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[Warning: I'm relatively new to Android. I've used it for about a year, and I have a decent understanding on how it works. I've rooted and used Safestrap before and know the basics on almost everything, but not much more.]
I'm planning on purchasing a license for Sunshine, and unlocking my bootloader for my new Turbo. I was planning on using it to install a custom rom, like CyanogenMod, since that's the only rom I've used before, and possibly trying some new ones. However, I realized that I would lose all the Motorola features, like Moto Voice, Moto Actions, Moto Display, and so on. I love these features and use them all the time, so I don't want to give them up. Is there some kind of way to keep them with a different rom?
I was thinking that maybe there was a custom rom that has these features, or maybe there's some way to install them onto a regular custom rom.
Any ideas?
Latiken said:
[Warning: I'm relatively new to Android. I've used it for about a year, and I have a decent understanding on how it works. I've rooted and used Safestrap before and know the basics on almost everything, but not much more.]
I'm planning on purchasing a license for Sunshine, and unlocking my bootloader for my new Turbo. I was planning on using it to install a custom rom, like CyanogenMod, since that's the only rom I've used before, and possibly trying some new ones. However, I realized that I would lose all the Motorola features, like Moto Voice, Moto Actions, Moto Display, and so on. I love these features and use them all the time, so I don't want to give them up. Is there some kind of way to keep them with a different rom?
I was thinking that maybe there was a custom rom that has these features, or maybe there's some way to install them onto a regular custom rom.
Any ideas?
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If you're planning on going to anything based on cyanogenmod, no. Someone would need to port these apps to the new rom, and no one has done that yet. However, some of the features can be replicated using other apps. For example, Moto Display is almost identical to the native android feature Ambient Display. You can use Ok Google voice commands for most Moto Voice applications.
An alternative would be to download a modified stock firmware (such as the one maintained by Computerfreek), or modify one yourself. This way, you can keep the Moto apps. Modifying your own firmware is very easy using TWRP (which you will install after unlocking your bootloader). Usually it's as simple as finding a flashable .zip file that contains the feature(s) you want to add and flashing it via TWRP.
TheSt33v said:
If you're planning on going to anything based on cyanogenmod, no. Someone would need to port these apps to the new rom, and no one has done that yet. However, some of the features can be replicated using other apps. For example, Moto Display is almost identical to the native android feature Ambient Display. You can use Ok Google voice commands for most Moto Voice applications.
An alternative would be to download a modified stock firmware (such as the one maintained by Computerfreek), or modify one yourself. This way, you can keep the Moto apps. Modifying your own firmware is very easy using TWRP (which you will install after unlocking your bootloader). Usually it's as simple as finding a flashable .zip file that contains the feature(s) you want to add and flashing it via TWRP.
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Hmmm... How would I go about creating the flashable .zip like you said. Remember, I'm still a relative noob.
Latiken said:
Hmmm... How would I go about creating the flashable .zip like you said. Remember, I'm still a relative noob.
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You don't need to. Just download the ones that you want. For example:
1. Upgrade to the latest official firmware (SU4TL-44) and unlock your bootloader with Sunshine.
2. Want root access? Use TWRP to flash SuperSU. Download that flashable zip here: https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip
3. Want to use the Xposed framework to easily modify your device in a ton of different ways? Use TWRP to flash it. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811 (you need SDK22 arm)
4. Want to add audio optimizations? Flash PON-3. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530976. Flash it, same as the others.
The installation for all of these is the same. Once your bootloader is unlocked and TWRP is installed, boot into TWRP, select "install", select the .zip file that you want to install, and flash it. Done.
TheSt33v said:
You don't need to. Just download the ones that you want. For example:
1. Upgrade to the latest official firmware (SU4TL-44) and unlock your bootloader with Sunshine.
2. Want root access? Use TWRP to flash SuperSU. Download that flashable zip here: https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip
3. Want to use the Xposed framework to easily modify your device in a ton of different ways? Use TWRP to flash it. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811 (you need SDK22 arm)
4. Want to add audio optimizations? Flash PON-3. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530976. Flash it, same as the others.
The installation for all of these is the same. Once your bootloader is unlocked and TWRP is installed, boot into TWRP, select "install", select the .zip file that you want to install, and flash it. Done.
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I've used Xposed before on my old Safestrap device. I thought about using Xposed on the stock rom, but I was hoping there was another option, since custom roms offer much more than Xposed modules do. Thanks for the links, I think I'll go with what you said. One question though, so there's no way to flash or install the Moto suite onto a custom rom (with or without TWRP)?
