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I am thinking about upgrading from S2, can someone with both phones compare - what advantages (if any ) / disadvantages Note has over S2 ?
Obviously Note has bigger screen - but screen aside - did you notice any other area where Note triumphs S2 ? (GPS, wifi, battery life with screen turned on, sound quality, camera, sotware issues...) How about heat problems ? S2 can get pretty hot under high workload, is Note any better ? (afaik it basically runs the same chip just clocked higher which makes me wondering)
Also regarding the screen - are the colors / brightness / outdoor visibility etc. the same and the difference is only in size / resolution / ppi ? And finally: is there someone who tried both and actually preferred S2 ?
They're almost the same. For me the major difference is battery life and spen ... I love to sketch. So I switched. Battery is superb.
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I don't own either, but from what I've seen the battery is way better on the Note than basically any other Android phone. Colors will be slightly less vibrant because it's not a SAMOLED+ display, it's just SAMOLED. But honestly, who cares? It's 720p!
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I don't own either, but from what I've seen the battery is way better on the Note than basically any other Android phone. Colors will be slightly less vibrant because it's not a SAMOLED+ display, it's just SAMOLED. But honestly, who cares? It's 720p!
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The colors are amazing. I find them just as vibrant as the S2. The only real difference is the pentile display, but the dpi is so high you can't even tell. I find the screen to be far more useful than the S2 with the extra size and resolution.
Battery life wasn't great at first but once I turned off latitude and froze a few samsung apps it got MUCH better. Oh, and using minimum brightness is a major factor too. I wasn't too happy about turning the brightness down but after a day you don't notice it. I just have a widget on the desktop so I can quickly turn up the brightness if I need to.
After using the phone for a bit more, the Note is better in some ares:
-GLONASS satellite system allows it very fast lock in and response, although its not as precise as GPS, maybe 5-10ft off, but realky isn't an issue at all.
-Better PPI, but can see grains if eyes 6" from the screen.
-Screen is slightly brighter.
Cons: Can't operate it one handed at all due to size.
Sound quality is the same, not bad but not great. Same camera I think. Both can get pretty warm, but a case helps.
battery life: qualitatively it seems note lasts longer.
sound quality: equally good but note louder esp on speaker.
heat: i suppose any phone will heat up under stress e.g. video, charging but by and large i have never felt much heat from either.
camera: this is one area note is better than S2. S2 had weird pink hues but this is less noticeable in note. the screen seems to respond better in camera mode for note too.
in short, unless size and portability are major concerns, note is a better get. hope this helps!
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I am thinking about upgrading from S2, can someone with both phones compare - what advantages (if any ) / disadvantages Note has over S2 ?
Obviously Note has bigger screen - but screen aside - did you notice any other area where Note triumphs S2 ? (GPS, wifi, battery life with screen turned on, sound quality, camera, sotware issues...) How about heat problems ? S2 can get pretty hot under high workload, is Note any better ? (afaik it basically runs the same chip just clocked higher which makes me wondering)
Also regarding the screen - are the colors / brightness / outdoor visibility etc. the same and the difference is only in size / resolution / ppi ? And finally: is there someone who tried both and actually preferred S2 ?
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Allrighty.
I currently own both, and can help you out with answering a few things.
I'll start off with something that I haven't seen many if any even, touch base on:
Typing is a dream. I used the stock Gingerbread keyboard on my Galaxy SII as it was the most comfortable one for me, but found it a tad cramped at times and landscape was just too wide to type anything on naturally. On the Note using the same keyboard, I personally had fewer mistakes and found that my typing speed had stayed near dead on to my thumbing on the smaller brother. I'd say it hits that sweet spot for completely comfortable portrait typing.
The sound quality in call is right on par with that of the GSII, dare I say even a little bit better. In any of the time I've spent talking on it, I haven't had an issue and it's clear on the other end.
Battery life is most certainly better. It's not worlds better, but I have no worries that I won't kill my battery come the end of my day and get home, whereas there were days were I was cutting it too close for comfort on the GSII. I'm a light to moderate user, with locally stored music playback anywhere from 1-7 hours, screen on time around 3-4 hours, bluetooth always on (for MBW-150), and no wifi every day.
I've found the software for the camera to be improved. It's not Nexus-fast in terms of snapping off a photo, but it's easily much faster at taking a photo on the Note than the GSII. Image quality and detail is on par with the GSII's snapper.
The Note is the same as the SII in terms of heat. That hasn't changed, but this is only if you're actually working it by playing games or watching HD video. Likewise, it stays cool with regular use, as does the SII.
