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Hello again! I've been looking at the OnePlus 3T for a while now, but I didn't want to jump the gun yet.
It was a steady $500 CAD here in Canada for a 64GB and I found a 128GB OnePlus 3T that comes with 2 cases,
for $480 CAD, now, the phone has been out for almost exactly one year now and it's only now $120 off, so this
leads me to my questions, should I go ahead and purchase it? Is it still a great choice, one year later?
As long as you don't need the fake bokeh effect that a dual camera setup gives, you won't regret buying this phone.
I've had mine since April and still love it. Even though that new Pixel XL 2 is tempting, I essentially will do the same thing on both phone and can't justify the money when my 3t is still running excellent
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.... Is it still a great choice, one year later?
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Yes it is. I bought mine in December and it is one of the best purchases that I have made.
To elaborate, I have been mostly stock except for magisk root, and never faced any issues with this device. I use it for work and play, and it never disappoints. I would not change this phone except maybe for the iPhone X (but a $1000+ phone? screw that)
I came in late to the OP3/3T game and got mine in June of this year and haven't looked back since. Sure I 'want' a Pixel 2 XL but damn that price... The 3T has been amazing to me. I've got mine unlocked, using FreedomOS CE with Magisk, AdAway, Substratum (Ozone & Swift Dark), Nova Launcher with Prime & Google Companion, Google Pixel Dialer/Contacts, Google Pixel 2 Live Wallpaper and a slew of other minor things here and there. OnePlus gives you serious freedom and the devs are already pushing hard on custom O ROMs. If you're here on XDA you most likely enjoy tinkering and this phone will let you go above and beyond simply because of the great folks in the various forums and communities let alone the ease to do so because of OnePlus keeping it open.
Side note: You can get the fake bokeh effect easily by using Google Camera with a Magisk Module to fix the crash bug. Neat stuff but I just use the included OnePlus Camera myself.
How much more is the 5? I love my 3t and couldn't be happier with it.
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I came in late to the OP3/3T game and got mine in June of this year and haven't looked back since. Sure I 'want' a Pixel 2 XL but damn that price... The 3T has been amazing to me. I've got mine unlocked, using FreedomOS CE with Magisk, AdAway, Substratum (Ozone & Swift Dark), Nova Launcher with Prime & Google Companion, Google Pixel Dialer/Contacts, Google Pixel 2 Live Wallpaper and a slew of other minor things here and there. OnePlus gives you serious freedom and the devs are already pushing hard on custom O ROMs. If you're here on XDA you most likely enjoy tinkering and this phone will let you go above and beyond simply because of the great folks in the various forums and communities let alone the ease to do so because of OnePlus keeping it open.
Side note: You can get the fake bokeh effect easily by using Google Camera with a Magisk Module to fix the crash bug. Neat stuff but I just use the included OnePlus Camera myself.
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How do we get fake bokeh with Google camera? I use it and I'm not able to get it!!
srharshajava said:
How do we get fake bokeh with Google camera? I use it and I'm not able to get it!!
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It's called Lens Blur
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It's called Lens Blur
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Lena blur is not potrait mode!!
3T is still a great phone whose specs are being duplicated by major manufacturers.
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Lena blur is not potrait mode!!
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No it's not, it's a fake bokeh effect. It's not all that great, but it's all we have if using Google Camera.
FadedAssassiin said:
Hello again! I've been looking at the OnePlus 3T for a while now, but I didn't want to jump the gun yet.
It was a steady $500 CAD here in Canada for a 64GB and I found a 128GB OnePlus 3T that comes with 2 cases,
for $480 CAD, now, the phone has been out for almost exactly one year now and it's only now $120 off, so this
leads me to my questions, should I go ahead and purchase it? Is it still a great choice, one year later?
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You're probably going to get a lot of us fan-boy-ing about it. Do you have any questions about it in particular? As far as I'm concerned, it's the best phone I've ever had & may betray my normal cycle of purchasing phones (every 2-2.5 years) and just hold onto it.
You're super free with the software. People say it's "unbrickable" (though I just had the scariest experience of my entire custom-flashing-life of the last 7ish years, but it was resolved either way). No removable battery & expandable storage sucks dongers but that's the trend regardless. The specs are far beyond what's needed for a telephone if you ask me. The price for what you get in hardware + software freedom is craziness (in a good way).
The ONLY THING is if you really need amazing camera HARDWARE, then you should be looking at Samsung, Apple, or the new Pixels. That being said, there are many camera mods enabling you to use (on custom ROMs) the OnePlus camera, the Pixel camera with HDR+, the Snapdragon camera, and if you aren't already aware, learning how to use Manual mode can do wonders...