And one more thing, is it possible to use the IR sensors in the Turbo to wake up the Ambient display? (Like when you wave your hand over it and it shows the Moto Display.)
Latiken said:
I've used Xposed before on my old Safestrap device. I thought about using Xposed on the stock rom, but I was hoping there was another option, since custom roms offer much more than Xposed modules do. Thanks for the links, I think I'll go with what you said. One question though, so there's no way to flash or install the Moto suite onto a custom rom (with or without TWRP)?
And one more thing, is it possible to use the IR sensors in the Turbo to wake up the Ambient display? (Like when you wave your hand over it and it shows the Moto Display.)
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Settings -> Gestures & turn on Wave under Ambient Display
Cobra04 said:
Settings -> Gestures & turn on Wave under Ambient Display
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I'm not sure if I'm just an idiot, but where is Gestures?
Latiken said:
I'm not sure if I'm just an idiot, but where is Gestures?
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Should be in the Settings app under Device
Cobra04 said:
Should be in the Settings app under Device
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It's not there for me. I'm not sure if you think I'm running any modifications. I'm using pure stock.
Edit: I can't post images until I exceed 10 posts..
Latiken said:
It's not there for me. I'm not sure if you think I'm running any modifications. I'm using pure stock.
Edit: I can't post images until I exceed 10 posts..
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What ROM are you on?
Cobra04 said:
What ROM are you on?
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100% pure stock rom that ships with the Turbo
Latiken said:
I've used Xposed before on my old Safestrap device. I thought about using Xposed on the stock rom, but I was hoping there was another option, since custom roms offer much more than Xposed modules do. Thanks for the links, I think I'll go with what you said. One question though, so there's no way to flash or install the Moto suite onto a custom rom (with or without TWRP)?
And one more thing, is it possible to use the IR sensors in the Turbo to wake up the Ambient display? (Like when you wave your hand over it and it shows the Moto Display.)
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There is no way that I know of to get Moto et al working on a different rom. Like I said, the apps would have to be ported. I'm not very knowledgeable about what that entails, but I do know that the Moto apps need more than just their respective apks to function properly. They require extra libraries, drivers, etc. to work, most of which are probably kernel-related (you can't use the stock kernel on a non-Motorola rom). So someone porting those apps would have to either integrate these supplementary files into CM or AOSP or whatever, or rewrite the apps so that they rely on existing google code.
TheSt33v said:
There is no way that I know of to get Moto et al working on a different rom. Like I said, the apps would have to be ported. I'm not very knowledgeable about what that entails, but I do know that the Moto apps need more than just their respective apks to function properly. They require extra libraries, drivers, etc. to work, most of which are probably kernel-related (you can't use the stock kernel on a non-Motorola rom). So someone porting those apps would have to either integrate these supplementary files into CM or AOSP or whatever, or rewrite the apps so that they rely on existing google code.
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Dang it, that's unfortunate. Guess Xposed, and custom kernals and images will have to suffice. Thanks for the help!
Any recommendations for making the stock rom seem more custom?
Latiken said:
Dang it, that's unfortunate. Guess Xposed, and custom kernals and images will have to suffice. Thanks for the help!
Any recommendations for making the stock rom seem more custom?
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Xposed, particularly gravitybox. I'm not really sure what you meant when you said that custom roms offer so much more than xposed does. I used custom roms for a long time on my Galaxy S4, and except for AOSP vs TouchWiz or installing a more recent version of android, I can't think of a single thing that a custom rom can do that an xposed module can't.
TheSt33v said:
Xposed, particularly gravitybox. I'm not really sure what you meant when you said that custom roms offer so much more than xposed does. I used custom roms for a long time on my Galaxy S4, and except for AOSP vs TouchWiz or installing a more recent version of android, I can't think of a single thing that a custom rom can do that an xposed module can't.
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For me, custom roms don't exactly offer much more than modules do, but the experience of using a custom rom is much greater. Since everything is made by the same developers, it flows well with each other. Instead of having to rely on multiple modules that have to be updated, you can just install what is essentially a new OS, and get an entirely new flavour of Android.
TheSt33v said:
There is no way that I know of to get Moto et al working on a different rom. Like I said, the apps would have to be ported. I'm not very knowledgeable about what that entails, but I do know that the Moto apps need more than just their respective apks to function properly. They require extra libraries, drivers, etc. to work, most of which are probably kernel-related (you can't use the stock kernel on a non-Motorola rom). So someone porting those apps would have to either integrate these supplementary files into CM or AOSP or whatever, or rewrite the apps so that they rely on existing google code.
