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So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
Stevv said:
So, now that the Nexus One is sold out of the Google store, do you think prices for very lightly used Nexus Ones on eBay will go up or down soon? Today I saw a new one sell for $560, while I see online retailers and Buy-it-nows for like $650. I just now saw a used Nexus One sell for $376 in the auction, and used ones I have seen are in the high-300s and 400s (although sometimes not all the original accessories are included). So I was thinking, the prices could go up because there is a higher demand for a limited supply of great phones, while also there may be a decrease in demand for a phone that could have a loss of support in the future. But I am basically wondering, how much different do you think the prices in the near future (maybe 1 month or so) on eBay will be than they are now?
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It depend on what other choice people have, There's quite a few android phone coming out, in the mean time I guess some people who have the $$ will pay high price to get what they want
my advice is to not buy a Nexus One.
The nexus one is a great phone, totally worth the price and options and if you have your mind set on one, dont let anyone tell you different. However, its being a little outdone by recent phones. It doesn't make sense to buy a phone that is already being surpassed. Currently newer android phones like the Droid X or the Galaxy S line cost the same as the Nexus but have higher hardware.
My predictions for the price of the Nexus One are: Initially the price will go up, as with all technology, if something is hard to acquire the price will jump as it is valuable and you can milk the buyer. After some time the price will stabilize and begin to be less then the $530 initial price.
Yeah to tell you the truth I would rather have something like an Evo 4G or a Droid X, but those phones are locked to their respective carriers in the USA right? I live in Germany right now and will for about another year, and I would rather have a very unlocked phone like the Nexus One which I can buy from American eBay (or Google store before it closed) and ship it here to avoid paying in Euros.
The galaxy S is a very good phone from what I hear, there is also a International version of the phone.
I bought mine €427 all-in
my screen is now cracked on my nexus after a bad drop and I have been debating if i wanted to spend 530 on a new nexus for a couple weeks now.
ultimatly i couldn't convice myself to spend that much on a phone already outdated hardware wise even though the software support is first rate.
The samsung galaxy s is an awesome phone but the fact its shipping without froyo for now is a deal killer. After using froyo I can not go back to 2.1. Some people might say just buy it and wait for it to be released this fall, but there are some eye poping rumors about the HTC vision coming out.
Overall, the nexus was a GREAT phone, and without the crack I wouldnt be in the market for a new phone but spending 600+ for one doesnt make much sense now
The big bonus everyone forgets about the N1 is that its basically a dev phone.
Google pretty much wants us to tinker with it, stuff it full of roms and abuse it.
We also get alot more access to do to our phone what other carriers and makers are trying to block and stop.
Yes the hardware isnt the "newest" of the new but I would hardly call the phone outdated. Is my 2010 Fusion outdated because the 2011s are coming out? hardly. It isnt the newest on the block anymore but its still relevant and supported.
Also, I think that unless a phone comes to market with Gingerbread later this year the Nexus will probably be the first device to run this for a few months at least.
Lastly, look at the iPhone 4. I can show you a handful of reviews where even mac fans say the Nexus one closely matches that phone in performance and features and they only release one a yr. The nexus one wont be irrelevant until next summer.
I think that, until Google proves it can push an Android update to all phones simultaneously, there will always be a market for the Nexus 1.
Per the advice of senior XDA moderator I'm creating this thread for *All Things* Huawei Honor Note 8 phone. This phone does not yet have a dedicated forum, so you can discuss here anything from development topics, such as rooting, bootloader unlocking (there is a working method already), custom roms/recoveries to exchanging opinions about performance or accessories for this phone, which you like.
Honor Note 8 is currently released in mainland China only. However, Honor stated the phone will have international release soon.
Please note, this thread is *NOT* for Huawei Honor 8, which is completely different phone. Stay on topic and have fun. :good::laugh:
http://www.honor.cn/products/mobile-phones/honor-note8/
6.6 inch Super AMOLED display with 2560 x 1440 (2K) resolution
HiSilicon Kirin955 chipset with Mali-T880 MP4 GPU
4GB RAM (Premium Version)
Up to 128GB ROM (Premium Version) and up to 2TB expendable storage
4500mAh Battery
Dual SIM
Primary camera: 13 MP, f/2.0, autofocus, OIS, dual-LED (dual tone) flash, Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, HDR, panorama. Video recording [email protected]
Front camera: 8 MP
Fingerprint
USB Type-C
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, WiFi Direct, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.2, A2DP, EDR, LE
GPS: A-GPS, GLONASS/ BDS (market dependant)
FM radio
Marshmallow 6.0.1 with EMUI 4.1
First post by me
I have an old Galaxy Note 3. I'm in the USA on Verizon. I've been drooling over the Honor Note 8 since I first heard of it. It's exactly what I want. I cannot get a straight answer online on several questions.
1. Will it work now on Verizon? Most say no, some say yes.
2. Will it come to the USA soon? Again, I'm getting different answers on this.
3. Are there 'tricks' I can learn to force this phone to work well on Verizon now very well, or should I just wait?
I'd prefer to stay on Verizon, but I'd switch to AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile if I have to in order to use this phone.
I'm not a tech wiz, so I'll need some help here. If you can answer my questions and guide me, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Proud Owner of the Huawei Honor Note 8
Hi All,
So having lived in China for a while and having owned and used Huawei phones in the past (my last Huawei Phone was the massive Mediapad X1), I can testify to the quality and advantages of huawei smartphones.
First, I've had this phone for about a week. I ordered it off of aliexpress. I'm pretty familiar with making purchases from chinese websites and getting technical support from chinese companies and sources so i was pretty confident with making this purchase (I can read/write mandarin). Phone arrived super fast and I was happy with the purchase.
