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Is it possible to add an NFC chip to the Nexus One?

The NFC chip of the Nexus S is located on the battery cover, IIRC. I was wondering if it is possible to install it on our Nexus One.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/26/rim-bank-of-america-partnering-up-for-mobile-wallet-nfc-trial/
According to this, it is possible to add the NFC chip to older blackberry phones that didn't come with the NFC. I'm not a very tech savvy person so I was wondering what other kinds of hardware connection you need to make it work?

Well, I would think it wouldn't take much to put a pre-programmed chip anywhere you want. But tying in to the rest of the hardware, and thus software... I can't imagine this is easy.

NexusDro said:
The NFC chip of the Nexus S is located on the battery cover, IIRC. I was wondering if it is possible to install it on our Nexus One.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/26/rim-bank-of-america-partnering-up-for-mobile-wallet-nfc-trial/
According to this, it is possible to add the NFC chip to older blackberry phones that didn't come with the NFC. I'm not a very tech savvy person so I was wondering what other kinds of hardware connection you need to make it work?
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Yeah I was curious after reading this post as well. If an ancient Blackberry can do it, surely the N1 should have no trouble. Then again, the Blackberry models have always had a sort of built in NFC for interfacing with their holsters, so it might be a build up on that.

dnlsmy said:
Yeah I was curious after reading this post as well. If an ancient Blackberry can do it, surely the N1 should have no trouble. Then again, the Blackberry models have always had a sort of built in NFC for interfacing with their holsters, so it might be a build up on that.
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I don't think it is NFC. I believe it is some kind of magnetic sensor. The Holster has a magnet and when the phone leaves the magnetic field, it automatically turns the screen on or something. But you could be right that it could be related to NFC.

Most blackberries have dock connectors in their battery doors that allow for power and I am pretty sure data transfer, thus of a new back was inserted, the infrastructure would already exist for it to talk to the phone. N1 doesn't have this on the battery door.

Well ok, maybe not the battery door. But how about the docking pins? They allow for data and power transfer? Sure, it'd interfere with docking if you'd mount a chip on there. But some people might be perfectly happy with that..
Or am I talking about completely different things here?

I'm pretty sure the docking pins would be a viable option, as they do transfer data (tell Nexus One to open clock, open car mode). I don't know anyone who would reverse-engineer that much though

pinke123 said:
Most blackberries have dock connectors in their battery doors that allow for power and I am pretty sure data transfer, thus of a new back was inserted, the infrastructure would already exist for it to talk to the phone. N1 doesn't have this on the battery door.
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Didn't expect rim to be this forward thinking.

Those docking pins, since they they are not connected to the door are irrelevant. They bear no resemblance to the ones on a bb because you can't just swap out the bottom piece of the phone for one with an nfc chip in it.
The only possible solution for this idea that I can think of (prepare yourselves, it is pretty out there) is to place an "L" shaped tab between the battery connectors on the battery and phone, have connectors on the other end of the "L" that sit on top of the battery, and make a new back cover that has an nfc chip in it, and connectors to the "L" tab. This would only work if there was a way for the phone to send data to the battery, if that were possible the tab would create a fork in the data "road" and allow for interaction between the phone and nfc chip. I highly doubt that the N1 has such a sophisticated battery, but I do know that this is possible because some macbook batteries get firmware updates pushed directly to the battery. So if you were a genius mechanical engineer, the phone and battery could talk, and you had a lot of time on your hands, you could probably do it.

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Didn't expect rim to be this forward thinking.
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Actually RIM and Bank of America are partnering to do a pilot program of bb's with nfc chips:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...wallet-nfc-trial/&category=classic&postPage=1

I wouldn't be too sure about this, but SD cards with NFC chips integrated have been looked at.
Edit - can't put in a link yet, so just google NFC SD card and there a articles on this.
How useful this would be for us remains to be seen. I don't think the NFC drivers are loaded into the passion release...
More than likely, we'll all have changed phones by the time NFC is widespread. I wouldn't get the Nexus S though

is it really possible?

