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Android 8 for SM-G900F

Hi to all SM-G900F fans and for all developers! :laugh:
I'd like to introduce this topic to discuss about the possibility of the Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F to have the new Android 8. Knowing about some amazing improvements that were made to the new Android 8 that will arrive soon, I'd like to know the following:
[ALL FANS] - What do you think about our S5 SM-G900F having an Android 8 ROM? With a booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update, etc.? If that will be possible to the developers apply to the S5 SM-G900F, it would be great or not?
[ALL DEVELOPERS] - What do you think about the idea of creating an Android 8 ROM for a great 2014 phone? It will be possible to do that with all improvements that were claimed for the new Android 8? It will worth that huge effort?
As you can see I love this phone, no doubt about that. :laugh: But, my wish is to have my Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F running Android 8 with all those features that were claimed to have in the new Android OS. If that can be possible, I think it would be amazing for this phone! Because I think the hardware is still good to support newer software and it would be very nice to see an excellent quality/price phone like this to match new ones.
I hope my wish can became true. . .please do not let this phone R.I.P!

7UIS said:
Hi to all SM-G900F fans and for all developers! :laugh:
I'd like to introduce this topic to discuss about the possibility of the Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F to have the new Android 8. Knowing about some amazing improvements that were made to the new Android 8 that will arrive soon, I'd like to know the following:
[ALL FANS] - What do you think about our S5 SM-G900F having an Android 8 ROM? With a booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update, etc.? If that will be possible to the developers apply to the S5 SM-G900F, it would be great or not?
[ALL DEVELOPERS] - What do you think about the idea of creating an Android 8 ROM for a great 2014 phone? It will be possible to do that with all improvements that were claimed for the new Android 8? It will worth that huge effort?
As you can see I love this phone, no doubt about that. :laugh: But, my wish is to have my Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F running Android 8 with all those features that were claimed to have in the new Android OS. If that can be possible, I think it would be amazing for this phone! Because I think the hardware is still good to support newer software and it would be very nice to see an excellent quality/price phone like this to match new ones.
I hope my wish can became true. . .please do not let this phone R.I.P!
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"booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update" Idk if it is possible, but it will be quite hard. If android 8 will come out, we developers WILL DO OUR BEST to get the best out of the s5. Seriously, we try our best but stop saying things like this, developers do this things without wanting anything in advance from you, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT! And please don't open threads like this because it is like opening a thread and just saying "i bought a new phone and i am happy (no **** sherlock lol) "!

tm60405 said:
"booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update" Idk if it is possible, but it will be quite hard. If android 8 will come out, we developers WILL DO OUR BEST to get the best out of the s5. Seriously, we try our best but stop saying things like this, developers do this things without wanting anything in advance from you, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT! And please don't open threads like this because it is like opening a thread and just saying "i bought a new phone and i am happy (no **** sherlock lol) "!
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Yeah, you're absolutely right and I apologize for my behavior. I was only excited about that I just decided to try to share my feelings and thoughts with the XDA Community. I love XDA Developers. It teached me so much about everything related to Android over the years. However, I must follow all the rules and have a good behavior so please feel free to remove/delete this thread.
Once again, I'm sorry for having opened this thread. Just a BIG "thank you" to all developers for the hard work they always do and for all members that share doubts and solutions for everything related to Android.
Best regards,
Lu

(please ignore this thread)
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It's alright to discuss about such things, but never push devs beyond what they can do. You simply show disrespect and it's one of the main reasons why devs give up creating something new.
Regarding Android 8 (Android O), I don't think it's going to be an easy task to port it to our device. At first, on Nougat was hard enough to make everything working (camera being one of the main highlights, since N has a completely revamped camera interface under the hood, like different process handling and stuff). I can't imagine, what O actually brings to the table and in no way it's going be a walk in the park.
And neither battery life nor camera is going to be as good as stock. Blame Samsung and Touchwiz for their closed source nature.

Even if it happens, camera will still suck. Why flash something that makes your phone worst and unstable, just to say that you have the latest android version in "phone about"

I don't know why you are so hyped about it, it has really small changes since Lollipop...