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You're probably going to get a lot of us fan-boy-ing about it. Do you have any questions about it in particular? As far as I'm concerned, it's the best phone I've ever had & may betray my normal cycle of purchasing phones (every 2-2.5 years) and just hold onto it.
You're super free with the software. People say it's "unbrickable" (though I just had the scariest experience of my entire custom-flashing-life of the last 7ish years, but it was resolved either way). No removable battery & expandable storage sucks dongers but that's the trend regardless. The specs are far beyond what's needed for a telephone if you ask me. The price for what you get in hardware + software freedom is craziness (in a good way).
The ONLY THING is if you really need amazing camera HARDWARE, then you should be looking at Samsung, Apple, or the new Pixels. That being said, there are many camera mods enabling you to use (on custom ROMs) the OnePlus camera, the Pixel camera with HDR+, the Snapdragon camera, and if you aren't already aware, learning how to use Manual mode can do wonders...
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I am just looking for a speedier phone than I have right now, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which I am sure is a definite night and day difference in performance, the OnePlus 3T caught my eye back in February, and the price seemed quite good for such a stunning phone. I do have a few questions, how do you rate the fingerprint sensor? Is it fast or super fast, compared to maybe a iPhone 6S or 7, but that might be stretching it. How does the camera do at night? In a poorly lit room? Thanks for the reply!
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How much more is the 5? I love my 3t and couldn't be happier with it.
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Sorry for the late reply! The OnePlus 5 is going for $720 Canadian Dollars for the 64GB, whilst the used OnePlus 3T 128GB is going for $480 Canadian Dollars.
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I am just looking for a speedier phone than I have right now, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which I am sure is a definite night and day difference in performance, the OnePlus 3T caught my eye back in February, and the price seemed quite good for such a stunning phone. I do have a few questions, how do you rate the fingerprint sensor? Is it fast or super fast, compared to maybe a iPhone 6S or 7, but that might be stretching it. How does the camera do at night? In a poorly lit room? Thanks for the reply!
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I'm the wrong dude for both of those questions probably. I only messed with fingerprint a littttttle bit on my s5. Compared to that, OP3T is blazing fast.
For the camera, have barely used it honestly! lol Good luck!
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I am just looking for a speedier phone than I have right now, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which I am sure is a definite night and day difference in performance, the OnePlus 3T caught my eye back in February, and the price seemed quite good for such a stunning phone. I do have a few questions, how do you rate the fingerprint sensor? Is it fast or super fast, compared to maybe a iPhone 6S or 7, but that might be stretching it. How does the camera do at night? In a poorly lit room? Thanks for the reply!
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I am using stock OOS and the fingerprint is blazing fast.
Regarding the night camera, installing the Google modded apk is the way to go. It offers fantastic night shots.
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
Absolutely! I love it like a child. It's my baby.
I have often said to OnePlus that their customer's service should favorably compare to the phones they produce. Their customers service, in a word, is awful. It is somewhat heartening that it is getting better.
They produce a wonderful product. Their support leaves a little more time, I hope. I have never come across a situation quite like this. The quality of their products far exceeds their support. I think. in time that situation will change. They will improve or fail and that would be a shame.
XDA could learn a lesson from what I said about OnePlus. Their product is truth. Their support also leaves something to be considered.
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No it's not, it's a fake bokeh effect. It's not all that great, but it's all we have if using Google Camera.
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Portrait mode (with dual camera) is fake bokeh also. Just not as fake. It's true, the Google lens blur often results in "fuzzy" edges on the subject, or obviously fake/cheesy looking Photo-chopped effect.
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Portrait mode (with dual camera) is fake bokeh also. Just not as fake. It's true, the Google lens blur often results in "fuzzy" edges on the subject, or obviously fake/cheesy looking Photo-chopped effect.
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Yeah, it's as good as we can get with the single-lens and OP / OP3T setup. I don't use it even though it's neat for up-close 'macro' like shots, but the fakeness of it does show through most of the time. I'm saving now to get another DSLR and do love my OP3T for quick on-the-go snaps. It is good for that, the picture quality is leaps above most phones out there, and for it's price point, not really anything to compare to it.
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Not literally, no. But "portrait mode" is just an Apple baloney marketing name for "fake bokeh effect". Now every phone manufacturer feels like they need dual camera and "portrait mode" (which I'm sure Apple is suing them for using that name). Even dual camera is just software trickery (in conjunction with dual camera) to fake a bokeh effect that will never be possible with the focal length of a smartphone camera.
