Just a couple questions. - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I have a WP8.1 phone that is locked that I want to pull an app from that is no longer available at the Windows Store (sadly it was even a free app). My intention is to move it to my Lumia 1020 that has been unlocked. Now, I know that I can move the application ( TextNow 2.2 in this case ) to the SD card, but the WPsystem folder will be encrypted if I try to view it from my pc. So my question are:
Can I view it from inside the phone with any applications left on the windows store?
I understand it's a protected system file area, and that one of the issues is it being marked as hidden and system causes a problem, but what if those attributes were removed from the folder, and the microSD card write protected, so the phone couldn't reapply them? Could I copy the files to the internal storage of the phone, remove the write protect, then copy them from the phone to SD card again to a unprotected folder? ( Done a little research on locking an SD card, but decided to hold off til I get more information from here, here is the link to that app though: github.com/BertoldVdb/sdtool I'm betting that most apps that would be capable of such a feat are gone from the store. I know there is Pocket File Manager, but it looks like the new version while it can see the GUID folders, it can't see any files in them, in which case it's kind of useless to buy the full version to try and copy files with, please correct me if I'm wrong on that.
What if I get another windows phone and interop unlock it? Are the decryption keys for that folder the same on every WindowsPhone or is it a unique key. If it's the same, could I put the SD card with the app I want into another phone to decrypt the data and move it from it's locked prison to a new folder?
My last option that I was wondering about is Dev Unlocking the phone with the app. However, I don't know if MS will still dev unlock phones, and if the phone will need to be formatted first in order to dev unlock it (defeats the whole point).

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Moving CoPilot GPS maps to sdcard1

Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
For me it worked fine without rooting the phone.
I have a samsung ace plus S7500
I made a copy of
/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/
to
/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/
then (with KIES), i changed the
user.cfg situated in /mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/
then i erased the
/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/
The adapted user.cfg would be changed like this
[Directories]
"AddonDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/addon/"
"AudioDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/audio/"
"GlobalAddonDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/addon"
"GPSDemoDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/gpstracks/demo"
"LRGlobalSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/save"
"LRGPSSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/gpstracks"
"LRInfoDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/info"
"LRSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/save/"
"RegionDir"="EU"
"RootDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/"
"SkinDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/skin/"
"SpeechDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/speech"
"ThemesDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/themes/"
"UIConfigDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/uiconfig/"
"UpdateDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/save/update"
[Directories]
"AddonDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/addon/"
"AudioDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/audio/"
"GlobalAddonDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/addon"
"GPSDemoDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/gpstracks/demo"
"LRGlobalSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/save"
"LRGPSSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/gpstracks"
"LRInfoDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/info"
"LRSaveDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/EU/save/"
"RegionDir"="EU"
"RootDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/"
"SkinDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/skin/"
"SpeechDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/speech"
"ThemesDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/themes/"
"UIConfigDir"="/mnt/sdcard/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/uiconfig/"
"UpdateDir"="/mnt/sdcard/external_sd/com.alk.copilot.eumarket.premiumeupan/save/update"
Then it finally works
dagoban said:
Hi guys,
so this topic came up quite a few times for other phones, however I cannot get it working on my Razr I.
And I am talking about the Live version (that is the newest version which comes with all countries in 1app), not the Premium or Lite one.
So I want to move the maps folder to the external sdcard....
Basically what I did is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42581577&postcount=2
But of course instead of /storage/extSdCard/ I used /storage/sdcard1/com.alk.copilot.mapviewer/
But after starting CoPilot Live it still overwrites the user.cfg file back to its normal settings (sdcard0)
Does anyone have a solution for that?
I also found out that there is a file called DeviceInfo.xml in the save folder that also has the sdcard0 included...
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dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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Outstanding! worked perfectly, thank you!
installing maps to SD card
dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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Dear Michael, your tutorial is fantastic, it is logical, clear and easy to follow, unfortunately the text of my “user.cfg” file is different, the text contained often the word “emulated” but there is nowhere the word “mapviewer “ I wonder if you could give me a push in the right direction. The device I am running is Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G900i) and the CoPilot version is 9.5.0.440 Europa and USA
Regards Erik
Hi Erik,
just look for the RootDir and SpeechDir tag in the config and change that from your internal card to your external card.
