Hello.
If I wanted to use the phone to draw with a pen as if I had a digitizer tablet...
What type of pen would I need?
I guess the Mi8's screen is capacitive.
What model would you recommend?
Something accurate and not scratching the screen and that not too expensive.
Will an active stylus work with this phone?
Or do I need to stay with a digital capacitive pen?
I bought one from Aliexpress, cheaper than the expensive ones, but still 19€.
I know it doesn't say it's sensitive to pressure but I for that price I expected something able to draw with different widths.
I'm dissapointed, it's just a common pen but with a hard tip that can scratch your screen.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KIN...517.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.15e94c4do7Oxx8
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At least the two i got from ebay are! makes using some apps and stuff almost unusable, scrolling is almost impossible. I have a screen protector fitted but everything is smooth with my finger.
Anyone else have any experience with using pens?
yeah it works kind of okay when pressing (however you have to press hard sometimes.. also scrolling is indeed impossible. i bought those pens so i could play cryonphysics better but thats a no go
so i wouldnt buy stylus's for scrolling.. or maybe the expensive one's work better? i bought cheap ones from ebay.
stylus
I haven't heard of any that work very good at all! Would be interested if someone finds 1 that really works decent,, Thanks,,,Quig
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
madmackem said:
htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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Those ones are a joke as well, barely even works.
i think our device is designed for our fingers
sense is fingerfriendly, even windows explorer can be used with fingers...thanks to our huge screen
so why buying such a crap?
if there's no "cartridge" to put it in, i won't buy it
DN41
madmackem said:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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I have it, it has a plus and a downside. The downside is that scrollng is almost impossible therefore you still need to use your finger. The plus side is that the precission is astonishing. The little red dot does the job you want. You can click on listed links while browsing without zooming in and without selecting the link next to it.
Still it is not worth the 17 pounds.
Also these styli ARE Dagi styli http://www.dagi.com.tw/, since I bought one of these aswell to compare.
They are exactly the same. Same weight, material, length/width/depth etc.
So if you want to buy one. Dagi sells them for around 12 USD a piece.
I'm not able to post any pictures atm, since I'm not at home. If I am I will.
Stylus pens
No pen works very well on the HD2, so do not waste any money on buying one.
The only time you may need a pen, is if you work with gloves on, or wear gloves due to extreme cold weather and do not want to take your gloves off.
I have tried most of them as I spend a lot of time in a walk in freezer. The HTC is no better than the dagi or the cheaper versions from China sold on ebay.
I saw a video somewhere on youtube if im not wrong, it shows how you can make cheap pen for capacitive screens. You have to use and old normal pen, some wire and some conductive foam and it worked fine on the video.
Edit: I found youtube link , here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smBOaEP3ut8
Maby it will help someone who need a stylus for hd2.
Best regards. Gjizaqin
It may have to do with hardware evidenced by tests like this one. The HD2's digitizer just isn't designed to be written on in terms of polling rate and sensitivity, so it may not completely be the fault of the pens.
try a sausage... they work well, i am not joking!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObqu5CigcU&feature=related
at least its cheap...
There is a cheap stylus that works!!!
I'm not gonna recommend any particular ebay trader over any other, but I've tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
There's the HTC one with the funny flat clear plastic 'blade' thingie with the dot in the middle of the flat 'blade' to line up the bit you want to interact with. They work, but they are awful (sorry HTC, it's true, patent or no they are still awful!). And way over the top pricing! WAY over the top! C'mon HTC!
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
All those hard rubber tipped stylus out there? Junk. All those foam tipped stylus out there? More junk. Pretty looking, in fashion colours, but junk none-the-less!
This is not a paid advert for anybody whatsoever - just my experience from my extensive junk stylus collection... Must find some creative use for them all...
KennyD
I got some off ebay a while back.
Didn't work very well, at all.
Had it bookmarked but link is gone.
kennydadsl said:
tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
KennyD
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Thanks Kenny,
Your feedback is really appreciated!
capacitive pens
I have the one made by Pogo that isn't too bad. It You can do a certain amount of scrolling with it but nothing beats the finger!
has anybody purchased the HD2 stylus yet? the screen may be huge, but I miss using a stylus for texting. I have read really bad reviews, but I do want one.
