[Q] [ZB551KL] Micro scratches on screen - Asus Zenfone Go Questions & Answers

Hey guys, I have recently noticed my screen got 3/2 micro scratches, so now I'm wondering, aren't these scratches on the oleophobic coating? I wonder because I have used other devices for years in the past with stock/plastic screen (without protectors) and none of them got a single scratch. And no, I haven't done any such thing to make it prone to scratch, I'm a extremely careful person. Isn't it supposed to gorilla glass be more resistant than plastic? What's going on?

Krush206 said:
Hey guys, I have recently noticed my screen got 3/2 micro scratches, so now I'm wondering, aren't these scratches on the oleophobic coating? I wonder because I have used other devices for years in the past with stock/plastic screen (without protectors) and none of them got a single scratch. And no, I haven't done any such thing to make it prone to scratch, I'm a extremely careful person. Isn't it supposed to gorilla glass be more resistant than plastic? What's going on?
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Gorilla Glass is not scratch-proof. It's scratch resistant. Tempered glass are there for a reason.
And please post on the correct forums.

Saktis_STi said:
Gorilla Glass is not scratch-proof. It's scratch resistant. Tempered glass are there for a reason.
And please post on the correct forums.
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I'm aware of this but how come my older devices with plastic screen didn't scratch? I find this totally inaccurate, plastic is much more softer and prone to scratch than glass. I'm not sure if every device with Gorilla Glass comes with coating by default, though, I can notice some weird smudge spots on my screen which looks darker than the whole screen, specially where I usually touch it, it's only visible when the screen is dirty, perhaps, there is a coating and it's wearing out?

Krush206 said:
I'm aware of this but how come my older devices with plastic screen didn't scratch? I find this totally inaccurate, plastic is much more softer and prone to scratch than glass. I'm not sure if every device with Gorilla Glass comes with coating by default, though, I can notice some weird smudge spots on my screen which looks darker than the whole screen, specially where I usually touch it, it's only visible when the screen is dirty, perhaps, there is a coating and it's wearing out?
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The coating is wearing out.

Saktis_STi said:
Gorilla Glass is not scratch-proof. It's scratch resistant. Tempered glass are there for a reason.
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gorilla glass 3.... very bad glass?