If you still need help, start at step 1 again and then copy the config file to your PC and upload its content to pastebin.com so I can have a look at it.
erikdeoude said:
Dear Michael, your tutorial is fantastic, it is logical, clear and easy to follow, unfortunately the text of my “user.cfg” file is different, the text contained often the word “emulated” but there is nowhere the word “mapviewer “ I wonder if you could give me a push in the right direction. The device I am running is Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G900i) and the CoPilot version is 9.5.0.440 Europa and USA
Regards Erik
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If you are on KitKat it could be a problem with writing your maps to external SDcard.
Moving CoPilot Map to SD card
dagoban said:
Hi Erik,
just look for the RootDir and SpeechDir tag in the config and change that from your internal card to your external card.
If you still need help, start at step 1 again and then copy the config file to your PC and upload its content to pastebin.com so I can have a look at it.
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Thanks for your help,it is obviously not possible to move the copilot maps, so I will search for another brand of GPS
dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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Thanks for the guide!
Do I need to repeat step 14 (copy folder) when / if the app gets updated?
dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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Hi Dagoban,
I followed your tutorial and it worked great. At least up to yesterday, where I updated CoPilot to version 9.6.0.634. Now the phone directory no longer says /storage/sdcard0 but /storage/emulated/0/.
Changing the Root and Speech directory (in my case to extSdCard) doesn't allow downloading of Maps on my SD card anymore.
Any thoughts or tips?
Thanks
Rob
Update: I have a Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505), running on Android 4.4.2 (Kitkat)
transfering large maps to extsd card
rdijkstra said:
Hi Dagoban,
I followed your tutorial and it worked great. At least up to yesterday, where I updated CoPilot to version 9.6.0.634. Now the phone directory no longer says /storage/sdcard0 but /storage/emulated/0/.
Changing the Root and Speech directory (in my case to extSdCard) doesn't allow downloading of Maps on my SD card anymore.
Any thoughts or tips?
Thanks
Rob
Update: I have a Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505), running on Android 4.4.2 (Kitkat)
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Hi Rob,
I had a similar problem with Galaxy S5 (SM-G900i), and rooting the phone did not help, after receiving just silly answers from ‘CoPilot Technical Support’ I purchased the application from ‘Sygic’ it cost a few Dollars more but for this you get annual several map updates and the service is excellent. The maps are slightly larger in size but the whole application can be transferred to external SD card (by cut and paste) for me it was an easy solution.
Cheers Erik
Seems to work, basically
dagoban said:
Update:
I made a tutorial how to get CoPilot save the maps on the external sd card.
For this method you don't need any root access so it should work for almost everyone.
Make sure you check check whether your sdcard path is /storage/sdcard0 or /mnt/sdcard
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I tried this on my Atrix HD with Cyanogen 10.2, and it seems to work. The Atrix uses an "emulated" sdcard0, so it had some issues, but I edited the user file & continued the install. When I ran copilot initially, it seemed to have some problems. I kept getting "Do you really want to quit" messages when I would try and move through menu options. I turned on GPS (which I had not done prior) and after a minute or so, I was able to browse the map, so maybe that was the issue. Now, when I fire up Copilot, it seems to behave. I tried an "goto" address in another state, and the route was correct, so I'm saying thanks very much for the process you developed. I really wish that ALK would just add this to their software.
KitKat “EACCES permission denied”
rdijkstra said:
Hi Dagoban,
I followed your tutorial and it worked great. At least up to yesterday, where I updated CoPilot to version 9.6.0.634. Now the phone directory no longer says /storage/sdcard0 but /storage/emulated/0/.
Changing the Root and Speech directory (in my case to extSdCard) doesn't allow downloading of Maps on my SD card anymore.
Any thoughts or tips?
Thanks
Rob
Update: I have a Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505), running on Android 4.4.2 (Kitkat)
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It seems that android 4.4.2 has limited access permission of the external SD card. Have a look at howto-avoid-the-eacces-permission-denied-on-sdcard-with-kitkat-4-4-2-version on stackoverflow (I can't post the link!).
I tried to change the folder permission via chmod but no lock. What is the workaround?
sesemin said:
It seems that android 4.4.2 has limited access permission of the external SD card. Have a look at howto-avoid-the-eacces-permission-denied-on-sdcard-with-kitkat-4-4-2-version on stackoverflow (I can't post the link!).
I tried to change the folder permission via chmod but no lock. What is the workaround?
