i have the moto x4 android one , is there any way that i can convert it to retail version , also what is advantage android one over the retail one ?
droid_ulti said:
i have the moto x4 android one , is there any way that i can convert it to retail version , also what is advantage android one over the retail one ?
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Just flash the retail ROM.
Android One is a lighter rom, almost pure Android, the retail have some features added, like one touch navigation, and the possibility to connect more than one sound speaker through Bluetooth.
There's no real advantage, it's more about personal preference. You'll have to unlock bootloader, flash it.
Neffy27 said:
There's no real advantage, it's more about personal preference. You'll have to unlock bootloader, flash it.
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I just unlocked the boot manager and I see the warning of this but first the original logo and then that and I have to press the power button to start, know how to remove that?
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Okay I am wanting get a Moto X soon with my contact expiring, and I am in to custom ROMs, rooting etc, but when I search the Moto X there's information i'm confused on.
First can non developer editions be unlocked? I am with Alltel atm which is a CDMA carrier who have the regular Moto X, can that be unlocked?
They are being slowly taken over and transitioned to GSM by AT&T, I like the idea of the Moto X but if I can't both root it and unlock the boot loader I am going to skip it.
I don't have the kind of money to buy the developer edition just to use it on my current carrier.
Thank you in advanced!
The moto x DE isn't much more than the regular one. What carrier? Verizon and at&t can't be unlocked. Or rooted if they come with 4.4.2.
Honestly, if your into flashing And whatnot....you want the N5. No question.
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.
If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
kj2112 said:
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.
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Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.
eksasol said:
If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.
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The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
FreakyFreakGA said:
The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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Yes, but I heard with ATT and Verizon not yet for ver 4.4.2, I could be wrong. But as long as you buy unlocked version getting bootloader unlocked is very easy.
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FreakyFreakGA said:
The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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At the moment, if you're already on 4.4.2 with a Verizon or at&t retail phone....there's no way to root.
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
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I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
johnny grep said:
Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
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I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
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I have a brazilian version, also model XT1097 from carrier Vivo and I was able to unlock the bootloader and root it normally. Would like to know the difference between the XT1095 and XT1097 though.
Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
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I have XT1093 (US Cellular). The Pure Edition root method works for all variants with unlockable bootloaders. The key is to follow the directions completely. As it only BOOTS the system image rather than INSTALLS the image, it works fine. Boots the image once, installs SU to your system, then reboots to your system.
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?
oxxshadow said:
hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?
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Only the 16GB
I thought I was getting a Pure Edition when I bought the unlocked version from Motorola's mexican website, but I got the xt1097... if this is possible that would be great as I believe the pure edition will get updates faster
Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.
plasticdarlow said:
Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.
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I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Methodikull said:
I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.
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Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.
I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
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Methodikull said:
I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
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not exactly sure how
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UPDATE:
I flashed the modem from the multitool and I have Data again.
338lm said:
Official factory image is now available from Motorola! https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Give it a try now!
It was asking you for unlocking cuz Att modem is sim locked.
So did you manage to successfully convert to 1095? I'd like to try, but I'm a bit worried about the modem issues, I'd need a sim unlocked modem i can use with Brazilian operators.
I'm a noob in moto x developing, so I'm already reading what multitool is and how-to's.
Moto X (2nd Gen) XT-1097
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012) N-8000
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plasticdarlow said:
Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.
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Any luck getting your phone working? You have an XT1097 right?
Hey guys,
Telus XT1097 user here.
Trying to flash back to stock so I can get some lollipop action.
Which factory image should I be installing here ? I don't think our phones are dev editions / pure editions...
Thanks !
Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.
I have a 1097, but i haven't done anything yet, i don't wanna mess up my brand new phone LOL
i'm reading about the changes to 1095 and mostly the modem issue.
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Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.
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I wonder if that only works on some XT1097 phones, I got a "Permission Denied" error when I tried it on mine.
Hi, first let me say that i did search and didn't find the right answer. I just wanna know if is possible to flash the stock rom of the Pure Edition Moto X on the Verizon Moto X, if yes, how, if no, what's the best method to clean up the stock verizon rom . Thank you.
First off, I'm going to say no. The Pure ROM would be set up for a GSM phone. Also what would be the benefit? I believe the only difference in Pure vs VZW is that the Pure can be unlocked. Secondly, when you say clean up, what do you mean?
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First off, I'm going to say no. The Pure ROM would be set up for a GSM phone. Also what would be the benefit? I believe the only difference in Pure vs VZW is that the Pure can be unlocked. Secondly, when you say clean up, what do you mean?
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He probably means debloat and remove all of the VZW nonsense that is installed.