[thoughts] What the S5 needs to do before April 11th to earn my money

Well, THAT happened 10 hours ago........
The launch for the S5 came and my enjoyment faded pretty quickly. You can see from my track record in my signature that I've been a pretty loyal customer of Samsung for quite some time now, and this may be the first Galaxy launch that I won't have a pre-order in the system. Other than stepping away from the Galaxy line to pick up the Atrix 4G, the first mass produced phone with a fingerprint scanner, coincidentally, I've enjoyed only Samsung phones for the last 4 years. The "premium version" of the S5 was supposed to be 5th in line, what with the 20MP camera, metal body, G-Note 3 battery size, 5.25" screen - you've seen it all and read it all, it didn't show up today. Now unless Samsung is about to pull the biggest stunt they've ever pulled, the Unpacked5 event is in the books and we're not getting anything more than what we got today.
Is there any positive that came out of this event? Sure! USB 3.0 is a big thing for me as I have lots of 3.0 gear and want that from my next phone, it's dust and water resistant, cool fingerprint scanner providing it works flawlessly unlike the one on the iThing, updated TouchWiz which (try not to judge) I actually like a little bit, the wearables, the bigger focus on health, better processor, camera, and connectivity, but then comes the let downs, especially for S4 owners. Same 1080p screen at almost the same size, same 2GB of memory, almost the exact same front camera, soon to be the same OS (again, I like TW so I'm sticking it out on 4.3 until the TW 4.4.2 comes out), same plastic body that I don't necessarily mind, but would have appreciated a little change other than just putting dimples in the back cover, and probably worst of all to me, they're offering it in a 16GB format again after what they just did to us who pre-ordered and / or early adopted the S4, sticking us with next to nothing for internal space because they believe everyone has kids and needs to have likely a ton of space dedicated to a kid mode with pre-installed games and crap. I'm single and not looking for that anytime soon!!! It's like they claimed to listen to their customers but only those who are married, have children, want a "modern glam look," whatever the hell that means, and work out enough to bring their phone with them while exercising!
Damn that's a lot of negatives so far. So what can Samsung do between now and launch to earn my money short of releasing their ultra premium version that was supposed to exist but doesn't, and calling this one the S5 Neo? Let's take a look, and please, feel free to help me add to this list!
Ship the phone with an unlocked bootloader - I know, fat chance, right? But if you don't want people complaining about lack of storage, let us kill it off as we see fit! I also know it isn't up to Samsung on this, the carriers are the ones being douchebags about it, but Samsung put their foot down with them previously by stopping them from dictating all the individual revisions when they launched the SIII, making them all the same shape and size, so why can't they force their hand on this in the sake of making even the smallest group of their customers happy - those that truly use the phone for what it was meant for!
Negate the 16GB version - this is obvious, why the hell is this even a thing anymore with Samsung.... just get rid of it if you're not going to slim down this ridiculously large ROM of yours! Ship with the 32GB at minimum and announce the 64GB as well. iThings do this as a standard now, and while iSheep love to keep their music on their device and we have this little thing called external storage and another little thing called Google Music, we don't have to, but seriously, cut the crap and ditch the 16GB model!
Allow us to remove certain features we just aren't going to use, EVER - as I stated already, I don't have kids and don't need a Kids Mode. If you aren't going to let us root the thing AND aren't going to launch it with more than 16GB, let me get rid of the damn Kids Mode. Or the health features. Or anything else I decide useless or unnecessary. When looking at pics of the camera settings on the S5, I'm able to download more features as I see fit - why not make some of this crap downloadable and not don't ship it with the device? Why not make an Aroma-like installer when you first boot it and say "hey, would you like all of this crap or just some of it?" like any PC software does when it installs something - Typical or Custom installation. Sounds like I'm asking for a lot here, but really, I'm asking to not be forced a lot that I really won't use. And before you comment that if I don't need it, don't buy it in the first place, there are so many things I love about my S4 and TouchWiz that I'm not planning to part with in order to have "a phone," my N7 has a purpose and it isn't so I can keep the screen on when I need it just by looking at it. It does great for playing movies on a trip but not for letting me change the channel of my big TV when I want to watch a blockbuster movie....
Ship with at least the S805 processor for crying out loud - if you're not going to blow us away with something new and powerful, at least ship it with the very latest processor this time from Qualcomm. The 800 has been out for months, the 801 is obviously an incremental update over the 800, and the 805 isn't that much better, but at least give us the goods instead of just going along with the same processor found in the N5 and G-Note 3. I don't think we've heard which one for sure will be included, but from what I've read, so far they say it's the 800 or the 801. EDIT - it's the 801, confirmed by Qualcomm....
Include wireless charging in the box - I shouldn't have to say this, wireless charging is now old technology, the SIII had the capability but not the attention or love needed for Samsung to just release the official cover, the S4 cover took 3 months to post online for sale, and with all the competition shipping their phones with it included, why aren't we able to get it without paying $50+ for it? I used a 50% off coupon to get it for $25, but that's $25 more than I should have spent after being let down on a promise that the SIII was supposed to be able to do it on a phone with nearly useless internal storage....
Sell us some legit accessories this time, namely a car dock - I'm always impressed when people recognize me from my review on the only working car dock for the S4 since Samsung decided to screw around with the whole thing and make my Infuse dock useless. It worked on the Skyrocket and SIII, and would have fit the S4 except it wasn't possible to get the thing working properly by charging and outputting dock audio on it, so it's collecting dust in a box right now. Sure, I get it, you want to sell me something new instead of letting me use the same one for my last phone, and that's different than what you are doing (or didn't do?) with the wireless charging cover, but in this situation, you're not even selling me one! The S4 sold tens of millions of devices, did you stop and think that maybe ONE of them would be going in a car and being used for playing music or navigating that owner safely from one place to another?
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That's all I got for now, I'm sure we can come up with more and while I highly doubt Samsung is listening to people like me, one of their 200M customers (I'd like to think I counted 4 times for buying 4 iterations of the Galaxy line), there's always a chance someone is listening. I bet they'll listen when they're trying to figure out why the sales figures are going to be monumentally lower this go-round, that's for sure!!!
A note to fanboys of all kinds, Samsung, HTC, Nokia, iThing, etc - let's keep it clean here, please. You haven't heard me bash anyone else here, even Samsung really, so please don't get this thread locked on me. I'm sure you have witty comments like Nokia and HTC have today, with their "Samesung," "Buyers Remose," and even the most original ones like telling me that you're disappointed or this phone is ugly.... As if we haven't seen those comments before. Be original if Samsung isn't, post something relevant to the discussion if you're going to post at all! I don't waste my time on writing this stuff to insult others, so don't do it to insult me. If you were never considering buying it, you don't have any reason to comment on here because nothing you're going to say will come across as helpful to myself or others. If you were considering buying it or even, dare I say switching from another brand, or actually will be buying this phone - let's discuss intelligently your reasons why!
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FM radio..
In Slovenia in past month we have major electric blackdown becouse of mother nature - no internet no nothing.. but FM radio did work.. on my S2 I could still listen what is happening, but on newer device.. bljah.. must have tool which cost them 1 euro cent per device..
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I agree with all you say. Particularly about wireless charging, and accessories which get launched with fanfare and then never see the light of day. The other thing they could do is to put one of the new gear items in the box too. That would be a good sweetener. Lol.
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NO KNOX!!! Or forget about Custom ROMs and warranty.