Right now I'm working really hard to root my device. I have already unlocked the bootloader using the dc-unlocker method and it worked perfectly (btw, its cheaper to download the app and pay only 1 usd instead of 4 euros). I'm literally scouring the internet and all the chinese websites for news on different roms, but very little luck thus far. I have downloaded some different versions of the operating system (ver. B017 only, as B018, B019, and B020 are not yet available as far as I've seen) but these versions are not boot versions. So no luck there.
I've also spoken directly with Huawei regarding when they will release the updated factory versions of the operating system for download from the EMUI website. There is no confirmation that they will even release them however, as the answer I received was that Huawei wants to move to a system in which all updates are OTA. I was a bit upset to say the least but we'll see what happens in the future.
For now just enjoying this awesome phone. feel free to ask me any questions.
-chris
JohnnyF118 said:
I have an old Galaxy Note 3. I'm in the USA on Verizon. I've been drooling over the Honor Note 8 since I first heard of it. It's exactly what I want. I cannot get a straight answer online on several questions.
1. Will it work now on Verizon? Most say no, some say yes.
2. Will it come to the USA soon? Again, I'm getting different answers on this.
3. Are there 'tricks' I can learn to force this phone to work well on Verizon now very well, or should I just wait?
I'd prefer to stay on Verizon, but I'd switch to AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile if I have to in order to use this phone.
I'm not a tech wiz, so I'll need some help here. If you can answer my questions and guide me, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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1. You can check on a site called willmyphonework.net
2. You can buy it on ebay
3. Don't know
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toasty32 said:
Hi All,
So having lived in China for a while and having owned and used Huawei phones in the past (my last Huawei Phone was the massive Mediapad X1), I can testify to the quality and advantages of huawei smartphones.
First, I've had this phone for about a week. I ordered it off of aliexpress. I'm pretty familiar with making purchases from chinese websites and getting technical support from chinese companies and sources so i was pretty confident with making this purchase (I can read/write mandarin). Phone arrived super fast and I was happy with the purchase.
Right now I'm working really hard to root my device. I have already unlocked the bootloader using the dc-unlocker method and it worked perfectly (btw, its cheaper to download the app and pay only 1 usd instead of 4 euros). I'm literally scouring the internet and all the chinese websites for news on different roms, but very little luck thus far. I have downloaded some different versions of the operating system (ver. B017 only, as B018, B019, and B020 are not yet available as far as I've seen) but these versions are not boot versions. So no luck there.
I've also spoken directly with Huawei regarding when they will release the updated factory versions of the operating system for download from the EMUI website. There is no confirmation that they will even release them however, as the answer I received was that Huawei wants to move to a system in which all updates are OTA. I was a bit upset to say the least but we'll see what happens in the future.
For now just enjoying this awesome phone. feel free to ask me any questions.
-chris
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Helllo,
I have two questions:
1. What's the audio output like through the headphone 3.5mm jack?
2. What's the camera like?
Racerdude said:
1. You can check on a site called willmyphonework.net
2. You can buy it on ebay
3. Don't know
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Helllo,
I have two questions:
1. What's the audio output like through the headphone 3.5mm jack?
2. What's the camera like?
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To answer your questions:
1. The audio output is excellent. Crisp with perfect amount (not too much I hate that) of base. The volume goes loud enough (using the jack) to hurt my ears, and that's hard to do.
2. The cameras on Huawei phones are usually very good to excellent. This particular phone does not sport Huawei's top camera (I think that might be the Huawei P9 plus or the Mate 8. But again, those phones are much smaller and focus on high quality cameras. This phone's advantages are its size, screen quality, CPU and memory. The camera is very good but definitely not top top quality. It doesn't focus instantaneously for example like some galaxy cameras, but I think it's good enough. I'm not THAT into photography.
3. ALSO**** just so everyone knows, I bought this phone because I wanted to use the latest CAT6 4G LTE speeds in Brazil (where I currently reside) and in China. I'm American though btw. The version I bought in its current form from China does NOT support the LTE bands commonly used by AT&T. Its bands are (1,3,7,38,39,40,and 41). Thus, 3G is the fastest speeds you would get in the US with AT&T. But it will be 4G in Europe, South America and China. If the phone is sold in the US market, Huawei changes the LTE bands to suit the target country's market, so I'm sure the bands for any US or International version of the phone will have different bands.
-chris
JohnnyF118 said:
I have an old Galaxy Note 3. I'm in the USA on Verizon. I've been drooling over the Honor Note 8 since I first heard of it. It's exactly what I want. I cannot get a straight answer online on several questions.
1. Will it work now on Verizon? Most say no, some say yes.
2. Will it come to the USA soon? Again, I'm getting different answers on this.
3. Are there 'tricks' I can learn to force this phone to work well on Verizon now very well, or should I just wait?
I'd prefer to stay on Verizon, but I'd switch to AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile if I have to in order to use this phone.
I'm not a tech wiz, so I'll need some help here. If you can answer my questions and guide me, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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Some corrections/clarifications to what Racerdude and toasty32 said. First, no one will be able to answer questions about Verizon, because Honor did not announce this phone for US market yet, and it also did not pass through FCC certification. Having said that - most likely the answer is No, it will not work on Verizon. Typically, what Huawei, ZTE and other Chinese manufacturers do when they bring phones to North American market - they don't strike a deal with carriers and they don't release carrier branded phones, like Samsung, Apple, LG and others do. If you want to take past behavior of Chinese manufacturers as an indication what Honor will do - they will just release GSM only (no CDMA, hence no Verizon or Sprint) US version of Note 8, with all North American LTE bands enabled, and let people decide whichever GSM carrier they want to use it with. Honor just did this exact thing with Honor 8 phone in US a couple of weeks ago.