Spyr0s said:
Even if it happens, camera will still suck. Why flash something that makes your phone worst and unstable, just to say that you have the latest android version in "phone about"
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Of course not. It's about to have all the NEW features in your OLD phone (if possible, of course). I think there are several phones (like the Samsung Galaxy S5) that have plenty potencial to run newer software. Besides that, one teacher I had, one day, he told in the classroom that there's no limits when programming, it only depends on our imagination to create solutions. I'm nobody to say that his words are correct or not, but I believe if there's will and hope that things are capable to be made.
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I'd love to see Android 8 on my S5. It is true and it will be always true that the stock TW camera is the best one. It has slow-mo and 1080p60 video (I know that OnePlus camera has 720p90fps slow-mo, but that's not that great comapared to the stock.) But in my opinion, for some picture shooting, it is a great camera with the stock Lineage camera as well. (Maybe one day someone can find Samsung's driver).
Besides that, the S5 runs great with the latest 7.1.2 Android, and I believe that it will run as fast (if not better) with Android O.
Definetly hope for an upcoming information, devs: take your time, make a great rom.

I don't see anything wrong with this topic? The guy just asked if it's possible lol He didn't tell you "MAKE IT NOW!!". About stock android 8 - no. Stock android is boring, even Samsung's version of KitKat has more features than the newest stock android from Google. But some sort of port from, let's say, the Note 8 or the Galaxy S9 would be awesome in my opinion. There already are S8 ports for the KLTE which work with little bugs that will be fixed soon (SkiesROM) or ones that don't really matter that much (DreamUX ROM). Hardware is more than capable. iPhones have super low hardware and Apple updates them for 4-5 years ahead. This means that 'old' 2014 hardware like the S5's can be used perfectly fine even in 2020...with the right developers. BUT, nothing beats official Sammy firmware. Sure, you'll get the new features from android O(reo?) and the new Note8/S9 but bugs are inevitable whereas TouchWiz 6.0.1 is fine in every aspect. I'll stick to my S5 until 2019-2020 and then buy a new S10 or S11 (xd). I just hope that Samsung bring back the features from the S5 like IR blaster, fingerprint scanner on the front, hover view in the gallery and video apps, etc. FM Radio won't hurt too (still envy my S3 Mini for having it, 1%=3h radio) :|

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Why is it taking long
I'm searching for Android 8 daily waiting for any unofficial build or whatever to install and try it
Android 7 got ready only in about 1 and a half week.. That's what i remember at least..

I'm going to be a proud new owner of a Samsung Galaxy S5 Sport! Just ordered yesterday!

FanboyStudios said:
I'm going to be a proud new owner of a Samsung Galaxy S5 Sport! Just ordered yesterday!
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S5 sport??? No such thing
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Edit yes there is lmao just looks like a active and looks good In red

ttocs99 said:
S5 sport??? No such thing
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Edit yes there is lmao just looks like a active and looks good In red
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Lol It came out after the active... I got a blue one

FanboyStudios said:
Lol It came out after the active... I got a blue one
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Wouldn't mind a red one but can't getem in the UK I do t think

ttocs99 said:
Wouldn't mind a red one but can't getem in the UK I do t think
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Would you like a link to one on ebay?

FanboyStudios said:
Would you like a link to one on ebay?
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If you don't mind thanks

ttocs99 said:
If you don't mind thanks
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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/112560349301

FanboyStudios said:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/112560349301
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Why's it going that cheap

ttocs99 said:
Why's it going that cheap
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Its used. And its a few years old

Do you expect there to be a thriving rom scene for the Note 9?

Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.

TEWWY said:
Current S8 user thinking about upgrading to an Exynos Note 9. Having looked at the Note 8 forums it looks like there is very limited development going on there. Do you guys expect things to improve for the new note? I have no interest in android unless there is a decent custom rom I can run!
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Development is occurring less for these types of device for many reasons, but mainly locked bootloader's, price, not really a great need for root anymore. Of course there are folks that need root and use it.
I would love to see a stripped down TouchWiz ROM for the US version that looks like AOSP as much as possible. It'll never happen though sadly.

Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada

This doesn't even make sense, lol
Semantics said:
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If you have no interest in Android unless you can ROM it, you must love iOS and all of it's customization lol.
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Yes, only exynos versions. As for the Note 8, currently there are a few roms out there.

slaydog said:
This doesn't even make sense, lol
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"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.

You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Reading comprehension is your strong point, I see. "I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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slaydog said:
You know what? I apologize. I guess I didn't read the last sentence in his statement... I thought you were merely inferring his attitude until I went back and reread.
Anyway, carry on...
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.