Guys! I'm very Sorry to note that my phone have a lot of scratches in the screen... I think it is caused by nails but my last phone (lg 2x) with gorilla glass 2 havent any scratch... Now I bought a screen protector... And you?
And me.
Same here. Gorilla Glass 3 suckzz... I applied screenguard as my screen was prone to scratches.
Me too, it's sad because first weak and i get a scratch, but my nexus 7 2012 have no scrath at all and i bought it 1 year ago.
No scratches here, and I have never used a screen protector
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no protector here and no scratches either
Wenzo2 said:
Guys! I'm very Sorry to note that my phone have a lot of scratches in the screen... I think it is caused by nails but my last phone (lg 2x) with gorilla glass 2 havent any scratch... Now I bought a screen protector... And you?
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I never used screen protector.
I learned it the hard way on my HTC one X (gorilla glass 2). Never wipe your screen with your cloth. It will contain sand grains and that scratches any glass surface.
On my nexus5, I use glasses wipe, and its still in perfect condition.
Hope this helps.
I've had plenty of phones with Gorilla Glass and ALL of them got scratched if used without a screen protector... people need to understand that Gorilla Glass is only scratch-resistant, not scratch-proof. If you don't want scratches, use a screen protector, no matter what.
or take care of ur phone
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant until we see some sapphire glass covers with 9h-10h they will be theoretically scratch proof seeing I tried to scratch the iPhone 5 sapphire lens cover and nothing .
Buy some tempered glass on eBay I Bought one for 5$ its good overall
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Mine has those microscratches, which apparently are in the oleophobic layer. Tough, but I can live with them. If it get's any worse I might apply a (glass) screenprotector, but I really prefer naked.
Yeah it's bad. Either they used really cheap GG3, or just used a cheap oleophobic coating. Good thing I have tmo so I can just get another phone when it gets really bad...Thanks jump!
SO many minerals can scratch gorilla glass. It stops stuff like keys from scratching the glass, but get a piece of sand 0.5mm big in your pocket, and your screen is toast
Bubble-be said:
Mine has those microscratches, which apparently are in the oleophobic layer. Tough, but I can live with them. If it get's any worse I might apply a (glass) screenprotector, but I really prefer naked.
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I got rid of some of my scratches that are on the anti-fingerprint layer however the deeper one I could not fix
fixed it with this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Proteger-Sm...t=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item2335b86414
I think the glass screen protectors are the way to go. For $15-$25 you just don't have to worry about it and it's a little extra protection if dropped. Plus it feels naked
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Aenima462 said:
SO many minerals can scratch gorilla glass. It stops stuff like keys from scratching the glass, but get a piece of sand 0.5mm big in your pocket, and your screen is toast
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This ^^^
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It sounds stupid, but I always blow on my screen after it's been in my pocket for a while to get any micro particles off of it. Like somebody else said, all it takes is a single grain of sand combined with a wipe of a cloth or a swipe of a finger to wreak havoc. If I see stubborn particles on my screen, will always dab them with my finger to get them off. I will never wipe them.
I have yet to get a scratch on my screen with the above methods.
never had a screen protector, no scratches. my phone is as flawless as when i first took it out of the box in early Nov.
No scratches on my N5, N4, N7, Xoom etc... is it because I don't put it in the same pocket as my keys and change? That's kind of like, common knowledge...
For all the people saying that a tiny piece of sand can scratch the screen, you're completely right, but some of us on here are comparing it to previous phones that we've owned that haven't scratched in the same environment.
I'm not really complaining too much because I stick my phone with everything else in my pocket (keys, cards, anything else really) and it's still in pretty great condition. (I've had it since it came out)

Surprised by the antiglare screen...

When I first got my new LG G R I thought that the screen had a plastic coating on it since it was quite dull as you would see if using an antiglare screen protector on your phone. Tried to remove the film but there was nothing there. So I guess the permanent screen is antiglare?
Odd choice. While I guess this makes sense for broad daylight, it takes away some of the visual beauty of the screen. As far as I know, no other smartwatch has gone this root. Am I missing something here? There doesn't seem to be a plastic film on the screen as far as I can tell. So the plastic OLED screen itself is exposed with no protective glass at all? For this price I find that really surprising. Seems like this could get easily scratched and finger oils smudge it badly.
Thanks.
P.S., Obviously a tempered glass screen protector would solve this problem on a number of levels.
The dull sort of antiglare effect is noticable mostly in bright sunlight. Indoors the screen seems nice and bright although I still think I'll be getting a tempered glass screen protector.
mitchellvii said:
I still think I'll be getting a tempered glass screen protector.
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Have you found any tempered glass for LGR ? I have been searching on eBay but haven't found any
fredriks said:
Have you found any tempered glass for LGR ? I have been searching on eBay but haven't found any
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Sadly no. In the meantime I just ordered this one which looks good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NH6CQPQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Sadly no. In the meantime I just ordered this one which looks good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NH6CQPQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Is this plastic ? I ordered a plastic one on eBay in my waiting for a tempered glass
mitchellvii said:
Am I missing something here? There doesn't seem to be a plastic film on the screen as far as I can tell. So the plastic OLED screen itself is exposed with no protective glass at all?
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There is no anti-glare "film" .. it is just low-glare material.
What you see and touch is not the OLED film .. that one is very very VERY thin and it's placed on a substrate made out of Plastic (SUB-strate means under). What you see and touch it's a material (hard plastic or glass, I have no idea) that is fused with the OLED (using some gel bond material, similar with the one used in cell phones displays).
More than that, the OLED itself has very very low reflectance (a great characteristic of OLED as a technology) => the great low-glare effect.
Good post. Thanks. Im getting screen protector which should make the screen appear a little more vibrant.