redzion said:
FM radio..
In Slovenia in past month we have major electric blackdown becouse of mother nature - no internet no nothing.. but FM radio did work.. on my S2 I could still listen what is happening, but on newer device.. bljah.. must have tool which cost them 1 euro cent per device..
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How do you know it doesn't ?

Two points here:
1. I see you are American, and that in the US the carriers **** in their customers' heads when it comes to freedom. The international S4 has an unlocked bootloader, it has been like that since the original S.
2. The Snapdragon 805 isn't available yet, sadly.
And why isn't 2GB of RAM enough? I have 300+ apps here, 9 accounts syncing and available RAM never goes below 700MB.

I'm going to point something out to everyone here that wants Samsung to get rid of security features such as locked bootloaders or Knox.
We are the minority. Do you Expect Samsung to tailor to us and risk the average consumer's information and safety so people can run an AOSP build or a custom kernel?
Ship the phone with an unlocked bootloader - I know, fat chance, right? But if you don't want people complaining about lack of storage, let us kill it off as we see fit! I also know it isn't up to Samsung on this, the carriers are the ones being douchebags about it, but Samsung put their foot down with them previously by stopping them from dictating all the individual revisions when they launched the SIII, making them all the same shape and size, so why can't they force their hand on this in the sake of making even the smallest group of their customers happy - those that truly use the phone for what it was meant for!
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While I'm not excusing the US carriers for doing this, but why do you think they try to steer people away from rooting and unlocking the bootloader? People mess up, brick their phone, and then try to do a warranty claim on them. They're protecting their profits, and as a business you cannot blame them for that. Anyone else here would do the same thing to retain profits. And what do you mean "use the phone for what it was meant for?" The phone is meant to be a mobile multimedia cellular device, which in fact still does on the software it ships with no problem.
Negate the 16GB version - this is obvious, why the hell is this even a thing anymore with Samsung.... just get rid of it if you're not going to slim down this ridiculously large ROM of yours! Ship with the 32GB at minimum and announce the 64GB as well. iThings do this as a standard now, and while iSheep love to keep their music on their device and we have this little thing called external storage and another little thing called Google Music, we don't have to, but seriously, cut the crap and ditch the 16GB model!
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I do agree with this, I don't see too much point of the 16gb version. Still at least gives you a start of 10gb of storage at least.
Allow us to remove certain features we just aren't going to use, EVER - as I stated already, I don't have kids and don't need a Kids Mode. If you aren't going to let us root the thing AND aren't going to launch it with more than 16GB, let me get rid of the damn Kids Mode. Or the health features. Or anything else I decide useless or unnecessary. When looking at pics of the camera settings on the S5, I'm able to download more features as I see fit - why not make some of this crap downloadable and not don't ship it with the device? Why not make an Aroma-like installer when you first boot it and say "hey, would you like all of this crap or just some of it?" like any PC software does when it installs something - Typical or Custom installation. Sounds like I'm asking for a lot here, but really, I'm asking to not be forced a lot that I really won't use. And before you comment that if I don't need it, don't buy it in the first place, there are so many things I love about my S4 and TouchWiz that I'm not planning to part with in order to have "a phone," my N7 has a purpose and it isn't so I can keep the screen on when I need it just by looking at it. It does great for playing movies on a trip but not for letting me change the channel of my big TV when I want to watch a blockbuster movie....
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You can disable features you don't need. But just because you decide a feature you think is useless or unnecessary, does not translate to everyone else will think this too. I like the kids mode feature, I've got kids and nephews that get my phone somehow all the time.(Anyone with kids can attest to that too! ) I'm sure people will love this feature.
Ship with at least the S805 processor for crying out loud - if you're not going to blow us away with something new and powerful, at least ship it with the very latest processor this time from Qualcomm. The 800 has been out for months, the 801 is obviously an incremental update over the 800, and the 805 isn't that much better, but at least give us the goods instead of just going along with the same processor found in the N5 and G-Note 3. I don't think we've heard which one for sure will be included, but from what I've read, so far they say it's the 800 or the 801.
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This is Qualcomm's area right here, ARM cpus are following the development of x86 cpus. Meaning it's reached a point now where development for ARM cores is slowing down, tremendously. We probably won't see any groundbreaking ARM cpu's come out for maybe at least a year or so now, took x86 cpus years to show good and cost effective performance gains.
Include wireless charging in the box - I shouldn't have to say this, wireless charging is now old technology, the SIII had the capability but not the attention or love needed for Samsung to just release the official cover, the S4 cover took 3 months to post online for sale, and with all the competition shipping their phones with it included, why aren't we able to get it without paying $50+ for it? I used a 50% off coupon to get it for $25, but that's $25 more than I should have spent after being let down on a promise that the SIII was supposed to be able to do it on a phone with nearly useless internal storage....
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Now you're just being greedy.
Sell us some legit accessories this time, namely a car dock - I'm always impressed when people recognize me from my review on the only working car dock for the S4 since Samsung decided to screw around with the whole thing and make my Infuse dock useless. It worked on the Skyrocket and SIII, and would have fit the S4 except it wasn't possible to get the thing working properly by charging and outputting dock audio on it, so it's collecting dust in a box right now. Sure, I get it, you want to sell me something new instead of letting me use the same one for my last phone, and that's different than what you are doing (or didn't do?) with the wireless charging cover, but in this situation, you're not even selling me one! The S4 sold tens of millions of devices, did you stop and think that maybe ONE of them would be going in a car and being used for playing music or navigating that owner safely from one place to another?
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I do agree with this, but also at the same time there are 100s of other companies making accessories that Samsung does not make.
Samsung is not going to tailor the phone just for one person or a small group, they're doing it for what they believe are the best choices for their devices. Looking at their track record of the Galaxy line up, I'd say they've got it down pretty good.