No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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Semantics said:
"I have no interest in Android unless I can ROM it". What choices does that leave in a phone OS? iOS? You can't do anything at all to iOS, which was kind of my point. Android even without flashing ROM's is extremely customizible. Now, if he said I have no interest in the Note 9 unless there are ROM's for it, then, I'd understand. Android, though? That's like the vast majority of the worlds smartphones. You basically have two choices in phone OS.
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It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.

TEWWY said:
It was a poor choice of words, instead of saying I have no interest in android if there are no custom roms, I meant to say I have no interest in buying a new phone if I cant custom rom it. Getting an ios device is not even an option :laugh:.
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That's completely understandable.

Semantics said:
Thanks, and sorry to sound snarky! Going to edit it so I don't make myself look like a douche face.
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No worries. We've both been on XDA for a long time I see, so I know it happens... I'll just try to make sure I read a little closer before replying, LOL
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You both are douche faces! ?
Just kidding... Those were good reads, lol. ??

bamfsig45 said:
Exynos yes a few probably
Snapdragon no, nothing, nada
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They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.

swaze said:
They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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Then they are full of **** lol.
Snapdragon s9 has nothing, no root nada and thats been since April.
Each year security get tighter, and they kill whatever workaround was found before. Only going to get harder not easier.
Eirher buy exynos or a HK snapdragon if you want root, dont rely on workarounds these days
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swaze said:
They say that everytime a snapdragon phone comes out and there is always some sort of development and work around.
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I think they say everytime a Samsung US Snapdragon phone is released, a good Dev disappears lol

I was suprised to see the rom forum was kind of barren compared to when I had my Note 4 and other devices. But that was before I had the phone in hand. Now that I see how easy it is to do most things that used to be much easier with root, it isn't too shocking that it's a little dead over there.

The phone has treble support
you can even get android P on it

Android P {PIE}

When we can expext android P in our beloved Note 8❤

Probably in March or April.
I hope there will be a beta program though.

Or we can get a port of SX earlier? as galaxy 10 will be based on android P

RIPPER said:
When we can expext android P in our beloved Note 8❤
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Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.

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Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
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We can hope for a port on SX or note 9

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We can hope for a port on SX or note 9
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Can you please explain to me what a port on SX or Note 9 means? I thought Google provided free Android through the AOSP. Why can't a developer develop a Note 8 from the raw AOSP code? Is it a too much work? If a port is code from SX or Note 9, does Samsung provide the source code, or does it have to be de-compiled from machine code?
I'm a newbie, and I'm just trying to understand where all this code comes from. I love custom ROMs and know how to install them, but I'm just trying to understand the infrastructure and where all this code comes from other than AOSP.

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Can you please explain to me what a port on SX or Note 9 means? I thought Google provided free Android through the AOSP. Why can't a developer develop a Note 8 from the raw AOSP code? Is it a too much work? If a port is code from SX or Note 9, does Samsung provide the source code, or does it have to be de-compiled from machine code?
I'm a newbie, and I'm just trying to understand where all this code comes from. I love custom ROMs and know how to install them, but I'm just trying to understand the infrastructure and where all this code comes from other than AOSP.
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Sharing you a link where you can understand about the custom rom and building process. Any one can build a rom but he/she have basic knowledge about. Snapdragon chipset are very easy to crack but exynos is hardwork that why we dont much development here plus feature may get reduce in note 8 as custom rom while dilute note 8 features.
Pls read
https://www.androidauthority.com/build-custom-android-rom-720453/

Ripper, you forgot to mention to Huele Fello that AOSP also wouldn't have Samsung's Touchwiz to make the almighty S-Pen work. The Bixby button on the side would also be dead, as well as the Iris scanner,

I guess in next 3 weeks max .

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I guess in next 3 weeks max .
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Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.

Max_Terrible said:
Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
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I am talking about another stuff . Treble was ported to note 8 ( its maybe not public relase but its real ) in sunday . All roms boot , and if i am not wrong , all roms are bugless? Dev is still working on it but soo it should be bugless soon if I am wrong. Try to mess with telegram some more . U'll find it

Mariusz_Trynkiewicz said:
I am talking about another stuff . Treble was ported to note 8 ( its maybe not public relase but its real ) in sunday . All roms boot , and if i am not wrong , all roms are bugless? Dev is still working on it but soo it should be bugless soon if I am wrong. Try to mess with telegram some more . U'll find it
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And what is Treble going to help you in receiving the Pie update for the Note 8? Samsung doesn't officially support it on the Note 8, thus it's pointless. It might only help with custom ROMS with updates a little bit.