Recommended screen protectors, and also - tempered glass?

Hi everyone,
I'm planning on purchasing the Nexus 5X in a few days, just need to find the right accessories for it (cables, cases, screen protectors).
I was wondering if anyone can recommend a screen protector that has a cutout for the proximity sensor.
Also, I seriously only found out today there is such a thing as tempered glass. After researching a bit, I learned of it's pros (actually protects your screen if the phone falls) and it's cons (can crack easily for no reason ,poses somewhat of a health risk if breaks).
Pros: http://temperedglassscreenprotector.org/
Cons: http://www.clear-coat.com/blog/why-we-dont-sell-tempered-glass-screen-protectors/
Strangely, all the screen protectors I find on Amazon are tempered glass.
So, which one should I buy (tempered or plastic), and can you recommend a specific screen protector?
I wouldn't say they crack easily, but that'll depend on a bunch of variables. All I can say is it looks good and feels much nicer than the PET/non tempered glass screen protectors. Spigen is a good brand to go with.
Read the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3214188
I recommend the skinomi screen protector, it's not glass. It's the kind that feels like rubber and applied via water. I love these.
How you apply it with water? They can get to te mic's, no? You have safe way to do that?
Hi, Im very pleased with Nexus 5X Screen Protector, SpigenĀ® [Crystal] Full HD, I used to have it on my Nexus 5 and I was so satisfied that I bought it again for my N5x. Feels like glass, perfecly cutted you have 3x screen protector included, dust removal and positionning tool to hlelp perfect use. At least two times saved my screen on my old nexus 5. And almost nobody noticed that Im using a screen protector....
I've played around with a few screen protectors over the years, including some tempered glass ones. I can show you some reviews I've written, if you're interested.
Most of the cheap glass options are /not/ multicoated. What that means is, while they might be very difficult to scratch, they will cause some reflections, way more than the bare screen. Also, one of the coatings applied in modern multicoating is an oleophobic coating. That means a layer which helps the glass reject oils, including the skin oils on your fingertips. So applying a glass screen protector usually means you'll have to clean your screen way more often, and also that it will be considerably more difficult to actually clean the screen.
If you're dead-set on a screen protector, I highly recommend you find yourself a multicoated option. These will be no less than $20 even on sale. They can be $30+ normally.
Personally, I trust Corning Gorilla Glass 3 as sufficient in this generation. You might get a scratch or two over a few year span, but, virtually everything your phone will meet won't be hard enough to damage the glass.
Pandages said:
I've played around with a few screen protectors over the years, including some tempered glass ones. I can show you some reviews I've written, if you're interested.
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I would love to.
Pandages said:
Most of the cheap glass options are /not/ multicoated. What that means is, while they might be very difficult to scratch, they will cause some reflections, way more than the bare screen. Also, one of the coatings applied in modern multicoating is an oleophobic coating. That means a layer which helps the glass reject oils, including the skin oils on your fingertips. So applying a glass screen protector usually means you'll have to clean your screen way more often, and also that it will be considerably more difficult to actually clean the screen.
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I don't really understand, you're talking about tempered glass screen protectors?
Pandages said:
If you're dead-set on a screen protector, I highly recommend you find yourself a multicoated option. These will be no less than $20 even on sale. They can be $30+ normally.
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Can you give me some examples? Are the products recommended to me here (like the Spigen) multicoated?
elyashiv1994 said:
How you apply it with water? They can get to te mic's, no? You have safe way to do that?
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You apply a thin layer them squeeze out the excess. It's incredibly easy to retry if you set it wrong the first time. You can push the water away from the mic and speaker and use a cloth to dab up any excess water.
buru898 said:
You apply a thin layer them squeeze out the excess. It's incredibly easy to retry if you set it wrong the first time. You can push the water away from the mic and speaker and use a cloth to dab up any excess water.
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There is something that I can put in the mic to seal it? I don't want to take risk(especially when you have holes in top and bottom)
glass screen protector http://dx-box.com/nillkin-amazing-h-pro-anti-explosion-tempered-glass-screen-protector.html
I've been using glass screen protectors since May 2014. I swear by them. They don't crack easily like Clear Coat claims. I've only had to replace them twice. Once because an edge got pulled up months later so there was a air gap on one side. The second time, it actually did crack but that was after falls with a TPU case on. As many others have stated, with tempered glass screen protectors, that will crack before the actual glass of the screen does. And good ones don't shatter into little pieces like Clear Coat says. On the two replacements, I broke them fully and the pieces stay together. Also I really like the glass feel. Not sure how non-glass screen protectors feel though. Back when invisibleSHIELD was popular, that tacky feel wasn't nice.
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Jill McAuliffe said:
