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For those wondering about using a power bank to charge their OP3

One of the big concerns I had with the proprietary Dash Charging system is whether I'd be able to use previously purchased power banks.
I've been testing my OP3 with the RAVPower 26800mAh powerbank along with the Anker USB-C to USB 2.0 cable.
The powerbank is capable of outputting 2.4a, which produces a quick charge on other devices.
On the OP3, I get between 30 and 57% charge / h (measured using the Battery Monitor Widget app), which is acceptable to me.
It's not Dash Charging speed, but it'll work in case you were wondering.

MI Charger
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.

quote from Android central
"For the first time, OnePlus is including a fast charging system on the OnePlus 3. Rather than go with another standard like Qualcomm's Quick Charge, OnePlus made its own "Dash Charge" system. Dash Charge promises a 60% charge on your OnePlus 3 in just 30 minutes, which is just as fast as any other system — the only catch here is you'll have to use the Dash Charger in the box and the included cable.
Your OnePlus 3 will charge just fine off of other chargers — whether they're Quick Charge 3.0, Nexus Rapid Charge or something else — but you just won't get Dash Charge speeds."

I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Seemed like a good choice as outputting 3.6A would be good enough for me. Would you be able to point me a link where to purchase it from? Many thanks.

are you sure the 3.6a isnt a maximum of all the ports on the bank?
usually if they have multiple ports they say a maximum load for all being X, but I've only ever seen a maximum amperage of 2.4a on a port (few and far between) most 2.1a as stated per port.
even then they charge my OP3 at 1.2a using oneplus's cable, same as my s5 beforehand.
there is a great app on the store called Ampere which tells you your current charging/discharging amps

superbrowndude said:
I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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and ?? whats the verdict ?

It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Link to that powerbank please

Framedtrash said:
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Check my post on another thread,
You can use OPPO VOOC Powerbank,
It charge as fast as at least 3.5A

It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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Hastaloego said:
and ?? whats the verdict ?
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Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result

Framedtrash said:
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.

OP3 is only able to charge at 1.5A max with everything except the dash charger and cable, from my tests.

BoiBundy said:
No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
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No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time

crzykiller said:
No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
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Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3

What's the easiest way to test what amperage a non-Dash charger is charging at? I'm curious to know if some of my Quick Charge adapters will provide 2.4A. I've only done a very brief test with my QC3 car charger, but it gave me 3% in about 4 minutes. That's about what I was getting on a QC2.0 phone, and that's perfectly acceptable in my books.

BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Huh? that's my first comment lol and VOOC and DASH are exactly the same technology and have their specific patent. As far as I know, it will only charge with those specific chargers since it is not only the charging brick holding some proprietary charging solution but also the cable. I have a USB-C cable that can withstand over 4A but will not work even when plugged to the DASH charger. Now yes there may be a charger that quick charges this phone but it'd be very unlikely that it does exist since the cable and brick would have to have the exact specifications as the DASH/VOOC chargers.

BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Haha
As stated VOOC and DASH are the exact same thing, VOOC was created by OPPO and the rebranded by oneplus
No amount of software is going to change a hardware limitation
I guess your going to tell me that a dev is going to release a software patch that restores the headphone jack on a iPhone
Download ampere from the playstore if you want to get a rough idea of what your device is charging at
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fp1707 said:
Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
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Same question. Really interested in the Oneplus Power Bank charging results. Please.

[Q] Charger safe for use?

I have an old quick charge 2.0 car and wall charger. I know they won't work with dash but I'm just double checking to make sure they're safe and won't damage my OP3T. Seeing as how the phone accepts 4a (I think) I'm pretty sure 2.4 in will be fine. Thanks in advance!

same Q, I have a QC 2.0 and normal charger, not sure if putting 2.0 or normal charge apart from the dash charge?