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Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
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Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
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Oreo was released to the Note 8 in March of 2018. Not sure why Jason504 thinks we just got it in August??
It would also stand to reason that Android Pie will be released in a similar time table as Oreo. Possibly sooner since Samsung is planning the rollout in January 2019.

I don't know exactly when I got Oreo but it definitely wasn't in March. It was way after that it was May or June when I got the update for my phone. One of the last companies to push the update. Samsung sells more phones than any company and are almost dead last at pushing out updates?

when will we see android pie?

Would be awesome to see if we can get more battery life

First someone has to make a crystal ball.

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Would be awesome to see if ulwe can get more battery life
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If samsung keeps up like in the past note 9 will probably see it around 2019 early or so

TheMadScientist said:
If samsung keeps up like in the past note 9 will probably see it around 2019 early or so
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Oh my lol

mrgwap03 said:
Oh my lol
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Yea the may do a beta program like they did with oreo on s8 but I doubt it.

I highly doubt battery life is going to magically get better. When has it ever?

I'm actually perfectly happy on Oreo. I've never been one to rush to the latest update but then again I never bought Samsung phones for timely OS updates, LOL!

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Oreo came to the Note8 April 2018, for reference.

PsiPhiDan said:
Oreo came to the Note8 April 2018, for reference.
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Thanks for the info. That's crazy lol

Project Treble sounds interesting. Maybe we can get quick updates now.
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Would be awesome to see if we can get more battery life
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Hopefully we see pie by the time Google releases android 10

Does it matter? No sooner the upgrade will posters start to moan about Pie? Happens every upgrade. We have Oreo and its stable, enjoy it. Enjoy your Note 9.
Ryland

Honestly all they need to fix is Exynos battery. I always hated Samsung for slow updates but quite honestly they always had majority of features before they were even introduced to stock Android

I think we're going to get Android Pie right after the Galaxy S10 launches. They wouldn't dare launch it with Oreo on board.

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Does it matter? No sooner the upgrade will posters start to moan about Pie? Happens every upgrade. We have Oreo and its stable, enjoy it. Enjoy your Note 9.
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Not only this. As soon as pie hits people will start asking about android 10 lol

Easy answer. After galaxy s10. If u look at samsung history they have always waited for their flaship device to arrive and shipped with their new version os without ipgrading their pass decives. Why would a note 9 be release with 8.1 while gs9 plus is still running 8.0. They are basically same phone hardware wise. Samsung dont care about updating their old hardware, they care releasing their new hardware with their new software to give people a bigger reason of why u should upgrade. After the honemoon is over then they will release it to their old hardware.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I think early 2019 is great considering they need to smooth everything out before pushing a new software upgrade. Until then we just sit back and enjoy our powerhouse device.

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I'm actually perfectly happy on Oreo. I've never been one to rush to the latest update but then again I never bought Samsung phones for timely OS updates, LOL!
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You can say that again! Timely updates is not Samsung's strong suit.

Planning on purchasing a new Note 9, some questions...

Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.

No
No
Very good
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Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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it all depends on what you install on it.
but for the last question stock is pretty good. especially if device has the latest firmware(software update)

Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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Best way to charge is with a wireless charge pad overnight. That's a slow charge and very easy on the battery. By the end of my 12hr days of moderate talking/texting, the phone is at 80%, and then I use it all night (instead of tv) and it's at 50% when I go to bed. That's with auto brightness, the dark UI (night mode) and no added theme. Dark mode all the apps. It looks gorgeous. I've had it for about four months, and it's an amazing phone. No lag. VERY nice OS (Android 9 + OneUI). Camera app is excellent. Google Cam app would not be better. When you buy a Note9 new, do ALL the updates (Android 8 to 9 and all security patches) right away before installing any apps, and you will have a trouble-free system. Android 9 in most regions does not have call recording. A US unbranded Note9 is bloat-free and great for T-Mobile, because you still get wifi-calling and VoLTE, but for the other carriers, you lose those if you don't get their branded version. If you want to root your phone, you must buy an Exynos or dual-sim Snapdragon version. All US Note9 versions are bootloader-locked and will not root. Ain't happening. This is the first Android setup I've had where it's so good I don't need root (7 of my Androids are rooted and non-stock ROMmed). Note9 is better than Note10. The last great Samsung phone.