What toasty32 said about this Chinese version working in Europe and South America is not completely true - this Chinese EDI-AL10 version has only one overlapping TDD-LTE band 38 with some of South American carriers (most don't use it), and some European countries support LTE bands 3,38,40 so in some Euro regions 4G will be spotty at best, and in many places won't work at all. Here is the list of operating LTE frequencies by country and carrier
US T-Mobile requires LTE bands 2,4,12 (and optional band 17 used by AT&T because FCC requires them to support roaming)
US AT&T requires LTE bands 2,4,5,17 (and optional band 12 used by T-Mobile because FCC requires them to support roaming)
bootloader unlock
toasty32 said:
Right now I'm working really hard to root my device. I have already unlocked the bootloader using the dc-unlocker method and it worked perfectly (btw, its cheaper to download the app and pay only 1 usd instead of 4 euros).
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I've used dc-unlocker before and had to pay 4 euros to read bootloader code. Do you mind explaining what you meant by this, what app are you talking about and how to pay only $1 USD instead, to unlock bootloader?
JohnnyF118 said:
I have an old Galaxy Note 3. I'm in the USA on Verizon. I've been drooling over the Honor Note 8 since I first heard of it. It's exactly what I want. I cannot get a straight answer online on several questions.
1. Will it work now on Verizon? Most say no, some say yes.
2. Will it come to the USA soon? Again, I'm getting different answers on this.
3. Are there 'tricks' I can learn to force this phone to work well on Verizon now very well, or should I just wait?
I'd prefer to stay on Verizon, but I'd switch to AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile if I have to in order to use this phone.
I'm not a tech wiz, so I'll need some help here. If you can answer my questions and guide me, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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i've done some research into this and followed up with some other threads with people who bought the phone. Forget the different phone frequency websites, this phone will not get you what you want in the US. No LTE. Some carriers like tmo will get you 3g/3.5g hspa+ but that's the best you'll get and not a smart move. I'm also desperately waiting some any big phone to come with US compatible bands but as it seems now, we're still waiting..
Hi everyone, i write from Italy.
I always loved big smartphones and this would be one of the best right now.
Unfortunately, i think that Honor won't bring in Europe.
I talked to their FB page, and they wrote me :
"Hi Marco, we don't have official news to launch the honor note 8 in Europe. If we have any plans, we will announce at once on our page, thank you - If you buy it from China, Well.. Then the warranty and post-sale service would not apply elsewhere but China" .
I'm a bit disappointed actually, i really don't understand why this amazing phon is sold just in China and they said " We don't know either" ... GOOD
Guys, on the web i saw that the camera sensor is the Sony Imx 278. (Same of P8/Mate S/G8) ...i'm a bit disappointed because i didn't love this camera sensor in the past...what do you think ?
Can you guys update from which seller in Aliexpress you bought from?
I paid for the phone last week and it has been 7 days but no update from the seller. Today I cancelled the order but Aliexpress have rejected it stating Seller has the phone in stock and order cannot be cancelled. The sad thing is Seller is not responding has 40 days (33 now) to ship the order (I did not see this while ordering). I ordered because seller was the Highest/most reputed seller while sorting and had DHL shipping. Any ways to resolve?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...2722895630.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.56.UCIAcX
Edit: Avoid this seller at all costs!
cashif said:
Can you guys update from which seller in Aliexpress you bought from?
I paid for the phone last week and it has been 7 days but no update from the seller. Today I cancelled the order but Aliexpress have rejected it stating Seller has the phone in stock and order cannot be cancelled. The sad thing is Seller is not responding has 40 days (33 now) to ship the order (I did not see this while ordering). I ordered because seller was the Highest/most reputed seller while sorting and had DHL shipping. Any ways to resolve?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...2722895630.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.56.UCIAcX
Edit: Avoid this seller at all costs!
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I'd tell Aliexpress to F*** OFF and do a chargeback with your credit card company. People should be allowed to cancel orders, for items which havent shipped, at any time. I'd also recommend to never buy from that marketplace again. Use places like Amazon, or at least eBay, where things are controlled more tightly and these US headquartered businesses will not screw you over without explanation.
My experience with AliExpress and UPDATE on ROOTING
Hi All,
So to answer the question regarding Aliexpress....I purchased from this store/seller here:
.aliexpress.com/store/1802347?spm=2114.13010608.0.126.x0uHsw
and in particular, this product:
.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Huawei-Honor-Note-8-4G-LTE-Mobile-Phone-Kirin-955-Octa-Core-6-6-2K/32714180113.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.129.x0uHsw
I used singapore expedited shipping (super cheap) as it was one of the few options I could use to get expedited shipping to the US considering there was a lithium ion battery being shipped internationally.
I cannot stress how pleased I was with both the seller and the service. I understand that Aliexpress may have a bad reputation because it is a foreign/chinese website and doing business internationally is almost always more difficult that doing business domestically, but that being said, I do want to be fair, and when I do have a good experience, I'll promote it. Like any mass seller website ebay or otherwise there are going to be good merchants and bad ones. Luckily I found a good one.
cheers,
chris
UPDATE:
I was able to finally root this phone with the help of some Chinese programmers (from bbs.xxroot.com <--- the Chinese equivalent of xda developers haha). More details to come.
toasty32 said:
Hi All,
So to answer the question regarding Aliexpress....I purchased from this store/seller here:
.aliexpress.com/store/1802347?spm=2114.13010608.0.126.x0uHsw
and in particular, this product:
.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Huawei-Honor-Note-8-4G-LTE-Mobile-Phone-Kirin-955-Octa-Core-6-6-2K/32714180113.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.129.x0uHsw
I used singapore expedited shipping (super cheap) as it was one of the few options I could use to get expedited shipping to the US considering there was a lithium ion battery being shipped internationally.
I cannot stress how pleased I was with both the seller and the service. I understand that Aliexpress may have a bad reputation because it is a foreign/chinese website and doing business internationally is almost always more difficult that doing business domestically, but that being said, I do want to be fair, and when I do have a good experience, I'll promote it. Like any mass seller website ebay or otherwise there are going to be good merchants and bad ones. Luckily I found a good one.
cheers,
chris
UPDATE:
I was able to finally root this phone with the help of some Chinese programmers (from bbs.xxroot.com <--- the Chinese equivalent of xda developers haha). More details to come.