Screen saturation is almost that of the SII's screen, but not enough to fret about. I've found the colour on the Note's screen to be a touch warmer, but that could very well be because it's a newer screen with less on time than my GSII. Outdoor visibility isn't an issue, at my usual screen brightness of 25% I have no problems making out what's on the screen throughout the day, even in near direct sunlight. This was the same case with it's smaller sibling, so no real differences here.
As a note about the Note's screen (pardon the pun), the screen is fantastic. Flat out. Text, images, and video are easily more crisp and enjoyable to view on the Note than the SII. Because of the high pixel density, you can't even make out the sup pixels while reading unless you bring the phone less than 6" away from your face and even then it's difficult.
I absolutely love my Note. Everyone I've showed it to has had the same reaction: "Wow. It huge!". So it most certainly stands out if that might matter to you. There are times where I miss the GSII for it's size and general 'feel'. It's definitely been tamed and feels a touch more responsive while moving through the OS, and the light weight was always a plus. There have been times where my hand was slightly fatigued from holding the Note, but again this really is a two handed device.
To sum it all up, I bought my Galaxy SII in August. I just got my Note about a week ago, never handling or seeing one in real life and I feel it was a worthy enough upgrade. My reasoning is of course biased for my wants in the device, but chances are if you're looking into getting this device, you'll surely be impressed.
It is interesting to see different experiences with SGS2 and Note. I own both, and here is my quick comparison.
Screen - I like the bigger format ( I love the bigger format) but the screen is not as bright as SGS2. White is little bit grayish. Colors are pretty much same, I don't see the problem with RGB or pentile display. So Note: 1 point.
Sound - I absolutely love the sound, all notifications are louder, in call volume louder, speaker louder and more bass. Note: 1 point
Wi Fi signal: I tested SGS2, Note, Galaxy Tab and my wife's Iphone 4G wifi signal strength in my house, I have latest Linksys router, super fast cable internet with latest modem capable up to 100 mbps, in real I am getting 54 mbps. Note performed worst of all of them. Around 16 mbps versus 22 for SGS 2 and iPhone. Very dissapointed with wi fi signal strength as well, loosing signal in places where SGS2 and iPhone still works ok. Note: 0 points, SGS 2 : 1 point.
Camera: oh boy, much much worse than SGS 2, I couldn't believe how bad this camera is. I will post later side by side pictures from both phones with same settings, you will be surprised. Not focusing as quickly as SGS2, white balance off, takes ages refocusing between light area and dark area, etc... SGS 2: 1 more point here.
Stylus: since SGS2 doesn't have it, Note gets 1 more point here, because I find this feature very useful for my business and it was one of the main reasons I bought this phone. (screen and Stylus)
Scrolling between home screens is little bit laggy, much more noticeable than SGS2. Stock browser scrolling is jerky, not iphone smooth as SGS2. Wake up screen delay is 1.5 sec from pressing any button ( home or power) compared to almost instant screen on with SGS2.
Both phones running stock firmware, SGS2 is on UK unbranded 2.3.4 rooted, Note is on 2.3.6. German firmware not rooted.(yet)
Using it on USA AT&T carrier. Phone signal more less same,somewhere SGS2 performs better, somewhere Note has better signal, but I am satisfied with both phones performances.
Overall I prefer Note right now, it may be because of it's novelty versus my "old" SGS2, but it will be very hard for me to go to smaller size screen phone after using Note. Probably the best phone I ever had so far. I bought Note without seeing it in real from Amazon.de and I am not dissapointed with the purchase.
enjoy it, life is short.
Well thanks everyone, my general impressions from what has been said are:
1.) Screen is much better
2.) Battery is much better
3.) Pen is a potential advantage (I almost forgot about the pen)
4.) Experience with remaining features can vary (probably due to manufacturing differences ?) but overall they are all more or less comparable to Galaxy S2
5.) With one exception being GPS, at least based on this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=arOYNNux_mg
it seems the Note's GPS should be quite superior (it may be the best GPS in any phone yet ?)
So if screen, battery life and GPS are improved over S2 then it's probably good enough for me. However it would be much cleaner cut if there would be more horsepower under the hood as well I'd love some faster CPU, 32GB of storage and faster stock sd cards. (Actually I'd love to see some SSD on it You can put SSD into a netbook so why not to a phone ? )
Also one thing I would probably prefer is to have 16:9 (720 height instead of 800) display and about 4.8 - 5" big, slightly more portable and less funny looking while making a call. Maybe they've opted for Note's aspect ratio as to give better support for note taking ?
ive had my galaxy note for a month. just picked up a free galaxy s2 today on vodafone AU's $29 cap. personally, i think i'll stick with the note. everything about the note is just more convenient for me. bigger screen makes portrait keyboard awesome, higher res makes everything look better. battery life is only better on the note with gaming and video watching, both are on par for web browsing battery life due to the weakness of samoled.
