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4.2 Insane Battery Life! Project Roadrunner?

I don't know if it's just me, but I've been experiencing some insane battery life of my N7. I've gone about 4hrs on battery, wifi on, and battery hasn't dropped even 1%. Anyone experiencing the same?
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nogutznglory said:
I don't know if it's just me, but I've been experiencing some insane battery life of my N7. I've gone about 4hrs on battery, wifi on, and battery hasn't dropped even 1%. Anyone experiencing the same?
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Without a doubt. Before 4.2, my screen on time topped out at 5 hours. Now I can pull 6 hours.

Sounds off. No change at all in 4 hours? Can't be correct.
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There is no way that's accurate... Power down the device and power it back on. See if it still says 100%.

same here
YES I am having insane battery life as well. Still 100% and hasnt changed after 3-4 hours. Will keep observing
nogutznglory said:
I don't know if it's just me, but I've been experiencing some insane battery life of my N7. I've gone about 4hrs on battery, wifi on, and battery hasn't dropped even 1%. Anyone experiencing the same?
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I noticed the longer battery life also. When a lot of stuff is running sometimes I will use the ES Taskmanager Kill app and when I did that there is more free memory than before and even when a lot of apps are being used there is more free memory than before also.

HOLY. Definitely inaccurate. I notice a small increase in battery life, but nothing that big. I get like 30 minutes extra.

Ryands991 said:
There is no way that's accurate... Power down the device and power it back on. See if it still says 100%.
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Ok.. Just powered down and powered back up..
Nothing changed.
I won't plugged my n7 til it dies.. See how long it'll last..

It's not strange on a devices with such a big battery to last 4 hours on 100%. Notice how the screen is rarely on?

That seems inaccurate but battery life is definitely better
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It's not strange on a devices with such a big battery to last 4 hours on 100%. Notice how the screen is rarely on?
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That's what I was thinking. But since I bought the device, it hasn't done this. This is either a bug or battery life is extremely increased!
On 4.1.2 my battery drops 1% in 16 minutes of the same usage. This is definitely way beyond!
Still monitoring it.
Might as well play a few games to see what happens.

There is definetely a bug with battery readings.. It is likely drop more than normal , once it drops to %99.

Ok. I did a bit of NFS and it brought my battery down to 95%. Now to see if it'll drop normally.

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4.1.2
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Isn't it obvious? Google implemented project roadrunner. xD
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CJHolderUK said:
Isn't it obvious? Google implemented project roadrunner. xD
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Hmm.. I thought that was a rumor??

nogutznglory said:
I don't know if it's just me, but I've been experiencing some insane battery life of my N7. I've gone about 4hrs on battery, wifi on, and battery hasn't dropped even 1%. Anyone experiencing the same?
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I think your battery stats are jammed, I'm not seeing anything like that at best 30 - 40 minutes of extra battery, which is still nice. If your right your device is drawing power from the air around it

I had very simalar resdultsvwhen i flashed the ota url. But i flashed the factyory image the other day to start off fresh and no longer have reults like this. I'm not saying I'm getting bad battery... Far from it. It's just not the same as when i flashed the ota which is strange.
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My guess is the update just messed up the battery app like it did everything else.Keep your charger handy so when your tab shuts down and it still shows 100% you can charge it.

Please post screenshots of your SCREEN ON time with your Nexus 4 here

Please post screenshots here of your SCREEN ON time (NOT the percentage stats screen).
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Thanks for your help :highfive:
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thats not bad. is that with autosync enabled?

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Please post screenshots here of your SCREEN ON time (NOT the percentage stats screen).
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**** yeah! Please post image of the battery graph with time on battery!
waiting for my n4 and flipping tables
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**** yeah! Please post image of the battery graph with time on battery!
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holly sh*t, thats awesome screen on time! were you using data connection all along or was it on wifi connection??

IINexusII said:
thats not bad. is that with autosync enabled?
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**** yeah! Please post image of the battery graph with time on battery!
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holly sh*t, thats awesome screen on time! were you using data connection all along or was it on wifi connection??
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The screenshot used above was strictly so people post the correct screenshot, it is NOT a Nexus 4

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The screenshot used above was strictly so people post the correct screenshot, it is NOT a Nexus 4
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Nexus 7 right?