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Michael previously published an instruction on how to move the maps to SD card, but his instruction does not work with the recent KitKat version of Android. People look for methods to root the device to obtain access to SD-cards. Still it is perfectly possible even with unrooted devices. Edit folder path for Rootdir and Speechdir so that it would point to a folder "Android/data/" at your SD card. For example, for Samsung Galaxy 5, it would be "storage/extSdCard/Android/data/...". Save the file user.cfg. If you have a different brand, your external SD card might be called differently, this is why copilot guys do not want to mess with external cards (shame on them, btw).
It worked for me with Kitkat. Have found somewhere that every application under Kitkat gets its own folder in Android/data with full writing rights. But the folder should be named strictly after the application name. If you copy the folder to any other place and adjust user.cfg accordingly, it might not work, since the application tries to write something into folders, too.
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Works on Low Storage KitKat
Shato said:
Michael previously published an instruction on how to move the maps to SD card, but his instruction does not work with the recent KitKat version of Android. People look for methods to root the device to obtain access to SD-cards. Still it is perfectly possible even with unrooted devices. Edit folder path for Rootdir and Speechdir so that it would point to a folder "Android/data/" at your SD card. For example, for Samsung Galaxy 5, it would be "storage/extSdCard/Android/data/...". Save the file user.cfg. If you have a different brand, your external SD card might be called differently, this is why copilot guys do not want to mess with external cards (shame on them, btw).
It worked for me with Kitkat. Have found somewhere that every application under Kitkat gets its own folder in Android/data with full writing rights. But the folder should be named strictly after the application name. If you copy the folder to any other place and adjust user.cfg accordingly, it might not work, since the application tries to write something into folders, too.
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That worked great, Shato. Thanks. It even worked on my phone which doesn't have enough free internal memory for the maps. I downloaded the maps on my tablet and copied the folder to the SD. Then I put the SD in the phone and applied the config change.
An update the developer should do - detect extsd during app install/update
Seems like a lot of trouble. With Sygic's app, all you have to do is move the folder, launch the app, and clean up whatever old filder remains on internal sd.
[*ttp://help.sygic.com/hc/en-us[/*
Haven't tried a Sygic app upgrade since I moved it, but added maps all go to extsd.. I have noticed one small issue. If I shut my device off, it rediscovers the extsd and remounts it, and it can take a whie to finish indexing it (2 minutes with my 32GB U-1 cl 10 card) and until it does, apps using fies from the extsd seem to hang. on launch I say seem to. If allowed to wait, they eventually open unless they err after loading some of their files, but aren't able to access all of them..
The work around is not to shut completely down, but sleep or suspend after putting the device in Airplane mode to minimise drain.
Yeah, I know this doesn.t solve the CoPilot\Kitkat issue, but I had to stop using CoPilot because I ran out of space on internal SD. I'm not going to deal with an app that requires massaging after every revision, and this one has enough bugs that it needs revisions, not just map updates. When I see an announcement that either Google lifts the extSD restrictions (in L I hope), or Copilot fixes its code, I'll use Sygics free version with all its limitations- disable its app from updating, and manually update the few state maps I use periodically.
I was learning to live with CoPilots quirks untilI I ran out of space. Syngic isn't as nice to use, and has its own quirks, but at least it doesn't have to fill my internal SD with maps of states to which I'll never go., and it's too pricy for me to buy the full version, so I lose turn by turn.
BTW, both apps suffer from many inaccuracies suburban and low pop density maps, but Syngic's are slightly better, in that adddresses are more often correctly located on the right side of roadways and nearer to the correct ends of irregularlyoshaped "blocks"..
I am running an LG Optimus L70 (D321) with kitKat 4.4.2
After just installing copilot, and stopping at the point it wants to install the maps, I see that copilot is scattered all over the place
It has files in /data/app-lib/
/data/data
/data/media/0/
/data/user/0/
/mnt/sdcard/
/mnt/shell/emulated/0/
/pkg/
/storage/emulated/0/
Several have the user.cfg file in them.
Which one do I edit? Which one do I move to my external SD card.
On my phone the external is /storage/external_SD/Android/
This was way easy in ICS
OK, got things moved around so my maps go to my EXTERNAL SD card.
On my LG Optimus L70 (D321 Cricket) running kitkat 4.4.2 the external sd card is located:
/storage/external_SD/Android/data/
you must point to the "ANDROID/DATA" or it will not work.
