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I already overclock and undervolt my Galaxy S running Darky 8.1 with SUpero Optimize Kernel 4_6_8. But I'm not sure that this clock frequency will be safe for my device.
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
LukeSP said:
I already overclock and undervolt my Galaxy S running Darky 8.1 with SUpero Optimize Kernel 4_6_8. But I'm not sure that this clock frequency will be safe for my device.
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Its up to you. I have it OC. Firstly, Overclocking doesnt mean that the processor is going to run at 1.2Ghz all the time. On the contrary, you can govern the speed of your processor and it runs to 1.2Ghz only when it needs to. For example, after using Voltage tool, use SetCpu and there you can set the mode to conservative or on-demand. Go to Info tab and there you can see for how long certain frequency/CPU speed was used and you will see different values are used, not just 1.2Ghz.
As for the safety part, Putting a custom ROM, Rooting etc is already the way your phone is not supposed to be used, risking the life and warranty.
So, it depends how you look at it. I recommend it.
Essence is its up to you and your choice to take the risk involved .
jje
Charlie Wax said:
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
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theres a reason you can overclock a cpu alot more than stock, fans, coolants etc.
a computer chip needs to work whether its in the hottest climate and the coldest and thats why youve got scope to overclock the ass of the cpu if you got the fans , pipes, water blah blah blah
so the cpu overclock and the phone overclock are totaly different
regards
thebazman said:
theres a reason you can overclock a cpu alot more than stock, fans, coolants etc.
a computer chip needs to work whether its in the hottest climate and the coldest and thats why youve got scope to overclock the ass of the cpu if you got the fans , pipes, water blah blah blah
so the cpu overclock and the phone overclock are totaly different
regards
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So would you be so kind to explain us the differences between those two things...
From my point of view...it is the same thing, the CPU will not always work at full load, as darky once said there is no need for overclocking or dual-core cpu on mobile phones.
The problem is not in the hardware, it's inside the software.
K to the question.
It is relative "safe" if you know how to do it, but not much point of doing it.
I used to have it Overclocked but saw only the slightest difference.
I think you better off with what you are on mate.
Unless you are bored want to try it out
Charlie Wax said:
So would you be so kind to explain us the differences between those two things...
From my point of view...it is the same thing, the CPU will not always work at full load, as darky once said there is no need for overclocking or dual-core cpu on mobile phones.
The problem is not in the hardware, it's inside the software.
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if you say theres no difference then fine. ive just explained why you can overclock a pc cpu.
a mobile phone processor and its cooling system is different dont you think?
well if someone says dont overclock your pc cause theres no need, would you follow that instruction ?
regards
btw im not saying your better of overclocking or not, its up to the individual to research or read im just pointing out theres a big difference from pc cpu and phone cpu
It depends...on my primary usage of PC.
I'm a photographer, so i need lot of CPU and RAM power, but according to that i have adequate cooling system.
But my point is overclocking is always the same thing, raising your voltage and CPU speed. Mobile phone actually doesn't need OC, the usage of CPU is written inside the program, application, software...you name it.
I agree with you that cooling is different, but c'mon mate, do u really see that big difference.
Charlie Wax said:
It depends...on my primary usage of PC.
I'm a photographer, so i need lot of CPU and RAM power, but according to that i have adequate cooling system.
But my point is overclocking is always the same thing, raising your voltage and CPU speed. Mobile phone actually doesn't need OC, the usage of CPU is written inside the program, application, software...you name it.
I agree with you that cooling is different, but c'mon mate, do u really see that big difference.
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you keep talking as if iv said ive overclocked my phone , i havnt
i just gave a pov on the differences thats all
regards
I overclocked my SGS to 1.2GHz because of Dungeon Defenders. It was unplayable with many creatures and players. After OC, the difference is huge. No problems with overheating or freezing.
How to OC SGS on Darky's ROM 9.1 with SO Kernel?
Is there any tutorial? Anybody can explain me how to OC to 1.2Ghz?
You can use Galaxy tuner app from market
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Overclocking always has risks, except on platforms designed to accommodate it. Don't overclock your phone if you rely on it for everyday use.
I have my phone at 1.3ghz for everyday use. No lagfix, its buttery smooth! I'll never go back.
I don't think its safe
Searching Google for other peoples opinion on this. I have over clocked at times and the difference is small unless you are looking at benchmarks.
I think what people don't realize is that each cpu has an average life span at its given clock speed. When you over clock i can say 100% for certain you are decreasing its life.
The decrease may be so small that the phone is going to be outdated before it dies or it could be great enough that one day in 3 months time your phone just dies and there is not really any way of knowing for sure.
So id say if you are going to over clock just be aware of that as a lot of people seam to think as long as you use profiles and don't let it get over a certain temp its doing no damage =P
martan1981 said:
I overclocked my SGS to 1.2GHz because of Dungeon Defenders. It was unplayable with many creatures and players. After OC, the difference is huge. No problems with overheating or freezing.