gps is much much better on my galaxy note. locks down fairly well when im indoors whilst the s2 cant even lock after running it for half an hour in navigation mode.
as for the screen ratio, samsung havent made a phone that uses 16:9 screen ratio for a fair while (if they have made any at all, cant seem to think of any). the slightly wider/taller (depending on how you look at it) makes portrait keyboard useful, but i must agree, the extra pixels are wasted on videos. if you want a 16:9 screen ratio, look towards the lg nitro hd and galaxy nexus.
one thing the galaxy nexus has that these phones dont seem to have is the correct positioning of the 3.5mm socket. the galaxy nexus has it positioned on the bottom, like my old n900. this is the perfect place for the socket since it means you can pull your phone out of your pocket when headphones are plugged in and it will be the right way up. it also means if youre plugging it into anything in your car, it wont have any silly cables coming out the top. its one of those little things that are nice and much appreciated. but im digressing a bit here.
overall, the phones will be similar, with the screen being the main difference and the unique advantage of the note will be the S pen. but that may be a bit of a downer in terms of update speed. for the galaxy s2, all samsung need to do is refine the experience, add touchwiz, and its all ready. for the note, they need to add touchwiz and then modify the S-Pen apps to run correctly as well. shouldnt delay the release of ICS for the note by too much considering samsung should have gained experience with ICS when working with the galaxy nexus, but its still a bit of a delay.
and i dont think SSDs will be needed on phones for a fair while. honestly, when will you need a read speed faster than 20mb/s? or a write speed faster than that? its only really useful when transferring files to and from a PC, but as to actual device usage, it has little impact. videos are encoded at what? 17mbps? thats still only 2-3mb/s of write speed needed. theres very little on the device that could take advantage of the added speed of an SSD. its just something that will drive up the product cost with very little benefit in realworld usage. apps load quickly enough so i dont think samsung would bother to consider an SSD for phones anytime soon.
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and i dont think SSDs will be needed on phones for a fair while. honestly, when will you need a read speed faster than 20mb/s? or a write speed faster than that? its only really useful when transferring files to and from a PC, but as to actual device usage, it has little impact.
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Faster than 20MB/s - yes it's mainly for data transfer. But note also that while most android apps are small, some (especially games which can have couple of hundreds of MBs) should benefit from faster storage. And if you bench seq. write speed of S2 it's nowhere near to 20MB/s. It's more like 5-7MB/s - very slow for large data transfers (I don't know if Galaxy Note is any better). The internal memory of S2 is of course optimized for fast random reads/writes rather then seq. speeds. But if we can have high capacity USB3 sticks with read / write speeds above 100 MB/s and still very good random read/write speeds (e.g. 64GB flash for about 100€) then maybe to have phone with 32GB-64GB internal memory and 50/30MB/s and USB3 etc. could be done for similar price (which would be very fine with me).
Note seems to be well suited for video playback but with typical 720p movie at about 5GB I find the 12GB internal + 32GB external SD cards quite limiting in capacity as well as in transfer speeds (esp. considering that I need permanently at least 16GB for my music collection and lot's of free space for 1080p video recording) Surprisingly most netbooks have comparable RAM capacity and CPU speeds (at least for non floating point tasks) to those of highend smartphones, yet the storage capacity and seq. transfer speeds on netbooks is order of magnitudes higher.
I got it today ! It's very big AND unfortunately the side panel has annoying squeaking problem. It's only on one place - below the volume button, exactly where I tend to leave my fingers. Anyone else with the same problem ? Never had any squeaking problems on SGS2.
Is there a possibility that the back cover has not been clicked in place properly? I get squeaking too when that happens.
I have both phones.
When I got the Note I wanted to sell the S2, even had a buyer for it.
But after I used the Note for a day I start to have serious second thoughts.
The S2 is so much smoother ... Honestly, in this respect the Note is much closer to SG1 than SG2.
Hey mates
I have both of these phones myself, and I'm just wondering is there any possibilities to move memos from SGS2 to note??
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I have both of these phones myself, and I'm just wondering is there any possibilities to move memos from SGS2 to note??
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With the backup feature on the PC, with syncing them to google, with the option to back them up with MyBackup, there are a lot of options Probably the easiest would be go into the options of your SGS2 Memo app and sync it to google, and then just redownload them on the Note. I like everything OTA. I dislike having to plug everything in to get stuff done.
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With the backup feature on the PC, with syncing them to google, with the option to back them up with MyBackup, there are a lot of options Probably the easiest would be go into the options of your SGS2 Memo app and sync it to google, and then just redownload them on the Note. I like everything OTA. I dislike having to plug everything in to get stuff done.
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Ok, now I feel myself really dumb! Thanks for that
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That's not possible because I tripplechecked (by removing and putting back) the cover prior to asking here.
