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Hi Guys,
I picked up my Nexus 4 from O2 here in the UK this morning, for what it's worth here are my initial thoughts.
I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus.
As per all the professional reviews, it does seem like a well made piece of kit. The glass back while being another fingerprint magnet is
a nice touch. When moving the phone suddenly or shaking the phone it does rattle. I took it back to O2 and they all the Nexus 4's they had in stock did it. It's loud enough to be noticeable, but not so loud i wanted my money back. The stores explanation was the accelerometer. I'm sure others will shed more light on this in time.
While the screen is crisp it is not as striking as some reviews would have me believe on auto brightness it is pretty dark (Much darker than my gnex on auto)
The sound is excellent but it does suffer from a muffled almost inaudible speaker when the phone is on the side face up on my desk. This has been a gripe of mine on previous phones.
Swipe style typing works really well, as does the new camera software. The pictures are a huge leap up from the Gnex
Battery needs further testing but so far has performed well. Wi Fi also has a FAR better range than the Gnex
My closing thoughts would be if coming from the Galaxy Nexus it may not be a huge leap up for you. If money is an issue i would wait....
But if you are an early adopter i'm sure you will love it.
I'm sorry it's a brief review, i'm no Shakespeare. If anyone has any specific questions though i would be happy to answer.
Shaun
Is the rim made out of pure rubber? I'm just curious about folks with latex allergies, etc.
shadyshaun said:
Hi Guys,
I picked up my Nexus 4 from O2 here in the UK this morning, for what it's worth here are my initial thoughts.
I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus.
As per all the professional reviews, it does seem like a well made piece of kit. The glass back while being another fingerprint magnet is
a nice touch. When moving the phone suddenly or shaking the phone it does rattle. I took it back to O2 and they all the Nexus 4's they had in stock did it. It's loud enough to be noticeable, but not so loud i wanted my money back. The stores explanation was the accelerometer. I'm sure others will shed more light on this in time.
While the screen is crisp it is not as striking as some reviews would have me believe on auto brightness it is pretty dark (Much darker than my gnex on auto)
The sound is excellent but it does suffer from a muffled almost inaudible speaker when the phone is on the side face up on my desk. This has been a gripe of mine on previous phones.
Swipe style typing works really well, as does the new camera software. The pictures are a huge leap up from the Gnex
Battery needs further testing but so far has performed well. Wi Fi also has a FAR better range than the Gnex
My closing thoughts would be if coming from the Galaxy Nexus it may not be a huge leap up for you. If money is an issue i would wait....
But if you are an early adopter i'm sure you will love it.
I'm sorry it's a brief review, i'm no Shakespeare. If anyone has any specific questions though i would be happy to answer.
Shaun
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This will seem like an odd question but are you able to feel the speckle pattern on the back? Like is it bumpy or is the pattern just under neath the glass?
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This will seem like an odd question but are you able to feel the speckle pattern on the back? Like is it bumpy or is the pattern just under neath the glass?
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It's underneath the glass.
PoisonWolf said:
Is the rim made out of pure rubber? I'm just curious about folks with latex allergies, etc.
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Yes it is.
If you are curious about people with latex allergies this is a good starting point
h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latex_allergy
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This will seem like an odd question but are you able to feel the speckle pattern on the back? Like is it bumpy or is the pattern just under neath the glass?
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Must be underneath?
jonnyg1097 said:
This will seem like an odd question but are you able to feel the speckle pattern on the back? Like is it bumpy or is the pattern just under neath the glass?
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its under the glass
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jonnyg1097 said:
This will seem like an odd question but are you able to feel the speckle pattern on the back? Like is it bumpy or is the pattern just under neath the glass?
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As per what was said above, it's underneath the glass. I was worried about it looking tacky. But it works well. Hold the phone one way and the back is pure black, then you tilt it and you get the speckle effect. Muck like a hologram on a bank card.
The rattling isn't fine, something is loose or not fit right.
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When moving the phone suddenly or shaking the phone it does rattle.
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That's worrying, care to elaborate on that? Are you going to exchange it?
could you try "spirit Fm" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296&page=480 and\or contact mike in order to know if it has hidden fm radio?
thanks in advance
Sony NEX-5N all over again^^
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That's worrying, care to elaborate on that? Are you going to exchange it?
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I took it back to the store, they had 5 in stock. All 5 rattled (As crazy as it sounds i wanted to test all of them)
For anyone familiar with the problems on the Sony NEX 5N camera 'Clicking' it's a bit like that.
