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[Q] Other OS?

I know my moto x android version works flawlesly out of the box with some xposed mods just to personalize it, but today I decided to check the development section to see if there are some cool and interesting things to flash.
To my surprise I haven't seen much action there, I would have expected some port of firefox os or at least ubuntu (like there was for the Samsung Galaxy SIII) why is that? I'm not a developer so unfortunately I lack the knowledge to do something like that or I would.
Are there really no moto x owners wanting to try some (probably broken ) alternative OSes?

DBBGBA said:
I know my moto x android version works flawlesly out of the box with some xposed mods just to personalize it, but today I decided to check the development section to see if there are some cool and interesting things to flash.
To my surprise I haven't seen much action there, I would have expected some port of firefox os or at least ubuntu (like there was for the Samsung Galaxy SIII) why is that? I'm not a developer so unfortunately I lack the knowledge to do something like that or I would.
Are there really no moto x owners wanting to try some (probably broken ) alternative OSes?
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If you lack the knowledge, learn lol.. Not all of the Moto x can get an unlocked bootloader so development is restricted or limited to a certain extent for some devices like the Verizon Moto X or the ATT version . But even though that's no excuse, most people prefer stock and decide not to go through the hassle of porting a different OS. Just my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.

Lack of interest, most likely. Firefox OS is a little pointless on devices with the hardware spec to run Android without batting an eyelash. As for Ubuntu Touch, there are a lot of devices not seeing it just due to a lack of interest in the OS itself from a lot of people (sadly). Only the most popular devices are likely to see ports of it.
That being said, I'd love to see Ubuntu Touch on Moto X, it's one of a few reasons I originally considered getting a Nexus 5 when i decided to get my Moto X.

Any non stock based ROMs we have still have major issues after a year.....can you imagine the issues with anything out of the ordinary like Ubuntu, Miui and other very different systems.
The X is just not a phone for developers or flashaholics. Its best run stock, (or stock based roms) maybe with Xposed for extra features. No one wants to lose their moto features either, and you only will have those on stock or stock based ROMs.
Things may change after the X stops getting updates. You may see more development then.

I have always wanted to run Ubuntu touch. I am trying to get it to work on my Samsung note pro but the selinux enforcement is a road block.

KJ said:
The X is just not a phone for developers or flashaholics.
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It's a phone that cures flashaholics

chaoslimits said:
It's a phone that cures flashaholics
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There's definitely a strong incentive to stay stock on the X.....but it didn't cure me unfortunately. I gave it to my wife, got an N5, installed multirom and have 4 ROMs installed on it as we speak. Lol

KJ said:
There's definitely a strong incentive to stay stock on the X.....but it didn't cure me unfortunately. I gave it to my wife, got an N5, installed multirom and have 4 ROMs installed on it as we speak. Lol
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N5 is really tempting (or it would be if I wasn't on Verizon).

chaoslimits said:
N5 is really tempting (or it would be if I wasn't on Verizon).
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Yes, strange they can't be used on such a large carrier.

KJ said:
There's definitely a strong incentive to stay stock on the X.....but it didn't cure me unfortunately. I gave it to my wife, got an N5, installed multirom and have 4 ROMs installed on it as we speak. Lol
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You are a FLash drunken then XD

ive been eyeing swappa listings for 2013 nexus 7s just to run Ubuntu touch, firefox and Android L preview.

ANDROID L aosp

Hey any devs out there will skills ,resources and the time PLEAAASE PLEAAAASE make an AOSP build for the Moto X.... I know Motorola will be quick with their updates but i just cant wait!!! I am just refreshing the Development sections of the Forum every hour hoping for a ROM build....

I believe devs would have to make a whole new kernel since L was not released for the moto x yet. Not sure if someone will do that before it is officially released for us.

I just want it! Caaant wait! i really hope some dev is already working his ass off to bring us some Lollipop!

Gundabolu SC said:
I just want it! Caaant wait! i really hope some dev is already working his ass off to bring us some Lollipop!
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Without kernel and binaries = No deal. It was already tried with KitKat, I tried with the AOSP sources but without a Kernel developer dedicating it's precious time and the binaries/drivers, just give up on your dream.

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Without kernel and binaries = No deal. It was already tried with KitKat, I tried with the AOSP sources but without a Kernel developer dedicating it's precious time and the binaries/drivers, just give up on your dream.
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Its definitely NOT impossible!!! When other devices like S3 mini,s3,Xperia Z can run without the binaries.... Why cant the Moto X? People have just given up on this phone!
I mean till now we were in the spotlight, but after Moto X 2014 we have been pushed back... We always have run the latest versions of Android till date n have never faced the need for porting n stuff... but i guess this will change when Motorola stops supporting us, then OSs would be ported withot Binaries!