But there is more to Note than that: I saw videos of Note compared to S2 etc. on youtube I saw pictures in reviews etc. but nothing could prepare me to how big it actually is in real. I will be probably in minority here but I can't avoid thinking that it's actually too big - for calling it a phone at least. At the same time I could live with larger screen and res than S2 (mostly for comfortable video watching) So I think if I could spec and ideal phone for me, based on interpolation between S2 and Note it would have display comparable to Galaxy Nexus (1280x720 ~ 4.7" - 4.8", 120g - 140g) that should be a perfect balance between display usefulness and overall portability. Too bad they've crippled Nexus with missing SD slot and missing flash support. Hope that Galaxy S3 will hit it all right (I already can't wait ) Btw any chance Note's awesome GPS making it to other Samsung phones ? (can it be put to any phone regardless of it's size ?) As far as GPS goes the difference is stunning (basically a toy like implementation vs. state of the art awesomeness)
Now I have hard time deciding what to do with Note: I should probably return it but then the screen is so awesome that it's very tough to just return it, even when I don't need it Btw about the screen and pentile vs. non-pentile debate: there were only few occasions when I noticed there was some grain on the Note without looking for it, e.g. the red birds in Angry Birds Rio and orange balloon in Samsung demo video (from 0:36) On galaxy2 I never noticed any grain (even when looking for it), so yes Superamoled Plus would be even nicer but for 99% of practical cases it doesn't matter to me.
Where are those comparsion photos that someone mentioned. Has anyone had the camera perform poorly?
I own both, well I gave the S2 to the missus when I got the Note.
The Note is equivalent too, or better then the S2 in everything. I would find it impossible to have an S2 as my main phone now after having used the Note for almost a month.
You will hear a lot of negativity about the size of the Note, I kept hearing it is too big, it is uncomfortable to carry etc etc. Nonsense. It took me a day (max) to get use to the size, it fits in all my pockets comfortably and is very portable. Dare I say it I think it could even be a tad bigger, maybe 5.5" All other phones now seem tiny to me, and this has become the standard. I don't think I will be able to go back to a small(er) phone after using this.
I have found the camera and video recording similar to the S2. GPS on the Note is amazing, I get a lock in seconds, it beats every other satnav/phone I have ever owned. The screen... wow. One month on and it still impresses me. Games, Videos, Satnav, Internet Browsing even Ebook reading is all a joy on the Note, it is the ultimate all in one device imo.
First Impressions so far are great! I have been eyeing it for quite a while now, but decided to finally get it yesterday. I also bought the Book Cover. The screen is simply amazing. Darkest blacks I have ever seen on an AMOLED screen. And this is coming from an S5 user. Also the speakers are pretty loud and clear for a tablet of this size! Definitely owns the iPad Mini! :laugh:
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Awesome Matey! I got the LTE Version. Am an iPad air user, this AMOLED Screen is amazing!
I ordered mine this afternoon and it should be here tomorrow. Still hunting down accessories. This will be my first tablet. Looking forward to it; who doesn't like shiny new toys? I did lots of research and this seems to be the best tablet right now. Went with the black.
Any accessories you looking to get for it?
Somehow I'm surprised by how thin it is... I don't think I've owned any portable device that what this thin, tablet or otherwise. It's one thing to read about it or even see it in a pic, but when you finally hold it...
I'm actually not a fan of the bronze trim, though, makes the device look kind of..."blingy"...Like an expensive wristwatch or something. Not sure how to describe it. It's aesthetically pleasing, but seems out of place.
Thing just feels too fragile for me to take it anywhere yet, though. Need to get a good cover/case.
Really impressed with the display.
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Somehow I'm surprised by how thin it is... I don't think I've owned any portable device that what this thin, tablet or otherwise. It's one thing to read about it or even see it in a pic, but when you finally hold it...
I'm actually not a fan of the bronze trim, though, makes the device look kind of..."blingy"...Like an expensive wristwatch or something. Not sure how to describe it. It's aesthetically pleasing, but seems out of place.
Thing just feels too fragile for me to take it anywhere yet, though. Need to get a good cover/case.
Really impressed with the display.
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I didnt think it looks too bad, the bronze fits well with the titanium.
I'm not so impressed
I've had the 8.4 Tab s for a few weeks now and tbh apart from the screen (even that has issues) I'm not overally impressed. The interface is a bit messy and extremely laggy. It stutters when scrolling and quite obviously the Exynos processor isn't up to the job for handling the 1440p screen. The Screen is highly reflective and forget about watching films etc in bright light it is almost impossible.
If they had used the 805 or K1 SOC for overall responsiveness and improved the screen for outside use I would far happier, I also have the Shield Tablet and that is so much faster for almost all tasks it's beyond a joke. Also I still find the Android Tablet interface lacking compared to Apple's. Anyway OP hopefully they will improve the responsiveness with a few updates and I hope you enjoy the tablet.
