MTP file delete from SD does NOT create free space - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello folks.
I've been deleting files form SD card, using MTP. Deletion works without error, files are not shown any more.
However: The SD-card does not show any more free space as before the deletion.
Any suggestions?
Device Moto G 2. gen
stock rom 6.0

Hello folks.
I'm wondering if my question is not clear.
I have 30MB left on my SD, even though I did delete a bunch of stuff.
I really could use a hint - would like to copy some new content to it, once I get more "free" space...

Well, how have things turned out?
You know about the extra restrictions regarding external storage added in Android 6. You can barely use the SD card as it is, let alone have Windows do things to it.
Have you tried checking the storage with a file manager? ES File Explorer and X-plore could be granted some sort of write permission - see if the files are still there and delete them through your phone - although those two have a recycle bin option, make sure you uncheck it first.
And start using Temasek's custom ROM in the first place. If you're using the SD card as much as I do, that's the only reasonable option when it comes to Android 6.

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[Q] Directory for apps stored on SD Card

I am about to undertake the task of factory restoring my Moto Droid (for reasons I won't bore you with). I'm rooted, and have Rom Manager for Nandroid backups (so I flashed a new recovery), but other than that I'm running stock.
I don't want to redownload all of my apps, so I want to copy them over to my PC and push them back to the phone later using adb. My issue is, I cannot find the apps I have moved to the SD card. What is their file pathway?
I've used Astro and Terminal Emulater (with the ls command) to try to find the pathway, but I'm at a complete loss.
Before you say anything, I know Astro can backup apps; however, it does not back up apps that are stored on the SD card. And I have too many apps to move them all to internal storage to back them up with Astro.
I really need to find the file pathway so I can copy the .apk's. Any help will be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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I ended up just playing 'musical chairs' with the apps on the SD card to put them on the internal storage to back them up with Astro. It worked pretty well, though was unnecessarily time consuming.
And a lot of the best features in Titanium cost; I know it's supporting the dev, but I'm an eternal cheap skate when it comes to apps...

Expertise please HELP-SOLVED-

GTP1000 Rooted I'm using Install Manager, Android Assistant, Quick application Manager and Root explorer to shift all my application from the phone to the SD card unfortunately I figured out that I have only 200 MB remaining in my phone memory ! Only 4 programs installed on there as per of the previouse listed applications and the remaining on the SD card as it shows I start searching to figure out the problem using root explorer I found the root
Phone Memory/mnt/asec/secure/asec - 990 MB so I tried to move it to the SD card but once moved it will return back again to the same path!! Even if I tried to delete it will remain the same! also I found another root phone/mnt/asec -670 MB which has almost the same applications by all means using root explorer I cut& paste the first root to the SD card and reboot then only the installed programs in phone works and the other application icons disappeared I was shocked cause even trying to backup my mistake was a hectic work, by all means its again as it was and still facing the same problem any help
Solution
After fed up of finding any solution I start clear all the programs data manually at least to preserve some space and while clearing my phone explorer application data I shocked it was loaded with 1.53 GB!!!!! Don’t know where it came from!!! But finally my sole been relieved thanks for all the assistant been given by every one answered my query
Ok a few issues here....
1) You should be asking this in the Q&A forum, not the Dev forum, it has nothing to do with development
2) You don't need four third party apps to move your apps to sdcard. Apps2SD is a function of the android system. You can simply go into Settings->Manage Apps and then go into whatever app you want to move and press the button that says "Move to SD Card"
3) You really shouldn't be rooting around your phone deleting or moving stuff without a thorough understanding of Linux and Android.../mnt/asec/secure/asec is a symlink to .android_secure on your sdcard. Those files were not actually on your internal memory, just links to files on your sdcard.
4) Android will manage your internal memory as necessary...you really don't need to be worried about having only 200mb free. Once you run out it will start installing apps to your sdcard on its own.
At this point I think you're pretty fubar and will have to reinstall the apps then move them to SD if you so choose.
Dear thanks a lot for you respond also thanks to direct me to the proper channel to post my inquiry in, also thanks a lot for the advices and for the explanation but one more concern killing me, why once trying to install new application an red SD card icons appears on the tab upper left corner with memory full window listing that internal device memory is nearly full delete/uninstall some applications or data and try again! Any help
Internal Memory full
You must have a ton of data on your internal SD and that is why the icon appeared. Also, some apps cannot be moved to the external SD. I would go into your applications and see what is vital and what you can delete. Keep the internal SD as light as possible. External SD's can be expanded to 32 gbs (i have one and it works well)..so use that for all your data and for moveable apps. Remember to check which apps you can move and which must stay on the Internal SD.