Why do u need a 2k screen on a 5" device? It eats battery life, it bogs down cpu and gpu performance for something that your eyes can't notice. I cant even see a pixel on my s4.
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My wishlist for S5 -Premium
1. 5.2" inches screen in body-size of S4. It's not too hard if they look at LG G2.
2. Radio FM, and playable via loudspeaker.
3. Good camera in low light condition.
4. Smaller bezel, by aluminum.
5. QHD display.
6. Better performed in drop-test, maybe
7. Keep removable battery + external SDcard.
8. Snapdragon 805 or Exynos 64bit octa-cores.
9. Only 1 "main" international version, both have LTE-A, 4K video rec etc...
10. Wireless charging included.
11. Ram 3G
12. At least 32 GB internal memory, like Note 3.
13. Fingerprint inside screen.
14. Max brightness at 600nit, like Note3.
15. Flash Xenon for camera and flash led for Camcorder.
16. 120 fps video recording at 1080p
17. Not too heavy. <150g.
18. Clearer audio recording, noise reduction.
19. Stereo sound on louder speaker like HTC One.
20. A better earphone with improved DAC
21. Sapphire glass for screen and camera lens.
22. Dust and water resistant is good, but I hope it will not affect the bezels.
23. Remove Samsung logo in the front and rear. Just Galaxy.
24. Note 3 fake leather still better than this S5C, or aluminum body.
25. Working, interchangeable for S-pen or any stylus pen, docking, etc
26. Front camera 5MP, rear 18MP
27. Hot plugged battery, SIM and microSD card without restart phone.
28. Include an projector like Galaxy Beam
29. USB 3.1
30. Removable and downloadable all bloatware, Knox, gesture...
31. 3000 mAh battery
32. New flat Touchwiz, it's still ugly.
33. Touchwiz fully runnable in ART and compatible with any pixel density.
34. Free lags, especially open the contacts/dialer must be faster.
35. Dual boot Android & WP, maybe triple with Ubuntu or GPE rom.
36. Update firmware at least 24 months, not like i9300.
37. Not too many versions in worldwide.
38. For some sharing features like Galaxy Beam, Samsung should share this app to works on other Android devices, (now we only have Android Beam).
The same for SS smart watch, smartTV....
39. Still support Adobe flash (it's not SS or GG obligation, but I hope it).
40. Improved airview and air gestures in smarter way than before (Example: hover finger on the links help user preview link, not zooming like now). Open the API for all the sensors function and support the developers to create much good app based on them.

dandroid13 said:
Two points here:
1. I see you are American, and that in the US the carriers **** in their customers' heads when it comes to freedom. The international S4 has an unlocked bootloader, it has been like that since the original S.
2. The Snapdragon 805 isn't available yet, sadly.
And why isn't 2GB of RAM enough? I have 300+ apps here, 9 accounts syncing and available RAM never goes below 700MB.
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When kitkat was being written all the engineers had to use a smart phone with only 512 mb of RAM.
This will be moot tho with TouchWiz which is the most bloated god awful software on Android. 2gb IS enough yet the s4 still suffered from lag.
With the newer processors not being available yet Samsung should have focused on design. They put zero effort into that. This will be their first flop in the galaxy line. And by flop I mean by their standards. It will still sell millions.
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fernando sor said:
When kitkat was being written all the engineers had to use a smart phone with only 512 mb of RAM.
This will be moot tho with TouchWiz which is the most bloated god awful software on Android. 2gb IS enough yet the s4 still suffered from lag.
With the newer processors not being available yet Samsung should have focused on design. They put zero effort into that. This will be their first flop in the galaxy line. And by flop I mean by their standards. It will still sell millions.
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I have minimal lag here, but even Nexus can lag, it's not just TW or Sense.

adichandra said:
Why do u need a 2k screen on a 5" device? It eats battery life, it bogs down cpu and gpu performance for something that your eyes can't notice. I cant even see a pixel on my s4.
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this is so true. people just want a better spec sheet not realizing going above 1080p will actually lower benchmarks particularly with the s800 and 801 being the only SoC available now. To get something you probably wont even notice you will be sacrificing just about everything else performance wise.
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I have minimal lag here, but even Nexus can lag, it's not just TW or Sense.
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Come on It was a pretty common bug on the s4. I have a Samsung tab note 10.1 and it lags considerably.
I've had numerous HTC phones over the years and sense has been toned down quite a bit. sense 3.0 was a system draining nightmare.
I really don't think you can compare a straight android ROM to A samsung rom and say with a straight face this makes no difference on performance or lag.
Just compare the size of a nexus 7 rom to any s4 rom.

