep anything on its virtual memory. Thus, sometimes it may be slow while using Chrome etc. I'm still OK with it but after a few months, at most after a year, I'm not sure about I will say "I'm still OK with it."
Thanks for the answer.
After I returned to Lollipop 5.1.1, a lot of internal memory was left compared to Android 6.0.1.
The sd card is almost full too and I may need to buy a bigger one. I have a 64GB Sandisk.
I'm doing my best not to spend money on a new cell phone now, but it will be the way.
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Thanks for the answer.
After I returned to Lollipop 5.1.1, a lot of internal memory was left compared to Android 6.0.1.
The sd card is almost full too and I may need to buy a bigger one. I have a 64GB Sandisk.
I'm doing my best not to spend money on a new cell phone now, but it will be the way.
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I use 256GB SD card as adoptable storage to increase internal storage
Lollipop does not allow the external card to be used as internal storage and even so, if the memory card becomes corrupt or fails, you lose everything.
You can't even recover what's in the internal storage.
That was once I read it on a forum
It's possible to enable adoptable storage on the Note4 by flashing adoptable_storage_enabler_ashyx.zip .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....patch-adoptable-storage-enabler-t3460478/amp/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/thread/3460478?query=Note 4
Theres also possible to partition the external sd card with a rooted Note 4 by use of Link2SD and App2SD. Its been a long time since I did this but I believe one partition is Fat32 and the other ExFat or possibly f2fs. Its best done on Lollipop. You could even make a third partition for 1Gb simulated ram . The simulated ram will reduce the life experience of you external sd and I didn't find much benefit with it anyway. You'll also need an app called Foulder Mount.
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I noticed that my Tab S8+ is getting a bit sluggish so I thought I'd check the memory after rebooting. I bought the Tab S8+ 256GB 5G model which was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM. It looks like mine has 4GB of physical memory but another 4GB using "Memory Plus".
Surely this is a scam and therefore not legal.
Am I the only one? Should I take this to trading standards?
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I noticed that my Tab S8+ is getting a bit sluggish so I thought I'd check the memory after rebooting. I bought the Tab S8+ 256GB 5G model which was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM. It looks like mine has 4GB of physical memory but another 4GB using "Memory Plus".
Surely this is a scam and therefore not legal.
Am I the only one? Should I take this to trading standards?
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I'd be careful about making assumptions about what you consider legal. It is true that many companies toe the line when it comes to false advertising.
In this case, Samsung is using some of the storage as RAM; they're doing this because volatile RAM is fairly expensive and power hungry, whereas NVRAM is cheaper and does not require power to maintain its state. It's essentially the same thing as a paging file in Windows. There's no scam, it's just a marketing gimmick, albeit a technically inaccurate one.
On my SM-X808U, it is called RAM Plus and it is user adjustable between 2 GB and 8. It does not affect the amount of installed memory which is 8GB.
Where did you see 4+4? It's 8+4. Just disable the memory plus, it's easily doable with one ui 5.
Download aida64 before you say it's scam. Since that app registers after how much RAM is installed. For me it says 16GB LPDDR5. Then you have RAM plus to extend ram even more, by using storage.
Mine is a s8 ultra