I have 28 days if it is deemed 'faulty' but until more info comes out on it i'm going to hold on to the phone.
If 5 out of 5 do it i would presume a huge number if not all will, that said i'm surprised it wasn't picked up in any of the reviews.
As google begin to deliver time will tell.
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Sony NEX-5N all over again^^
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Ha! Beat me to it, that's exactly how i would sum it up....
Can you post some pics?
Is it unlocked?
Which O2 shop?
the rattling is a concern...when i get mine, i will test it out. could be the camera.
i shook my mytouch 4g and i heard some rattling as well. maybe its a normal thing?
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If you are curious about people with latex allergies this is a good starting point
h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latex_allergy
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Lmfao! :laugh:
Anyway, I'd really appreciate it if you could post some Linpack and Quadrant Advanced (to see where it is scoring less than the Optimus G) benchmarks. Also, exactly how much storage space is available for the user?
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Can you post some pics?
Is it unlocked?
Which O2 shop?
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Yes it's unlocked and on the Three network. The O2 store assured me it was locked, but lets face it what do they know?
It's from the O2 store in Milton Keynes
I haven't got enough post to attach photos but i have shared the album on my google+ account (Search for Shaun james)
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Lmfao! :laugh:
Anyway, I'd really appreciate it if you could post some Linpack and Quadrant Advanced (to see where it is scoring less than the Optimus G) benchmarks. Also, exactly how much storage space is available for the user?
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About 12 based on Anandtech's review.
How much would you rate it after buying the phone?
Anyone regret getting it?
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Anyone regret getting it?
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Only thing I dont like is that the USB C port cutout is too sharp. When I hold it with my finger, it seem to cut it at times
No regrets at all. Just AOSP rom would be a lot better, which should arrive soon.
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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Try the Pelosi case.
It's a slim TPU case with a sandstone finish & available in several colors.
It's available on eBay & several other on line retail sites
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Try the Pelosi case.
It's a slim TPU case with a sandstone finish & available in several colors.
It's available on eBay & several other on line retail sites
Sent from my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4 using XDA Labs
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I've seen the Pelosi case online. The product images looked like the case didn't offer much in terms of protection, especially around the screen. Also the material seemed to be very light, possibly to keep the case slim. The case looks good and I was tempted to buy. I didn't because of these reasons.
But if you have the case and its good, please post photos in my thread. Link
I created that thread as there are very few good cases available for this device and if everyone could post photos of what case and screen protector they had on the device, it would help other buyers too.
satishp said:
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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There are 3 armor cases available on amazon finally. One looks bulletproof lol. I have shared a link on the tough case thread.
nikhil.mehta said:
There are 3 armor cases available on amazon finally. One looks bulletproof lol. I have shared a link on the tough case thread.
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That's the Love Mei Powerful case! I saw it a few days back on ebay. Mine is on the way from China. Did you get it too?
It should arrive next week. Have you ordered this too?
The case is a bit large though.
Please post pictures of your current setup on this thread and also if you happen to receive the Love Mei case before me.
Check out the case I am currently using. I have added photos here. Also available on ebay.
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I did, until I got the unlock approval. I immediately flashed the xiaomi.eu rom and (most) of my gripes were dealt with; being android auto not working and horrible background battery drain. I still hate the home screen icon backgrounds, the fact it wont rotate, and the stock dpi... but other than that I am happy, for now.
My only complaint is that the screen is too small for my liking. I've had several larger phones in the past and I really miss the extra screen real estate. It almost seems like the screen is too skinny and long. So webpages are still small but long.
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My only complaint is that the screen is too small for my liking. I've had several larger phones in the past and I really miss the extra screen real estate. It almost seems like the screen is too skinny and long. So webpages are still small but long.
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Try 320dpi. I'm lovin it! 320 was the stock dpi on the Xperia Z Ultra I had a few years back. And it works great on the Mix too. I feel 320 should have been the default DPI on the Mix.
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Try 320dpi. I'm lovin it! 320 was the stock dpi on the Xperia Z Ultra I had a few years back. And it works great on the Mix too. I feel 320 should have been the default DPI on the Mix.
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I thought a dpi that low would break things on this device? Like the icons get screwed up or something?
I had a Z ultra too, loved it.
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I thought a dpi that low would break things on this device? Like the icons get screwed up or something?
I had a Z ultra too, loved it.