Gundabolu SC said:
Its definitely NOT impossible!!! When other devices like S3 mini,s3,Xperia Z can run without the binaries.... Why cant the Moto X? People have just given up on this phone!
I mean till now we were in the spotlight, but after Moto X 2014 we have been pushed back... We always have run the latest versions of Android till date n have never faced the need for porting n stuff... but i guess this will change when Motorola stops supporting us, then OSs would be ported withot Binaries!
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They worked on other devices because they have common parts inside of them. Commom snapdragon chips, when the Moto X has the "powerful futureproof Moto X8 Mobile Computing System", it still a snapdragon, yeah, but heavily modified. As I said, until we see sources we won't get it. Why? The work to make a KitKat kernel (specially the Moto X one) work on Lollipop isn't worth the effort. Unless you pay someone for it...

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They worked on other devices because they have common parts inside of them. Commom snapdragon chips, when the Moto X has the "powerful futureproof Moto X8 Mobile Computing System", it still a snapdragon, yeah, but heavily modified. As I said, until we see sources we won't get it. Why? The work to make a KitKat kernel (specially the Moto X one) work on Lollipop isn't worth the effort. Unless you pay someone for it...
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As far as I understand the modification to the processor is not to the Main processor itself but its just the addition of further coprocessors... I doubt if Qualcomm would keep quiet if Motorola messed with their processor and called it their own! Aaand.. Even with the sources we are not allowed to use the coprocessors right? So they are pretty much useless! I STILL don't think its THAT HARD! yeah it might be hard... But others have done it... People here just don't try as much I suppose!

Gundabolu SC said:
As far as I understand the modification to the processor is not to the Main processor itself but its just the addition of further coprocessors... I doubt if Qualcomm would keep quiet if Motorola messed with their processor and called it their own! Aaand.. Even with the sources we are not allowed to use the coprocessors right? So they are pretty much useless! I STILL don't think its THAT HARD! yeah it might be hard... But others have done it... People here just don't try as much I suppose!
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It's not worth porting over just so 50 people can have Lollipop on their Moto X 2013 when it's going to come within the next month anyway.'
Those other devices will probably either never get Lollipop or well get them much later.

404 ERROR said:
It's not worth porting over just so 50 people can have Lollipop on their Moto X 2013 when it's going to come within the next month anyway.'
Those other devices will probably either never get Lollipop or well get them much later.
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I agree... Anyways... Already OmniROM seems to have started merging Lollipop...
I don't think it will be long b4 other pitch in too!

Support of RR remix

Somebody tried reguest support of some custom rom ? I try it right now.

najjannajS650 said:
Somebody tried reguest support of some custom rom ? I try it right now.
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Nothing will do it, first you need a working TWRP, secondly you need a dev that would do active support. Forget about it, Moto G6 (ALI) has no developers interest in this phone model.

kemoti said:
Nothing will do it, first you need a working TWRP, secondly you need a dev that would do active support. Forget about it, Moto G6 (ALI) has no developers interest in this phone model.
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The G6 has been out since just May, what are you talking about? Most people in the Moto G series had G5S+'s where there's a **** load of development for and decided that the G6 wasn't enough of an upgrade for them to make the change, but there will always be a potential for new Devs to come to a device. I'll take this over to Android Forums for all I care and crowd source over there, there's always been a desire from up and coming Devs to work on low end phones over there, I bet anything someone will be willing to Dev on a donate device, especially a mid range.

Causical said:
The G6 has been out since just May, what are you talking about? Most people in the Moto G series had G5S+'s where there's a **** load of development for and decided that the G6 wasn't enough of an upgrade for them to make the change, but there will always be a potential for new Devs to come to a device. I'll take this over to Android Forums for all I care and crowd source over there, there's always been a desire from up and coming Devs to work on low end phones over there, I bet anything someone will be willing to Dev on a donate device, especially a mid range.
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Treble GSI's are the future for our phone. i already had RR booting and working with the official GSI available on the project treble forums. TWRP works, it just needs some kinks worked out before the broad public uses (have to wipe data to put files on internal memory, and some people have had success with forceencrypt/dm verity disabling)

Dadud said:
Treble GSI's are the future for our phone. i already had RR booting and working with the official GSI available on the project treble forums. TWRP works, it just needs some kinks worked out before the broad public uses (have to wipe data to put files on internal memory, and some people have had success with forceencrypt/dm verity disabling)
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Just for sake of discussion, doesn't Treble offer less feature implementation when it comes to actual device hardware to software "connectivity" [for lack of a better word] in other words little hardware side things that could be tweaked by the user with CyanogenMod builds per say?

