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3G vs HSDPA signal strength?

I've just got a diamond on orange. In my local town Orange have 3g coverage using 3 masts. Signal strength isn't very good usually 2 bars or less unless your line of sigh with the mast.
After ordering one of those little unlocking chips that you sit your simcard on in the phone I put a payg vodafone sim in and almost everywhere in town the signal strength is better, often to the point of getting 2 bars with orange and 4 with voda.
This doesn't make sense as vodafone only have 2 masts here, both are further away and emit a slightly less powerful signal than orange 28dbw vs 30
I have tested this in several parts of the town and 7/10 times voda has better signal.
Can anyone suggest why this is? The only difference I can see if voda is hsdpa and orange is just plain 3g.
Thanks
Huw

huwwatkins said:
I've just got a diamond on orange. In my local town Orange have 3g coverage using 3 masts. Signal strength isn't very good usually 2 bars or less unless your line of sigh with the mast.
After ordering one of those little unlocking chips that you sit your simcard on in the phone I put a payg vodafone sim in and almost everywhere in town the signal strength is better, often to the point of getting 2 bars with orange and 4 with voda.
This doesn't make sense as vodafone only have 2 masts here, both are further away and emit a slightly less powerful signal than orange 28dbw vs 30
I have tested this in several parts of the town and 7/10 times voda has better signal.
Can anyone suggest why this is? The only difference I can see if voda is hsdpa and orange is just plain 3g.
Thanks
Huw
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It's all to do with the frequencies the UK operators use Vod and O2 use the 850MHz spectrum and T-Mo and Orange the 1800/1900, while 3G starts at 2100, which is why the signal is even less persistent through walls/buildings etc.
That's why we have dual/triple/quad band phones- technically in UK we only need dual +3G
Mobile phone transmit Base station transmit
Vodafone GSM 900: 890 - 894.6 MHz 935 - 939.6 MHz
BT Cellnet GSM 900: 894.8 - 902 MHz 939.8 - 947 MHz
Vodafone GSM 900: 902 - 910 MHz 947 - 955 MHz
BT Cellnet GSM 900: 910 - 915 MHz 955 - 960 MHz
Vodafone GSM 1800 &
BT Cellnet GSM 1800: 1710 - 1721.5 MHz 1805 - 1816.5 MHz
T Mobile GSM 1800: 1721.5 - 1751.5 MHz 1816.5 - 1846.5 MHz
Orange GSM 1800: 1751.5 - 1781.5 MHz 1846.5 - 1876.5 MHz
The UMTS/3G frequency allocations are as follows (to be confirmed):
1900 - 1900.3 MHz - Guard band
1900.3 - 1905.2 MHz (4.9 MHz bandwidth) - Unmatched spectrum - licence D - T-Mobile
1905.2 - 1910.1 MHz (4.9 MHz bandwidth) - Unmatched spectrum - licence E - Orange
1910.1 - 1915.0 MHz (4.9 MHz bandwidth) - Unmatched spectrum - licence C - O2
1915.0 - 1919.9 MHz (4.9 MHz bandwidth) - Unmatched spectrum - licence A - '3'
1919.9 - 1920.3 MHz - Guard band
1920.3 - 1934.9 MHz (14.6 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (mobile transmit) - licence A - '3'
1934.9 - 1944.9 MHz (10 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (mobile transmit) - licence C - O2
1944.9 - 1959.7 MHz (14.8 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (mobile transmit) - licence B - Vodafone
1959.7 - 1969.7 MHz (10 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (mobile transmit) - licence D - T-Mobile
1969.7 - 1979.7 MHz (10 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (mobile transmit) - licence E - Orange
2110 - 2110.3 MHz - Guard band
2110.3 - 2124.9 MHz (14.6 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (base station transmit) - licence A - '3'
2124.9 - 2134.9 MHz (10 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (base station transmit) - licence C - O2
2134.9 - 2149.7 MHz (14.8 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (base station transmit) - licence B - Vodafone
2149.7 - 2159.7 MHz ( 10 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (base station transmit) - licence D - T-Mobile
2159.7 - 2169.7 MHz (10 MHz bandwidth) - Matched spectrum (base station transmit) - licence E - Orange
2169.7 - 2160 MHz - Guard band

Hi
I was referring to 3g/hsdpa signal strength only, not 2g. So in theory orange should have the better signal, but it doesnt.

huwwatkins said:
Hi
I was referring to 3g/hsdpa signal strength only, not 2g. So in theory orange should have the better signal, but it doesnt.
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Voda use a lower frequency which persists better in normal conditions but may be more subject to geographical interference.

Windoze9t8 said:
Voda use a lower frequency which persists better in normal conditions but may be more subject to geographical interference.
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Hi
But we're only talking 10-20mhz difference between the 3g signals they both use?

Any got any ideas? Same thing happened with my mate yesterday. He's on three and he got much better signal than me even though three's coverage is by far the worst here. Only difference, three broadcast Hsdpa.
Maybe I should try o2 here as they dont broadcast hsdpa and see what happenens.

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