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strange. I have played DD1 & DD2, with standard 1GHz without any problems.
I'm on insanity cm with glitch kernel, @1.4Ghz for everyday use, very smooth, web pages load in a flash, the time it spends at that frequency is tiny, if I was gaming a guide amount I would probably go down to 1.2Ghz to be safe as it would probably warm up a bit, but I monitor everything carefully, time in state, temp, etc........to me it is worth it, but of course there is a risk, but my contract is 2 years, so phone only has to last that, and if it does fry, how are samsung going to know? They will just replace motherboard, and in any event I'm kind of old fashioned, I take responsibility for my mistakes! Do it and enjoy, or don't and forever wonder!
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Charlie Wax said:
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
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yeah i agree,i don c the sense of oc,if u c the current market there r phones wiv 1.5ghz,3d chips an all those high fiv hardware.even a 2ghz dual-core is abt to come.the company has given sgs 1ghz ,but neva said its cool to oc it...i had tried oc once but frankly i dint notice any diff..but its as per personnel wish ,if u wanna oc then its right for u....
Its totally safe as long as you don't be ridiculous about it....I.e most people make kernels capable of oc to 1.7ghz but that's just stupid because you'll fry your processor, I'd say Max....1.5ghz.....oh and btw it eats your battery so I suppose theirs good and bad sides to it
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Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
Thanks
Narwhal73 said:
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
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Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
i'm pretty comfortable with 825 or 844 mhz
It's pretty good with 614 MHz lol
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Running smooth even on 614 Mhz.
Moderate usage.
King Android said:
Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
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Right now I am just using the stock one. I personally wouldn't change my battery to anything other than stock, but people have reported that 1500mAh or 1600mAh work well. I wouldn't use anything that has a higher capacity than that though. Also, if it's very inexpensive it's probably not real.
Clocking actually goes on the rom. I've seen people having OC over 1gHz & still stable with the mad kernel but I gave up clocking as I didn't see much of a difference & also underclocking started giving me FCs on some heavy apps while it was all fair in the unclocked state. And again, there's no such thing as a best frequency. You find your own values. What works well for him might mess up your phone rebooting all by itself. Stock batteries are always fine & they also keep you under warranty. Anyone ever wondered why the phone manufacturers didn't implement clocking as a part of it ? Stability is the word. I've seen here, I've seen there. East or west, stock is the best ! Try keeping as close to stock as possible, just to have that extra touch of safety & stability
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Hello all.
I was reading this thread and became interested in overclocking. In my case my device is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830L (labeled as GT-S5830 by CyanogenMod)
CyanogenMod-7.2.0-cooper stable (Android version 2.3.7)
Kernel 2.6.35.7-perf-CL882825 ([email protected] #21)
I was checking in CM settings -> Performance -> CPU settings that I could adjust min and max clockspeed, but in max frequency the maximum one is the same processor's speed, 800 MHz. So my kernel doesn't support overclocking.
After a search in the forums I found there are plenty of custom kernels for this legacy device. But I'm relatively new to the kernel world, so I wanted to ask you for advise. What custom kernel could I try for my device for overclocking? Or King Android, what custom kernel are you using?
It'd the first time I do the overclocking stuff, I'd like to try it to see if some higher quality mp4 videos (which are run by MX Player only in software acceleration) can run better, as well as some games and emulators.
I'm also kind of a noob as you can see. If you want to troll/scold me...
Thank you all.
ctcx said:
Hello all.
I was reading this thread and [...]
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Hi you can try FireKernel or BlackHawk kernel. Use the search function to find them easily. Both supports Overclocking and are made for CM7. [MAKE SURE THEY SUPPORT YOUR S5830L]
At the moment I'm with Democracy ROM which is based on unofficial CM7 and I don't really feel the need of overclocking. It is all smooth with firekernel at
Min 245
Max 806
Governor smartassv2
Sent from my... oh wait, who cares?
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
You can set it to whatever your phone can handle. Mine can't go past 844Mhz otherwise apps start force closing and such. If your phone is completely stable at 883Mhz then you're good.
As for the battery, no. It's a fake. Buy a 1500mAh like I did. Works like a charm and it brought 3. Lasts a little longer and it's really amazing. Had it for a while now. Still have one in the pack, only been using 2 when I don't get to charge my phone. Really handy.
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ctcx said:
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
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OCing helps the phone over all. But remember, without much free ram, OC won't really change much. You need a balance of ram and CPU. Like me, I use swap and OC to 844Mhz. Even if it's a low OC, it's still better than nothing.
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L with CM 7.2. Would OC work for me? Up to what frequency?
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM? Is your device really an Ace?
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
Any help?
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1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L...
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM...