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No issues mate! I'm on the EU ROM and I don't see any issues at 320. This should have been the stock DPI. I can confirm that everything works fine. No issues with icon or any UI elements. Stock apps and all the other usual apps work great as well. All good! You'll be able to see more info on the screen and I bet you'll love 320!
I was waiting for something like the Z Ultra to show up. And finally it did! If you had the Z Ultra, you may remember that camera wasn't Sony's priority. It was all about the experience. And Xiaomi has made that experience even better! The mix is just perfect!
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No issues mate! I'm on the EU ROM and I don't see any issues at 320. This should have been the stock DPI. I can confirm that everything works fine. No issues with icon or any UI elements. Stock apps and all the other usual apps work great as well. All good! You'll be able to see more info on the screen and I bet you'll love 320!
I was waiting for something like the Z Ultra to show up. And finally it did! If you had the Z Ultra, you may remember that camera wasn't Sony's priority. It was all about the experience. And Xiaomi has made that experience even better! The mix is just perfect!
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I just tried 320DPI, oh man, I love it!!! It even fixed my News360 app that I love but would only show me 2 articles per screen on this phone and now shows 6!
The only downside is that top status bar with the clock and battery and such is pretty small. But that's certainly a good compromise as the reset of the phone looks normal now, all I did was bump the UI font size up from small to medium and it all looks great.
All of the icons appear to be working fine, but I use Nova Launcher, so maybe that why.
320 DPI is pretty much a standard DPI for android, and so I expect alot of apps are tuned for that DPI.
Thanks for the great suggestion! The phone looks like a normal phone now....
Received mine today. I thought I could get by without a case but no way. It's slippery! Luckily a case came with it.
satishp said:
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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There are, just use eBay or AliExpress.
About the camera you can take better pictures with another camera app or just learn to hold still and focus correctly xD I can take n decent photos.
It was easier in my s7 edge but even so I knew from the beginning this camera was inferior.
Here you have some photos taken by the default camera app and being steady.
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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There are, just use eBay or AliExpress.
About the camera you can take better pictures with another camera app or just learn to hold still and focus correctly xD I can take n decent photos.
It was easier in my s7 edge but even so I knew from the beginning this camera was inferior.
Here you have some photos taken by the default camera app and being steady.
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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Those are some good clicks mate! Like I said, camera was not a priority for me when I bought this device. I usually don't use my phone cameras a lot and only for some occasional snaps.. I knew that this device had an inferior camera compared to the competition.
Most people usually depend on their phone's camera for random clicks like when your drunk friend is doing something funny at a party or when it appears as if your dog is smiling. Random events like these, when you may not have your dedicated camera at hand. That's when your phone's camera is handy. And for casual spur of the moment clicks like these, this phone's camera is quite unreliable. In most cases those moments you intended to capture would end up as a blurry or noisy mess.
Like you said, if you put enough effort, you may be able to get a few good shots like you just shared. But that was not my point as it defeats the purpose of a phone's camera.
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I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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Jeez, nothing wrong with those at all.
I agree as well. Took a few shots and pics look fine. From all the reviews, I was expecting worse.
Best phone I've ever owned.
iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5 -> HTC One -> Samsung S5 LTE-A -> Note 7 (pretty nice) -> Xiaomi Mi Mix.
This thing is a MONSTER. Fast as hell, best battery I've ever seen (better than the Note 7), humongous display, sexy as build quality, tons of RAM, tons of fast memory, fast charging, etc. I'm surprised this exists.
So today I got my shiny new 6T from OP, a full day earlier than promised. As usual beautifully boxed, with all the trimming to get you started --- unlike the fruity phones. 15 minutes later I was rooted and on my way. But what really put the icing on the cake is the OP Switch app, which transferred everything from my OP 5. I am not aware of any other Android phone that makes it quite this easy. Bravo OP, the bang for the buck is incredible, and so is the execution for a relatively small company. Now if only the camera cover of the 6T holds up better than the 5. The only reason I am really switching is because the camera cover on the 5 broke quite a while ago, and now one of the pieces fell out making half the image go out of focus.
I replaced the whole camera module on my OP5 before i sold it (since i got the 6T)
Cost almost nothing on Aliexpress, and it was the easiest phone repair i have ever done. Took 5 minutes.
Samsura said:
I replaced the whole camera module on my OP5 before i sold it (since i got the 6T)
Cost almost nothing on Aliexpress, and it was the easiest phone repair i have ever done. Took 5 minutes.