I just got it yesteday... amaizing... I used many samsung tablets... but this one is sleek and fast... loving it so far.
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I've had the 8.4 Tab s for a few weeks now and tbh apart from the screen (even that has issues) I'm not overally impressed. The interface is a bit messy and extremely laggy. It stutters when scrolling and quite obviously the Exynos processor isn't up to the job for handling the 1440p screen. The Screen is highly reflective and forget about watching films etc in bright light it is almost impossible.
If they had used the 805 or K1 SOC for overall responsiveness and improved the screen for outside use I would far happier, I also have the Shield Tablet and that is so much faster for almost all tasks it's beyond a joke. Also I still find the Android Tablet interface lacking compared to Apple's. Anyway OP hopefully they will improve the responsiveness with a few updates and I hope you enjoy the tablet.
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There seems to be a lot of disagreement here. Some people are saying it is smooth just being stock, some say can be smooth if you use a different launcher or de-bloat the device. I personally haven't noticed any extreme lag; mostly just quarter-second delays when doing something for the first time, e.g. opening the app drawer soon after waking the device up. But I at least saw someone's video of some pretty extreme lag. It's definitely worrying. I also don't have any tablet by which to compare this one, so it's hard for me to really perceive how slow the device might be.
I can't claim to understand the decision to use an 8-core CPU. It sounds fancy. But even the newest PC games utilize only 2-4 cores, so it seems like overkill for a tablet. Maybe I am misunderstanding how those cores are being used in the context of a tablet; perhaps they come into play when you are actually using the split-window functionality?
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There seems to be a lot of disagreement here. Some people are saying it is smooth just being stock, some say can be smooth if you use a different launcher or de-bloat the device. I personally haven't noticed any extreme lag; mostly just quarter-second delays when doing something for the first time, e.g. opening the app drawer soon after waking the device up. But I at least saw someone's video of some pretty extreme lag. It's definitely worrying. I also don't have any tablet by which to compare this one, so it's hard for me to really perceive how slow the device might be.
I can't claim to understand the decision to use an 8-core CPU. It sounds fancy. But even the newest PC games utilize only 2-4 cores, so it seems like overkill for a tablet. Maybe I am misunderstanding how those cores are being used in the context of a tablet; perhaps they come into play when you are actually using the split-window functionality?
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The SoC has 8 cores in two 4-cores-set, only one set is active on a given time, one set is battery optimized and the other performance oriented, the lagging is prolly caused -apart from bloatware- by the governor, too much to decide, switching from one set of cores to another/plugging-unplugging cores based on demand/scaling the cpu freq. to cope with load. There's much to be tweaked -maybe at the expense of lower battery life-.
I was also looking for the s800 version but given the lack of information/availability I just went on a bought today the Exynos based one. Apart from the lag of the TW interface, I noticed two things I didn't like: my screen has a slight green cast when viewing from an angle, and -I have a very good sight- I notice the pentile/diamond arranging of the pixels at normal viewing distance, just barely but enough to annoy me sometimes ... that's a disappointment, on the Galaxy S4 I can't notice individual pixels even looking for them
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The SoC has 8 cores in two 4-cores-set, only one set is active on a given time, one set is battery optimized and the other performance oriented, the lagging is prolly caused -apart from bloatware- by the governor, too much to decide, switching from one set of cores to another/plugging-unplugging cores based on demand/scaling the cpu freq. to cope with load. There's much to be tweaked -maybe at the expense of lower battery life-.
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Ah. That's an interesting architecture. Almost sounds like it's too smart for its own good... Sounds like something that can be improved, at the very least. Thanks for the insight.
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Awesome Matey! I got the LTE Version. Am an iPad air user, this AMOLED Screen is amazing!
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I have an S5, but the AMOLED screen on a tablet is Impressive! Samsung has really done it! I tested a 4k video on it and it was SMOOTH!
Df9 debloated and deodexed. Switching launchers to adwex, and latest chrome update, and this thing flies!! Think touchwiz and its new feeds arethe problem.
The screen is pretty reflective. Annoys me a bit.
Swiftkey rocks.
Battery life is decent browsing, sick long with video.
Pretty happy with it so far.
I ownedor a week and returned it ot get this. Pro was a little snappier, battery life wasnt bad.
Love the s screen better and the accessories are a big deal (got the free book case). The pro wont probably get the same love.
Cheers
I got the T705 (8.4" LTE) this weekend and found it to be a really blinding tablet! The screen and the thin format is absolutely lovely.
So far very happy and even exceeds the SGT 7.7 which I had some years ago.