I would say, post the SCREEN ON TIME, as well as the STAND BY TIME ... Both are important.
Also, some bits of info how did you use the device and general settings (auto-brightness, GPS on/off, WiFi? 3G?) ...
Otherwise, it won't matter ... I can have 6-7 hours screen on time on my GNex for doing nothing ...

Push this thread! We need the answers with screenshots from the ones who already got a final device! This is much better then all the reviews.

That was first full charge. Battery is poor
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That was first full charge. Battery is poor
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Isn't wifi supposed to turn off when the phone is on standby? It looks like it's constantly connected from that chart.

Yeah something wrong there.. that's about 1/3 of what my GNex does, and common wisdom is the battery life on that is poor.

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Isn't wifi supposed to turn off when the phone is on standby? It looks like it's constantly connected from that chart.
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I have not seen anyone else's to compare but I thought so

I am on 43% battery, 1h 42m screen on time over 7h 26 mins. Pretty bad battery - phone is so smooth though!
Only web browsing and apps. No video or games.

Is your WiFi on constantly
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Not too bad, it's my second full charge. I did have it charging via USB for about 30 minutes while I was using adb, but overall I think its pretty good.
EDIT: I forgot to mention I had NFC and GPS off.
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Yours is the same constant WiFi
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Yeah the Wi-Fi bar on my Nexus 4 is solid across the entire history graph as well. Now I don't remember what that's supposed to look like. I leave wifi turned on all the time, even if i'm not connected to a network. Is that why? Or does it normally only show when you're actually connected to a network?
I'm currently at 6h 5m, 68%, 50m screen on time.

GR36 said:
Yours is the same constant WiFi
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You choose what you want to happen with WiFi, go into settings > WiFi > hit the three dot menu and then advanced, from there you can choose the sleep setting for WiFi, by default it is set to always on.
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GR36 said:
Is your WiFi on constantly
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Having WiFi turn off when the screen is off is worst for the battery. The phone will just switch to 3G when it needs data.

Sorry op but this will not get anyone anywhere.
You need to set up rules. Screen on time can be determined by MANY, MANY factors
First of all it would be good to make a screenshot of the battery inventory. For instance
Out of 100% how much % was dedicated to the browser or what else other program
I would really reocmmend downloading gsam battery stats and making a screenshot within the app. It lists a lot of things,
I bet you this phone can do 8 hours of screen on time if not longer, how? Just leave the screen open the whole time and do nothing. So while one might get 8 hours and the other 2 - we will never know under what circumstances thus this thread being useless.
Right now we only have a screenshot of the phone's screen on time ONLY. Useless. I've experienced that telephone calls drain more battery than the screen itself or uses up to at least as much.

Are you Serious?

really? i barely used the phone. everyone is turned off except wifi and i did not even use the the browser. this can't be real. only that much time and it's almost halfway dead and i barely used it. i know there have been battery threads before but man... how can it be this horrible. btw juice defender don't do crap, i've had it for the today and yesterday, was crap so i uninstalled. had brightness are low as i can without making me squint.
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I'm no expert but it looks like you may have some serious wake locks?
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I've had relatively poor battery life as well... I went 12 hours with a recharge from 10 to 50% again before it completely drained...
I'm not impressed with the battery on this phone but everything else has been great.
... I'm starting to think I'll have to make my own Qi Charger for pant pockets... embed it in your pocket so whenever the phone is there it's charging. I'm seriously considering trying this to see if it's possible... if so, i'm doing it for sure. Or a carrying case with an extra battery and a Qi Charger... or a Qi charger dock for the car... you get the idea. Wireless charging shouldn't be the fix for poor battery life, but it definitely could help it.

The first thing I would do is remove that dreaded task manager

yo2boy said:
The first thing I would do is remove that dreaded task manager
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it's too useful to remove....without it, i would be draining battery much faster.

jinjin12 said:
it's too useful to remove....without it, i would be draining battery much faster.
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BZZZZT! Wrong answer. Rid of it, and turn off locale/Now when you don't really need it.

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it's too useful to remove....without it, i would be draining battery much faster.
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Wrong.
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Ahahahaha I didn't even see the task manager. Yes remove that and your battery should improve a lot. Also if you're running jellybean, you have an auto task manager.
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it's too useful to remove....without it, i would be draining battery much faster.
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Task managers mess around with Android's memory management and it is fairly well known that they usually end up draining more battery than they save. Try getting rid of it.
Also other people are reporting that the battery life gets better after a few days of using. Is yours really new? Im not sure how true that is btw.