I did find one short issue, Copilot still looks at the INTERNAL SD CARD for the amount of available storage. It may balk if you try to download the entire USA, 1.77 GB or all of North America 1.87 GB. I had to DL it in sections and all worked fine.
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Install Manually APPs and Games on HTC 8x

How to install manually games and apps?i make folder sd card on usb storage,but cant see in store.Help pls.
aSpirit81 said:
How to install manually games and apps?i make folder sd card on usb storage,but cant see in store.Help pls.
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Did you download them from windowsphone.com? If so, restart the phone and they will appear in the store.
If they are unencrypted xaps, you can't install them from the SD but you need the Windows Phone SDK
i download from internet and in usb storage i make folder SD Card,restart phone,but nothing appear in store...
Go read the forum rules, then let us know if there's a good reason this thread shouldn't be locked by the moderators. I'm not going to assume anything - maybe you mean XDA when you said "from internet" and you just don't know how to use sear h or even how to read the response above you - but it sounds a bit fishy.
i aksing for help,i dont know what are you talking about ?
aSpirit81 said:
i download from internet and in usb storage i make folder SD Card
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An SD card is a physical storage device, which can be inserted into specific phones (and other devices).
Creating a folder called 'SD Card' or any other name for that matter using usb storage, will not result in the phone 'detecting' that folder as a virtual SD card.
Your phone (the HTC WP8X) does not have an physical SD card slot, so sideloading store apps is simply not possible for you.
The only apps you CAN sideload are non-encrypted XAPs, which was given to you by a developer or you created yourself. There is currently no way to sideload encrypted XAP files without an SD card slot, nor is there a way to decrypt these XAPs for other sideloading means.
GoodDayToDie said:
Go read the forum rules, then let us know if there's a good reason this thread shouldn't be locked by the moderators. I'm not going to assume anything - maybe you mean XDA when you said "from internet" and you just don't know how to use sear h or even how to read the response above you - but it sounds a bit fishy.
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On the official Windows Phone store if you scroll down to the bottom, it gives you the ability to download a .xap manual and sideload apps. I myself am trying to figure out how to get these .xap loaded as they aren't appearing in my store either.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/How-to/wp8/apps/how-do-i-install-apps-from-an-sd-card

Warning: 4.4.2 update breaks SD card access!

So, I just installed the 4.4.2 OTA and I immediately noticed one big problem: I wasn't able to modify content on my SD card. I wasn't able to delete folders, or create folders, or create files. Reading content was no problem, and the camera app was able to save pictures to the card, but going through a file manager wouldn't work.
I started to do some research and I found this post from the developer of my chosen file manager, FX:
https://plus.google.com/+TodLiebeck/posts/gjnmuaDM8sn
Then, while getting ready to post this, I found another related thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641936
I thought this was a big enough deal to warrant a new thread here. Bottom line is you may want to hold off on this update, or at least go in with your eyes open because for a lot of people, like me, this is a BIG problem. It's damned near a dealbreaker for using my S4 as a matter of fact. Note that it does seem you're able to use the My Files app, but that's almost useless to me: FX has SMB support and I'm constantly pulling files off my server. I even have FolderSync set up to run every night, but I don't expect that'll work either (I'm about to try now).
Whether Samsung spits out a fix quickly, or whether I can root and fix this, it's a pretty significant problem. Be aware folks!
Then I will update after a stable de-knoxed ROM is available.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
Thanks.for this. I think I will still update as I plan on staying unrooted and will use "my files".
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anees02 said:
Then I will update after a stable de-knoxed ROM is available.
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I'm all for avoiding Knox, but in this case it appears to not be Knox-related after all... looks like it was a permission change that Google mandated for devices with external storage and Samsung followed the specification to the letter. I think Tod Liebeck explained it better than I can though. I can only hope Samsung gets it together and quickly releases a patch... I've read in another thread that they may have done this before and quickly put out a fix... if so, shame on them for making the same mistake twice, but so long as a fix is forthcoming, so be it. I'm not so sure there will be one though, that's my concern.
It's early to call that is the bug since nobody mentioned this issue.
And all are busy how to update.
I will wait 48 hours until all things be more clear.
Could you try another SD card and tell us if the issue is happening to the new sd card?
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anees02 said:
It's early to call that is the bug since nobody mentioned this issue.