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I got the T705 (8.4" LTE) this weekend and found it to be a really blinding tablet! The screen and the thin format is absolutely lovely.
So far very happy and even exceeds the SGT 7.7 which I had some years ago.
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Lol glad to see some old.mates from 7.7. Tab S 8.4 could be the true successor of that device.
To OP. 1st of all. Congratulations on your new baby. Welcome to the club. Like your observation. The amoled in this unit is superb. Even in total darkness, you wont see any hint of glow or those 'newtonian rings' which plagues alder amoled display. Sometimes. I need to tap on back/menu button just to know that the tablet didn't sleep especially during a blackscreen loading time in some games.
So happy with this unit. Couple it with a tempred glass + samsung bookcase for protection. Got some battery issues at first but managed to resolve it. I paired it with my gear 2 and i couldnt be happier
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Hi guys,
I have the S4 for some 15 months now and now I have the opportunity to grab brand new S5 mini for less than 100 dollars if I give up my S4. But there are (understandably) no comparison videos about S4 vs S5 mini so I am unsure if I should switch.
I don´t mind smaller screen. I like S4´s air gestures but I will happily exchange them for the heart rate sensor and finger print scanner. I also love that S5 is waterproof and dust proof. What I would miss is the 13 mpx camera but I am able to get over that although it is the biggest pain for me.
But I was wondering - is 1.5 gigs of RAM noticable in system and apps performance? Cause I am used to 2 gigs and I am more than happy about how S4 performs.
Also - any other questions I should ask myself about the possible switch or any other tips?
Thanks!
I would never go from S4 to S5mini. You'll loose alot of processing power and ram. If you will notice the decline is a question about how you use your phone. For me 1,5/2gb ram makes a big difference. 1,5gb is just not enough for multitasking.
You'll also loose the haptic feedback for capacitive buttons and system apps (dailer etc). Would not like that.
And the screen of the S5 mini is IMHO crap. The 720p penile matrix is pretty bad and you can forget reading full Web pages without zooming - which is a delight on the S4. The S5 mini is to blurry and pixilated from low res and the pentile matrix.
The heart rate sensor is totally NOT nessaserray since you can have the exact same function with the camera and the led flash. It even gets the same result/exactness (alot of reviews have looks in to this). Just download the heart rate sensor app of your choice from Play Store.
Hello every one
I want to put in a quick overview on my experience with the N4 for 3 days of use till date,
Coming from the note 3 & Note 2 before it.
The phone is in a sense feels not a huge leap over the Note 3, The noteworthy upgrades that i enjoy are the better aesthetics ,the much improved low light camera capabilities (including OIS which turns out to be much useful than i thought) and the improved accuracy of the S pen which i use extensively for business and pleasure.
But what bugs me -and i felt this with every note 4 i held not just mine- Is the frame rates of animations , I am not talking about lags or stutters (which are no better or worse than my note 3) but the smoothness of stutter free animation.
I held both my note 4 & note 3 side by side , Loaded with the same set of apps and both with Nova launcher, And the animations of scrolling through the home screen or scrolling through lists ,apps etc feels smoother on the Note 3.
I feel that upping the screen resolution has its toll on the Snap dragon 805 ,the combination of SD800+FHD seems to work better than SD805+QHD , and the sad part for me is that no matter how hard i try , i just cannot see any considerable deffirence in the N4 as opposed to the N3's screen that warrants the compromise of performance (or battery life if any, not tested this yet).
Also, I am not a heavy gamer but i occasionally play DC's Injustice which is a heavy 3D game, The game plays better on the Note 3 than on the Note 4 while both are cold(higher FPS but a tad longer loading times) , Once things start heating a bit , the throttling on the note 4 kicks much sooner and heavier than on note 3, a price to pay in 3D performance for a non descreminable bump to screen quality?
The screen of the Note 4 have much cooler whites than on Note 3 i give it that, But it is disturbing to find the performance lacking.
I'm keeping the Note 4 as i like lots of things in it, But i think it missed out on being a really perfect phone.
Just my thoughts
marwanhamed said:
Hello every one
I want to put in a quick overview on my experience with the N4 for 3 days of use till date,
Coming from the note 3 & Note 2 before it.
The phone is in a sense feels not a huge leap over the Note 3, The noteworthy upgrades that i enjoy are the better aesthetics ,the much improved low light camera capabilities (including OIS which turns out to be much useful than i thought) and the improved accuracy of the S pen which i use extensively for business and pleasure.
But what bugs me -and i felt this with every note 4 i held not just mine- Is the frame rates of animations , I am not talking about lags or stutters (which are no better or worse than my note 3) but the smoothness of stutter free animation.
I held both my note 4 & note 3 side by side , Loaded with the same set of apps and both with Nova launcher, And the animations of scrolling through the home screen or scrolling through lists ,apps etc feels smoother on the Note 3.