Obviously, you won't get the exact same effect as a phone that has dual camera (OP5, iPhone plus, etc.).
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Is it still a great choice, one year later?
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Back to the original question: I would say YES it's still a great phone.
I was unimpressed with the OP5, with its mostly incremental improvements, and the "jelly effect". We've actually seen a number of folks on this forum, looking to get a new phone, and opting for the 3T instead of the 5.
Of course there are other, impressive options (Pixel 2, Galaxy S8) with their own pros and cons. But of course they are quite expensive, and don't measure up to the shear value of the 3T; with its combination of build quality, value, and dev community here on XDA.
I don't find myself yearning for the "latest and greatest" phone yet. Maybe next year. The 3T is holding it's own quite well, and still a very solid and capable device.
Nokia 8 is available for INR 28k. So is it worth buying considering SD835 and camera quality or is there any better option ?
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Nokia 8 is available for INR 28k. So is it worth buying considering SD835 and camera quality or is there any better option ?
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As of the locked bootloader, issues with obtaining root and maintaining updates from OTA at the same time and lack of custom roms I would rather choose Pocophone F1 nowdays. The battery is also smaller on this one and ONLY advantage of N8 over F1 is the camera from Carl Zeiss.
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. The battery is also smaller on this one and ONLY advantage of N8 over F1 is the camera from Carl Zeiss.
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And at Amazon, the Nokia 8 is £100 cheaper than the Pocophone, I'd say that was a good advantage
I'm guessing you can get the Pocophone F1 or Honor Play for similar or less money in India? I'd seriously consider those (I own a Nokia 8 but if I was buying today I'd probably look elsewhere)
I haven't got any issue on OTA updates so I would always recommend Nokia 8. It hasn't give me any problem issue either, not even with Bluetooth as some people had wrote. I'm pleased with the camera quality, stock Nokia camera is decent enough, but if you want better post processing image to obtain better picture quality and really good HDR+ option you can install Google camera posted here in some thread. Another good option is installing open camera app from playstore, with it I can set up 4k at 60fps and it does record video without any crush. I haven't check on PC about if it's really recording at those parameters though.
Another plus that I believe is build quality. Nokia has been always outstanding in that department. I don't know about pocophone's build quality, nor endurance durability. So I can't say if it is good or bad. But I can surely say Nokia is better, no doubt. Lol
But of course, if you want better performance in paper I would recommend you pocophone, as it has the latest snapdragon processor and RAM I think (?).
I picked mine up at the beginning of August and don't regret the purchase at all. The camera issues are exaggerated - isn't great in low light, but it's pretty decent in normal light. To be honest if you want a really good camera you still need to buy a proper camera, but as phones go it's not terrible. The processor is more than up to most jobs. It's really nicely built - solid and with a decent metal back. At current prices you're getting a near top-end phone at mid-level prices.
don't go
, i bought Nokia 8 on very first day launch in india. it has image retention and heating issues.
only advantage is camera 2 api enabled by default.
so it can able to run gcam mode.
rather i would suggest go with mi a2 for overall all same stock experience with great camera and large aperture 1.75 with sony sensor. it would be joy to use gcam mode with this setup.
don't go with poco f1, display issues and camera is just worst and not even comparable to 2 year old mi5.
I have dual sim Nokia 8 and screen, looks like, shape of metal, plastics and screen is better than any Xiami phone ever. Nokia 8 is a top model of fashion for almost all mobile phones made it until now. It is really worth to buy in October too!
For me no heating problems, or any other. Camera with google or other aps are ok.
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Just bought one so I hope so...
For the price nothing seems to compare now spec wise, I've got a 950xl that has some kind of weird power draw issue which has forced my hand to finally ditch windows phone.
Sadly instore the Nakia 7.1 instantly took a better picture but I found I hard to spend more money on a 'lesser' phone, hoping the updates and different camera make it better!
I personally really like the style on the Nokia, I was considering the oneplus but then for the difference in price for what you get, is it really worth spending over double? I was set on buying a P20 Pro, but photos didn't seem to compare to the 950xl (tried them side by side instore) and I learnt very quickly that I really hate the 'notch' at the top, figured if I'm settling might as well get a pretty phone, considering what else you can get with the same specs seems to be double the price at least in the UK so far i'm happy. and I've saved a fortune by not buying the P20 Pro
Don't buy any Nokia device if you want install custom ROM and or flash custom recovery.
HMD isn't Nokia!
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I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.