If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.

docdg said:
If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
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CDMA has always been terrible.

Nah just this phone

ok thanks guys
It's really betweent his and the S9 for now.

No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.

dave678 said:
No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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bat0nas said:
Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.

I want to buy a 512GB Note9 International for Christmas or so, nice to see everyone is happy with the phone & the updates

dave678 said:
Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
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Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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dave678 said:
Easy. Because I hate Pie.
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Don't go past Oreo Dave. There is more wrong past that than is immediately apparent. Most of the complaints at the play store about apps that used to work and don't anymore is based on not only Pie, but also play store updates that put you in iPhone prison. The apps at the Play Store had to be rewritten to uselessness to remain listed, which made apkpure.com my new friend to download previous versions of apps, and turn off Google Policy Updates at both the play store and my phone. Because I have the 960U, I had to flash to the US UNLOCKED U1 firmware and then disable updates in the configs by following these instructions. The forcing updates by US carriers and play store to strip functionality that protects you appears to be a US deep state driven thing because many nations won't put up with those restrictions and appears to be a U-model-only thing.

There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.

Had zero issues after update.
When I hear people complaining about such things I tend to believe that the problem is not with pie+one_ui but with the people.
Yes there are exceptions.
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bat0nas said:
Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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I have tried it multipe times whenever I go to Costco. By playing around with an S10 and Note 10 Plus and I still hate it.
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There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
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I just hate the look and no AM or PM.

gruuvin said:
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you don't need that, then you can update without worry.
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I would agree with that. Actually, any app other than a dialer that leverages your contacts and call history is hamstrung or no longer works. On Android 10, they purposely killed call recording altogether. Since most calls go VoLTE, the calling parties are the only ones deprived of a record of their calls. Everyone else in the chain keeps a copy.
Android established its market by being the open choice, and actually the only choice for non-Apple after Steve Balmer pulled the plug on the Windows Mobile/Pocket PC. Even rooting was a normal option without permanently disabling the capabilities of your device. The progression has been to force IOS limitations upon Android, with more an more access to your private information by phone makers and Google. As with LTE-A, It's time for a non-proprietary mobile operating system that is beholden to its users instead of companies and governments. Vendors can plug their Touchwiz or whatever into that.
As for CDMA, Qualcomm used it as a product name because it incorporates cdma as a technology. The only reason GSM didn't go with it is CDMA as a product name and technology is because it was owned by Qualcomm. GSM service was poor, expensive, and impractical in many areas until later when GSM went to cdma. The EU legislated against CDMA, and this affected their orbiting countries. Developed countries went with CDMA, including the US, Japan, South Korea, Russia, etc., and even countries in the EU bolted GSM for CDMA. The defining moment came at 4G time when Sprint gained control of Clearwire, the owner of the new 4G, Wi-MAX. This caused Verizon to bolt Wi-MAX. Their clout plus the emerging Cingular/ATT network caused Sprint to realize they couldn't pull this off and they also bolted. That enabled LTE to gain critical mass and LTE-A to become the IP of cellular networks. With the problem becoming usable cellular bandwidth, and with a usable de facto worldwide standard for wireless communication, the FCC and similar organizations could now force out the 3G and earlier technologies that were tying up bandwidth. Because CDMA is locked to the wireless network vendor and cannot be shared, it is logical for it to be the first on the chopping block. There are no longer any Wi-MAX phones, but Clearwire, who was and is many years ahead, has gone on to provide the wireless matrix for many of the largest cities around the world with user technologies at their perimeter, of which 5G is one. GSM's claim to fame has never been one of technical superiority, it has been openness and interoperability. However, the US did something similar when it developed the DARPANET/INTERNET by not allowing proprietary protocols and building out IP.

When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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dave678 said:
I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.

gruuvin said:
When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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Ahh the old look out the window comment. You live in Alaska you're ****ed so you need AM and PM. Also it's on phones for years until the notch trend rolled in and they axed it. If it's useless then why did so many people beg Samsung to bring it back during the Pie beta test?