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Just wanted to point out that Aliexpress has bad reputation not because it is a foreign/chinese website, but because that reputation is well deserved. I personally got scammed for over $300 by that site years ago, and I personally know several people, who got screwed as well. Also, if you do a bit of internet research then like you said - you will discover that marketplace has a bad reputation, and for a good reason - there are plenty of people's testimonies of fraud. Aliexpress is nothing like eBay - scam/fraud rate is orders of magnitude higher.
If you want to take the time and post the root guide for the rooting method you used - I'm sure it'd be much appreciated by a lot of people here, who have or plan to buy this phone. Also, you didn't answer my question from earlier post about how to avoid paying 4 euros to dc-unlocker for unlocking the bootloader.
How can Honor put the same camera of Huawei P8 (Just sufficient) in a phablet with 4gb of Ram DDR4, Kirin 955, QHD Screen....c'mon..
toasty32 said:
Hi All,
So to answer the question regarding Aliexpress....I purchased from this store/seller here:
.aliexpress.com/store/1802347?spm=2114.13010608.0.126.x0uHsw
and in particular, this product:
.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Huawei-Honor-Note-8-4G-LTE-Mobile-Phone-Kirin-955-Octa-Core-6-6-2K/32714180113.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.129.x0uHsw
I used singapore expedited shipping (super cheap) as it was one of the few options I could use to get expedited shipping to the US considering there was a lithium ion battery being shipped internationally.
I cannot stress how pleased I was with both the seller and the service. I understand that Aliexpress may have a bad reputation because it is a foreign/chinese website and doing business internationally is almost always more difficult that doing business domestically, but that being said, I do want to be fair, and when I do have a good experience, I'll promote it. Like any mass seller website ebay or otherwise there are going to be good merchants and bad ones. Luckily I found a good one.
cheers,
chris
UPDATE:
I was able to finally root this phone with the help of some Chinese programmers (from bbs.xxroot.com <--- the Chinese equivalent of xda developers haha). More details to come.
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Damn. That was my preferred seller. While ordering, it showed processing time of 5 days, so decided to skip it and went with the Highest rated seller (Who has/d not mentioned processing time in the listing) and whose feedback was filled with positive reviews about quick shipping.
Apo11on said:
Just wanted to point out that Aliexpress has bad reputation not because it is a foreign/chinese website, but because that reputation is well deserved. I personally got scammed for over $300 by that site years ago, and I personally know several people, who got screwed as well. Also, if you do a bit of internet research then like you said - you will discover that marketplace has a bad reputation, and for a good reason - there are plenty of people's testimonies of fraud. Aliexpress is nothing like eBay - scam/fraud rate is orders of magnitude higher.
If you want to take the time and post the root guide for the rooting method you used - I'm sure it'd be much appreciated by a lot of people here, who have or plan to buy this phone. Also, you didn't answer my question from earlier post about how to avoid paying 4 euros to dc-unlocker for unlocking the bootloader.
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Have purchased more than 75 times from AliExpress (atleast 20 expensive items) and this has been my WORST experience for me. Everytime, Orders were shipped either next day or 2 days after and I generally order expensive items thru DHL/Fedex and have had it with me within 10 days. On the contrary, had very bad experience with ebay- both as seller & buyer- and have completely stopped using it (Lost close to $1200 while selling).
Order Update: Seller has mailed me apologising for delay and stating he will ship ' asap' but Still no commitment- (He replied after I bombarded him with messages)
@chris- Do update with the root method. Am so happy that it has been rooted as one of the reasons I tried cancelling the phone (other than obvious delay) was that you mentioning no root and someone mentioning about it not being launched in Europe
cashif said:
Have purchased more than 75 times from AliExpress (atleast 20 expensive items) and this has been my WORST experience for me. Everytime, Orders were shipped either next day or 2 days after and I generally order expensive items thru DHL/Fedex and have had it with me within 10 days. On the contrary, had very bad experience with ebay- both as seller & buyer- and have completely stopped using it (Lost close to $1200 while selling).
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This sounds a lot like Aliexpress advertisement. I bet it's because you sell there yourself, and want people to use it. I'm glad it allegedly works fine for you, but I myself and a lot of people I know would never go near it. Regardless, this is kind of off topic stuff, not related to Honor Note 8, so I suggest we move on.
If anyone can post a root method, or free/chip bootloader unlock method - that'd be very much appreciated. And if someone car figure out a way to mod NVRAM and unlock additional LTE bands in this Kirin955 chipset - that'd be a home-run!
Apo11on said:
This sounds a lot like Aliexpress advertisement. I bet it's because you sell there yourself, and want people to use it. I'm glad it allegedly works fine for you, but I myself and a lot of people I know would never go near it. Regardless, this is kind of off topic stuff, not related to Honor Note 8, so I suggest we move on.
If anyone can post a root method, or free/chip bootloader unlock method - that'd be very much appreciated. And if someone car figure out a way to mod NVRAM and unlock additional LTE bands in this Kirin955 chipset - that'd be a home-run!
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Just to clarify I used to sell in Ebay not AliExpress and I have no relation/business whatsoever with AliExpress !!
Apo11on said:
This sounds a lot like Aliexpress advertisement. I bet it's because you sell there yourself, and want people to use it. I'm glad it allegedly works fine for you, but I myself and a lot of people I know would never go near it. Regardless, this is kind of off topic stuff, not related to Honor Note 8, so I suggest we move on.
If anyone can post a root method, or free/chip bootloader unlock method - that'd be very much appreciated. And if someone car figure out a way to mod NVRAM and unlock additional LTE bands in this Kirin955 chipset - that'd be a home-run!