[Q] n00b question: internal SD card - what's safe to delete..??

So, I had my Raider for about a month before rooting and installing the rumraider beta BUT...my internal SD is showing very little free space, and all I can think of is that I used to have a few gb of vids & pics in one of the folder hide apps, and they were stored on the internal SD. All that ever showed in any explorer app was an empty folder, even though that's supposedly where the files were hidden. Anyway, I deleted the folder manually, just to see if 3gb or so would magically free up.. but that didn't happen. There are also a bunch of no longer installed apps' data folders kicking around I'm quite sure.. so the questions are:
(a) what does the format internal SD card option do in the raider's system menu..and will it wipe out anything important to the function of my phone?
(b) is it safe and/or advisable to manually browse & delete unnecessary folders?
(c) if I've already used SD Maid and see no real noticeable difference in free space, are there any other apps which might do a better job?
..I have only a few dozen apps installed since flashing the rumraider rom, but the phones internal storage was pretty full beforehand.. I just assumed that the whole wipe process prior to (and during, if I read the progress right) the flash would clear all that data out. Its got 16gb internal storage in total.. partitioned, true.. but still.. i have almost nothing free. I find that odd.
'lil help? LOL!
bproulx said:
So, I had my Raider for about a month before rooting and installing the rumraider beta BUT...my internal SD is showing very little free space, and all I can think of is that I used to have a few gb of vids & pics in one of the folder hide apps, and they were stored on the internal SD. All that ever showed in any explorer app was an empty folder, even though that's supposedly where the files were hidden. Anyway, I deleted the folder manually, just to see if 3gb or so would magically free up.. but that didn't happen. There are also a bunch of no longer installed apps' data folders kicking around I'm quite sure.. so the questions are:
(a) what does the format internal SD card option do in the raider's system menu..and will it wipe out anything important to the function of my phone?
(b) is it safe and/or advisable to manually browse & delete unnecessary folders?
(c) if I've already used SD Maid and see no real noticeable difference in free space, are there any other apps which might do a better job?
..I have only a few dozen apps installed since flashing the rumraider rom, but the phones internal storage was pretty full beforehand.. I just assumed that the whole wipe process prior to (and during, if I read the progress right) the flash would clear all that data out. Its got 16gb internal storage in total.. partitioned, true.. but still.. i have almost nothing free. I find that odd.
'lil help? LOL!
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+1 using holiraider
your internal sd is only 9.48gb(ish). on that, you can delete anything you want. whether any apps use any of the data in there is dependent on the apps you have installed. there is nothing there that is */required/* for your rom to function correctly
after backing up all your pictures/music/titanium backup files/clockworkmod backups/etc to your computer or all on an external card, you can safely format the internal sd. the system will recreate any files/folders it needs.
personally, i would just back EVERYTHING on the internal sd up to my computer, format the internal sd from the system menu, and if anything doesnt work properly after that, you always have the files handy.
I have a 32gb sd card so i backup the internal to sdcard2 into a ".No Media" folder. I hate duplicating images.. But this way i always have a back up with me since i like to flash roms while im at work (to impatient to wait till im home).