Causical said:
Just for sake of discussion, doesn't Treble offer less feature implementation when it comes to actual device hardware to software "connectivity" [for lack of a better word] in other words little hardware side things that could be tweaked by the user with CyanogenMod builds per say?
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im not exactly sure what you mean by that but i assume any hardware issues (i've really only noticed some bugginess with bluetooth audio) can be fixed with a custom system image based on an official GSI.

Dadud said:
im not exactly sure what you mean by that but i assume any hardware issues (i've really only noticed some bugginess with bluetooth audio) can be fixed with a custom system image based on an official GSI.
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Yeah, right...I meant like more system side like deeply modified frameworks and stuff and things that have been modded in the system like tweaks to things like active or "live display" or whatever. Other things like how notification LED functions and tweaks to the make camera actions snappier...I know there's more...I guess a better way to describe it is things that Xposed would do, but built into a ROM. Treble isn't enabling those things is it? Since it's just a software update that's entirely parallel to a phones hardware?

Thanks, that is what I want to hear ?

Good to know some of you were able to boot GSI's already. I maintain RR for another Moto device. Once I get the bootloader unlocked, I'll work towards getting us up and running with RR

Why is custom ROM support for this device so less?

I'm currently a g5s plus user which gets a lot of love from devs. And I see that there are barely any ROM'S for this device? What's the reason?

aFoxWhoIsNice said:
I'm currently a g5s plus user which gets a lot of love from devs. And I see that there are barely any ROM'S for this device? What's the reason?
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Cool this is the g6 forum not the g5+ forum lol I wanna know what even brings you to this forum since you have e a g5+. there's a couple being worked on for the g6 plus but there not ready for public release yet and that's it. No one really gives a damn about the Moto g6 or g6 play which sucks ass tbh. I've literally tried given an extra g6 play I had away for free to any dev and I was willing to pay the shipping even and no one even bothered asking about it so I got rid of it lol

Depends on the variant. G6+ was not released in the US officially so that hurt adoption as the G6 is not exactly a stand out device. The 6+ can be bought on Amazon in the US but it lacks a warranty and comes with Amazon bloatware(Alexa, Amazon.com, Amazon Prime Video/Music, Kindle). It also lacks NFC when compared to the 6+. It's more expensive then a Z Force 2 which has Moto Mods and better screen but older SoC. The US availableility is the biggest key! The g6 seems to be gaining traction though as prepaid carriers like Cricket and Straight Talk are releasing variants of the G6 now. The cricket version is cheaper then the G6 but has 16gb storage vs 32gb in the G6. Seems like the G6 Play is most commonly used on Boost Mobile in the US from to me. Boost is sort of a hit or miss carrier mostly depending on how good Sprint networks are in an area I believe. They are one of the rare sprint resellers.
Sent from my Moto G6 Plus using Tapatalk

ninjakira said:
Cool this is the g6 forum not the g5+ forum lol I wanna know what even brings you to this forum since you have e a g5+. there's a couple being worked on for the g6 plus but there not ready for public release yet and that's it. No one really gives a damn about the Moto g6 or g6 play which sucks ass tbh. I've literally tried given an extra g6 play I had away for free to any dev and I was willing to pay the shipping even and no one even bothered asking about it so I got rid of it lol
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Was interested to recommend this to someone else, decided to check ROM support before doing so. But yeah it's sad how a generational update can cause such a dry patch here.

aFoxWhoIsNice said:
Was interested to recommend this to someone else, decided to check ROM support before doing so. But yeah it's sad how a generational update can cause such a dry patch here.
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I mean the phone itself is a great phone and if I didn't care about having root or if I was just a simple person that just used a phone like normal I would say this phone is amazing like if your friend ain't really into rooting or custom ROMs then still I would recommend it to them. But if they are into this scene I would not recommend it at least yet.

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I mean the phone itself is a great phone and if I didn't care about having root or if I was just a simple person that just used a phone like normal I would say this phone is amazing like if your friend ain't really into rooting or custom ROMs then still I would recommend it to them. But if they are into this scene I would not recommend it at least yet.
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I see, but I still wanted to keep that venue open, so I'll wait and see if the support comes. If not, then a Xiaomi phone it is. Could flash something like Official Lineage OS on a RN5 Pro, even the noobiest of users enjoy it.