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So it sounds like it's been a while since you've actually used AliExpress. If that's true, than I have to say that it has changed and improved a LOT from 5 or even two years ago (not perfect of course). I hate to sound like an advertisement as well though but I do want to be fair. I think you should probably try it again to see for yourself because you're missing out on a lot. But your decision.
In regards to unlocking the bootloader: A little while ago DC-unlocker had a promotion on their website because they had just released their android app on the play store (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dc.huaweibootloadercodes) and I remember seeing that there was a discount in prices for people who used the app. I took the bait, clicked the link and downloaded the app. Opening up the app on my phone I saw that there was the option to purchase a DC-unlocker account directly for $0.99. This as opposed to buying credits directly from their site. I purchased it and it worked. You guys should definitely try it.
Finally, it cost me a bit to finalize the rooting of my phone (50-100 RMB) especially because I downloaded some software tools from bbs.xxroot.com that they developed to unroot it. Also, it took a LOT of conversations (in mandarin haha) and several painful mistakes to figure out how the hell to root my phone. I am going to describe in a future post exactly what I did in detail but I'm not sure how much it will help people. I'll keep everyone posted.
cheers,
chris
P.S. please click thanks if you guys find my posts helpful! thanks.
So I'm pretty sure I'm hated at bbs.xxroot.com right now. But I succeeded....
check it out --> drive.google.com/file/d/0By2RD6aSQhsNb1NqRnFEd2VMcDA/view?usp=sharing
gonna work on trying to unlock additional LTE bands (if possible).
cheers,
chris
Hi folks,
I had just about finalized a decision to buy the US 3T (A3000) but then realized it wasn't available for sale from OP anymore. Looks like the usual outlets such as Amazon are selling them at a marked up price ($493 at the moment) or a bit cheaper but with no warranty (forget that).
IS there a place to get it without markup?
Or is it generally better to wait for support for the 5? Rooting / being able to mod is important to me.
Marc
Frankenscript said:
Hi folks,
I had just about finalized a decision to buy the US 3T (A3000) but then realized it wasn't available for sale from OP anymore. Looks like the usual outlets such as Amazon are selling them at a marked up price ($493 at the moment) or a bit cheaper but with no warranty (forget that).
IS there a place to get it without markup?
Or is it generally better to wait for support for the 5? Rooting / being able to mod is important to me.
Marc
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I Suggest u to get Oneplus 5 with the warranty . TWRP for OP5 was released, u can use magisk to root the OP5 . OP5 has also got some custom ROM also. Initial u can use OOS its very awesome ROM, if want u can flash the custom ROM later. :good:
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Thanks for this. Looks like the 5 has slightly smaller battery than 3T which worried me. But I will look for some comparison reviews.
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To add my two cents, I was in the same boat as you were. I went with the OP3T (128 GB) as I got a used (but in mint condition) one for around $390 on eBay.
Sure, I could have spent around $150 more, but my budget was a hard $400 and I just came under it and I'm happy with it. Both phones are great (at least, I assume that on the OP5 based on most reviews), and the OP3T is still quite relevant.
I like to tinker for sure, but I also need a daily driver with a little power and this is it. It's got the same CPU as my wife's Pixel XL, and her phone is fantastic. If I can get similar performance for around $250 less (hers was also used hence the smaller gap), I'm game. Maybe when OnePlus adds water and dust resistant certification, then perhaps I'll go brand new (OP7 someday?). Until then, I've realized my wallet and mind are happier with saving some money and getting damn good performance.
So check eBay for sure...you'll find a bunch of auctions for the phone. eBay Buy-It-Now listings might still be over $450 for the 128 GB though. Swappa has some as well, but the 128 GB goes over $400 there. Unless I missed it, you looking for 128 GB or 64 GB?
64 GB would be plenty. I don't carry much music around. Might go with 128GB for resale value. The 5 looks nice but I am quite concerned by the reports by some of jello effect scrolling. Seems to be controversial. Never held one in my hand so can't comment whether it would be an issue for me.
Will research while on vacation the next week or so... That delay may push me to the 5 by default as 3T gets scarcer.
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64 GB would be plenty. I don't carry much music around. Might go with 128GB for resale value. The 5 looks nice but I am quite concerned by the reports by some of jello effect scrolling. Seems to be controversial. Never held one in my hand so can't comment whether it would be an issue for me.
Will research while on vacation the next week or so... That delay may push me to the 5 by default as 3T gets scarcer.
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I would say dont take reviews to consideration too much as they review the phone from top to bottom with standard user dont do. Jelly effect hardly visible but lets say you will not like your OP5 because of that you can always return it within return policy. Technically you are losing nothing. If I didn't buy OP3T few month ago I would get OP5 with no questions asked. Your choice of course. Also if you dont want to spend a lot of money and 64gig is enough look into Honor 8 or LG G6 it is 500$ on US T-Mobile
Used is just as good these days...
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Hi folks,
I had just about finalized a decision to buy the US 3T (A3000) but then realized it wasn't available for sale from OP anymore. Looks like the usual outlets such as Amazon are selling them at a marked up price ($493 at the moment) or a bit cheaper but with no warranty (forget that).
IS there a place to get it without markup?
Or is it generally better to wait for support for the 5? Rooting / being able to mod is important to me.
Marc
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Try swappa.com, new and used phones for good pricing... In my opinion, better way to buy a new/used phone than ebay.
****, I bought my Midnight Blk 3t on there for just around $400... and of course youll still get warranty since theyre not even 1 yr old.
Thanks guys!
@emarq286, thanks for the swappa recommendation. I've bought and sold a number of phones there. A mint 3T from a rated seller goes in the low $400s, with uncertainty about warranty since I wouldn't have the original receipt. I've had mixed experiences in the past claiming warranty repairs in situations like this. I would have paid the $439 to OP, but not sure I want to pay that much for even one described as mint. I'd rather just get a 5, for a little bit more (except some jelly-related hesitation.... I probably wouldn't notice/care about the visual artifact but have some concern that the resale value of the phone down the road if this is an unfixable thing that bugs a fair number of people.