internal storage partition question

so i have a gs3 and a nex7 - i've been flashing roms on both devices for a little while now using cwm rec-
i've flashed cm 10 cm 10.1 (4.2.1) and pa 3.0 on my nex 7
i've flashed all of the same roms and also pac man and now on liquid smooth (4.2.2) on my gs3
something i notice is that on my gs3 every time i'm flashing a new rom i get another "0" folder on the internal sd card that's full of all the basic folders that the os fills up i.e. movies, music, dcim along with any folders that my apps create - ti backup etc
- so what i've been doing is just manually managing what's on the internal card for the gs3 - i just pull the crap back from the deepest '0" folder back out 1 level and delete what i don't need and delete the empty "0" folder - i keep clockwork backups and stuff that takes bigger memory on my external sd so i can keep the internal clean
something strange i've noticed is that after flashing some of the same roms on the nex 7 i am getting the same extra "0" folder just like with my gs3, but for some reason i can only see it in clockwork mod recovery actually on the nexus 7 - i can't see the "0" folder using win 7 file manager via usb connection
i've looked at ll the obvious things on windows and it's just not there -
can anyone tell me if there's something i have to change to be able to see the "0" folder so i can mange what's in there as well?
read the threads about the 0 folder issues with 4.2+?
flash newest recovery to device to prevent it from happening in the future
I believe I'm on the latest version of cwm and the gs3 is a newer version of android then my nexus 7 right now
Its on the 4.2.1 version of paranoid
Gs3 is on 4.2.2 liquid smooth
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I see all the threads on 0 folders - and the fixes
I just didn't see a scenario where someone could only see the 0 folder in cwm not windows file mgr
cpolly69 said:
I believe I'm on the latest version of cwm and the gs3 is a newer version of android then my nexus 7 right now
Its on the 4.2.1 version of paranoid
Gs3 is on 4.2.2 liquid smooth
Edit
I see all the threads on 0 folders - and the fixes
I just didn't see a scenario where someone could only see the 0 folder in cwm not windows file mgr
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Windows its only seeing what your Nexus is showing it. The virtual sdcard that the current user sees, i.e. /0. Windows is not seeing the raw partition.
ok why does it see the entire partition on my gs3 then? using the same software (same version anyway)
i checked i'm on 6.0.2.3
i just want to clean up the internal sd card and keep it clean moving forward with new roms or w/e
if i go into recovery and choose /mount and storage/ format sd card - will i still be able to boot on my current rom or does it need something that's there -
i know on my gs3 i can basically erase anything on the internal sd and it doesn't affect the rom or boot process - just missing info for apps
btw we are saying that the nexus only shows windows the current user partition - i guess it does the same for apps like file manager as well - because i can't see the 0 folder there either
is there not a setting or app that will allow me to choose what windows or apps can see on the sd card?
with root access you can view ANYTHING under /data/media
with only user access you can only see /data/media/0
someone posted up a nice file manger on gogole + i tried out and it sees everything -
not that i can see everything at least on the device i''m just more confused about how the sd partition is formatted
i took a quick pic to see where it goes automatically
i now realize that everything is put there in triplicate -
once under root/sdcard
once under root/storage/emulated/o
and once under root/storage/sdcard0
are these all the same thing some how?
so confused - i guess i'd really just like to know why i only have 2.38 gb of open space on this device
they are called SYMLINKS
your space is probably being eaten up by backups twrp/cwm?
look above the 0 folder for TWRP or Clockworkmod folder
also, ES File explorer from the play store would work just fine for browsing files. it has root access
I think I once heard about the n7 have a protect root files feature sort of like how the psp has protect flash 0 on the newer cfws..
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Pirateghost said:
they are called SYMLINKS
your space is probably being eaten up by backups twrp/cwm?
look above the 0 folder for TWRP or Clockworkmod folder
also, ES File explorer from the play store would work just fine for browsing files. it has root access
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i'm kinda back where i started right now
i just took a few screen shots to compare some stuff
the 3 folders that match each other i can see with a file manger are what's under 0 when i look with clockworkmod
but the /sdcard dir by itself is still info i can' t see with a file manager or windows -
you are right about the backups - i know a backup is 2 big folders from experience w/ my gs3 and i have 2 of them - they are eating the memory - i can't kill them in cwm and i can't see them any other way
ugh
it feels like my only option is to format the sd card -
i'm back to the same ? as earlier -
if i choose format the sd card from cwm will i still be able to boot into my current rom?
ES File Explorer
give it root rights
browse to /data/media/clockworkmod
delete what you want
OR
i think rom manager has an update that lets you manage your backups....
you WILL NOT see them from windows.
Pirateghost said:
ES File Explorer
give it root rights
browse to /data/media/clockworkmod
delete what you want
OR
i think rom manager has an update that lets you manage your backups....
you WILL NOT see them from windows.
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that app can see less then file wrangler that i've already been using - and file wrangler lets you pull up 2 columns to drag and drop
backups are not in the folder you specified - still can't see what cwm can with a file manager app - all of these apps i've been using have root permission - that's how i was able to see the paths that started with /.root that i mentioned earlier
rom manger did have what you mentioned - i killed one of the 2 backups and got a bit more space -
i also used file wrangler to kill some of the roms i have been trying that were still on there
what's a normal amount of free space to see on a 16gb device? i have 1 1gb movie and almost no pics right now i have about 5.17gb free
i wish someone knew the answer to my ? about formatting the internal card and still being able to boot my current rom....
cpolly69 said:
that app can see less then file wrangler that i've already been using - and file wrangler lets you pull up 2 columns to drag and drop
backups are not in the folder you specified - still can't see what cwm can with a file manager app - all of these apps i've been using have root permission - that's how i was able to see the paths that started with /.root that i mentioned earlier
rom manger did have what you mentioned - i killed one of the 2 backups and got a bit more space -
i also used file wrangler to kill some of the roms i have been trying that were still on there
what's a normal amount of free space to see on a 16gb device? i have 1 1gb movie and almost no pics right now i have about 5.17gb free
i wish someone knew the answer to my ? about formatting the internal card and still being able to boot my current rom....
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your rom has nothing to do with whats on the internal storage, it does not require anything from it. if you dont want to keep anything thats on there, then format it within android...