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But there are many functions and apps that do exactly the same thing.
Ambient Display = Moto Display
OK Google = Moto Voice
plus tons of apps to read notifications, texts, emails.
Etc.
I dumped my Motorola stuff months ago and have everything I need.
It's not that big a deal.
Open source is almost always better than proprietary stuff anyway.
ChazzMatt said:
But there are many functions and apps that do exactly the same thing.
Ambient Display = Moto Display
OK Google = Moto Voice
plus tons of apps to read notifications, texts, emails.
Etc.
It's not that big a deal.
Open source is almost always better than proprietary stuff anyway.
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Agreed. If you're willing to learn and set up some things, I bet you could get 100% moto functionality without a single moto app. Does anyone know of an app that will give me the chop-chop flashlight? Because when I eventually make the move to CM (assuming we ever get CM13), that will be the feature I miss most. And I'm being completely serious about that.
ChazzMatt said:
But there are many functions and apps that do exactly the same thing.
Ambient Display = Moto Display
OK Google = Moto Voice
plus tons of apps to read notifications, texts, emails.
Etc.
I dumped my Motorola stuff months ago and have everything I need.
It's not that big a deal.
Open source is almost always better than proprietary stuff anyway.
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I find Moto Display to be much cleaner than Ambient Display.
Moto Voice was nice because of the custom launch phrase, and the system commands you could do.
Moto Actions comes in handy almost every day, especially the Dual Chop and Camera wrist twist.
If I could find I way to replace all or most of this then I would be content.
Latiken said:
I find Moto Display to be much cleaner than Ambient Display.
Moto Voice was nice because of the custom launch phrase, and the system commands you could do.
Moto Actions comes in handy almost every day, especially the Dual Chop and Camera wrist twist.
If I could find I way to replace all or most of this then I would be content.
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Download Commandr from the play store. I think that allows you to customize your OK Google phrase. It also allows you to add or customize OK Google commands.
But yeah, I use the actions a lot too, and I don't know of an app that will replace them.
The problem I have with Ambient Display is that it doesn't work when I toggle my lockscreen off. MotoDisplay still showed me notifications. With ambient display and lockscreen off, I have no way to visually know my notifications.
Good morning, i'm on the pixel experience rom on my mi 9, and i have enabled the Google assistant 2.0 by making Google thinking that i have a pixel 4 XL (by modifying the build.prop file). But it doesn't have any ui. Someone know how to get the transparent ui please? Thank you in advance
Bro how u do that? And i hope u fix the ui for google assistant
Asapakyou01 said:
Bro how u do that? And i hope u fix the ui for google assistant
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Hi, if your phone is rooted and you have an aosp rom (like pixel experience), you can install a root file explorer, like root explorer. Then go to /system/build.prop and change cepheus by flame in device, name and product, Mi 9 by Pixel 4 XL in model, and Xiaomi by Google in brand and manufacturer. Then save and reboot. After that, clean the data of the Google app, then try to trigger the google assistant. You should see a download screen, then the google assistant 2.0 will be enabled.
Ithink i already do it. Thank u sir. How about the continue conversation do u make it work?
Asapakyou01 said:
Ithink i already do it. Thank u sir. How about the continue conversation do u make it work?
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To enable continue conversation, you only need to go to the google app > settings > Google assistant, and in the assistant tab, you will find the continue conversation category, where you can enable it for your phone. I hope that this will help you. Have a great day sir.
boubougaming said:
To enable continue conversation, you only need to go to the google app > settings > Google assistant, and in the assistant tab, you will find the continue conversation category, where you can enable it for your phone. I hope that this will help you. Have a great day sir.
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Theres no option to tick it on my phone. Only shared devices i can on to continued conversation
Asapakyou01 said:
Theres no option to tick it on my phone. Only shared devices i can on to continued conversation
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And in the google assistant languages settings, do you have only English US? It's require to get the new google assistant.
boubougaming said:
And in the google assistant languages settings, do you have only English US? It's require to get the new google assistant.
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Thanks bro its working now its pretty cool
Hi boubougaming, can you please Post your complete build.prop file? Thanks!
boubougaming said:
Hi, if your phone is rooted and you have an aosp rom (like pixel experience), you can install a root file explorer, like root explorer. Then go to /system/build.prop and change cepheus by flame in device, name and product, Mi 9 by Pixel 4 XL in model, and Xiaomi by Google in brand and manufacturer. Then save and reboot. After that, clean the data of the Google app, then try to trigger the google assistant. You should see a download screen, then the google assistant 2.0 will be enabled.