One other thing: my current phone is a G3, with a QHD display... do you think I'll dislike the somewhat lower res full HD display?
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Thanks guys!
@emarq286, thanks for the swappa recommendation. I've bought and sold a number of phones there. A mint 3T from a rated seller goes in the low $400s, with uncertainty about warranty since I wouldn't have the original receipt. I've had mixed experiences in the past claiming warranty repairs in situations like this. I would have paid the $439 to OP, but not sure I want to pay that much for even one described as mint. I'd rather just get a 5, for a little bit more (except some jelly-related hesitation.... I probably wouldn't notice/care about the visual artifact but have some concern that the resale value of the phone down the road if this is an unfixable thing that bugs a fair number of people.
One other thing: my current phone is a G3, with a QHD display... do you think I'll dislike the somewhat lower res full HD display?
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I've had several QHD phones (GS7, HTC10, still own G6), and the 1080p AMOLED of 3t/5 is still AWESOME!
In my honest opinion, only reason you should "need" QHD is for VR... AMOLED makes up for the competitive advantage that most LCD-QHD displays hold over it.
Just my take.
Having had the Moto X Pure and it's display spoiled me a tad, but the silicon (Snapdragon 808 I think) wasn't the greatest (too much lag and both my wife and I had the issue...myself much more than her), so I went back to the OPO. I noticed a difference the first few days, but after that not so much. OP3T is better obviously, and with the OP5 as well, you might see a difference compared to QHD, but it's not that big of a deal.
As for that jelly scroll...personally I've seen it and I don't like it at all. That and the cost is what sealed the deal for in getting the OP3T. Of course, you could have a different experience.
I honestly have not worried about warranty coverage on any phone as I've never ever needed it...though YMMV obviously.
Just got this email from Best Buy... Anyone else delayed? There's a small thread on reddit too. Maybe there aren't that many preorders...
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Haven't you heard? The NSA/FBI/CIA declared Huawei devices "bad" last week. Maybe since then, there was a loss of demand? Or perhaps the converse is true and there was a spike of demand and they can't keep up?
Anyway, whatever the cause for delay, that stinks for those who preordered. I'm really interested in this phone, and was hoping to start seeing reviews from US people. I also noticed on Amazon it now says "ships when available in 1-2 days."
Ordered on Amazon with $150 gift card from Amazon for free 2 weeks ago, got it today, using on straight talk gsm, phone is super smooth and very fast, especially fingerprint touch to unlock is extremely fast, came with screen protector installed and also a transparent phone case included, fast charging is very fast.
Crap I should have gone through Amazon then BestBuy still says they'll have my device on Thursday
Yes delayed as well through Best Buy, and I ordered the day it became available.
preordered through amazon and got mine yesterday, the grey one now says 1-2 months, they have a couple of the blue ones left, they probably sold all their advance stock in preorder.
Great phone btw, few quirks and the camera could be better but its excellent.
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preordered through amazon and got mine yesterday, the grey one now says 1-2 months, they have a couple of the blue ones left, they probably sold all their advance stock in preorder.
Great phone btw, few quirks and the camera could be better but its excellent.
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Delivery on Presidents day?
On the truck today for Best Buy preorder.
I just got my Best Buy PreOrder. The ETA was for Thursday. Got the message that it was ready for pickup this morning. Got my Best buy gift card a few hours later
I preordered on Amazon the day preorders started - originally was slated for Feb 20th delivery but i actually got it release day the 18th. Also placed a best buy preorder as a backup which was ready on 18th as well, but i cancelled since i got it from amazon sooner than expected
I ordered the international dual sim version on Amazon and got it quickly. Have had it over a month now. Has a couple of little quirks, but overall I'm impressed with the battery life and smoothness.
I know everyone has their own taste, but for anyone living in the States and has the option to buy the Google Pixel anywhere you want and instead you choose Huawei? For me it's a mystery beyond the laws of physics, Pixel beats Huawei on everything except the looks of the phone.
OK I know there has been some trouble with the pixel screens, but why would you choose a phone that is inferior?
I have had the mate for 3 months now, and the phone drives me crazy with Huaweis way of doing it, they are totally different from the other manufacturers. So many bugs and they haven't fixed a single one of them.
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I know everyone has their own taste, but for anyone living in the States and has the option to buy the Google Pixel anywhere you want and instead you choose Huawei? For me it's a mystery beyond the laws of physics, Pixel beats Huawei on everything except the looks of the phone.
OK I know there has been some trouble with the pixel screens, but why would you choose a phone that is inferior?
I have had the mate for 3 months now, and the phone drives me crazy with Huaweis way of doing it, they are totally different from the other manufacturers. So many bugs and they haven't fixed a single one of them.
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I don't understand why people think that their opinion MUST be there right one..
But, having just bought a M10P, I can happily answer that for you.
- Better camera (the dual camera setup for sure makes better shots, combined with optical zoom and a better portrait mode)
- Non rounded screen corners (opinion, but I can't stand the corners)
- More Ram (6gb vs 4gb)
- Kirin 790 as fast or faster as the SD835
- Bigger battery (as I type, 3:50 SOT, still at 69% left...)
- Cat 18 modem vs Cat 15
- Same size screen, smaller body (not much, but still)
- 20+W fast charging
- IR blaster (seriously.. not having to grab a remote when my phone is nearby.. sweet..)
- Dedicated AI assistance chip (again, does some.smart things with photos and translation)
- Stupidity fast fingerprint reader (not sure if the pixel is as fast.. but this speed really impressed me)
- Desktop mode when using HDMI out
- I love the design over the XL..
I have no doubt you will try to argue my points, but they are my valid reasons, and I have no complaints or second guesses on my purchase. I got it for 650 (800+150 gift card from Best buy), and feel the value is just fine too. Sorry, but the world would be borring if we all thought the same.