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Wow, maybe I should have saved myself the $625 since I was perfectly happy. Do you mind pointing me to the correct part and a tut on the procedure? TIA
GroovyGeek said:
Wow, maybe I should have saved myself the $625 since I was perfectly happy. Do you mind pointing me to the correct part and a tut on the procedure? TIA
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I see now that i read your post a bit too quick, as you have troubbles with the glass and not the sensor?
My sensor was broken and focus did not work, but the glass was fine.
So i bought this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/One...621.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3fe14c4dj94uqH
Just open the back cover (two screws at bottom, and then a little force with a plastic pick around the side and it popps of), then unplug the cameras, plug in the new ones and put the cover and screws back on.
If you only need to replace the rear glass i would assume that is easier.
I was also really happy with my OP5. It was super thin and light, and the fingerprint sensor was incredible fast.
But the screen and battery life on my OP6T is also great. Having OIS on the camera was also a big reason for me to upgrade.
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They sell glass also, really cheap:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2pc...lgo_pvid=fd5525c1-c433-4f36-a02d-6061fbea8f75
Part of the appeal of a fingerprint scanner is to be able to use it in situations where you can't use face unlock.
I use my phone at literally all times throughout the day. My biggest concern is unlocking it via face unlock when there's no light. I use my phone in bed while my wife is asleep and find myself constantly locking it, unlocking it, etc.
So will it work in the dark? Normal face unlock on most Android phones just use the camera to match a face, but does the Pixel 4 do the exact same thing, or is there a bit more technology in it that will somehow scan my face in the dark and unlock it?
Any insight would be great!
That's one of the main reasons I got this phone, believe it or not. I can't stand unlocking in the middle of the night with those god-awful f*cking optical fingerprint sensors, blinding the sh*t out of you. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure it works in the dark since they used infrared cameras, the soli radar sensor, flood illuminator and the dot projector.
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Part of the appeal of a fingerprint scanner is to be able to use it in situations where you can't use face unlock.
I use my phone at literally all times throughout the day. My biggest concern is unlocking it via face unlock when there's no light. I use my phone in bed while my wife is asleep and find myself constantly locking it, unlocking it, etc.
So will it work in the dark? Normal face unlock on most Android phones just use the camera to match a face, but does the Pixel 4 do the exact same thing, or is there a bit more technology in it that will somehow scan my face in the dark and unlock it?
Any insight would be great!
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it works. i tried it.
catchawabbit said:
it works. i tried it.
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Pitch Black as well? Also, could you test soli in pitch black?
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Pitch Black as well? Also, could you test soli in pitch black?
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Yes
I turned all the lights off. You do have to press to lock button. It lights up the screen and unlocks it instantly
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Yes
I turned all the lights off. You do have to press to lock button. It lights up the screen and unlocks it instantly
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I can live with that, thank you. That's a lot better than being blinded by that built-in fingerprint sensor. Regardless of all the hate, I am really looking forward to it.
ZeroKool76 said:
I can live with that, thank you. That's a lot better than being blinded by that built-in fingerprint sensor. Regardless of all the hate, I am really looking forward to it.
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So far I am very happy with the phone. Now most people wonder how did j get it.. I actually got it from a YouTube reviewer here in berlin
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I can live with that, thank you. That's a lot better than being blinded by that built-in fingerprint sensor. Regardless of all the hate, I am really looking forward to it.
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Which phones have a lit fingerprint sensor? My Pixel 2 XL is just a drab, dark circle on the rear of the phone.
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Which phones have a lit fingerprint sensor? My Pixel 2 XL is just a drab, dark circle on the rear of the phone.
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The optical on-screen fingerprint readers like on OnePlus phones.
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The optical on-screen fingerprint readers like on OnePlus phones.
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This. Which is unfortunately what I have been stuck with, to date. The 31st can't come fast enough.
Not only will your phone unlock in the dark, but if you face your phone towards a mirror and get close to the mirror, it will unlock from your reflection (yes, even in the dark).
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I can live with that, thank you. That's a lot better than being blinded by that built-in fingerprint sensor. Regardless of all the hate, I am really looking forward to it.
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That depends on the type of fingerprint sensor. You seem to be referring to the under the screen kind of which there are two types. There are the ones that basically use a camera sensor to take a picture of your finger through the screen. Those are less secure and do require the screen to light up. There is also the better one from Qualcomm that uses ultrasound to make a 3D mapping of your fingerprint. It is more secure and doesn't require the screen to light up. The Galaxy S10 and Note 10 have the ultrasonic type. I think OnePlus uses the optical type but I'm not sure.