I agree. Camera is not bad. Also, it is not awesome but successful enough. I see the reality of colours is definitely good. I don't like to see fake and stupid colors in my pictures. It still worths to buy at the moment.
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I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.
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Now with unlocked bootloader you have a masterpiece in nokia 8. Good camera imo, very good radios - bluetooth connects to anything... Go for it
IMO the best Device in Years. Even w/o Root/BLU Android One is damn cool, I won't buy any Phone without One anymore. And having a 1/8" Jack which doens't suck (Compared to Sony's is Great), the SD Card Slot I can't live without having Hundreds of Gigabtes of Lossless Music, 16:9 but with Hardware Button seems more sensefull than 18:9 bc Videos still are 16:9 anyway, I still prefer IPS over OLED due to Burn-Ins... I haven't been Disappointed yet!
DO NOT BUY POCO F1. Im actually poco user and want to switch to this. Tons of bugs and problem that they still not fix after 1 months of release. there also screen bleeding issue, multitouch issue, weird audio issue while using headset while playing game and ugly notch. Stay away from poco
Edit : also MIUI is very bad OS. Tons of bloatware and they even put ads on anything like file manager or the weather widget. Its just soo annoying.
One more thing worth noted custom rom isnt really friendly now on xiaomi devices because they are putting anti rollback which will hard brick your device.
Just buy nokia because android one is far better.
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IMO the best Device in Years. Even w/o Root/BLU Android One is damn cool, I won't buy any Phone without One anymore. And having a 1/8" Jack which doens't suck (Compared to Sony's is Great), the SD Card Slot I can't live without having Hundreds of Gigabtes of Lossless Music, 16:9 but with Hardware Button seems more sensefull than 18:9 bc Videos still are 16:9 anyway, I still prefer IPS over OLED due to Burn-Ins... I haven't been Disappointed yet!
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Just buy nokia because android one is far better.
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Nokia 8 is not part of the android one program.
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Nokia 8 is not part of the android one program.
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Damn. Just looked it up, ur right.
But still, stock is clean as ****.
With the Bootloader officially unlockable there's another reason to go Nokia 8...
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Damn. Just looked it up, ur right.
But still, stock is clean as ****.
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Atleast it close to stock google and so it almost identically same nonetheless except the late pie update
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I've just bought the missus one, £250 with a 2 year warranty is a no brainer, you could pay more for a Moto G6 Plus and get Pie and the odd security update in about 18 months if you are lucky.
The camera isn't as bad as people seem to get rather heated about, it is a bit crap in low light but for most situations it is fine.
I have had mine 11 months and it has been nothing other than great.
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I've just bought one of these too, £259 John Lewis and I think it's a bargain. I bought it as my Moto G LTE needed to be retired and I was going to go for a Moto G6 but when I saw this it was too good a bargain to refuse. I agree with you about Moto's not so good update policy. So far so good with the Nokia 8 and it ticks all my boxes, never use a phone cam for anything other than the odd snap or car bump, I've a DSLR for proper photography so a phone cam never really enters the equation.
Are there any things your not happy with since changing. I've been having weird instances with my new note9. Things just dont seem as smooth. And doesn't seem to work as smooth in some apps. I find sky bet Facebook and Google me 3 most used apps dont seem to function properly
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Are there any things your not happy with since changing. I've been having weird instances with my new note9. Things just dont seem as smooth. And doesn't seem to work as smooth in some apps. I find sky bet Facebook and Google me 3 most used apps dont seem to function properly
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I've had the OnePlus 5, 5T, 6, Note 8,9.
The note 9 will always feel slower than OnePlus 6, 6T. OnePlus is always the fastest android phone on the market, is pure android with very few modifications.
The only phone that's that fast is iPhone.
Note 9 will have Samsung app plus carrier apps on top. Plus it has all the S Pen functionality, all these things will slow it down a bit.
My daily driver is Note 9 atm, it feels more complete with S Pen (that I use), one of the best cameras in the business, IP68 and wireless charging.
Apps should work fine, I would recommend deleting their data to see if that helps.
I have had them all. OP6T is by far fastest Android out there. But like geronamo, N9 is my daily driver for work.
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I have owned most of the last four OnePlus devices and I still have my 6. The One plus devices are definitely snappier in opening apps, the ability to keep all apps in memory is preferable. Battery life is very good. PIE is super quick on the OnePlus.
I wish Samsung would release a Google Edition, stripped Android with the Samsung Camera and Spen controls.