glass screen protector http://dx-box.com/nillkin-amazing-h-pro-anti-explosion-tempered-glass-screen-protector.html
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Thanks. Does it cover the proximity sensor?
Even though the image shows it is, some companies say that despite the image, their product does not cover the sensor.
EeZeEpEe said:
They don't crack easily like Clear Coat claims. ... And good ones don't shatter into little pieces like Clear Coat says.
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Yeah it was obvious Clear Coat exaggerated on purpose... Still, I wanted to check with people here what they think.
EeZeEpEe said:
As many others have stated, with tempered glass screen protectors, that will crack before the actual glass of the screen does.
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You mean, they will break before the screen glass when the phone falls?
A question for everyone... Is there a problem, with tempered glass of course, with seeing the screen outdoors when it's sunny, even in full brightness?
TheeWolf said:
Yeah it was obvious Clear Coat exaggerated on purpose... Still, I wanted to check with people here what they think.
You mean, they will break before the screen glass when the phone falls?
A question for everyone... Is there a problem, with tempered glass of course, with seeing the screen outdoors when it's sunny, even in full brightness?
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Exactly. I think of it similar to a crumple zone in a car. It will absorb some of the force before the phone's glass does. Now of course, with a great amount of force like dropping it from 10 feet or throwing it, I'm sure both the screen protector and the phone's glass would break. Regular accidental drops should work out the way I described.
As for outdoor visibility, there's no noticeable decrease in brightness or increase in glare. All of the manufactures usually advertise something like 99.9% transparency.
Here's an interesting tempered glass screen protector review. Cued up exactly on the drop test to rocks and removal:
https://youtu.be/UnvC6EERMyI?t=2m21s
Keep in mind that plastic protects better than glass and plastic does not need to be replaced where as most drops will break a glass protector. It is made from a thin easily breakable material after all.
The reason to pay roughly 10x as much for glass is because it feels much nicer on your finger. Plastic can also cause rainbow like reflections and can be a bit harder to apply than one solid piece.
However glass costs a lot more upfront and in the long run to replace. A plastic protector is about $1 and if applied properly won't ever need to be replaced.
bblzd said:
Keep in mind that plastic protects better than glass and plastic does not need to be replaced where as most drops will break a glass protector. It is made from a thin easily breakable material after all.
The reason to pay roughly 10x as much for glass is because it feels much nicer on your finger. Plastic can also cause rainbow like reflections and can be a bit harder to apply than one solid piece.
However glass costs a lot more upfront and in the long run to replace. A plastic protector is about $1 and if applied properly won't ever need to be replaced.
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Yes plastic ones don't break break or need to be replaced but I don't think they provide the same impact protection in absorbing drops. You'll probably have a screen broken under the intact plastic screen protector.
EeZeEpEe said:
Yes plastic ones don't break break or need to be replaced but I don't think they provide the same impact protection in absorbing drops. You'll probably have a screen broken under the intact plastic screen protector.
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I have no background on the subject but just thinking about it logically, I don't think glass can be as protective as plastic.
For instance RhinoShield only offers plastic screen protectors. Their test videos show how easily GG would break from certain impacts and how much plastic protects it. Even the best tempered glass can only hope to be as strong as GG.
My basic understanding of the situation is glass protectors work because it breaks and saves the screen underneath, where as plastic works by actually strengthening the glass itself.
However for each time the glass protector breaks and needs to be replaced, the plastic would keep on trucking.
I think the misunderstanding arises when a user drops their phone with a glass protector and it breaks thus "saving" their screen. But what if they had plastic? Would the screen of broken then? What if they had no protector? We can't say for sure what the results would have been. However to the user that is a clear indication of the glass protector working, where as I would say that's only a clear indication of the glass protector breaking easily.
bblzd said:
However to the user that is a clear indication of the glass protector working, where as I would say that's only a clear indication of the glass protector breaking easily.
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Right. That's how I see it as a user. Also, the clarity, feel, and scratch resistance can't be matched by plastic.
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I've actually dropped my 5x naked just once so far and got lucky without any cracks, but I do believe if I had a glass SP it would've broken. In the end I think it's luck and a good case that will protect from a bad drop as the screen protector is mainly for scratch protection. I've kept my glass SP as a backup in case the factory oleophobic coating stops working as effectively.
Here.
IQ Shield LiQuidSkin - Huawei Nexus 6P Screen Protector (2015) & Warranty Replacements - HD Ultra Clear Film - Protective Guard - Extremely Smooth / Self-Healing / Bubble-Free Shield
They also have glass. Check em both.
http://www.amazon.com/B016CKR3QA/dp...055&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6p+screen+protector