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
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1.- Every Ace is diferent..some Ace's can go up to 960 Mhz while other just 844 Mhz, the thing is: try it yourself overclocking in small jumps. Swap is a small amount of memory of your SD card, that Android use it like if where RAM, but decreases SD card life...
2.- Some Kernel came Built in on Some particullary ROM's but generally cames on a CWM Flashable zip; FireKernel & BlackHawk are specially for CM7; In my opinion FireKernel is the best... And there are others like Battery Extender Kernel or NimsKernel but these Kernel are only for Stock ROM's...
I hope you find useful my info...
Thank you, Blake2893.
Then there's just 2 doubts left, if you don't mind.
There's a fair number of custom CM7.2 roms with FireKernel in the developer forum. Is there one you or someone else could say is the best in terms of stability and least number of bugs? Or is that something I should test myself in the S5830L?
The Ace S5830/S5830L has 278 Mb total RAM by default. If I understand well, you're implying I could modify SWAP partition in order to increase RAM and, probably if lucky, with this make OC work better. How can I do that? Do I also need a custom kernel/rom for that?
The best stable Roms so far are the stock GingerBread based ones... but if you aks me about CM7 there a few like Apocalypse rom(ICS styled ROM) with the FireKernel that suports swap I think...
and for Swap you only need a Kernel with Swap enabled and a SWAP Partition on your Sd card...
lets see im fine and stable with 979 mhz without reboot for 9 hours
overclock is depend on your hardware
best over clock freq.
King Android said:
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
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The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
Cyb3rVect0r said:
The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
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Using CPU high frequencies is not recommended, your device's life will be reduced considerably
i am just asking is there is anyone planning to make an overclocked kernel for custom 4.4 roms ? or 4.3 stock rom ?
A custom kernel requires lots of time and skill. Dont expect this fairly old device to actually get one.
After all, the only thing you appear to be looking for is a higher cpu clock, so just ask for an overclockable kernel without any additional features.
Such a project can be a matter of just half an hour, if done by an experienced kernel dev.
that what need i just need overclock so bad till i get the z3
iSpammer said:
that what need i just need overclock so bad till i get the z3
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Why do you need it? Believe me, there is hardly a difference exept your phone being too hot much too often.
i can use an game pad and putting the phone under ice water
also ipad almost everything is paid ._. and i do not have visa card :s
It appears we don't have much options about this phone
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If you need overclocking, all day game play, constant facebook updates and viewing long bollywood movies on this phone, I'm afraid it's not the right device for you. May be it is time considering one of this big chinese phones with 6 or 7 inch screen, the type that you need to always have 5000 mAh charger connected.
Instead of overclocking you can use Seeder App
Believe me, it really works
im considering buying an used z3 compact but overheating pops out here and there on several videos or forums that i read about the phone, my question is is there any rom or kernel that provides underclocking while mantaining the phones performance ?
Cyanogenmod is pretty good for this.
However it is only a nightly - but from my experience they are very stable.
Getting a Kernel like M5 Kernel would also help with under clocking but keeping a relatively stable device
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is there any rom or kernel that provides underclocking while mantaining the phones performance ?
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You shouldn't believe everything you read. I've had a Z3c for 6 months now and it's never got hot. All the stock roms come with a temperature throttle that prevents overheating. Sure, if you sit and play games for hours and hours I'm sure you'll feel it warming up, as with all phones. The only time I've felt the phone getting warm is when I use a 'quick charger'.
Unlocking the bootloader to be able to use a CM build is going to damage the quality of the camera and disable some of the other functions of the phone, just so that you are aware.
Didgesteve said:
You shouldn't believe everything you read. I've had a Z3c for 6 months now and it's never got hot. All the stock roms come with a temperature throttle that prevents overheating. Sure, if you sit and play games for hours and hours I'm sure you'll feel it warming up, as with all phones. The only time I've felt the phone getting warm is when I use a 'quick charger'.
Unlocking the bootloader to be able to use a CM build is going to damage the quality of the camera and disable some of the other functions of the phone, just so that you are aware.
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Once you get the Z3 Compact, install a custom kernel to give you better control options over your phone's hardware. For example you can use better hotplugs and thermal drivers to regulate the phone's frequencies better. Underclocking and using a Battery-saving CPU Governor also helps when you don't really need the power boost. I personally remain at 1.9Ghz with only 2 Cores active at any given time
*Unlocked bootloader is required to use custom kernels, backup your DRM keys before doing so. Also you can restore lost camera function easily, just check the Android Development section
Hello, it´s me. I was wondering if there´s any way to overclock my old Xperia E1. Is there?
I don't think so. There's no kernel for Xperia E1 which supports overclocking and I don't think that it will ever have...
E1 always had heat issues, but If you want to overclock it, oh boy, god save that phone from dead
It would be better if the GPU could be overclocked, and not the CPU