The N9600 has the far superior screen (dimensions and colors), the audio is better (speakers and headphone jack output), camera is significantly better, battery life is easily all day. The Spen...is bananas, the remote control function is worth every penny. Also the wireless charging is great.
OnePlus has more applicable bands, especially the 6T, if you run a US carrier.
Development on the OnePlus side, but WETA's rom really makes this device fly, if you plan to root. So I'd call that even, unless you are a flashaholic.
The N9600 price is under $700...I don't think the OnePlus offers enough $$ break, to sacrifice all that the Note 9 offers anymore. OnePlus has increased the price too much.
Oneplus, Xiaomi, Apple, Samsung... We are talking about phones, just phones, nothing essential for life, why people take a lot of time just to decide a phone purchase?
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Oneplus, Xiaomi, Apple, Samsung... We are talking about phones, just phones, nothing essential for life, why people take a lot of time just to decide a phone purchase?
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Because people want to know, which is the best phone for them. Which is why they ask allot of questions with regards to phones.
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Oneplus, Xiaomi, Apple, Samsung... We are talking about phones, just phones, nothing essential for life, why people take a lot of time just to decide a phone purchase?
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Dont believe anyone was questioning about buying the phone. I have had the Note9 for about 1 1/2 months its actual usage I've had problems with. Things not working as I expect things not loading properly or opening as expected. Etc
migrated from OnePlus 3T
miss the stock gestures of Oxygen, tried a few from play store with Note 9 but none are as slick as OP..Switching on / off torch , taking screenshots was such a breeze in OP.
Also using Note 9 feels like your using a vintage phone, OP was more fast and OS UI better. let me give you an example - u switch on BT on note 9 and unless u click done ( thou the pairing is automatic say with my music system or car ) the box wont close unless u click done. what a waste of effort. There are many more such examples.Cant understand why Samsung makes their OS experience such a dull affair. .
Hi community,
My current phone is slowly dying, so I have been researching actual 2018 phones. Since I like the idea of using dual-sim-cards (private & business), a lot of phones out there had to go by the board and only a few remained. I have always been a HTC fanboy, but I'm open for new things, so the P20 Pro and the Mate 20 Pro have caught my eye.
After reading through countless comparison reviews and articles, I understood that the Mate 20 Pro was the slightly better of the two and I really was all stoked to buy it when suddenly I stumbled across that display 'Gluegate' problem that has befallen most phones that are currently circulating on the market.
Since I really do not like the idea of paying 1000€ only to get a phone that I can sign up for repair immediately after, I've become hesitant about buying it now. The more I keep reading on here or similar blogs, the longer the list of negative aspects about the Mate 20 Pro seems to get.
I could look at a demo in a local store nearby and while it is really big compared to my actual HTC M9, that's something I could probably get used to. However, I found that notch super annoying. You may be able to disable it in the settings, but that still doesn't give you more space for icons in the tray. It seems as if only 3 or 4 icons fit in the tray above because that stupid notch is physically blocking the space. Will I still receive notifications from apps whose icon won't fit in the tray because it's full due to the notch?
In terms of camera quality: is the Mate 20 Pro significantly better/suprerior to the P20 Pro? I could get the P20 Pro for nearly hafl the price now and at the moment I'm totally not sure if I'm ready to pay 1000 bucks for the Mate 20 Pro with a faulty display, a way too small tray bar and with people complaining about pre-developed UI like EMUI and supposedly mediocre camera quality...
Can anyone relate to this? If you were me and about to get a new phone, would you get the Mate 20 Pro?
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My current phone is slowly dying, so I have been researching actual 2018 phones. Since I like the idea of using dual-sim-cards (private & business), a lot of phones out there had to go by the board and only a few remained. I have always been a HTC fanboy, but I'm open for new things, so the P20 Pro and the Mate 20 Pro have caught my eye.
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Can anyone relate to this? If you were me and about to get a new phone, would you get the Mate 20 Pro?
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Which part do you need ?
Photo ? Please choose p20pro because Huawei don't tell us mate20pro oxdmark point.
Battery life? P20pro or m20pro is same.
Price. Oneplus 6 or oneplus 6t.
I will choose p20pro.
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Which part do you need ?
Photo ? Please choose p20pro because Huawei don't tell us mate20pro oxdmark point.
Battery life? P20pro or m20pro is same.
Price. Oneplus 6 or oneplus 6t.
I will choose p20pro.
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Nope, P20 Pro has a smaller battery, the battery life is not the same on both.
Ignore the DXOMark, that has long since been a useless and irrelevant benchmark for imaging.