Tempered glass + LOCA?

Getting tired of these crappy screen protectors. The glass ones only have some OCA tape on the corners which is problematic when water touches it. It also leaves air between glass and screen meaning touch sensitivity is impaired. I have one of these screen protectors and I have removed the tape. Is there a problem using LOCA to bond the screen protector to the screen? This is supposed to be a semi permanent installation. Right now the only problem I see is the adhesive pooling around the home button.
Isn't LOCA permanent though?
I would like to know what silicone glue the stock screen uses.
autonomousperson said:
Getting tired of these crappy screen protectors. The glass ones only have some OCA tape on the corners which is problematic when water touches it. It also leaves air between glass and screen meaning touch sensitivity is impaired. I have one of these screen protectors and I have removed the tape. Is there a problem using LOCA to bond the screen protector to the screen? This is supposed to be a semi permanent installation. Right now the only problem I see is the adhesive pooling around the home button.
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Not a good idea. I just use plastic. Yes it feels like crap but doesn't suffer from touch issues.
Chris_c81 said:
Isn't LOCA permanent though?
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For the most part yes.
markstibbyspot said:
I would like to know what silicone glue the stock screen uses.
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There is no glue between the LCD and Glass on the S7 or S7e.
Chris_c81 said:
Isn't LOCA permanent though?
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Yeah LOCA glue is permanent but can be removed with fairly easily with solvents.
@Illogi.xbone You have any suggestions on good plastic screen protectors? I just want a buffer in case I drop the device glass first. With plastic, the screen would still shatter. Plastic screen protectors are also less of a fingerprint magnet. I always carry sharp objects and the plastic protectors keep getting cut up.
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Yeah LOCA glue is permanent but can be removed with fairly easily with solvents.
@Illogi.xbone You have any suggestions on good plastic screen protectors? I just want a buffer in case I drop the device glass first. With plastic, the screen would still shatter. Plastic screen protectors are also less of a fingerprint magnet. I always carry sharp objects and the plastic protectors keep getting cut up.
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I tend to keep my phone in a separate pocket to anything else. I don't see loca working well but you can always give it a go. Plastic will always get cut and yes, the screen can/will shatter (same with tempered glass) but I prefer the coverage that they provide and resistance to fingerprint smudges. I have used Skinomi in the past, don't like their matte ones though.
Geez, if it has come to this point just use the screen as it was intended.
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Which would probably damage your screen.
Still suspicious about the LOCA

Is it really scrach resistant?