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cj182 said:
Hi boubougaming, can you please Post your complete build.prop file? Thanks!
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Of course, here you are. It's from the latest build of evolutionX rom, but it will ne the same thing for pixel experience or derpfest ....
boubougaming said:
Hi, if your phone is rooted and you have an aosp rom (like pixel experience), you can install a root file explorer, like root explorer. Then go to /system/build.prop and change cepheus by flame in device, name and product, Mi 9 by Pixel 4 XL in model, and Xiaomi by Google in brand and manufacturer. Then save and reboot. After that, clean the data of the Google app, then try to trigger the google assistant. You should see a download screen, then the google assistant 2.0 will be enabled.
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Is that working with other Xiaomi device? I have redmi note 5 pro and i use derpfest.
milpapa23 said:
Is that working with other Xiaomi device? I have redmi note 5 pro and i use derpfest.
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Yeah, I think that it may work on any Android device with an aosp rom.
boubougaming said:
Yeah, I think that it may work on any Android device with an aosp rom.
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did any one get the new ui to work too .
Even I'm not getting the ui. Let me know if there's any fix
sahil shetty said:
Even I'm not getting the ui. Let me know if there's any fix
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after 26/02/2020 if you try to this method it wont work and on the google assistent download will give you an error
edit : after rebooting the phone its working , still no ui do just thef features
AmineNrr said:
after 26/02/2020 if you try to this method it wont work and on the google assistent download will give you an error
edit : after rebooting the phone its working , still no ui do just thef features
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Yeah, i think that the ui is somewhere in the pixel 4 rom, but i can't see anything in an android dump of this phone.
Yesteday i have spoke with argraur, a developer that has enabled the next gen google assistant in his rom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/development/rom-google-pixelrom-v3-0sep-mi-8-t3843356.
He told me how he did, but sadly it didn't worked on the mi 9. I have tested his method on the derpfest rom and on the phhusson's gsi. So for the moment, i don't know what to do, except waiting that google release it for more phones.
boubougaming said:
Yesteday i have spoke with argraur, a developer that has enabled the next gen google assistant in his rom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/development/rom-google-pixelrom-v3-0sep-mi-8-t3843356.
He told me how he did, but sadly it didn't worked on the mi 9. I have tested his method on the derpfest rom and on the phhusson's gsi. So for the moment, i don't know what to do, except waiting that google release it for more phones.
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can you tell us how he did it
AmineNrr said:
can you tell us how he did it
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Yeah, you must follow the steps described here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe..._enable_new_google_assistant_for_older_pixel/.
Then, from a google flame dump: https://github.com/AndroidDumps/goo...-user-10-QQ1D.200205.002-6084393-release-keys,
take in the product directory priv-app/systemuiGoogle, usr/srec/, etc/sysconfig and push it in the same directories on the mi 9. Then reboot your phone and clear the google app data if needed. Then you should have the next gen assistant. If it's not the case, make sure you have only supported languages checked in the google assistant languages settings. So good luck, and i hope that someone will succeed to enable it with the new ui.
boubougaming said:
Yeah, you must follow the steps described here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe..._enable_new_google_assistant_for_older_pixel/.
Then, from a google flame dump: https://github.com/AndroidDumps/goo...-user-10-QQ1D.200205.002-6084393-release-keys,
take in the product directory priv-app/systemuiGoogle, usr/srec/, etc/sysconfig and push it in the same directories on the mi 9. Then reboot your phone and clear the google app data if needed. Then you should have the next gen assistant. If it's not the case, make sure you have only supported languages checked in the google assistant languages settings. So good luck, and i hope that someone will succeed to enable it with the new ui.
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with the method that we use before I have the new google assistent just not with the ui ( I try some test and everything is working like GA 2.0 ) we are chasing perfection right now hhhhhh , anyway I will try this new methode and report back if its work
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
Didgeridoohan said:
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
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Thank you for the reply. I agree but from my research I could not find custom ROMs available for the Pixel 3 that are officially supported and stable. Please recommend one if there is one that is officially supported and stable. If there is not I would like to know the steps after I root a phone to remove all the google apps and services.
https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
castrum_doloris said:
https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
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Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services. You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora. When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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To get rid of issues, uninstall any google apps you want systemlessly using Debloater ( Terminal Emulator ).
ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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You are in luck. Get a huawei phone.
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ToughDBlue said:
Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services.
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"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
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You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora.