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Nope, P20 Pro has a smaller battery, the battery life is not the same on both.
Ignore the DXOMark, that has long since been a useless and irrelevant benchmark for imaging.
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M20pro screen fingerprints and 3d consume a lot of power, if you turn off fingerprint recognition, there will be more power. The mate 20 pro plan to uses 5000. Because it can't support 40 watts to change 4200.
I have the p20pro.
Great phone as I'm sure the mate is too. Both crippled by the worst possible development and bootloader lock down I've ever seen.
Anyone who knew about the p20pro shambles who goes ahead and buys a mate pro should expect a locked down system and no development at all.
Bare in mind that the p20pro barely had a functional twrp and little to no sign of pie recovery or root method in sight, meaning stick with Oreo and have root or have pie and nothing, if you have the mate then you are out of luck.
Nor a good time for Android / modding at all..
Avoid both and buy the McLaren 6T.
Had the same dilemma a few weeks back. Mate 20 Pro or P20 Pro to replace my previous Mate 10. Ended up with the Mate 20 Pro and trust me when I tell you that the Mate 20 Pro's Kirin 980 is so much faster than the P20 Pro's Kirin 970 which is the same SOC of the Mate 10. Mate 20 Pro is a true beast and camera is outstanding while battery life is great even better than the Mate 10.
Get a P20P. I owned both, "upgraded" to the Mate when it came out in Singapore. I regret that decision. The Mate is a nice piece of hardware, but I ultimately feel it wasn't worth the price and a downgrade from the P20P.
Why P20P?
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
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Not for me. Came from the Mate 10 then to the Mate 20 Pro and cam is faster to focus and load with the Mate 20 Pro. Mate 10 and P20 Pro uses the same ISP from the same SOC.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
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Face unlock for me is great and faster than the face unlock feature of the Mate 10 which uses the same tech as the P20 Pro. I can unlock the phone using 3D Face Unlock even at low light something which I can barely do on the Mate 10 at dim lighting conditions.
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
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So does every Android phone with the notch so no big deal for me.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
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Kirin 980 on the Mate 20 Pro is no joke coming from the Kirin 970 of the Mate 10. Everything else is faster, smoother and its like you can do any task a lot faster than on any Android smartphone as of this time.
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I have the p20pro.
Great phone as I'm sure the mate is too. Both crippled by the worst possible development and bootloader lock down I've ever seen.
Anyone who knew about the p20pro shambles who goes ahead and buys a mate pro should expect a locked down system and no development at all.
Bare in mind that the p20pro barely had a functional twrp and little to no sign of pie recovery or root method in sight, meaning stick with Oreo and have root or have pie and nothing, if you have the mate then you are out of luck.
Nor a good time for Android / modding at all..
Avoid both and buy the McLaren 6T.
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The McLaren 6T, which is the most bizarre marketing push in history? Why would you want to have some sort of tie in with a company who is primarily known for failure over the last few years? But that is irrelevant - at the end of the day, rooting is a niche activity. Sure, some people make use of it, but most of the users really don't care that much.
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The McLaren 6T, which is the most bizarre marketing push in history? Why would you want to have some sort of tie in with a company who is primarily known for failure over the last few years? But that is irrelevant - at the end of the day, rooting is a niche activity. Sure, some people make use of it, but most of the users really don't care that much.
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The design of the phone is superb.
Warp charge is amazing.
I like the orange it's brilliant.
Mclaren make the best cars in the world in my opinion and many others.
It's half the price of a competing phone, ie: S10 / Phone XS
At this point in time it is the best phone there is, for development, for speed, for charging, for design, for many things.
Not to mention 10GB of RAM.
Comparing the Pro or the Mate to any Oneplus phone is futile, owners of either phone are going to give delusional comments about the opposite phone.
Personally as a user of XDA and a long time ROM flasher since the G1 days, i honestly couldn't have a phone without root and without removing the shackles which essentially turns it into a cheap iPhone clone.
That's my opinion, which the OP had asked for.
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Get a P20P. I owned both, "upgraded" to the Mate when it came out in Singapore. I regret that decision. The Mate is a nice piece of hardware, but I ultimately feel it wasn't worth the price and a downgrade from the P20P.
Why P20P?
Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.
Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..
Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.
What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.
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I disagree with all of this. You must have a faulty mate device.
The face unlock and fingerprint unlock on mine work 100% of the time, without fail. You have to enrol them properly and with the fingerprint, press hard on the screen.