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Come on It was a pretty common bug on the s4. I have a Samsung tab note 10.1 and it lags considerably.
I've had numerous HTC phones over the years and sense has been toned down quite a bit. sense 3.0 was a system draining nightmare.
I really don't think you can compare a straight android ROM to A samsung rom and say with a straight face this makes no difference on performance or lag.
Just compare the size of a nexus 7 rom to any s4 rom.
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Sure, the Note 10.1 is slow, but the problem isn't how light or heavy the ROM is, the lag happens because the Java-based Android Runtime isn't a optimized as iOS, for example.

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Sure, the Note 10.1 is slow, but the problem isn't how light or heavy the ROM is, the lag happens because the Java-based Android Runtime isn't a optimized as iOS, for example.
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It's actually dalvik at runtime. Dalvik virtual machine and kitkat is optimized quite well.
When you add a huge amount of code on top of that of course it will change the performance.
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It's actually dalvik at runtime. Dalvik virtual machine and kitkat is optimized quite well.
When you add a huge amount of code on top of that of course it will change the performance.
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Sure, but it'll never be as good as iOS or WP, sadly.
Anyway, here's a closer look at the new TW, and, you guys can kill me, but I really like it. http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...z-what-changed-with-Samsungs-software_id53163

dandroid13 said:
Sure, but it'll never be as good as iOS or WP, sadly.
Anyway, here's a closer look at the new TW, and, you guys can kill me, but I really like it. http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...z-what-changed-with-Samsungs-software_id53163
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Actually that's a matter of opinion. My nexus 7 2013 and HTC one run as well as any iOS device I've played with. And they're of course other factors such iOS locked down system, boring home screen, no widgets, tiny screen etc.
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Saw today a tweet from O2. 661 Euro. That is a lot of money. Think I have to pass.

anubius said:
Saw today a tweet from O2. 661 Euro. That is a lot of money. Think I have to pass.
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Damn.

[Confirmed] [Official] Specs and Features of the G4

Here are the various specs and features of the LG G4 confirmed via PCMag's Live Coverage of the G4 event available here:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2483345,00.asp
Display
5.5-inch QHD IPS Quantum Display (25% brighter, 20% better colour reproduction)
Rear-Camera
16MP f/1.8 aperture Camera w/ unique colour spectrum sensor. New manual mode has shutter speed, ISO 2.0, white balance, RAW format. Laser auto-focus in .276 seconds. Camera app launches in 0.6 seconds, take picture by double-clicking on vol-down button. 2x Image-stabilization including the Z axis. "Closest we have ever come to emulating what we see with our naked eyes."
Front-Camera
8MP front-camera with "gesture-shot" launching
GUI
LG UX 4.0 "Human centric UX takes into consideration the unique needs of every user."
CPU/GPU/SoC
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 64-bit 808 Hex-Core (2+4 @ 2GHz) Processor with X10 LTE Cat 6&7 (X10LTE Modem has DL speeds of 450Mbps)
- Adreno 418 GPU (Natively captures 4k video) "20% faster than the G3". Uses special graphics RAM that puts the CPU to sleep when displaying still-frames, allows battery use reduction by up to 11%.
- 3GB Dual-channel LPDDR3 RAM @933MHz (14.9GB/s)
- 32GB Internal Memory
- MicroSD slot (Up to 2TB)
- Bluetooth 4.1
- USB 2.0
- A-GPS
- WiFi 802.11 a/b/g/b/ac
- 4k Slimport HDMI output
- NFC
Platform
Android 5.1 Lollipop w/ LG UX 4.0 "Human-centric UX"
Battery
Removable 3,000Mah battery "More than a full day on a single charge thanks to battery-use reductions"
Sensor Features
Sensor-assisted positioning for better indoor location.
Unique Device Features
- Leather backing "Glass on the back attracts fingerprints" (Plastic backing is still offered)
- Slim-arc design (Curved phone at 3000R) "Slim-arc makes it 20% more durable on drops"
- 100GB of Google Drive storage included
- LG G4 owners who drive Volkswagens can use MirrorLink for a car interface.
- LG G4 will come with a FREE extra battery and MicroSD card if you pre-order(Praise the lawd)
Event photos
Here: https://twitter.com/pcmaglive
All in all looks like a really solid successor to the G3. What do you guys think?

I had a G2, then the G3, and unless it's crazy expensive I'll pick up one of the leather back G4 models. I've tried the Droid Turbo, One M8, and S6 in between and none of them were as good as my G2/G3. Once root is released for the Verizon variant I'll be picking it up.

glad I bought a sammy s6 edge after seeing this..

Wireless charging? On the Droid-Life video when he takes off the back (2:59) you can see the copper conducting tape and thin electronic board in the backside cover = implies wireless charging out of the box.
Also, it is OIS 2.0 with them, not OIS.