It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.

supersomething said:
It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
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What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?

rockmaster said:
What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
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If I am not mistaken, most of the newer usb cables are rated at 2.1-2.4A for charging. But if you want to be safe I would suggest you take notice of what the cables are rated at. For me personally, I always follow the rules of not using lower rated cables on higher rated input.

Any high quality charger will work just fine with OnePlus, although Dash Charge will turn on ONLY will OnePlus/OPPO dash charger and official USB cable. So you are limited to lower (non dash charge) speed.
QC 1/2/3, Turbo charge, Super charge, Dash charge.. adapters are safe to use with any phone, fast charging will not engage if the phone doesnt support it.
I recommend checking this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0

Cool beans, sounds like I'm good to go. I'm using whatever cable the charger came with and a USB C adapter from Aukey. Works just fine! Not really too concerned about dash charge since it's sitting bedside or in the car for road trips. Thanks!

so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge

karthics4 said:
so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
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Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.

I use my 6 ft Nexus 6P charger as my primary and in my car I have my iOrange cable with a Maxboost 2.0 & 2.4 car charger
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trentonite said:
Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
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Thanks so much, had been w android for years, might go otherside and get iphone as i see a lot at work. i just feel left out. but then i think of the deadly iphone not charging due to 3rd party cable mesage which pops up and then wanna stay w andorid

Quick charge 3.0

Hey guys. Just got my mi max 2 with the xiaomi charger but only getting around 1450mAh a hour.. Nowhere near dash charge from one plus 3t (3600mAh).
I use ampere app to measure.. I also tried Aukey certified QC 3.0 charger but also not getting anywhere near 3000 mAh
What charger do you use to achieve quick charge?

I've bought a Anker power port anr cable. I'll test it out soon...
But the 2.5 hour charge with the original charger isn't that. I mean, with such a big battery could of been longer.

TiMbl4 said:
I've bought a Anker power port anr cable. I'll test it out soon...
But the 2.5 hour charge with the original charger isn't that. I mean, with such a big battery could of been longer.
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Aukey doesn't work for me and original charger with cable also doesn't work..

mi charge , 5V 3A

Used the original mi charger and cable. 17% to 100% in 1 hrs 45 minutes

Post your charging time (5v2A, QC3, QC4)

I ordered an A2 and a QC 3 wall charger, I'm considering also a car charger, but seems not that needed.
Please tellme... About your Chargint times (Half/Full) on basic wall 5V2A Chager, and QuickCharge 3.0/4.0 chargers, also on car chargers as well
Also, Does anyone tried an iPad charger?

On QC 2.0/3.0 ? form 10% to 100% - around 1h 10m ( not sure abot QC version but was fast charging icon )

I was measuring charging time with stock charger, here are my results:
Greetings everyone,
I have charged my phone with stock charger that came with it, by the way I have global version. 5V=2A)
After a 30 minutes my phone was at 54% i was surprised with percentage!
After an hour I had 92% of battery charged.
Battery fully charged at 1:13.
I want to ask, how fast would battery charge if I use QC v4.0?
Thank you in advance,
DarkoMiA2, :fingers-crossed: Bosnia

Got mine today. I don't have any qc. But have mi power bank which have qc 3.0 capability. I am using but phone doesn't show any quick charge indicator. Is it normal?

I can't find the link to buy a QC 4 charger(I'm from India). I can't find anyone who has actually used snd tested the device with QC 4 either.

HashDragon said:
I can't find the link to buy a QC 4 charger(I'm from India). I can't find anyone who has actually used snd tested the device with QC 4 either.
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As of now there are no QC 4.0 charger in market... It'll take couple of months before they get on shelves for sales.. Till then use QC 3.0 or stock charger.
PS, or you can buy mi 3i power bank, it has QC 3.0 capabilites and when QC 4.0 chargers hit the market you can buy one of those too..so then you will have a power bank and a QC 4.0 charger...

veeru1saini1 said:
As of now there are no QC 4.0 charger in market... It'll take couple of months before they get on shelves for sales.. Till then use QC 3.0 or stock charger.
PS, or you can buy mi 3i power bank, it has QC 3.0 capabilites and when QC 4.0 chargers hit the market you can buy one of those too..so then you will have a power bank and a QC 4.0 charger...
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I actually can't find a link for mi 3i power bank or qc 3.0 wall charger either
BTW, Do you have any idea about the charging % that we can expect out of qc 4.0 in future?