I feel that upping the screen resolution has its toll on the Snap dragon 805 ,the combination of SD800+FHD seems to work better than SD805+QHD , and the sad part for me is that no matter how hard i try , i just cannot see any considerable deffirence in the N4 as opposed to the N3's screen that warrants the compromise of performance (or battery life if any, not tested this yet).
Also, I am not a heavy gamer but i occasionally play DC's Injustice which is a heavy 3D game, The game plays better on the Note 3 than on the Note 4 while both are cold(higher FPS but a tad longer loading times) , Once things start heating a bit , the throttling on the note 4 kicks much sooner and heavier than on note 3, a price to pay in 3D performance for a non descreminable bump to screen quality?
The screen of the Note 4 have much cooler whites than on Note 3 i give it that, But it is disturbing to find the performance lacking.
I'm keeping the Note 4 as i like lots of things in it, But i think it missed out on being a really perfect phone.
Just my thoughts
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When i compare my s800 note3.and my exynos note4. Note 4 is definetly faster in everyway and its very obvious not even close. When i put power saving on note 4 performance is pretty much equals. And when i compare my exynos version with my friends snapdragon note 4 performance difference is definetly there but i dont think its cuz s805 has lower performance i think its just about software. Only 1 complain i have is recent apps 0.5 sec delay everything else very very smooth that i couldnt expect from samsung as an old.nexus user. Also it heats very less and i didnt see throttlong frame drops.(only benchmarks.show its throttled.)
I seen all complain from S805. I am happy i decide to pick Exynos 7 (5433) edition. I am existing Note 3 owner as well. I can assure Exynos edition N910C animation smoothness is far ahead than Note 3.
Maybe. I havent noticed it myself, not having tested them side by side though (i could, i just havent ).
I wouldnt have minded the Note 4 being FHD as long as the screen itself was as good in terms of white balance, realistic colours, brightness, etc etc etc. But I dont see a reason personally NOT to have it QHD.
That being said, the spen and multitasking, as well as the small design changes and camera, make it an easy choice of course. However, I would not have minded a FHD screen, as mentioned.
Maybe the 5.0 update helps. Quite looking forward to seeing how that update will affect the note 4.
marwanhamed said:
Hello every one
I want to put in a quick overview on my experience with the N4 for 3 days of use till date,
Coming from the note 3 & Note 2 before it.
The phone is in a sense feels not a huge leap over the Note 3, The noteworthy upgrades that i enjoy are the better aesthetics ,the much improved low light camera capabilities (including OIS which turns out to be much useful than i thought) and the improved accuracy of the S pen which i use extensively for business and pleasure.
But what bugs me -and i felt this with every note 4 i held not just mine- Is the frame rates of animations , I am not talking about lags or stutters (which are no better or worse than my note 3) but the smoothness of stutter free animation.
I held both my note 4 & note 3 side by side , Loaded with the same set of apps and both with Nova launcher, And the animations of scrolling through the home screen or scrolling through lists ,apps etc feels smoother on the Note 3.
I feel that upping the screen resolution has its toll on the Snap dragon 805 ,the combination of SD800+FHD seems to work better than SD805+QHD , and the sad part for me is that no matter how hard i try , i just cannot see any considerable deffirence in the N4 as opposed to the N3's screen that warrants the compromise of performance (or battery life if any, not tested this yet).
Also, I am not a heavy gamer but i occasionally play DC's Injustice which is a heavy 3D game, The game plays better on the Note 3 than on the Note 4 while both are cold(higher FPS but a tad longer loading times) , Once things start heating a bit , the throttling on the note 4 kicks much sooner and heavier than on note 3, a price to pay in 3D performance for a non descreminable bump to screen quality?
The screen of the Note 4 have much cooler whites than on Note 3 i give it that, But it is disturbing to find the performance lacking.
I'm keeping the Note 4 as i like lots of things in it, But i think it missed out on being a really perfect phone.
Just my thoughts
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The Annandtech tests back when the LG G3 was launched showed that 800& FHD gave the same performance as 805& QHD. You notice a big difference on the LG G3 which has an 801 with QHD. That phone suffers from terrible frame rates and lag. The Note 4 I find is fine.
Offcourse the resolution will kill performance. It's alot of pixels to drive, and it makes the screen sweet to look at!
There is software that can force a lower resolution to games and stuff if you suffer from low framerate.
The 805 has alot of power though. Just benchmarked my tablet with the Tegra 3 processor (with overclock) and i get around 2800 points in 3Dmark unlimited.
About 20050 on my note 4 Snapdragon stock.
Quite the performance boost in just a few years.