As for photos, mine takes the shot immediately with every click, zero shutter lag, every single time UNLESS its night and you have AI on as it likes to sharpen the photo after you take it. Mostly this is just processing. Press the shutter 3 4 5 times and every photo, once processed, is available blur free.
I see notifications, all you have to do is make the battery percentage inside the icon, and turn off the network name. It's not hard to work this stuff out if you know anything about phones.
As for the P20 pro... it's slow, laggy, takes worse photos, screen wakes super slowly in sun due to some auto brightness issue, battery life is sub par, it doesn't fill the screen properly in apps like instagram.. less water resistant. Only thing the P20 pro does better is the speakers. No 4k stabilisation, awful video quality overall. Terrible graphics chip.
Mate 20 Pro all the way. Even with nonsense misinformation spread around.
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I disagree with all of this. You must have a faulty mate device.
The face unlock and fingerprint unlock on mine work 100% of the time, without fail. You have to enrol them properly and with the fingerprint, press hard on the screen.
As for photos, mine takes the shot immediately with every click, zero shutter lag, every single time UNLESS its night and you have AI on as it likes to sharpen the photo after you take it. Mostly this is just processing. Press the shutter 3 4 5 times and every photo, once processed, is available blur free.
I see notifications, all you have to do is make the battery percentage inside the icon, and turn off the network name. It's not hard to work this stuff out if you know anything about phones.
As for the P20 pro... it's slow, laggy, takes worse photos, screen wakes super slowly in sun due to some auto brightness issue, battery life is sub par, it doesn't fill the screen properly in apps like instagram.. less water resistant. Only thing the P20 pro does better is the speakers. No 4k stabilisation, awful video quality overall. Terrible graphics chip.
Mate 20 Pro all the way. Even with nonsense misinformation spread around.
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First, (fan)boy are you triggered much..
Second, my experience stands and foam around your mouth doesn't change that. It's also a subjective thing, so "correcting" my recommendation is silly. The OP wants opinions, mine isn't worse than yours.
Third, I know a thing or two about phones. Nice slight, nice try.
Fourth.. see attachment. There's space for exactly one icon, whether you like it or not, "expert" phone tips not relevant.
I recommend the P20P.
P20 pro takes worse photos my A$$!!
The monochrome sensor still superior when it comes to photos specially in the dark environment and details in general, even the paid YouTube reviewers to braise the wide angel lense can't deny that
as for video recording both are considered the worst with the rest of Kirin powered phones. but the mate 20 pro can take stabilized bad videos in 4k.
Day to day use application both are fast specially the mate 20 with zero to small difference in speed, but games both struggle specially in future fight and PUBG.
P20 pro battery is actually lasting longer than mate 20 pro unless u switch the face recognition and in display fingerprint off, then they are similar so what's the point of them?
No gluegate stupid issue with p20 pro and half the price.
I actually had p20 pro, sold for a note 9 last August got the mate 20 pro as a second phone then back to p20 pro which I consider upgrade from the mate 20
As much as I love this phone, I hate it just as much. Do yourself a favour and get something with a Snapdragon processor and something that can be bootloader unlocked. Pixel or a One Plus. Even consider the Xiaomi if it's price you're after.
Warp charge is amazing.
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Warp charge gets smoked by Huawei's 40W Supercharge:https://www.gsmarena.com/warp_charge_30_vs_other_fast_charging_standards_-news-34697.php
https://youtu.be/UxlWYzrZweM
Day to day use application both are fast specially the mate 20 with zero to small difference in speed, but games both struggle specially in future fight and PUBG.
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Sorry but the Kirin 980 is much faster than Krin 970. I came from Mate 10 to Mate 20 Pro and I can tell the difference.
P20 pro battery is actually lasting longer than mate 20 pro unless u switch the face recognition and in display fingerprint off, then they are similar so what's the point of them?
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I highly doubt this. Using the Mate 20 Pro as the same resolution with the P20 Pro's FHD+ will definitely result into better battery life in favor of the Mate 20 Pro.
No gluegate stupid issue with p20 pro and half the price.
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Fyi, not all units are affected so please do not generalize. Half the price where is that mate? In my area there is a USD 200 price difference and even 2nd hand units of the P20 Pro won't be half the value of the Mate 20 Pro.
I actually had p20 pro, sold for a note 9 last August got the mate 20 pro as a second phone then back to p20 pro which I consider upgrade from the mate 20
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Sorry mate but that is a downgrade to the max. Slower processor, lower resolution, slower charging, etc. Don't get me wrong, the P20 Pro is a great device but its about 8 months old in the market already. No need to disrespect and bash Mate 20 Pro users if you don't like it please. Thanks!