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I know everyone has their own taste, but for anyone living in the States and has the option to buy the Google Pixel anywhere you want and instead you choose Huawei? For me it's a mystery beyond the laws of physics, Pixel beats Huawei on everything except the looks of the phone.
OK I know there has been some trouble with the pixel screens, but why would you choose a phone that is inferior?
I have had the mate for 3 months now, and the phone drives me crazy with Huaweis way of doing it, they are totally different from the other manufacturers. So many bugs and they haven't fixed a single one of them.
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Inferior is your opinion. But my biggest reasons are storage, price and battery. That is when Amazon finally ships mine. Ordered on the 4th and they still haven't shipped it.
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Hello, confirmed by Samsung DE price is 399 Euros https://www.samsung.com/de/smartphones/galaxy-a70-a705fnds/SM-A705FZKUDBT/
UK price was confirmed pre-launch as £369, but Samsung UK have gone very quiet on the subject now. Although there is a product page on their site (https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-a70/SM-A705FZBUBTU/ which was actually there from before the start of the big Launch Event on 10 April) there is no pricing or any pre-order option yet.
I do hope it will actually arrive on 26 April as promised, as my main workhorse device has recently died and I'm having to use an old Galaxy S4 in the meantime, and the A70 looks like a perfect replacement for me on paper at least - big screen, big battery, decent enough processor for non-gaming use, decent enough camera as I use a DSLR for real photos, and a 3.5mm jack and SD Card slot.
Andre
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UK price was confirmed pre-launch as £369, but Samsung UK have gone very quiet on the subject now. Although there is a product page on their site (https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-a70/SM-A705FZBUBTU/ which was actually there from before the start of the big Launch Event on 10 April) there is no pricing or any pre-order option yet.
I do hope it will actually arrive on 26 April as promised, as my main workhorse device has recently died and I'm having to use an old Galaxy S4 in the meantime, and the A70 looks like a perfect replacement for me on paper at least - big screen, big battery, decent enough processor for non-gaming use, decent enough camera as I use a DSLR for real photos, and a 3.5mm jack and SD Card slot.
Andre
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Yes it's that battery that is the killer feature for me - I had a lenovo P2 and then switched to a nokia 7.1 plus but need that bigger battery...
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Yes it's that battery that is the killer feature for me
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Same here. I had a Galaxy Note 3 (until it's memory chips sadly gave up on it last month, which was terminal, RIP) and I would always carry a fully-charged spare battery tucked away at the back of my wallet. If the main battery ran low during a busy day's usage, I would pop in the spare and instantly be back up to 100%. No messy cables or bulked-out booster covers to carry, and no recharging time - just zero to 100 in about 45 seconds. Sadly that ship has sailed now it seems.
Also my Note 3 had a bigger screen than any of the supposed "upgrades" that Samsung have released since. And by bigger I mean wider - I really don't care especially about taller/thinner devices with ratios greater than 16:9 as I can't reach any of that upper area one-handed anyway. The strange ratios also make it impossible to properly compare devices by diagonal screen measurement of course, as it would be possible to release a half-inch wide device that is 7 inches tall and still market it as a 7-inch screen! I'll have to live with it now though I guess, just as long as the new screen is not much narrower, width-wise, than what I'm used to (about 7.2 mm).
Oh, and while I'm whinging I also hate the curved-edge screens that Samsung has been making almost a trademark on higher-end devices over the last few years. What is the point, I can see no functional advantage whatsoever?
So anyway, back on topic, I'm hoping the A70 should tick as many of my boxes as possible as a replacement for my Note 3, apart from raw CPU power and wireless charging, and the pen that I never used. We'll see anyway - and hopefully very soon, although it's gone very quiet in terms of availability dates or companies taking pre-orders.
Andre
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Same here. I had a Galaxy Note 3 (until it's memory chips sadly gave up on it last month, which was terminal, RIP) and I would always carry a fully-charged spare battery tucked away at the back of my wallet. If the main battery ran low during a busy day's usage, I would pop in the spare and instantly be back up to 100%. No messy cables or bulked-out booster covers to carry, and no recharging time - just zero to 100 in about 45 seconds. Sadly that ship has sailed now it seems.
Also my Note 3 had a bigger screen than any of the supposed "upgrades" that Samsung have released since. And by bigger I mean wider - I really don't care especially about taller/thinner devices with ratios greater than 16:9 as I can't reach any of that upper area one-handed anyway. The strange ratios also make it impossible to properly compare devices by diagonal screen measurement of course, as it would be possible to release a half-inch wide device that is 7 inches tall and still market it as a 7-inch screen! I'll have to live with it now though I guess, just as long as the new screen is not much narrower, width-wise, than what I'm used to (about 7.2 mm).
Oh, and while I'm whinging I also hate the curved-edge screens that Samsung has been making almost a trademark on higher-end devices over the last few years. What is the point, I can see no functional advantage whatsoever?
So anyway, back on topic, I'm hoping the A70 should tick as many of my boxes as possible as a replacement for my Note 3, apart from raw CPU power and wireless charging, and the pen that I never used. We'll see anyway - and hopefully very soon, although it's gone very quiet in terms of availability dates or companies taking pre-orders.
Andre
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I notice that Samsung are doing a £50 off on the a50 if you take in an old phone (I have a HTC that I paid £10 from Tesco three years ago in a drawer) - hopefully they do the same with the a70...
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I notice that Samsung are doing a £50 off on the a50 if you take in an old phone (I have a HTC that I paid £10 from Tesco three years ago in a drawer) - hopefully they do the same with the a70...
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Where is that A50 offer, online with Samsung? I know some markets have done a "regardless of condition / whether it's working", which would be a good way to dispose of my non-booting Note 3.
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Hi,
Yes the OFFICIAL price in EUROPE (with tax included) is €399, for the version with 6GB of RAM and 128GB of Internal Storage. I'll prefer for this price to have the 8GB of RAM, but I feel Samsung doesn't likes to sell that model in Europe (like the 6GB of A50).