HashDragon said:
I actually can't find a link for mi 3i power bank or qc 3.0 wall charger either
BTW, Do you have any idea about the charging % that we can expect out of qc 4.0 in future?
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For qc 3.0 wall charger https://www.flipkart.com/syska-qual...STACCEWVGWSNPZFFXWIGNAZQ&marketplace=FLIPKART
MI 2i power bank
Correction it's 2i actually... Mi 10000mAH Li-Polymer Power Bank 2i (Black) https://www.amazon.in/dp/B077RV8CCY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fFIGBbWDW603N
About qc 4.0 improvement, no idea as there is no charger as of now even in international market..
Edit : quick tip, never but cheap 3.0 chargers found on Amazon (quantum zero, geekzone.. etc)

Which USB C Wall Charger Safe for Pixel 4XL

Hi Guys,
Need your advice, which of the below two Wall Charger is "safe" for Pixel 4XL ?
with the power voltage 61W vs 30W difference.
USB Wall Charger, RAVPower 61W Type C PD 3.0 Power Adapter, Dual Port USB C Wall Charger
amazon.com/Charger-RAVPower-Adapter-Compatible-MacBook/dp/B07PLR7T1M?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1
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USB C Wall Charger, RAVPower 30W PD 3.0 [GaN Tech] Type C Fast Charging Power Delivery Foldable Adapter，
amazon.com/RAVPower-Charging-Delivery-Foldable-Adapter%EF%BC%8CCompatible/dp/B07T7M2799?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1
Many Thanks!

rickosw said:
Hi Guys,
Need your advice, which of the below two Wall Charger is "safe" for Pixel 4XL ?
with the power voltage 61W vs 30W difference.
USB Wall Charger, RAVPower 61W Type C PD 3.0 Power Adapter, Dual Port USB C Wall Charger
amazon.com/Charger-RAVPower-Adapter-Compatible-MacBook/dp/B07PLR7T1M?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1
or
USB C Wall Charger, RAVPower 30W PD 3.0 [GaN Tech] Type C Fast Charging Power Delivery Foldable Adapter，
amazon.com/RAVPower-Charging-Delivery-Foldable-Adapter%EF%BC%8CCompatible/dp/B07T7M2799?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1
Many Thanks!
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Either one should be safe. Both list 5v3a however neither have 9v2a so it could be just slightly slower than stock but definitely faster than wireless or an old 5v2a charger.
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Just make sure you have a USB-C complaint cable and you'll be fine.

As long as the voltage is correct, you can send devices more watts than they require. All electrical devices only draw the watts they need. So if your charger supplies 100 watts, but the phone only needs 5 watts, it will only use 5 watts and be perfectly safe.

zetsumeikuro said:
... Just make sure you have a complaint cable ...
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It seems every cable I buy from Amazon is one of those

Any wall charger support PD. I have wall charger 27W but not work good with the Pixel not charge fast
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hello was wonderin if it's safe to use my samsung 45w wall charger to pixel 4 xl?

zetsumeikuro said:
Just make sure you have a USB-C complaint cable and you'll be fine.
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The last 3 pixel models have all had "USB-C complaint cable" issues with fastboot...
Sorry I couldn't help myself. Lol

CyberpodS2 said:
The last 3 pixel models have all had "USB-C complaint cable" issues with fastboot...
Sorry I couldn't help myself. Lol
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Was there another issue besides fastboot not being reconogized when using certain cables and charging safety etc?