Probably a combination of that task killer and a wake lock.
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Install Franco's kernel. Battery life has been outstanding (1 Gmail account sync, 1 Exchange account sync, maybe 30 minutes of calls and 100+ texts a day; I have location services & Google Now enabled as well). I average 3+ hours screen on time and I normally end the day around 30% ...
I would stay away from task managers ... it's not that I know what's going on more than you or anyone else, but well established and respected kernel developers recommend against it. If these guys don't know then I honestly don't know who else does ...

yo2boy said:
The first thing I would do is remove that dreaded task manager
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BZZZZT! Wrong answer. Rid of it, and turn off locale/Now when you don't really need it.
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just uninstalled advanced task manager to diagnose the problem, and so far it still remains, so the task manager is not that problem.

jinjin12 said:
just uninstalled advanced task manager to diagnose the problem, and so far it still remains, so the task manager is not that problem.
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You're gonna have to be patient for results. Also reboot and fix your wake locks soon and you'll see better battery.
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1. remove the task killer, you REALLY don't need it
2. Install BetterBatteryStats http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
3. Go on a wakelock witch hunt.
Question: were you on the same WiFi network the whole time? Is it your home network?

3thanol said:
You're gonna have to be patient for results. Also reboot and fix your wake locks soon and you'll see better battery.
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Yep...20-30 minutes won't tell the tale. I'd also recommend Brightness Toggle widget...allows a few extra steps (16 total, IIRC) of brightness control over stock, to fine tune screen brightness, often another culprit.

Turn off location access!!
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This couldn't have gone in the existing battery thread for what reason exactly?
Sigh! The search feature really must be too mind-blowing for some people.
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Or if you don't want solid advice/help, stop posting. And this should be Q&A.
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How are ppl complaining about battery it's been nothing but stellar for me. running latest cm nightly this was with one hour of streaming music and one hour of GTA
Edit: I also flashed a ROM at around 80% so my battery would've been even better as reboots always drain some
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Fyi
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Found a way to drastically reduce Android System battery usage

Finally think I found a way to dramatically reduce the toll "Android System" takes on battery life:
1: Download EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the Play Store.
2: Find "Android System" in the list of apps, then select "Manage".
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3: Look for "IQService" at the bottom on the list and tap the check so it shows as disabled.
4: Look for "com.qualcomm.atfwd" and tap the check so it shows disabled.
5: Exit the app and reboot.
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kcodya said:
Finally think I found a way to dramatically reduce the toll "Android System" takes on battery life:
1: Download EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the Play Store.
2: Find "Android System" in the list of apps, then select "Manage".
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3: Look for "IQService" at the bottom on the list and tap the check so it shows as disabled.
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4: Look for "com.qualcomm.atfwd" and tap the check so it shows disabled.
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5: Exit the app and reboot.
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Does disabling this thing disable anything else?
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I haven't noticed anything else being affected.

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I haven't noticed anything else being affected.
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How much android system you had before and how much you have now ?
Whats your firmware

Was around the same before, but over a 2 hour period instead of a 9 and half hour one. I'm on the latest firmware, APG1.

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Was around the same before, but over a 2 hour period instead of a 9 and half hour one. I'm on the latest firmware, APG1.
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What is the percentage.?
That period it was in standby ou using the phone?

It was around 94%. Browsed the Web for around 15 minutes then backed up some photos before bed, then let the phone sit over night. Before the tweak, Android System would ALWAYS be at the top of battery usage no matter what I did.
Here is my usage from the last hour. Basically been using the phone non stop, web browsing and listening to podcasts via Pocket Casts:

kcodya said:
It was around 94%. Browsed the Web for around 15 minutes then backed up some photos before bed, then let the phone sit over night. Before the tweak, Android System would ALWAYS be at the top of battery usage no matter what I did.
Here is my usage from the last hour. Basically been using the phone non stop, web browsing and listening to podcasts via Pocket Casts:
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Mine at the end.
Usually have 18% when start but never goes up with wifi or 4G, only get lower.
This is the best rom i tried after ACP8.

Is this only for rooted phones?
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Even if there is no battery improvement, disabling CarrierIQ is something that pretty much everyone should do since it is just gathering information about your usage without your permission. Thanks for pointing this out.