No wireless charging btw..
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since stupidphones i didn get any LG phones
i liked to buy G3 because of design but reviews... i didn't like result of reviews
Now i like G4 features and design so i m w8ing for some reviews to see its performance & quality
but I think it s worthy to buy it
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no wireless charging or fingerprint scanner... disapointing

Tank87 said:
no wireless charging or fingerprint scanner... disapointing
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Agreed.
No fingerprint scanner = FAIL
Wider dimensions = FAIL
After months of waiting for the Lg G4, and am very disappointed that I will NOT be buying the G4.
I'm hoping Samsung releases a version of the S6 with a removable battery and SD. (S6 Active?)

Yes wireless charging with Quick Circle Case

tt c6 said:
Agreed.
No fingerprint scanner = FAIL
Wider dimensions = FAIL
After months of waiting for the Lg G4, and am very disappointed that I will NOT be buying the G4.
I'm hoping Samsung releases a version of the S6 with a removable battery and SD. (S6 Active?)
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Wow seems a little harsh. Fingerprint scanner is irrelevant to 99% of buyers but removable battery and microSD is important to much more. Samsung's interface and most everything else about the S6 is a fail. But it's cheap and made cheap so it will appeal to a lot of lemmings.
I am one that's waiting to see how the dev community is able to work with the device before I jump in and this would be my first non-HTC device in 4-5 years. On paper this has more going for it based on my needs and usage than anything else but the final decision for me will be made once the devs get their hands on it.
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So I saw this image and wondered, what is this area, NFC antenna or could it be wireless charging?

They don't have a physical home button, where would they fit a fingerprint scanner? Besides, the one on the S6 requires a re-swipe a lot.
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wase4711 said:
glad I bought a sammy s6 edge after seeing this..
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Tell me what you like/dislike about the S6 edge...if you were to sell one to me how would you do it? I am leaning towards the G4. If you can help me with this I will tell you what features have me leaning towards the G4 and its not because I currently have a G2. I will give you a hint....having a removable battery is a plus, but not a priority (My G2's battery is not removable.) Thank you in advance..
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@ThePhoneGeek That looks very similar to the apparatus on the G2. Uncertain though, as the NFC antenna is handled alongside the wireless charging capabilities on the vs980.

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@ThePhoneGeek That looks very similar to the apparatus on the G2. Uncertain though, as the NFC antenna is handled alongside the wireless charging capabilities on the vs980.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking but thought it was interesting.

I wonder if LG will go crazy with the over-sharpening of the display again. If so I'm definitely going to pass on it.

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They don't have a physical home button, where would they fit a fingerprint scanner? Besides, the one on the S6 requires a re-swipe a lot.
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Fingerprint works extremely well on my S6, on par with the iPhone 6.
Also works with multiple fingers, in any angle.

jpaulwaite said:
@ThePhoneGeek That looks very similar to the apparatus on the G2. Uncertain though, as the NFC antenna is handled alongside the wireless charging capabilities on the vs980.
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Model which was observed yesterday was korean G4 F500 named similar to G3 F460, you see, bump in index. So, F500 has only NFC antenna in the cover, and Qi supposed to reside in separately sold QuickCase, but only in korean's model. The int'national model H810 or H815 has HFC and Qi contacts so presumably it will have Qi wireless charging antenna right from the box as like as G3 had

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Fingerprint works extremely well on my S6, on par with the iPhone 6.
Also works with multiple fingers, in any angle.
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I had it for a week and it did work pretty well, but there were times it failed and I had to re-swipe
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ThePhoneGeek said:
Wow seems a little harsh. Fingerprint scanner is irrelevant to 99% of buyers but removable battery and microSD is important to much more. Samsung's interface and most everything else about the S6 is a fail. But it's cheap and made cheap so it will appeal to a lot of lemmings.
I am one that's waiting to see how the dev community is able to work with the device before I jump in and this would be my first non-HTC device in 4-5 years. On paper this has more going for it based on my needs and usage than anything else but the final decision for me will be made once the devs get their hands on it.
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Yes I saw this too, I assumed it was the wireless charging antenna but I suppose it could be the NFC too.

I honestly have no use for a finger print scanner, since I use android wear and have my watch and car as a trusted device. I don't understand why a finger print scanner is a big deal lol.

Is it true that the NOTE 5 doesn't (DOES NOT) have an IR BLASTER (remote)

Is it true that the NOTE 5 doesn't (DOES NOT) have an IR BLASTER (remote) ???
if it doesnt that is my total deal breaker ontop of the no sd card support. wtf samsung is going backwards not forwards. im seriously considering xiaomi

XeoNoX said:
Is it true that the NOTE 5 doesn't (DOES NOT) have an IR BLASTER (remote) ???
if it doesnt that is my total deal breaker ontop of the no sd card support. wtf samsung is going backwards not forwards. im seriously considering xiaomi
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It's very true!
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princeasi said:
It's very true!
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thanks for the confirmation...damn that blows...samsung removing features ever since the s5....best phone was the s5....IR blaster...water resistant..sd card...removable battery... cmon samsung.

Its a fact jack
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I felt how you do while deciding if I should get the N5. After purchasing it, I can say I have no regrets. The features of the N5 are beastly! The ir is not missed as I thought it would be!
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Yeah it doesn't have it, but I have not cared so far.

No IR blaster and the headphone jack has been moved to the bottom.

yea havent missed the "removed" features in the slightest. honestly, aside from the loss of a SD card slot I could care less. I have never even used the IR blaster except when i was trolling my friends as they were trying to watch TV.