I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
You should watch JerryRigEverythings review of the Oneplus 3/3t here, as he says in the clip, our phone has gorilla glas 4 and scratches at level 6 and deeper scratches at level 7.
https://youtu.be/8PZ8W_g6Vvk
I've never used screen protector on mine. Only irritating thing is that it's quite prone to getting smudged by skin fat, that means the oleophobic coating of the screen surface could be better, maybe the only reason that I would put a screen protector on my 3t.
The screen protector definitely makes a big difference in durability and scratch-resistance, but after time with a case it kinda messes up the protector. I like using my phone without one.
The screen can get scratched.
ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
This screen is definitely not scratch resistant. 4 months of usage and I've got one nice scratch down the middle and some superficial scratches towards the top corners. Phone has never been in a case, just keep it in a leather holster
Whether the glass is classified as "scratch resistant" is a semantic and marketing distinction. To answer "yes" or "no" to this (whether it is "really" scratch resistant) doesn't mean much of anything. Gorilla Glass is meant to resist some scratches. But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched (and far from it). And that doesn't account for oleophobic coating applied to it, which can also scratch.
For every person who says they never have gotten a scratch, you will find another person that scratched theirs in days/weeks. My other (work) phone is an iPhone (also Gorilla Glass). I'm admittedly not too gentle with it, and it got a big gouge on the screen the first week or so after I received it.
Whether to use a screen protector or not, comes down to a personal choice. Many folks don't like the feel or hassle of a protector. But if you don't use one, you will have to live with the potential of at least superficial scuffs, or even deeper scratches.
OcazPrime said:
ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
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Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
Isus <3 said:
Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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Walmart makes some strong keys then.
OcazPrime said:
Walmart makes some strong keys then.
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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It's not a big deal really. Theyre so unnoticeable i have to actually seek them out to see them.
protocol717 said:
I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
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No,i suggest you to use a screen protector.
protocol717 said:
I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life, but still it cannot stand the IMPACT force when it drop to the ground, so get a TEMPERED GLASS Screen protector. If u still feel sick of using it, then spend some bucks to buy RhinoShield CrashGuard along with some DBrand skins ? !
Got to look 'SiCk' after that ?
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Isus <3 said:
Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
Isus <3 said:
I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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It may be why folks are seeing superficial scuffs on the screen.
I've definitely seen oleophobic (or some other type of coating) get scratched on other devices. On my old HTC M8, it was reported by many users (myself included) that the coating on the back camera was getting scratched and peeling to the point that it clouded the photos. Removing the coating (various methods, most used alcohol, toothpaste, or some other mild solvent or abrasive) and the glass underneath was just fine (no scratches). This is probably a "worst case" example where the coating was particularly low quality. And just the camera glass, not the screen. But an example, nonetheless.
protocol717 said:
I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
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I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
OmJo93 said:
I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
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There is no anti-scratch phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
Midomad said:
There is no scratch proof phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
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Yeah, I got a bit overconfident after watching JerryRigEverythings videos and took it off. A few months later I'm ordering a pack of screen protectors off Amazon and looking at maybe replacing the screen.
I still hope they are just in the oleophobic coating but doesn't seem likely. At least for the second one. And it's not really worth the risk of removing the coating to find out.
The 3T screen is pretty soft. I've owned this phone twice ([emoji38]), and both times just sliding in my pocket has created small scratches. The small scratches that you can only see, if you angle the phone in light, not a biggie, but if you have OCD..it will bug the heck out of you. Also if you ever sell, just know most OnePlus 3T screens will trend towards "good" vs mint.
Isus <3 said:
I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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The hair thin scratches are usually in oleophobic coating and not in glass, so yeah it's definitely visible.

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