I really would have liked it the Pixel 4 had the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor instead of (or many in addition to) the dumb face unlock.
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That depends on the type of fingerprint sensor. You seem to be referring to the under the screen kind of which there are two types. There are the ones that basically use a camera sensor to take a picture of your finger through the screen. Those are less secure and do require the screen to light up. There is also the better one from Qualcomm that uses ultrasound to make a 3D mapping of your fingerprint. It is more secure and doesn't require the screen to light up. The Galaxy S10 and Note 10 have the ultrasonic type. I think OnePlus uses the optical type but I'm not sure.
I really would have liked it the Pixel 4 had the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor instead of (or many in addition to) the dumb face unlock.
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Yes, I am aware that there are two different types of FP sensors currently available for in screen operation. Ultrasonic being the better and more secure of the two, and obviously works in more conditions than the optical sensor, but unfortunately it's slow as hell as of right now. Which is something I don't understand about OnePlus, why they couldn't use the ultrasonic and just work on the software. Part of the reason why I'm ditching one plus, they're not really good when it comes to software, but they have no problem throwing a sh*t ton of hardware at it to try and make you forget that fact. IMO, optical was last year's tech, companies should be working on making ultrasonic more functional and affordable. As for adding one to the P4, I guess that's user preference. I feel the face unlock will be enough, for me.
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Yes, I am aware that there are two different types of FP sensors currently available for in screen operation. Ultrasonic being the better and more secure of the two, and obviously works in more conditions than the optical sensor, but unfortunately it's slow as hell as of right now. Which is something I don't understand about OnePlus, why they couldn't use the ultrasonic and just work on the software. Part of the reason why I'm ditching one plus, they're not really good when it comes to software, but they have no problem throwing a sh*t ton of hardware at it to try and make you forget that fact. IMO, optical was last year's tech, companies should be working on making ultrasonic more functional and affordable. As for adding one to the P4, I guess that's user preference. I feel the face unlock will be enough, for me.
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My only guess on why One Plus went for the optical sensor is the same reason it doesn't get IP certification.....cost. The ultra sonic sensor probably costs more than the optical sensor. I haven't really had a chance to use either one myself but in the videos I've seen of Samsung phones the ultra sonic sensor does seem to work pretty quick.
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That's one of the main reasons I got this phone, believe it or not. I can't stand unlocking in the middle of the night with those god-awful f*cking optical fingerprint sensors, blinding the sh*t out of you. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure it works in the dark since they used infrared cameras, the soli radar sensor, flood illuminator and the dot projector.
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lol, the 6T would about make a grown man weep!
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lol, the 6T would about make a grown man weep!
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Lol, it nearly has. It has been everything I can do not to chuck this POS against a wall. I have even considered selling it and buying a burner, it's so bad. P4xl is due Thursday, so another day or two shouldn't be too bad. Stoked
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This. Which is unfortunately what I have been stuck with, to date. The 31st can't come fast enough.
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I hate this too. It always amazes me there isn't more complaints about it
I've been plagued by fingerprint issues just like everyone else. But I've also been running an experiment. Every time my fingerprint won't unlock the phone I wash my hands. AND IT WORKS EVERY SINGLE TIME!! The sensor is EXTREMELY sensitive!! If you have even one speck of dust it could fail to unlock.
I promise you.... try it!! It will work every single time!!
I mean really, thanks Google!!! I probably should wash my hands more if they're dirty enough to keep the sensor from working.
Helps to clean the sensor now and then, too. I have this issue on my Pixel 5 all the time.
I actually find the opposite. If my fingers have any dampness at all, it won't read properly.
I only wash my hands once a week and the sensor works fine
Do you have any protection applied on the phone ?
Wash my hands? I never had a device with in display fingerprint which needed washed hands.
I just added a new tempered glass screen protector, and that one is known for being awesome. I added all four fingerprints again, and it all worked like a charm for like five hours. 10/10 instant unlock. Today it does not work anymore. 3/10 unlock and slow. It's a software issue I guess and by now I'm totally fed up with the incompetence of the Google developers. It's a 750€ device, and even 200€ BBK phones got better working fingerprint readers.
I'm quite pi**ed.
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Wash my hands? I never had a device with in display fingerprint which needed washed hands.