Margucci said:
yea havent missed the "removed" features in the slightest. honestly, aside from the loss of a SD card slot I could care less. I have never even used the IR blaster except when i was trolling my friends as they were trying to watch TV.
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LOL, that was always fun. ive done that a few times and would love to throw it in iphone users face ...like your iphone cant do that!! haha ....but im not laughing anymore as Samsung is going the way of iPhone. I actually did use it for my personal uses at home...esp with the window AC and my tv. I kinda already got spoiled with the IR blaster to the point my next phone has to have one. I dont know why samsung is removing features instead of adding features...they are try to be similar to iphone and Samsung will fade out to iphone if they keep it up. as apple tends to have more "loyal customers"...Power android users like features and good hardware and thats something Samsung is not delivering as of late...instead samsung is opting for visutal imporvments with slight hardware upgrades and removing features.

the galaxy line has been plagued by feature bloat. i assume that they did their research and didnt remove features that a great many of their customers were using on a regular basis.

XeoNoX said:
Is it true that the NOTE 5 doesn't (DOES NOT) have an IR BLASTER (remote) ???
if it doesnt that is my total deal breaker ontop of the no sd card support. wtf samsung is going backwards not forwards. im seriously considering xiaomi
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Why do you jump in whenever a new phone comes out trying to make people disappointed , you did this in the S6 forum and now here, If you don't want to buy the phone it is up to you, but please don't make others feel bad about their phones.
Note: Below is a link to your S6 thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/disappointed-s6-list-reasons-t3044369

IR Blaster was a novelty I used only a couple times, but I had secretly hoped for waterproofing on the N5 because I like bubble baths and Netflix. Whatever... I'm sure the novelty would have worn off quickly for that too. (read: I'll bet those golden tickets make the chocolate taste terrible!)

shafez said:
Why do you jump in whenever a new phone comes out trying to make people disappointed , you did this in the S6 forum and now here, If you don't want to buy the phone it is up to you, but please don't make others feel bad about their phones.
Note: Below is a link to your S6 thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/disappointed-s6-list-reasons-t3044369
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becuase i was highly anticipating both of them and both of them got screwed hardware wise...they removed water proofing, moved headphone jack, now they removed the IR blaster on note 5, and they removed sd card...what are they making??? a fake iphone...if i wanted a iphone i would get one. all the features i liked they are removing. Its ok though not my problem in the long run...when samsung sales are down they will wonder why...cuz im sure i wont be the only one putting my money into a different android phone.

Who even starts a thread with is it true. Are you borat?
If the IR blaster is a deal breaker you need some real priority realignment. Go get yourself a logitech harmony or something and bugger off

Lol 2x at that last post.

I don't really care the IR is gone, never used it anyways for one simple reason: I can use my TV remote and perfectly control it without even looking, just by touching the buttons. So although some apps would allow me to build a super sophisticated macro system to control everything up to the second, it was always annoying i had to look at screen all the time to make sure im pressing the right buttons...so i never really used it anyways.

phil.W said:
Who even starts a thread with is it true. Are you borat?
If the IR blaster is a deal breaker you need some real priority realignment. Go get yourself a logitech harmony or something and bugger off
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with that mentality you might as well just carry a plain phone if they were to remove all "extra features"...if they stripped all the features you could come up with a replacement device for every feature they removed.
example of your logic:
no removable battery = carry charger
no removable sd card = buy larger capacity phone or get a mp3 player or external video player or flash drive to carry your files
not water proof = get a water proof case
no ir blaster = just buy a remote
no music player = just buy a mp3 player
no videos = use a laptop
headphone jack not in place u want it = buy another music device that does have it in right location
screen not good enough for you = go buy a 4k tv
my point was Samsung is removing "handy" features instead of adding them....Samsung is going backwards instead of forwards.

It is cost versus desirability.
Obviously samsung did some research and decided that the IR sensors cost was too high versus the number of people that used it.
They didn't remove it just to annoy you, I assure you.

note5 and s6 edge is like iphone clone. if iphone dont have ir buster, samsung phones cant have it !

netnerd said:
note5 and s6 edge is like iphone clone. if iphone dont have ir buster, samsung phones cant have it !
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The thing is no one used it. Sure there are a few oddballs out there that did, but why include something in the hardware that a vast majority find useless. Like guy said 2 posts above, there were very likely focus groups that helped refine the final product and an IR blaster just didn't make the cut.

Flagship? Disappointment!

Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?

Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.

Technically the Note 8 can support the 1GB speeds. The Note 9 will as well.
https://phandroid.com/2017/09/08/att-gigabit-lte-galaxy-note-8/
5G is not a real tech yet, it's actually called 5G evolution which is a fast LTE which the Note supports.
https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ess/why-atts-5g-evolution-isnt-really-5g.html

nizmoz said:
Technically the Note 8 can support the 1GB speeds. The Note 9 will as well.
https://phandroid.com/2017/09/08/att-gigabit-lte-galaxy-note-8/
5G is not a real tech yet, it's actually called 5G evolution which is a fast LTE which the Note supports.
https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ess/why-atts-5g-evolution-isnt-really-5g.html
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Personally I think the real challenge that Samsung Has is in the processor. Snapdragaon and Exynos have both seen decent improvments over the years but they don't hold a candle to what Apple has done with theirs. Not sure if they will ever win that battle, but I hope they can get closer.
I also believe that we are all going to be blown away by the S10 when it comes out. Samsung is putting ALL of the new HOT stuff they have been working on - INscreen Fingerprint scanner to name one - and I bet there will be bunch more!
I am getting the note 9, I just can't help myself - I am an addict when it comes to these devices - but I am really excited to see what is giong to happen when the S10 comes out.