I cannot write to microSD card (128Gb)!!

Any solution? Many thanks for your kind help!
First things first. Can you write to the SD card using the built-in File Commander app?
plvigo said:
Any solution? Many thanks for your kind help!
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This really needs a fuller description of the problem: what exactly are you trying to do, what do you expect to happen, and what happens instead?
ghtop said:
This really needs a fuller description of the problem: what exactly are you trying to do, what do you expect to happen, and what happens instead?
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Also is the sdcard genuine..?
Millions of fakes around..
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I had same problem,first question should be where did you buy it and for how much? For example sellers from eBay are selling 128gb SD card for 15£ only but it's just rebranded 32 or 64gb cards!
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Hi!
This is the Sd 128Gb I bought:
http://www.amazon.it/SanDisk-Androi...784&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+sd+128+gb+classe+10
I think that is a good one!
I saw that this kind of problem starts with Kit Kat, isn't correct?
It's very strange that I cannot copy from the device any file in the Sd card and viceversa!
Many thanks for your kind help!
It's probably not strange and yes, things changed with KitKat. But since you're still refusing to tell us what exactly you're trying to do and how, we cannot help you.
The device can read the SD card, but cannot write in it any kind of file; it's impossible to move or to copy, paste or delete any kind of file, using all file manager you can find in the google play, also trying with resco explorer for rooter user (my Z3 compact isn't rooted). I hope that this explanation can be clear enough!
It's very strange that you can use the Sd card like the older Jelly Beam system, that allow to move o copy any file from one directory to another or from the internal memory to the SD card!
Many thanks again for your kind cooperation!
Of course it's perfectly possible to copy to/from sd card on KitKat, otherwise what would be the point of even having them in KitKat devices.
But usage is more restricted than in earlier Android versions. Tell us *exactly* what you're trying to do, and we can point you in the right direction.
ghtop said:
Of course it's perfectly possible to copy to/from sd card on KitKat, otherwise what would be the point of even having them in KitKat devices.
But usage is more restricted than in earlier Android versions. Tell us *exactly* what you're trying to do, and we can point you in the right direction.
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I think that my english is not good enough to explain what I would like to do!
I will try again: with my new Z3 compact and the SD Sandisk 128Gb I cannot copy or move a file from the internal storage of the device to the SD card and viceversa. Also, I can write the SD card, for example, to create or to rename or to delete a file or a directory in the SD card.
Is it clear?
I hope so and, once again, many thanks for your kind help!!
Have you tried the File Commander app provided by Sony? Otherwise apps can only write to their own folders.
ghtop said:
Have you tried the File Commander app provided by Sony? Otherwise apps can only write to their own folders.
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Yes, I tried!
With the File Commander provided by Sony you can manage the SD, but you cannot use the directory which you created (that seems to be only for reading and not for writing) for example, for downloading files from app of the device (e.g. Ttorrent).
Any solution?
plvigo said:
Yes, I tried!
With the File Commander provided by Sony you can manage the SD, but you cannot use the directory which you created (that seems to be only for reading and not for writing) for example, for downloading files from app of the device (e.g. Ttorrent).
Any solution?
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You *can* use it for writing ... with File Commander ... but as I stated, otherwise apps can only write to their own folders, e.g. SD card > Android > data > com.yourapp.something
Apps that support saving to SD card will typically have the option in their app settings, and they'll use their own app folder for that. Like Google Music or all of Sony's own apps.
You can also copy stuff to/from top level folders via USB or Wireless Media Transfer.
ghtop said:
You *can* use it for writing ... with File Commander ... but as I stated, otherwise apps can only write to their own folders, e.g. SD card > Android > data > com.yourapp.something
Apps that support saving to SD card will typically have the option in their app settings, and they'll use their own app folder for that. Like Google Music or all of Sony's own apps.
You can also copy stuff to/from top level folders via USB or Wireless Media Transfer.
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Ok!! Many many thanks for your explanation!! Best regards!!
I can't delete photos from my SD since I started using QuickPic rather than the ultra buggy default 'Album' app thing.
Because the same policy applies to all user apps, they only have write access to their own folder for security reasons.

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