And all are busy how to update.
I will wait 48 hours until all things be more clear.
Could you try another SD card and tell us if the issue is happening to the new sd card?
Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
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Thing is, it was something that was apparently talked about before the update on other devices with 4.4.2. It's not a bug per se, Samsung did what Google told them to do, and Google told them to do it, I'd bet, to push people towards cloud storage since they don't want external storage used anymore anyway. None of that matters though because the fact is it's hurting some users (though I'd agree that not all will be impacted- it all depends on how you use your device).
A different card wouldn't matter, it's not related to that at all. It's a permission change that Google mandated with 4.4 (or 4.3, I've seen some conflicting info) that only impacts devices with external storage, and Samsung chose to follow Google's specification exactly in this case, to the detriment of (some) users.
FYI, *IF* you're rooted, here's a solution that fixes this. Worked for me and easy to do:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524277
Just remember to keep a copy so you can quickly undo it to take an OTA since I assume it'll stop an OTA.
Soooo lemme get this straight... Lets say I update to KitKat (NAE)and root it, and I have apps on my computer (like Flappy Bird APK for instance), I now cannot copy the Flappy Bird APK onto my SD Card then place it (using a root explorer) in system/app and use it?! If so this is a huge deal-breaker... Or am I misunderstanding this and there's more to it?
thankfully you can still create on the SD card from a computer when plugged. but i can confirm you cannot create anything on the SD card from ES file explorer, you can still create on the internal storage just fine tho
Joe0113 said:
Soooo lemme get this straight... Lets say I update to KitKat (NAE)and root it, and I have apps on my computer (like Flappy Bird APK for instance), I now cannot copy the Flappy Bird APK onto my SD Card then place it (using a root explorer) in system/app and use it?! If so this is a huge deal-breaker... Or am I misunderstanding this and there's more to it?
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You can still copy from your computer if you use a USB cable... if you instead have a shared drive on your PC and connect to it via SMB from a file explorer, you won't be able to copy a file to the SD card.
In addition, using a third-party file explorer you won't be able to create, rename, delete or edit files or directories on the SD card, nor will you be able to copy files from internal storage to your SD card. This is strictly a limitation placed on non-system apps (meaning any you yourself install).
If you're rooted though, a quick edit to a single system file will deal with this, but nobody should *have* to do that.
fzammetti said:
You can still copy from your computer if you use a USB cable... if you instead have a shared drive on your PC and connect to it via SMB from a file explorer, you won't be able to copy a file to the SD card.
In addition, using a third-party file explorer you won't be able to create, rename, delete or edit files or directories on the SD card, nor will you be able to copy files from internal storage to your SD card. This is strictly a limitation placed on non-system apps (meaning any you yourself install).
If you're rooted though, a quick edit to a single system file will deal with this, but nobody should *have* to do that.
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That's ridiculous... what the hell Android/Samsung?!
Wow! Not trying to rub it in or anything but thank goodness I switched to the Nexus 5. What a nightmare. I hope Samsung fixes it soon for you guys
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Thanks for this, lets go here for any further discussion...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2646762

Files disappear after failed MTP transfer

This is weird and probably not relevant to anyone, just thought I would put it out there.
I backup apps before I update from Play Store, so that I can roll back if there is any problem with a new version. Cleverly, I decided it was time to move the contents (5.54Gb) of the backup folder to my PC so I connected my Z1 (still running KitKat .108, it works flawlessly and I love Xposed) to the computer, accessed the folder on sd card (took a while to read) and selected all files and right clicked on the destination folder to paste. And nothing happened, just nothing. Selected the files again, same result, nothing happened. Went back and selected the folder, tried to paste that, nothing happens. Left it for a minute or two, to see if anything would happen. Nothing. So I disconnected from PC and and rebooted Z1.
And attempted to move the files again, only to find they were all gone. Now the folder was empty, but according to file managers the space is still being used. I have been through the entire sd card, hidden folders and all, can't find the files manually and the space has not been freed up. Tried to use GT Data Recovery app, it finds over 800 files in standard scan mode and over 3000 in full scan mode (there were 1042 files that were lost) but would not recover the files as it is coded to recover to internal memory only (even when recovering from sd card, WTF!) and there is not enough space. Second pass says no files to recover, first pass used 30% of battery.
I have left my Z1 in MTP mode for USB connections, as it has proved to be the least troublesome mode for data transfers (although my experience with every other Android phone has been the exact opposite).