I just added a new tempered glass screen protector, and that one is known for being awesome. I added all for fingerprints again, and it all worked like a charm for like five hours. 10/10 instant unlock. Today it does not work anymore. 3/10 unlock and slow. It's a software issue I guess and by now I'm totally fed up with the incompetence of the Google developers. It's a 750€ device, and even 200€ BBK phones got better working fingerprint readers.
I'm quite pi**ed.
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That happens to me too sometimes. Like perfect for a day or so then no matter what I do it's 3/10 just like you. I then reboot and it usually clears it up. One fail safe method it to rub your thumb (or whatever finger you use) across your forehead then try again. I've heard licking your finger but that is disgusting and I'd never do that. Try those 2 methods see if it helps. The March update also seems to make it quicker but it could be placebo.
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It's a 750€ device, and even 200€ BBK phones got better working fingerprint readers.
I'm quite pi**ed.
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I've gone from being pissed to being amused at how bad it is. For me 7 is worse than 6 ever was. Hell, just getting a couple digits enrolled on 7 has been impossible, and for an extra rub it teases and craps out at the 11:55 mark every time.
To be fair, I work with lumber and my digits tend to be rough. But this never stopped me from using fingerprints with older and cheaper phones.
hp420 said:
I've been plagued by fingerprint issues just like everyone else. But I've also been running an experiment. Every time my fingerprint won't unlock the phone I wash my hands. AND IT WORKS EVERY SINGLE TIME!! The sensor is EXTREMELY sensitive!! If you have even one speck of dust it could fail to unlock.
I promise you.... try it!! It will work every single time!!
I mean really, thanks Google!!! I probably should wash my hands more if they're dirty enough to keep the sensor from working.
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What that means is the fingerprint sensor on your phone is of poor quality, just like some of the other components.
Google Pixel phones and their clean (read very basic with lack of features) software are both overrated and overpriced. You're essentially paying the premium to cover their marketing costs, and not for buying a better device.
I live in a dry environment, and I find that if my fingers are particularly dry the FPS doesn't work. Just breathing on my fingertip is usually enough to get the FPS to work. That being said, the March 2023 update seems to have improved the FPS significantly for me. Or it may be placibo effect.
It's 2:00 AM here, I switched off the lights in my room, took my P7, removed all four fingerprints, added them again sitting in full darkness. Turned on lights again. Well... now the fingerprint reader has never been so fast, unlocking so snappy and even with a soft and short touch with the tip of my finger. Hilarious.
I hope the devs at Google optimize the software for this mess of a sensor. What a sh*tshow.
And now at 10:30 AM it does not work anymore... LOL. No matter how I press the sensor, it forces me to put in my PIN to unlock.
This is weird that some people have problems with FPS while others don't.
I was initially afraid about this FPS issue reading all the bad experiences but it works basically 99% of times.
I still suspect it has more to do how you position your finger on the learning phase and is the finger dry or moist.
Because during learning phase it didn't ask to retouch the sensor with moist fingers but did ask to try again with dry finger. I suspect if you teach with moist finger it expects moist fingers but with dryer fingers it seems to not matter that much. On learning phase i pressed slightly harder compared to normal use.
I relearned finger 3 times because on the first two tries it would work about 50% of times. I remember i pressed quite gently on first tries since it looked like it registered it.
On the last try i had semi-dry fingers and tried to mimic normal unlocking position while giving the whole footprint. Even the very bottom part of thumb that normally don't touch the sensor.
Now it's pretty much like OnePlus6 experience with FPS with the exception that when the finger is super dry need to press slightly harder and it will register it.
If it matters i have screen film applied on screen. Not tempered glass.
Also with March 2023 update i haven't had a single fail yet with fingerprint detection.
Initially when received the phone i had October 2022 software and i didn't want to update. Then i exactly remember that it would stop working normally after a day or so. Like it forgot some areas of finger or expected very precise location.
I did buy phone in february and it could be that earlier batches had different FPS hardware revision. Smaller resolution/memory ... ?
I played around with FPS trying to get it to fail and when pressing too gently it fails so i would conclude the right pressure is quite important. Didn't find any difference in total darkness vs well lit room.
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And now at 10:30 AM it does not work anymore... LOL. No matter how I press the sensor, it forces me to put in my PIN to unlock.