I don't see a "Manage" button for Android System in EZ Package Disabler. Disabler is version 2.3.2 and the line for services count isn't even shown for Android System. Are you on an older version?

antizombie said:
I don't see a "Manage" button for Android System in EZ Package Disabler. Disabler is version 2.3.2 and the line for services count isn't even shown for Android System. Are you on an older version?
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2.4.1 is the latest version and it's there on mine
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2.4.1 is the latest version and it's there on mine
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Yea I just noticed the update after I posted. Found the button. Reboot was successful so I'll see how it goes. Thanks.

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Is this only for rooted phones?
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No, works on non-rooted.

Just disabled these and Android system usage is already dropping after like a half hour. Thanks for the tip!!!
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Is the app the one for $1.49 in the play store?
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Android System does drop correct? Does it change battery health
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Okay just did this so we will see.
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Is the app the one for $1.49 in the play store?
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Yes it is. Well worth it too Imo.
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is it better to disable or delete ?

This can also be done using titanium backup. Just look for com.qualcomm.atfwd, click it and hit freeze. (Not sure if it's safe to uninstall or not).

Battery drain problems

Hello guys!
I have battery drain problems and I can't find the reason if it's causing it an app or just bad radio signal. Overnight my phone loses about 5-6% with Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, Data, location switched off in about 6 hours of sleep. Same drain had it with airplane mode enabled in some occasions.
A detail I want to report, is that I have closed background data for all of my apps, except those apps I want to have notifications, such as Viber, Telegram, Gmail, Google, Calendar, Tapatalk, YouTube etc. Closing background data it's a method I use (right or wrong) to all of my previous phones and I thought it would be helpful with battery drain issues.
I'm on Android 11 but same thing happened with Α10 too. I use 90Hz refresh rate, no motion sense at all. No Root or unlocked bootloader. Radio signal ranges about -87dBm to -90dBm and I uninstalled all of my apps to find the problem. What could it be;
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Have you got root?
Install better battery stats
Naptime
Servicly
Report back overnight
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drup88 said:
Have you got root?
Install better battery stats
Naptime
Servicly
Report back overnight
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Hi.
Installed BBS with ADB commands to unlock battery stats etc, cause I haven't root.
Here some screenshots. I'll send some more the next few days.
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Hi.
Installed BBS with ADB commands to unlock battery stats etc, cause I haven't root.
Here some screenshots. I'll send some more the next few days.
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It would be better to save a dump and post it in the BBS thread. There are a lot of people who have been analyzing dumps for years there. Make sure to make it for at least 6 hours with less than 1 minute screen on time.
I would strongly advise against using Servicely and Naptime. They are not needed on newish phones and OSs and can cause more harm than good.
Btw, it sounds like you're getting less than 1%/hr idle drain, which isn't that bad.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

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It would be better to save a dump and post it in the BBS thread. There are a lot of people who have been analyzing dumps for years there. Make sure to make it for at least 6 hours with less than 1 minute screen on time.
I would strongly advise against using Servicely and Naptime. They are not needed on newish phones and OSs and can cause more harm than good.
Btw, it sounds like you're getting less than 1%/hr idle drain, which isn't that bad.
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How can I save a dump and what do you mean make it for at least 6 hours with less than 1 minute sot? Every 6 or 7 hours I have to save a dump file?
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How can I save a dump and what do you mean make it for at least 6 hours with less than 1 minute sot? Every 6 or 7 hours I have to save a dump file?
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Instructions are in the OP of that thread.
Basically have your phone charged to around 90% or so (can be less but don't charge it to 100%), unplug and immediately turn off your screen. Don't use the phone for 6 hours (so best to do it overnight). After at least 6 hours turn your screen on and go into BBS and save a dump file (it's under the share icon and will be saved in Internal storage>Android/data/com.asksven.betterbatterystats/files/download). Or if easier you can share it to a place where you can retrieve it. Then post that dump file in the thread.

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Instructions are in the OP of that thread.
Basically have your phone charged to around 90% or so (can be less but don't charge it to 100%), unplug and immediately turn off your screen. Don't use the phone for 6 hours (so best to do it overnight). After at least 6 hours turn your screen on and go into BBS and save a dump file (it's under the share icon and will be saved in Internal storage>Android/data/com.asksven.betterbatterystats/files/download). Or if easier you can share it to a place where you can retrieve it. Then post that dump file in the thread.
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Okay I'll try it maybe tommorow. Thank you!
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Okay I'll try it maybe tommorow. Thank you!
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You're welcome.