I have no idea why this happened or how to recover the loss.
gandalf_grey91 said:
This is weird and probably not relevant to anyone, just thought I would put it out there.
I backup apps before I update from Play Store, so that I can roll back if there is any problem with a new version. Cleverly, I decided it was time to move the contents (5.54Gb) of the backup folder to my PC so I connected my Z1 (still running KitKat .108, it works flawlessly and I love Xposed) to the computer, accessed the folder on sd card (took a while to read) and selected all files and right clicked on the destination folder to paste. And nothing happened, just nothing. Selected the files again, same result, nothing happened. Went back and selected the folder, tried to paste that, nothing happens. Left it for a minute or two, to see if anything would happen. Nothing. So I disconnected from PC and and rebooted Z1.
And attempted to move the files again, only to find they were all gone. Now the folder was empty, but according to file managers the space is still being used. I have been through the entire sd card, hidden folders and all, can't find the files manually and the space has not been freed up. Tried to use GT Data Recovery app, it finds over 800 files in standard scan mode and over 3000 in full scan mode (there were 1042 files that were lost) but would not recover the files as it is coded to recover to internal memory only (even when recovering from sd card, WTF!) and there is not enough space. Second pass says no files to recover, first pass used 30% of battery.
I have left my Z1 in MTP mode for USB connections, as it has proved to be the least troublesome mode for data transfers (although my experience with every other Android phone has been the exact opposite).
I have no idea why this happened or how to recover the loss.
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I don't have much to say about recovering the files but I do have something to share.
First of all, were you trying to move (cut and paste) the files to PC?
Based on my own experience I can guarantee you that it will never work.
Every time I tried to move things from SD Card (connected to Z1) to PC nothing happens at all. Instead, if you want to move things from internal memory it works flawlessly. I don't know what's the problem but I do know that you can't move things from SD Card to PC connected to phone.
So you have 2 option to move your things (assuming that they didn't magically disappear).
First one is to copy and paste (instead of cut) and then delete them from the SD Card.
Second one is to remove your SD Card from your phone and connecting it directly to your PC (using adapter or something) and then move the files.
I'd suggest you to connect the SD Card directly to PC and open it and change windows settings to show hidden files and check if you can see them. If you can't, then all I can say is to go to some shop to check it for you.
Regards,
~J2C
Just2Cause said:
First of all, were you trying to move (cut and paste) the files to PC?
Based on my own experience I can guarantee you that it will never work.
Every time I tried to move things from SD Card (connected to Z1) to PC nothing happens at all. Instead, if you want to move things from internal memory it works flawlessly. I don't know what's the problem but I do know that you can't move things from SD Card to PC connected to phone.
So you have 2 option to move your things (assuming that they didn't magically disappear).
First one is to copy and paste (instead of cut) and then delete them from the SD Card.
Second one is to remove your SD Card from your phone and connecting it directly to your PC (using adapter or something) and then move the files.
I'd suggest you to connect the SD Card directly to PC and open it and change windows settings to show hidden files and check if you can see them. If you can't, then all I can say is to go to some shop to check it for you.
Regards,
~J2C
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Thanks for the reply. You are probably right, for some strange reason I tried to move the files at first, only after that did I try to copy but I fear it was too late. Will have a go at removing the card and seeing what I can do with a PC.
Thanks for the advice.

MTP file delete from SD does NOT create free space

Hello folks.
I've been deleting files form SD card, using MTP. Deletion works without error, files are not shown any more.
However: The SD-card does not show any more free space as before the deletion.
Any suggestions?
Device Moto G 2. gen
stock rom 6.0
Hello folks.
I'm wondering if my question is not clear.
I have 30MB left on my SD, even though I did delete a bunch of stuff.
I really could use a hint - would like to copy some new content to it, once I get more "free" space...
Well, how have things turned out?
You know about the extra restrictions regarding external storage added in Android 6. You can barely use the SD card as it is, let alone have Windows do things to it.
Have you tried checking the storage with a file manager? ES File Explorer and X-plore could be granted some sort of write permission - see if the files are still there and delete them through your phone - although those two have a recycle bin option, make sure you uncheck it first.
And start using Temasek's custom ROM in the first place. If you're using the SD card as much as I do, that's the only reasonable option when it comes to Android 6.

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