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Yea I'm not buying that.
The McLaren is a beast of a device. Comparing it to any phone, not just a Huawei.
More to the point.
Why on earth would anyone support that regime??
They have absolutely gone against android in every way, not only that but every single developer will avoid them like the plague.
You want to buy into that?? Be my guest, you'll be one of few.
Enjoy ads, bloat, no ROMs, no mods, no bootloader unlocking, no root, no magisk mods, no AOSP, no kernels.
The pro has some but once pie becomes mainstream, root and twrp are out.
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Yea I'm not buying that.
The McLaren is a beast of a device. Comparing it to any phone, not just a Huawei.
More to the point.
Why on earth would anyone support that regime??
They have absolutely gone against android in every way, not only that but every single developer will avoid them like the plague.
You want to buy into that?? Be my guest, you'll be one of few.
Enjoy ads, bloat, no ROMs, no mods, no bootloader unlocking, no root, no magisk mods, no AOSP, no kernels.
The pro has some but once pie becomes mainstream, root and twrp are out.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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Totally agree, I came to XDA because most people here did.
But less and less are. Plus the OEMs are making it harder.
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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.
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My wife and some friends have stock and they get by so they're functional. But there are too many benefits to ignore root
FYI, you can also hide icons on the status bar by using 3rd app such as SystemUItuner. You can make 2 empty slots at least. That's enough for me.
I hate this type of question, 1 or 2? Most of the people asking neither buy the products they ask for others opinion.. Lol
So alot of people (especially in the UK) will be coming to the end of contract and life cycle on the p20. The question is....what next.
Do we go p40 without Google services or look at something different?
Iv loved the p20, it's been reliable and solid, but I'm a Google loyalist. I use the services and apps and the idea of losing apps iv paid for already on Google play just seems a step to far.
Iv found updates painfully slow to arrive through O2, months and months behind. So definitely an unlocked from carrier handset next.
But what one?
Samsung
One Plus
Or something completely different?
I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.
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I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.
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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.
If you want updates to your phone, you have 2 choices. Iphone or pixel.
OnePlus is super easy to unlock the bootloader and will not void the warranty. Then just use lineageOS.
I had enough of of the Huawei software. I was expecting Android 10 by now, but nothings been said about that release for a while now.
Add locked bootloaders and no development, made a rather boring phone. It was the only Android phone I've ever had which didn't even get a working TWRP after 2 years!
I went for the Pixel 4XL yesterday, and I'm very happy with it. Bootloader unlocked, rooted and GPay working fine
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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.
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Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!
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Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!
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According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.
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According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.
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If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.
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If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.
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It's supposed to be splash proof. Regular mi 10 has bigger battery but pro version has better camera.
If you care about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.
I've never owned Xiaomi and frankly speaking I am bit curious, especially that this year they claim they won't compete with other flagships with price factor only. I guess I'll order it online, use it and return it within 14 days if I don't like it. Samsung is not an option to me as I want a handset with SD 865 and my region is "blessed" with their Exynos. Pixel is overpriced on the other hand and designwise...just horrible. I'd rather go for OP if their quality check is improved this year.
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If you case about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.
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I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?
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I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?
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True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.
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True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.
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I'm sure you're right about previous releases. Thank you for your feedback. It's good to hear some critical voice before the final decision is made. However there are already camera comparisons between mi 10 pro and s20 ultra and these pics/videos looks pretty good. Mi 10 pro camera is supposed to be revolutionary and able to compete with other flagships. Well we'll see.
Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.
Why do you need to upgrade? I'm holding off here in the UK until 5G becomes a reality and decent phones are available. New phones for 2020 so far (and into the Q2) don't really offer anything above what I currently have hardware wise. The phone works fine for me, battery lasts > 1 day even after 2 years.
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Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.
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I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee
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I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee
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I am with EE, by far the best in London, Liverpool and Manchester for all the places I visit, getting expensive now but that fits perfectly for me...
What gives you the idea that EE will have the OnePlus , as in the new one?
That is the one I want.
For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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Honestly for me so long as ois is on the camera and it's got "some" development, the screen is 90hz or over..I'm in.
The rest is a bonus.
Oh and I miss that DND hardware switch
Apparently waterproofing, wireless charging is all on its way.
My only problem will be the price if they're all added, personally I couldn't care less about wireless charging, not when it idles so well and charges as fast as it does..maybe if I started using it I'd become a fan but I can't see it at the moment.
Time will tell.
Plus if they don't have the 8 pro on my carrier I ain't getting it lol.