You're getting too edgy with this. Pie was not relased during the development and 5g is still far away. Talking about the gps thing even my s7edge gets 4meter accuracy while driving what else do u need? An inch of accuracy!

The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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alltaken123 said:
Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.
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Very well said.

onepiece said:
Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?
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Name one note that released with that years version of android.
Complaining about not being on the latest version of android (that was just released) while ignoring all the added samsung functionality is kind of a short sighted comparison..

Good Discussion
alltaken123 said:
Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.
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Alltaken123,
I would definitely hire you as a customer service rep for Samsung! You have a plausible explanation for the concerns mentioned and your words are very well spoken. Thank you.
Couple of points to consider…
On the GPS chip: anybody who has walked the streets of Tokyo using any current smartphone GPS knows the frustration when you walk around the block three times because reflected GPS signals keep causing the blue dot to jump 100’s of meters when you think you are at your destination. It would be great to have the accuracy and reflected signal rejection Broadcom’s new chip promises.
On the “in glass fingerprint recognition“ that feature is dubious when a phone has facial recognition & a great back side fingerprint scanner... but it’s something new to hype.
And now my favorite… Larger batteries and the direction the industry has moved towards. Your explanation of Samsung being extremely cautious makes perfect sense and is a likely driver for their decision. That’s said, Samsung’s A9 realeased in 2016 with a 5,000 mah battery had no issues. Because it had a mid tier CPU it truly delivered 2 days of heavy use.
I probably should put this one in a separate thread but here’s the short version of what’s going on with battery capacities: phone makers match their battery mah capacity to approximately one day’s worth of power consumption. Why? Because when you charge your phone every day you’ll end up wearing the battery out within two years. In the “old days with replaceable batteries“ you could extend the life of your phone a few years by changing the battery. Now with sealed-in batteries you are virtually compelled to buy a new $800 electronic monitoring bracelet every two years. Pretty slick from a business perspective. Before someone jumps in and tells me you can’t have a water resistant phone with a removable battery, let me share my experience with phones in the Japanese domestic market. Japanese have had replaceable batteries in many of their water resistant cell phones since the 1990s. All it takes is a good o-ring and a decent latch. Today, however, Japan is “mostly” onboard with the lucrative (albeit wasteful) sealed-in battery scheme.

nuclearrage said:
The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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5g evolution is already in many cities like dfw. And the note 8 supports it. Full 5g won’t be here anytime in the next couple of years.
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nuclearrage said:
The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.

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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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Another +1 for USEABLE flat glass....and for recognizing the curve as an artsy gimmick. Narrow 2mm bezels are fine. After all the flesh of one’s hand covers anywhere from 2 to 4 mm of bezel/screen anyway.

Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.

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Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.
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Then why do you like the curved glass? It's absolutely not function over form...

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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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I feel exactly the opposite. The curve makes edge swipe gestures far more useful, and I have come to rely on them significantly.

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Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen.
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Not alone! To be honest I just like the way the curved glass looks... I always found it gave the phone a more premium feel. Given the choice I would still take curved over flat edges, even though I don't even use the Edge features. Purely an aesthetic preference for me, but others of course may have different tastes and requirements.

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Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.
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Sometimes the screen protector situation bothers me but Im all for curved glass. Looks sexy

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Then why do you like the curved glass? It's absolutely not function over form...
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I like the curved glass screen because of edge display and the edge features. Yes it can be a but annoying with accidental touches but the trade off is worth it for me.
As far as the screen protector issue, that has nothing to do with Samsung. All those screen protector makers are being cheap and stupid. They make full coverage ones with only adhesive on the sides, and they also make case friendly ones with full adhesive. Why the heck can they not make a full coverage one with full adhesive?! Seems very stupid to me that they are having such a hard time making a dang protector that handles both things.
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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onepiece said:
Another +1 for USEABLE flat glass....and for recognizing the curve as an artsy gimmick. Narrow 2mm bezels are fine. After all the flesh of one’s hand covers anywhere from 2 to 4 mm of bezel/screen anyway.
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It's only a gimmick if you don't find a use for it. I can think of a lot of people that classifies the SPen as a gimmick. I use the heck out of mine, at least I thought I did until I met a guy that has to replace the tip of his SPen every month! He hooked me up with 3 bags of tips a few months ago after I got my Note 8. I haven't even replaced the tip yet for my original one.

I come to rely Alot on the apps edge since I started using the s7 edge. It helps me switch apps much faster than using the recent button. Well we can have apps That do the same thing but the curve makes it very smooth and natural to use

onepiece said:
Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?
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Excited for the Note 9. Pre-ordered the 512gb already.
What does Android P have that Samsung's Oreo does not have more of?
What's the point of hurriedly introducing 5G when the tech is not yet mature. That would make the Note 9 a beta phone which I'm glad it's not.
I agree with the missing GPS chip.
I also agree with a 5kmAh battery
Overall I'm very happy with the Note 9 and consider it a big upgrade over the Note 8.