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I see, but I still wanted to keep that venue open, so I'll wait and see if the support comes. If not, then a Xiaomi phone it is. Could flash something like Official Lineage OS on a RN5 Pro, even the noobiest of users enjoy it.
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For the g6+ I say give it about another month to three months. There is a telegram you can join if you want more updates on what's going in the g6+ community right now. I unfortunately have the g6 play so I can't say I have much hope for my device lmao. I also have a Moto z2 force so I just mainly use my g6 play as a phone and basic light mobile gaming and my z2 force for my heavier mobile gaming stuff like pubg mobile lol.

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For the g6+ I say give it about another month to three months. There is a telegram you can join if you want more updates on what's going in the g6+ community right now. I unfortunately have the g6 play so I can't say I have much hope for my device lmao. I also have a Moto z2 force so I just mainly use my g6 play as a phone and basic light mobile gaming and my z2 force for my heavier mobile gaming stuff like pubg mobile lol.
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Ah I see, could you link me the g6 plus group? Thanks.

aFoxWhoIsNice said:
Was interested to recommend this to someone else, decided to check ROM support before doing so. But yeah it's sad how a generational update can cause such a dry patch here.
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We have working LOS16 custom rom that is daily driver ready for the most part. LOS updates our vendor partition to make the GSI format more compatible with our device. We don't really have a reason to make a ton of custom roms anymore when a GSI img can be made and work on 50+ devices vs a custom rom which can work on only 1 device.
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Ah I see, could you link me the g6 plus group? Thanks.
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https://t.me/evertdev

Xplorer4x4 said:
We have working LOS16 custom rom that is daily driver ready for the most part. LOS updates our vendor partition to make the GSI format more compatible with our device. We don't really have a reason to make a ton of custom roms anymore when a GSI img can be made and work on 50+ devices vs a custom rom which can work on only 1 device.
https://t.me/evertdev
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Thanks for the info

Yeah it's interesting how little is going on with the G6 platform compared to other phones. I picked up my G6 play for $80, a steal. It replaced my Moto x 2014 and my wife's Moto Z.
Yes there's occasional lag, but the phone itself looks and feels like a very high end device. I've also used the G6 which was much faster and the camera was nicer.
So for those saying the G6 "sucks" either haven't used it or are willing to pay $500+ for a "better" phone.

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Yeah it's interesting how little is going on with the G6 platform compared to other phones. I picked up my G6 play for $80, a steal. It replaced my Moto x 2014 and my wife's Moto Z.
Yes there's occasional lag, but the phone itself looks and feels like a very high end device. I've also used the G6 which was much faster and the camera was nicer.
So for those saying the G6 "sucks" either haven't used it or are willing to pay $500+ for a "better" phone.
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Pretty much this. The Play and the G6 shows that you don't need to spend $500+ to get a good phone.
Its like buying a BMW versus a Toyota. The $40,000 BMW depreciates to $18,000 in 2 years versus a $20,000 Toyota that will depreciates to $12,000. It's the same principle with phones. I'm thoroughly enjoying mine.

This is why I'm glad Treble exists. I've been running Pie for 2 weeks and it's still going great.

Any custom rom for this device?

Some ROM as lineage OS for this device?

Seems to be very poorly supported here on XDA. No real devs appear to have become involved with the device, which is a shame. I've had the device for around a month and have already moved to a Pocofone due to the lack of interest in this device here on XDA.

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Seems to be very poorly supported here on XDA. No real devs appear to have become involved with the device, which is a shame. I've had the device for around a month and have already moved to a Pocofone due to the lack of interest in this device here on XDA.
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We haven't had TWRP yet but it may be getting close, then there should be at least one or two ROMs fairly quickly from what I gather. There's been more activity on the Telegram group than here on XDA.

I hope it will soon be available Pixel Experience rom for our device.
That will be awesome.
Best rom ever.

For me it's kind of confusing considering that Moto One Power uses Android One and has identical internal components from what I believe it shouldn't be hard to port..?
Correct me if I'm wrong.

haasta said:
I hope it will soon be available Pixel Experience rom for our device.
That will be awesome.
Best rom ever.
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Would love Pixel Experience ROM for the Moto G7 Plus. Just bought mine and even though the stock ROM is pretty uncluttered there's some issues. TWRP was pretty easy to install after requesting code from Motorola to unlock the bootloader.