Gamebench v1.3 analysis of Asphalt 8 game play - Device: Note 4 Exynos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58709458&postcount=2020
On CM12 my SD note 4 absolutely flies, unfortunately TW is far slower than it should be on such great hardware; hopefully the Lollipop update will be more optimised
I think this problem is for the note 4 exynos users because the frame rate is poor. I'm coming from note 2 and my brother had a note 3 snap Dragon and the note 4 is a downgrade where framerate is concerned. I compared it with the note 2 and note 3 and it is obviously different. and saying that the reason for its lack of fluidity is because of its quad hd display isn't good enough. why make a screen with such high ppi and not have good gpu rendering? anyway I don't believe note 4 users with the snapdragon processor are having this rendering problem because the snapdragon is actually a better processor. and lastly I hope that the lollipop update should, in some way, improve the graphic performance of the exynos 5433. I look forward to all future development!
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ddaharu said:
I think this problem is for the note 4 exynos users because the frame rate is poor. I'm coming from note 2 and my brother had a note 3 snap Dragon and the note 4 is a downgrade where framerate is concerned. I compared it with the note 2 and note 3 and it is obviously different. and saying that the reason for its lack of fluidity is because of its quad hd display isn't good enough. why make a screen with such high ppi and not have good gpu rendering? anyway I don't believe note 4 users with the snapdragon processor are having this rendering problem because the snapdragon is actually a better processor. and lastly I hope that the lollipop update should, in some way, improve the graphic performance of the exynos 5433. I look forward to all future development!
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Exynos Note 4 has a higher frame rate than Snapdragon variant in every title - use Gamebench to measure practical real life FPS performance not the benchmarks
ddaharu said:
I think this problem is for the note 4 exynos users because the frame rate is poor. I'm coming from note 2 and my brother had a note 3 snap Dragon and the note 4 is a downgrade where framerate is concerned. I compared it with the note 2 and note 3 and it is obviously different. and saying that the reason for its lack of fluidity is because of its quad hd display isn't good enough. why make a screen with such high ppi and not have good gpu rendering? anyway I don't believe note 4 users with the snapdragon processor are having this rendering problem because the snapdragon is actually a better processor. and lastly I hope that the lollipop update should, in some way, improve the graphic performance of the exynos 5433. I look forward to all future development!
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You seems to be very well informed [emoji14]
Actually Exynos 5433 beats the SD805 in games and performance. And both of them outperform the Note 3.
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Exynos Note 4 has a higher frame rate than Snapdragon variant in every title - use Gamebench to measure practical real life FPS performance not the benchmarks
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Lodix said:
You seems to be very well informed [emoji14]
Actually Exynos 5433 beats the SD805 in games and performance. And both of them outperform the Note 3.
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Thats great to hear seeing that i have the exynos verision lol but back to the main topic, the frame rate is actually lower than the note 3. this isnt gaming performance but rather regular usage. Like using third party lockscreens, coming in and out of app drawers, and just regular transitions, yuh know? stuff like that. i held it side by side to the note 3 and i was dissappointed. and people say that the exynos is better but i saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Hkb3FAncc and it clearly shows that the graphics on the snapdragon is better. :/ i'm not trying to be a hater or anything like that. i was just dissappointed in the framerate. spread love and joy!
ddaharu said:
Thats great to hear seeing that i have the exynos verision lol but back to the main topic, the frame rate is actually lower than the note 3. this isnt gaming performance but rather regular usage. Like using third party lockscreens, coming in and out of app drawers, and just regular transitions, yuh know? stuff like that. i held it side by side to the note 3 and i was dissappointed. and people say that the exynos is better but i saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Hkb3FAncc and it clearly shows that the graphics on the snapdragon is better. :/ i'm not trying to be a hater or anything like that. i was just dissappointed in the framerate. spread love and joy!
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The Snapdragon has a bit better GPU power, but the Exynos runs better games due to its more simple architecture. And both have higher frame rate then Note 3.
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The Snapdragon has a bit better GPU power, but the Exynos runs better games due to its more simple architecture. And both have higher frame rate then Note 3.
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thanks! I looked at a couple videos a few minutes ago and the exynos won over the snapdragon so I do have the better device! lol and well I hope the lollipop update activates the total 64 bit processor.
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The Note 3 is quicker than the Note 4, but it's probably software and the screen.
The difference between SD and Exynos is negligible really. I don't trust Exynos since S2 days when games took time to become optimised or never came out for it at all.
Am i the only one who has a nexus 6 that stutters from time to time. No apps installed aside from facebook.
Since i browse the net the most, i find stutters when scrolling and typing. Even when reading XDA. Scrolling either isnt smooth or lags.
I have a galaxy s5 lte-a and it is way better.
I love the design and lollipop on the nexus but i might have to return it due to the subpar battery life and non swappable battery...