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=83E47B82-89E5-4C33-95D5-84F7AE3C3F50
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I ordered these, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...849513&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2824wt_911 and will let y'all know how they work. Even if they don't, they were only $4.
i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
steve austin said:
i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
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Unfortunately, that is the problem with the capacitive screen. The so-called stylus is actually something that emulates your finger tip in terms of contact area. Personally, a very sensitive resistive screen, such as in Samsung I8000 (Omnia 2) is better than the capacitive screen if you do a lot of text work involving copying, cutting and pasting!
Having come from a long line of WinMo phones, all of which had resistive screens, I have ordered a Dell Streak based purely on its size. I am a heavy PDA user and a light phone user.
However, two of the things that I really like about the resistive screen are that (a) I can have a lot of information on the screen at any one time and click on any of it with the stylus and (b) I can use handwriting recognition for all of my text input.
I realise that a capacitive screen cannot do either of these, but I am wondering how effective the capacitive stylii that are advertised actually are.
Anybody got any experience with them?
Got one, don't use it. There may be differences in quality, the one I have works 'reasonably' well, but not well enough to use on a regular basis, it has a flat sponge type of tip.
The first one I bought from eBay turned out not to be for a capacitive screen (seller refunded without argument) so you do need to be careful.
I have one, use it often to draw on the streak. It does take a bit of getting used to, but they're accurate and feel a little more organic (because of the soft tip) than 'regular' styluses.
Got one, don't like it. It came free with some screen protectors.
I'm not sure if it's a high quality one or a cheap one (exspect branded), but I can't get on with the spongey feel of the tip.
Does anyone know of a good stylus for the Notion Ink Adam? Mine just shipped and I am thinking about getting a stylus to take notes, on the subject of notes does anyone know of a good note taking program for things like math and diagrams (for use with said stylus )
I Second that!
I have no experience with a stylus on capacitive screens at all.
You have the HTC styluses for desire Z. I'm just worried they might scratch the screen when used for writing.
Others that have like a little cushion on the tip don't seem really accurate for writing and annotating.
At NCW HTC launched its own tablet which has a pointy stylus Which should work with a capacitive screen.
It looks like the rep refers to 2 buttons on the stylus to either highlight or write/ draw. I wonder if that stylus would also work on other capacitive screens like the Adam.
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best buy sells a 20 dollar stylus by targus with a rubbery tip that doesnt scratch, its what I use.
I'm a graphic artist, so I do a whole lot of drawing and drafting. The Wacom digitizer is actually one of the main reasons I'm getting a Note 2 actually haha.
I've never used a screen protector on any of my phones, but I'd like the GN2 to be the first. The only concern I'm having is that the screen protector will interfere with the stylus' levels of pressure sensitivity while drawing and writing.
Does anyone know if this is the case?
JLG http://www.amazon.com/Just-Like-Gla...id=1354559982&sr=8-2&keywords=just+like+glass is what I use and it is the best I have ever used! No issues at all with sensitivity levels and it is actually smoother than the bare glass!
Have you noticed it affecting the pen in any way? Sensitivity to pressure?
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Have you noticed it affecting the pen in any way? Sensitivity to pressure?
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Just installed JLG as well and pen sensitivity is still as good as the stock glass.
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awesome, I'm gonna have to order one!
Just for giggles, I just tried the stylus through one of the clear cd spacers you get with a spendle of disks. Works just fine though it. I'm pretty sure as long as it's not thicker than the hover distance, a screen protector isn't going to affect the stylus.
Thanks to everyone in this thread, I had the exact same question/scenario, but couldn't find a specific enough answer.
I think the pressure sensitivity etc is all done on the s-pen end of things. If you hover the pen over the screen so the little air view circle comes up you can click the nub on the end of the pen in and it registers as a touch, and testing in s-note, line thickness varies with how hard you press the nub in. Judging by this as long as the screen protector isn't spongy or soft it should be fine.
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It won't cause problems so long as they are not too thick as to activate hover function.
(A basic overview of how it works)
The S-pen is an active digitizer. The screen actually emits a signal... the stylus has a mechanism in it that resonates with the signal. It is passive so no batteries are required in the stylus. If you notice the tip of the stylus can actually move in and out a little, this is what does the pressure sensitivity. Touching the screen causes the tip to compress a little and it actually alters how the stylus resonates the signal from the screen. More pressure means more change and the digitizer reads it.
This is also why some styluses can have a drawing and erase end. The erase end resonates differently and the digitizer can differentiate between them.
Hope that clears it up.