Without root privileges you can only disable Verizon apps not remove them, sorry. And the odds of this phone ever getting rooted are pretty slim.
Hi guys,
Is there an option to flash Android One (Project Fi) to regular Moto x4?
Reef2009
Not now, but I really want it. Is very dificult to get a Moto X4 version Android One outside of USA... :crying:
No, but a guy in the custom roms thread was able to flash the retail Moto x4 ROM onto his Fi phone (as a last resort to recover his bricked device).
I really want this feature in moto... As I don't know the regular moto will get updates like Android one or not, as I know obviously the Android one get updates faster but the regular version will get same updates even if its late or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
Amanpreetsingh said:
or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
Amanpreetsingh said:
Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
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There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
DiDGR8 said:
There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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Yes you are right he is working hard for this device.
DiDGR8 said:
There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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can we follow this person somewhere on social? is he here on xda forum? can you share a link to some of his work? just asking..
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
kraatus90 said:
Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
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Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
it will be possible as soon as we get some working factory images from lenovo.. the phones aren't different at all
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pizza_pablo said:
Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
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ofc not but the phone works just fine with other carriers
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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cpt-harlock said:
Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
pizza_pablo said:
So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
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The retailer one comes out full of annoying bloatwares. Actually I don't care about Fi Project, I just want have the cleanest UI possibile with only the strictly necessary. Oh, there are the security patches and os updates aspects too.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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This reminds me of older non-nexus phones- we would have to grab the OTA and use tools to construct the stock rom in a form that was flashable/modifiable. In the pre-lollipop? times, the patches were file based, so it was much easier to modify just specific files. The OTAs are now block based, so they just modify the atomic blocks that need changing, so you need an exact copy of the file system in order to apply the OTA.
Any update or news on the bootloader unlockability and kernel source availability?
Motorola's site lists upto the Moto G6 Plus still.
the phone is not yet released atleast in India. I am planning to buy it though. And hoping to see good support
Kapil Tapsi said:
the phone is not yet released atleast in India. I am planning to buy it though. And hoping to see good support
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I got this link for an Android Dump of the device codenamed "chef_sprout" but the build.prop says its a Moto X4. LOL
Check it out here.
@greddy , please take a look also.
Unloicking bootloader
smyaknti said:
Any update or news on the bootloader unlockability and kernel source availability?
Motorola's site lists upto the Moto G6 Plus still.
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i don't think there will be unlocking with verification code like general moto phones. it will be probably be just going to fastboot mode,
then ' fastboot oem unlock', voila it's unlocked. android one phones have this very handy feature. i hope really good custom rom devs buy this device since motorola hasn't been that popular in the xda community these days. hope this one makes it better
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i don't think there will be unlocking with verification code like general moto phones. it will be probably be just going to fastboot mode,
then ' fastboot oem unlock', voila it's unlocked. android one phones have this very handy feature. i hope really good custom rom devs buy this device since motorola hasn't been that popular in the xda community these days. hope this one makes it better
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Then why cannot the nokia phones be unlocked via that method? All the phones they launch in India are android one devices
smyaknti said:
Then why cannot the nokia phones be unlocked via that method? All the phones they launch in India are android one devices
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Motorola has always been developer friendly. we'll probably have kernel source files in less than two weeks. they suck at updates but bootloader unlocking has certainly been easier on moto devices. In terms of nokia android one devices, it was nokia who made that choice. i said what i said because i was talking about a moto android one device not android one device per se .
asgarali4568 said:
Motorola has always been developer friendly. we'll probably have kernel source files in less than two weeks. they suck at updates but bootloader unlocking has certainly been easier on moto devices. In terms of nokia android one devices, it was nokia who made that choice. i said what i said because i was talking about a moto android one device not android one device per se .
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Yeah, lets see. I didn't get to use the moto x4 android one device but the 'payton' device is i suspect the regular x4?
asgarali4568 said:
Motorola has always been developer friendly. we'll probably have kernel source files in less than two weeks. they suck at updates but bootloader unlocking has certainly been easier on moto devices. In terms of nokia android one devices, it was nokia who made that choice. i said what i said because i was talking about a moto android one device not android one device per se .
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This phone has got to have the slowest of development I've ever seen on a phone.
No custom roms or mod threads started yet.
oem lock
smyaknti said:
Then why cannot the nokia phones be unlocked via that method? All the phones they launch in India are android one devices
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flashing factory image it says unlock your device first
than i unlocked my moto one power
after that factory image flashed by suing flashall.bat all completed
in first boot it shows warning
then locked by "fastboot oem lock"
my device shows flashing_locked after that bootup warning "different operation system"
then how to completly lock OEM just like new mobile
any idea bro please help me