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It is a fairly well know thing after Google moved away from the ultrasonic finger print scanners last used on the Pixel 5s, it has not worked well for many people. If you did the research prior you would have seen this has been issue ever since. Easy solution is don't use it and go back to the old style of a pin or pattern.
Can't comment on the face recognition portion, since I haven't done any research on it, nor do I want to, since I don't have a desire to use it, but I am sure other here have extensive experience and knowledge about it. Just have to do the research before trying it if you want to know what may or may not come of it before trying.
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Easy solution is don't use it and go back to the old style of a pin or pattern.
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Even easier is to not use any protection at all.
Both are impractical suggestions.
Having been spoiled by Face Unlock, there is no going back for me. Fingerprint is used mostly in dark environments where Face Unlock struggles.
TheMystic said:
Even easier is to not use any protection at all.
Both are impractical suggestions.
Having been spoiled by Face Unlock, there is no going back for me. Fingerprint is used mostly in dark environments where Face Unlock struggles.
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and the darkness is where my fingerprint on Pixel 7 fails 100% of the time.
Pin is difficult while in motion. Pattern for me is easiest.
To OP, I wash my hands religiously. I won't touch a door knob and then touch my face, so washing alone is not the solution. I imagine it has to do with screen protectors installed since everyone uses different ones that have varying thicknesses and see-through visibility.
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I imagine it has to do with screen protectors installed since everyone uses different ones that have varying thicknesses and see-through visibility.
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I wonder what kind of special fingerprint sensor the Pixel 6 and 7 have then. My last few devices (Realme & OnePlus) with in-display fpr ... well you could have slapped a $2 or a $50 tgsp on it, and it did not matter in any way. They worked just like a charm. I had a Pixel 6 (yeah, f* that pos) and now a Pixel 7 (I really like it) and both fpr are the worst mess.
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I wonder what kind of special fingerprint sensor the Pixel 6 and 7 have then. My last few devices (Realme & OnePlus) with in-display fpr ... well you could have slapped a $2 or a $50 tgsp on it, and it did not matter in any way. They worked just like a charm. I had a Pixel 6 (yeah, f* that pos) and now a Pixel 7 (I really like it) and both fpr are the worst mess.
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You gotta figure out what is wrong. Not too many responses here because most are not having those issues any longer. Originally, yes for sure. But lately it's been working a good 90+ % of the time. Never can get an unlock after swimming though until I moisturize but that's excusable. Get rid of the silly screen protector which is useless unless you are in the sand/gravel business which I see you are not. (nice walls) If it still doesn't work perhaps an RMA would be in order. I've seen that happen and the replacement is way better. But you shouldn't live with a flawed device that is otherwise very good.
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You gotta figure out what is wrong. Not too many responses here because most are not having those issues any longer. Originally, yes for sure. But lately it's been working a good 90+ % of the time. Never can get an unlock after swimming though until I moisturize but that's excusable. Get rid of the silly screen protector which is useless unless you are in the sand/gravel business which I see you are not. (nice walls) If it still doesn't work perhaps an RMA would be in order. I've seen that happen and the replacement is way better. But you shouldn't live with a flawed device that is otherwise very good.
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All good points. I don't have opinions about which screen protector works best since my Pixel 7 sensor is a dud without one. If my 7 is worse than 6 then simple logic suggests there's a defect.
I bought a used Pixel 5 a few months ago as a backup, plus it helped verify my P7 problem isn't my fingers. My wife called the P5 "cute" so now she has it. I've never gone through Google's replacement process before but it should be a breeze compared to getting the P5 back.
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I wonder what kind of special fingerprint sensor the Pixel 6 and 7 have then. My last few devices (Realme & OnePlus) with in-display fpr ... well you could have slapped a $2 or a $50 tgsp on it, and it did not matter in any way. They worked just like a charm. I had a Pixel 6 (yeah, f* that pos) and now a Pixel 7 (I really like it) and both fpr are the worst mess.
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One of the issues seems to be Tensor/Exynos versus Snapdragon. Apparently, the former can't use the latter's ultrasonic sensor tech without infringing on patents. But I think the overwhelming problem boils down to tolerances and inconsistencies in the manufacturing process, especially in the past couple years, and whether our Pixels were assembled during first shift Monday morning, hump day, payday...
@manjaroid lol you have no idea what it took to get my wife to trade in her p5. The p7 cost $100 after so she went for it. Of the rumors of the p8 at 5.8 are true then Black Friday is looking really good. As for your device it does sound like a lemon. Try to get an rma of you can.