I hope to see some offerts around €350, as that's a good price for it!
I'm guessing we'll get the 6GB version too. Samsung UK support told me in an online livechat (no confirmed dates from them yet by the way) that the A70 will feature an Exynos chipset, which seems contrary to everything I've read so far (which says Snapdragon 675). I'm guessing they got it wrong to be honest.
Andre
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UK price was confirmed pre-launch as £369, but Samsung UK have gone very quiet on the subject now. Although there is a product page on their site (https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-a70/SM-A705FZBUBTU/ which was actually there from before the start of the big Launch Event on 10 April) there is no pricing or any pre-order option yet.
I do hope it will actually arrive on 26 April as promised, as my main workhorse device has recently died and I'm having to use an old Galaxy S4 in the meantime, and the A70 looks like a perfect replacement for me on paper at least - big screen, big battery, decent enough processor for non-gaming use, decent enough camera as I use a DSLR for real photos, and a 3.5mm jack and SD Card slot.
Andre
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Funny because my story is very similar. I had S8 which died, so now I'm back on my old S4 which barely holds any charge and is so slow and janky (with custom ROM). After using S8 for almost 2 years I realized that I hate curved screens with passion. A70 seems like a perfect phone for my needs, I'm actually counting days until it hits stores.
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Funny because my story is very similar. I had S8 which died, so now I'm back on my old S4 which barely holds any charge and is so slow and janky (with custom ROM). After using S8 for almost 2 years I realized that I hate curved screens with passion. A70 seems like a perfect phone for my needs, I'm actually counting days until it hits stores.
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Everyone hates curved-edge screens, but no one wants to admit it. My girlfriend wants to get rid of her S8 (she reminds me every day how much she hates the curved screen :laugh. She's thinking about replacing it with a P30. I'm probably going to replace my LG G6 with the A70. I really miss a bigger battery and screen from my Huawei mate 7 days. Can't wait. Counting days with you! :highfive:
Samsung's customer contact team (UK) still doesn't seem to have any idea when the A70 will be released. They said this morning that they'll email me when they know anything more.
I did refer them to their own Press Release dated 27 March, which clearly states "The Galaxy A70 will be available in the UK from 26th April, RRP £369", see https://news.samsung.com/uk/capture-connect-and-conquer-with-the-new-samsung-galaxy-a70 (unless they redact it anyway).
Hey ho, just don't expect the left hand and the right hand to know what the other is doing.
Andre
I just had a reply in response to my email to the contact address that was given in the Samsung Press Release. They said:
Thanks for your email.
Yes as per the release, the A70 model will be available to purchase in the UK from next Friday, 26 April.
You can find out more information on the product here.
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Perhaps they should inform their own online sales team then, and their customer services department, and maybe even retailers?
Andre
I contacted Samsung UK again (via their FB messenger) as there is still no availability info from their own website, nor from any retailers in the the UK, and they replied:
We can confirm that the A70 will be released on Friday, but there will be no pre-order, as this only occurs with our flagship models. Also, we are unable to confirm which retailers will be selling the phone, so are unable to comment on where it will be available.
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Fingers crossed then, but it does seem odd for there to be such little fanfare, or even any demo units in stores, just a couple of days before a Samsung release though. I was hoping to go and see Avengers Endgame on Friday morning and buy a new phone in the afternoon.
Andre
Bad news guys, release date for A70 according to Amazon.de is May 15th. That would explain why there is no availability info in UK and elsewhere in Europe because it's still 3 weeks off.
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Bad news guys, release date for A70 according to Amazon.de is May 15th..
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If true, that would mean Samsung's customer service team doesn't know its arse from its elbow. So, would that come as any great surprise to anyone?
Andre
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I contacted Samsung UK again (via their FB messenger) as there is still no availability info from their own website, nor from any retailers in the the UK, and they replied:
Fingers crossed then, but it does seem odd for there to be such little fanfare, or even any demo units in stores, just a couple of days before a Samsung release though. I was hoping to go and see Avengers Endgame on Friday morning and buy a new phone in the afternoon.
Andre
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When the A50 was launched a few weeks ago there was no fanfare or pre registration, it just became available to buy in stock on the release day.
The concerning thing for me is that most European retailers are claiming they won't be getting stock until mid May and the A50 was launched in most European markets before the UK so it seems strange that they would reverse the release for the A70. And I doubt there would be a 3 week gap between a UK release and a European one.
Just gotta wait and see what happens tomorrow I suppose. Argos was the 1st retailer to stock the A50 when that was released so I'd keep an eye on their website tomorrow
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Bad news guys, release date for A70 according to Amazon.de is May 15th. That would explain why there is no availability info in UK and elsewhere in Europe because it's still 3 weeks off.
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I've been reading from multiple sources that it's tomorrow the 26th in Europe,maybe Amazon won't have it till May or maybe it is May,but I wouldn't be surprised to see it in my local Argos in the next few days,not really bothered mind you,still on the fence with this one
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but I wouldn't be surprised to see it in my local Argos in the next few days,
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I did message Argos and they said they don't have any info (and they checked with the B'ham store and they have no stocks waiting for release) but sometimes these things just drop onto their system without notice, so to check back tomorrow. Not holding my breath though.
Oh well, going to see Avengers End Game in the morning anyway, so that'll be some consolation if no phone yet.
Andre
Samsung have now re-edited their press release to say "The Galaxy A70 will be available in the UK from the 3rd May, RRP £369". Also Caphone Warehouse have messaged me back to say A40, A50 and A70 all on 1st May. Ho hum.
On the plus side, The Avengers was very good.
Andre
See it on Amazon Germany: https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Galax...+A70+Smartphone&qid=1556293783&s=ce-de&sr=1-3
Price €399 and delivery at 15th May.