Basically my questions are simple, I tried Googling quite extensively but cannot find a comprehensive answer.
Moto X Motomaker vs the Moto X Developer Edition pro and cons...
Here is what I think I know
Motomaker (MM from this point forward) is how you make it, has 16 and 32gb models and comes with a locked bootloader that must be unlocked to flash a ROM or change the fancy things like battery icons and the framework mods. Must wait for verizon to push updates to you at their own rate.. let me know if i'm wrong..
Developer Edition (DE from this for forward) is only 2 tone black and white and only available in 32gb. Bootloader is unlocked stock, can flash roms, change framework, custom apps, mod and tethering, android updates available whenever Google releases them or just come to XDA and find a leak.
I'm wondering if getting the DE is going to be worth the cost and if i comes BLANK with no Verizon bloat on-board. can i still use active notification and camera gesture etc if i flash a ROM?
I understand that the idea flashing a ROM is to get as close as humanly possible to stock android which it already is.
I'm going to be purchasing tomorrow so if you are all out there a timely response would be awesome!
On a side note I'm getting this phone to replace an S4 thats limping along with Safestrap and a Nexus Launcher.
Who's your carrier? T-mobile and Sprint allow you to unlock your bootloader http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/09/t-mobile-moto-x-added-to-motorola-bootloader-unlock-program/
If you have Verizon or AT&T you'll need to get the dev edition.
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Verizon Wireless..
Dev edition it is
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If you want to run latest versions of android as soon as possible, Developer Edition might not be the ticket. As you can see already, carriers have started to push out kitkat earlier than motorola itself.
Titanoxide said:
Basically my questions are simple, I tried Googling quite extensively but cannot find a comprehensive answer.
Moto X Motomaker vs the Moto X Developer Edition pro and cons...
Here is what I think I know
Motomaker (MM from this point forward) is how you make it, has 16 and 32gb models and comes with a locked bootloader that must be unlocked to flash a ROM or change the fancy things like battery icons and the framework mods. Must wait for verizon to push updates to you at their own rate.. let me know if i'm wrong..
Developer Edition (DE from this for forward) is only 2 tone black and white and only available in 32gb. Bootloader is unlocked stock, can flash roms, change framework, custom apps, mod and tethering, android updates available whenever Google releases them or just come to XDA and find a leak.
I'm wondering if getting the DE is going to be worth the cost and if i comes BLANK with no Verizon bloat on-board. can i still use active notification and camera gesture etc if i flash a ROM?
I understand that the idea flashing a ROM is to get as close as humanly possible to stock android which it already is.
I'm going to be purchasing tomorrow so if you are all out there a timely response would be awesome!
On a side note I'm getting this phone to replace an S4 thats limping along with Safestrap and a Nexus Launcher.
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I'm in the same boat. I think the idea of the Moto X is great especially since it's getting the updates in a timely manner. I wonder though if the Developer Edition would be any different. Just because it's a Developer Edition doesn't mean it's a Google Play Edition meaning it will probably only receive the update when the Moto Maker X gets an update. That being the case (if I'm correct). Should I purchase the Developer Edition over the Motor Maker X. The only thing I would need to do is wifi tether since I am still on unlimited data and use it daily.
I have the Verizon Dev edition, and the only reason why I got it was so that I can unlock it and root it. With Dev editions you can only get white. If you want to unlock and root and are on AT&T or Verizon, then get the Dev edition, otherwise just get the Moto Maker edition.
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I have the Verizon Dev edition, and the only reason why I got it was so that I can unlock it and root it. With Dev editions you can only get white. If you want to unlock and root and are on AT&T or Verizon, then get the Dev edition, otherwise just get the Moto Maker edition.
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What have you done with your Dev Edition Moto X that you couldn't have done with the Moto Maker Version? And I'm asking what have you done, not what you plan on doing. Given the opportunity to do it all over again would you get the Dev Edition again or would you get a Moto Maker version?
Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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LoL. Makes it even harder to decide if I want the Dev Edition or the Moto Maker personalized one tomorrow morning.
pablomoca said:
What have you done with your Dev Edition Moto X that you couldn't have done with the Moto Maker Version? And I'm asking what have you done, not what you plan on doing. Given the opportunity to do it all over again would you get the Dev Edition again or would you get a Moto Maker version?
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I have unlocked and rooted my phone, I have installed Xposed and Gravity Box, and Greenify. I also plan on changing the bootloader, but have not found one I liked.
I believe you can root the Moto X without unlocking the bootloader, but from what I understand it is a headache when OTAs come through and there are chances of it bricking the phone. Since I was able to unlock the bootloader, I was able to flash TWRP and flash SU. And I don't have to worry about OTAs screwing up my phone.
But I need to stress this, do not spend the extra money on Dev edition if you are not on Verizon or AT&T, the Moto Xs from Motomaker can be unlocked.
The only added bonus the Dev edition brings is that unlocking it does not void the warranty which is nice because there can be cases which arise when it is a manufacture defect which the warranty would cover and it is nice to have that protection. But if you unlock a non Dev edition, it will void the warranty.
I personally would go with the Dev edition. There is always bound to be something I want to do to it. Plus future proofing
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Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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I did not unlock the bootloader until last week, which is also when I finally got time to unlock it and root the phone. But the change in warranty policy was a nice push.
I recommend unlocking and rooting your phone, I really missed Greenify and Titanium Backup. It might be a placebo effect or being on break last week I didn't use the phone as I normally do, but Greenify really helped the battery life. I went almost 22 hrs and about 2 hrs of screen time with no recharge couple times, using (Snapchat, Chrome, Reddit News, SMS, Hangouts, Phone, Plume, Maps, CBS Sports) heavily. Hopefully when I go back to normal usage this occurs again.
I should have been thinking about this a lot sooner than tonight. I'm leaning towards the Moto Maker edition for the obvious reasons of the color options. All I need is root the main thing I care about is tethering. And if I'm not mistaken there are apps on the market that will allow me to do that without root. I currently have a rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 3 and the only thing I use root for is tethering.
I went for the developer edition. I think it is worth the money..
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What does the Dev edition offer that the retails does not?
1) a true custom recovery
2) no exploit needed for root
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Perhaps faster upgrade process, flagship product.. Investment in quality products...
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Perhaps faster upgrade process, flagship product.. Investment in quality products...
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Your post doesn't add up...
" Perhaps faster upgrade process" - nope. Same for everyone. I believe motomaker version got it first...
"flagship product" - Motomaker is advertised, Dev edition is not known to all.
"Investment in quality products" - they are both the same phone.
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I'm planning to buy the Moto X today. I live in Asia/Middle East. Will the T-Mobile Off contract version work? Because i want to customize my phone through moto maker. I know LTE most likely most wont work, but my main concern is will it detect any sim and 3g data should work. Thanks for the help in advance.
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I'm planning to buy the Moto X today. I live in Asia/Middle East. Will the T-Mobile Off contract version work? Because i want to customize my phone through moto maker. I know LTE most likely most wont work, but my main concern is will it detect any sim and 3g data should work. Thanks for the help in advance.
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yes t-mobile is sim unlocked and 3g should work.
Hi Guys,
Accidentically bought AT&T moto x 2014. Is it possible to unlock this phone for europe gsm carriers? I am total noob, because this is my first phone based on android.
Thanks
Yes its possible, u need to pay but its easy. Just install the app Unlock your Moto X from the play store and do the steps in the app.. I did it and in 2 days i got my unlock key.
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Yes its possible, u need to pay but its easy. Just install the app Unlock your Moto X from the play store and do the steps in the app.. I did it and in 2 days i got my unlock key.
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How much it costs? Because I've bought it on ebay and maybe seller could help me with this until phone was not sent out to me.
only 19,00
If only this process unlocked the bootloader as well.