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MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
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When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
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No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
ToughDBlue said:
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
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I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
Lineage is available for Pixel 3. It is unofficial, but built by someone on the Lineage team. Check the Pixel 3xl forum. Most custom roms are posted there, but are actually for both devices. The thing is, most custom roms for the device come with GAPPs included (Including Lineage), so not useful for you. This is getting OT though.
castrum_doloris said:
"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
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Thank you for the very detailed reply. Very helpful. I decided to get a Oneplus 7T and not a Pixel 3. I did research and found that most custom ROMs for the Oneplus 7T do not officially support Android 10 as well as MicroG and TWRP. The unofficial custom ROMs note that there are bugs and some instability currently. Being a newbie and needing my Oneplus 7T to be reliable as it's my only phone I rather have an officially supported LineageOS with MicroG custom ROM when it's released. Until then I need help figuring out the best method to remove all gapps and services. I don't use any google apps. I do use Microsoft apps so I need those to not only work but be able to send notifications. I also need to have location services work for a non-google maps app and weather app. I would like to keep Oxygen OS as it has some customizations features I like. Am I asking too much? Lol. However, since microG is not supported I don't think I can do what I'm looking for since MicroG removes all gapps and services and replaces them including location services ability and notifications. Does Magisk have a module that can do what I'm looking for?
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
Didgeridoohan said:
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
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I couldn't find the Manager downloads on the OP7T forum. Can you provide a direct link to the Manager downloads?
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
Didgeridoohan said:
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
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Got it. Thank you for your help!
G'day
I'm sick of google and everything they are about. Don't be evil my arse. I already do the simple stuff like using brave browser and duck duck go search. I'm hoping someone can advise me on how to strip my phone of as much google as possible and replace with aosp alternatives. Or even just point me towards some guides on it.
I am using a Samsung galaxy a22 5g rooted with magisk stock rom.
Thanks
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
Champdroid said:
de-google
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i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
hajdulak said:
I found that uptodown does host apks
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do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
loopypalm said:
do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
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Nice, thanks for that! ♥
hajdulak said:
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
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Hey thanks for the reply and info. Flashing an aosp custom rom would be my usual go to. However I've been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
loopypalm said:
i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
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Cheers for this. Agree on the first statement but having been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom? If safe and stable I'm happy to do the research because I'd love to get a custom aosp rom going on this.
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
I used to flash heaps of roms and kernels on older devices but this whole GSI thing is new to me. If it's dicey I'll go the TB route with the folders you pointed me to. Cheers
Champdroid said:
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom?
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if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
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Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
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looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
Champdroid said:
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
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sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
loopypalm said:
if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
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Cool cheers for your help mate. Touche on the last point. New job with nice pay bump coming so that will be the go I think.
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
I built a Magisk module for this some time ago. However, it's very likely that it won't work anymore and will probably cause a bootloop. I'm only posting it in case someone wants to use the repo as inspiration.
Kermina Awad / DeGoogle · GitLab
Google? A Magisk module which removes, Google?
gitlab.com
MartK87 said:
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
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you forgot to mention that both GrapheneOS and CalyXOS are available ONLY for the Pixel phones
and the Pixels have a unique feature - the bootloader can be locked back AFTER flashing a custom ROM
Well I stand corrected ( said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)
want de-google? buy and iphone and done
No idea why Google thinks my RN11 on crDroid 9 is a Huawei Nexus 6P.
I thought spoofing any Google phone was not possible?
I would be curious to know what those on LineageOS see, since crDroid is supposed to be based off that.
That's spoofing. It's used to pass SafetyNet without installing anything additional in custom ROMs
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That's spoofing. It's used to pass SafetyNet without installing anything additional in custom ROMs
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Terrific explanation, thank you. So we can't choose the spoof or change it. (not that I have any need to do so myself) My guess is other ROMs see this or another device as set in the safetynet version they are using. I use version 2.3.1, the latest.
Sheist! said:
Terrific explanation, thank you. So we can't choose the spoof or change it. (not that I have any need to do so myself) My guess is other ROM's see this or another device as set in the safetynet version they are using.
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There is (or maybe was) a solution called 'magisk hide props' that isn't updated for a while afaik. With it it's possible to change device fingerprints. If i get it right, must the alternative fingerprint that is set, fit to some parameters of the device specific rom and its pre-settings/props to pass safetynet properly and get 'certified device' in playstore. In this case the Huawei Nexus fingerprint seems to fit well actually. The hint to this module could be helpful to get more information about the topic I think.