I'm really turned on by an eBay deal on a used (but refurbished) Verizon unlocked Moto X for 180$. But I guess there are a few things no one's telling me when buying this device...
I can think of the following:
1. Battery already worn out
2. Unable to unlock the bootloader & root the device
3. Unable to use some of the functions (heard about USB tethering doesn't work?!)
I'd be happy to hear from you what's indeed true and what's not, and other possible drawbacks. Also, I live outside the US if that matters.
Thanks, and hopefully this will help others looking at this apparently popular deal.
The MX battery was never great to begin with, but after a year it should still be at least 85-90% effective. J wouldn't worry about that.
The Verizon MX has no bl unlock, sorry. There is a very convoluted root process which only works with 5.0 and earlier.
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There is a BL unlock available for the XT1096. An updated version of Sunshine was released that will unlock the Moto X 2014 as long as it has never been updated past 5.0. Technically it would work on 5.1 but it needs root and no root is available for 5.1.
chrisrozon said:
The MX battery was never great to begin with, but after a year it should still be at least 85-90% effective. J wouldn't worry about that.
The Verizon MX has no bl unlock, sorry. There is a very convoluted root process which only works with 5.0 and earlier.
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Thanks. The unlocking thing is really upsetting.
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There is a BL unlock available for the XT1096. An updated version of Sunshine was released that will unlock the Moto X 2014 as long as it has never been updated past 5.0. Technically it would work on 5.1 but it needs root and no root is available for 5.1.
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Sounds risky to buy a phone without knowing what version it has and if unlocking will be successful, especially if there's no easy way for me to return the device.
I think I'll search for the pure edition after all.
There isn't a Pure version of the 2014 X that is compatible with Verizon's network.
I have the 5dollar insurance on my phone through Google. I have yet to unlock the bootloader and root the phone yet. How is Google about replacing your phone if something happens to It. If you somehow screw the pooch rooting your phone, what happens then?
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Hello, I am new to all things related to custom roms and such, but I'm trying to get into it.
I am going to buy a phone, and I am considering the moto x4, and there's one thing I would really like, which is to unlock it and run lineageOS on it, so I can start figuring out how to make my phone work for me. However, I have a fear.
Previously, I had a sony xperia, where the bootloader was locked by the vendor, and it wasn't possible to fix that, it seemed. I ended up returning the phone for that reason. I would really rather not have this happen again, so I was wondering if this can be the case with the moto x4 as well? More specifically, if certain releases of the phone are locked while others aren't, how can I figure this out BEFORE buying it?
So, in summary: How do I tell before buying the device whether it's going to be possible to unlock the bootloader and run custom stuff on it?
Thanks in advance.
blurghh said:
Hello, I am new to all things related to custom roms and such, but I'm trying to get into it.
I am going to buy a phone, and I am considering the moto x4, and there's one thing I would really like, which is to unlock it and run lineageOS on it, so I can start figuring out how to make my phone work for me. However, I have a fear.
Previously, I had a sony xperia, where the bootloader was locked by the vendor, and it wasn't possible to fix that, it seemed. I ended up returning the phone for that reason. I would really rather not have this happen again, so I was wondering if this can be the case with the moto x4 as well? More specifically, if certain releases of the phone are locked while others aren't, how can I figure this out BEFORE buying it?
So, in summary: How do I tell before buying the device whether it's going to be possible to unlock the bootloader and run custom stuff on it?
Thanks in advance.
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Moto X4 and Moto X4 A1 are unlocked phones and Motorola will provide the bootloader unlock code (this does void your warranty). The only exception to this unlock is the Amazon subsidized version to the best of my knowledge.
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Moto X4 and Moto X4 A1 are unlocked phones and Motorola will provide the bootloader unlock code (this does void your warranty). The only exception to this unlock is the Amazon subsidized version to the best of my knowledge.
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Ah, thanks a lot. How can I recognize the Amazon version, if I'm buying it second-hand?