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[Discussion] Android Marshmallow for Note 4

As we all know, Android Marshmallow will surely be on our great device, the Note 4. Leaked news say that Note 4 users will start receiving the update in February. Galaxy S6 and its brother Edge will be getting it on January, while the Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus will get it this December. According to these news, the new update will have a new TouchWiz. You can see that it is flat and more Material Design. As we all heard (or some of us), that Google is helping Samsung to create a new TouchWiz that will be so light and so materialistic, which as we can see in the link that it is really more beautiful and looks neater than the older versions. Now, will this new TouchWiz be on our Note 4? I believe it will. I know that the TouchWiz on the Note 5 isn't there for Note 4, but I believe Samsung did that to boost the sales of their Note 5 as it got a lot of bad reviews. Now that a lot of people have bought the Note 5, I think we will get this new TouchWiz along the update Android Marshmallow, or Samsung might even decide to keep their boost for the Note 5 and S7, and release the new TouchWiz for the Note 4 in Android 6.1 (maybe?).
What do you think?

Kazzko said:
As we all know, Android Marshmallow will surely be on our great device, the Note 4. Leaked news say that Note 4 users will start receiving the update in February. Galaxy S6 and its brother Edge will be getting it on January, while the Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus will get it this December. According to these news, the new update will have a new TouchWiz. You can see that it is flat and more Material Design. As we all heard (or some of us), that Google is helping Samsung to create a new TouchWiz that will be so light and so materialistic, which as we can see in the link that it is really more beautiful and looks neater than the older versions. Now, will this new TouchWiz be on our Note 4? I believe it will. I know that the TouchWiz on the Note 5 isn't there for Note 4, but I believe Samsung did that to boost the sales of their Note 5 as it got a lot of bad reviews. Now that a lot of people have bought the Note 5, I think we will get this new TouchWiz along the update Android Marshmallow, or Samsung might even decide to keep their boost for the Note 5 and S7, and release the new TouchWiz for the Note 4 in Android 6.1 (maybe?).
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I dont think so we will get the new theme engine.
we could get an improved touchwhiz.
but in 2016 i'll get a note 6.
used all notes from 2 to 4
but due to lack of expandable storage. I'll be skipping note 5. But thanks to rumours. I'm quite positive that it will make a comeback (fingers crossed)

The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.

Shane_Picardo said:
The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.
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This isn't the last list, it will keep updating. Samsung is really good in making phones but they really suck at software... I am close to ditching it, but I got my Note 4 in September which is most likely for me switch to Nexus phones (or even iOS) in the next few years. Though, hopefully Samsung will enhance due to the next few years...

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This isn't the last list, it will keep updating. Samsung is really good in making phones but they really suck at software... I am close to ditching it, but I got my Note 4 in September which is most likely for me switch to Nexus phones (or even iOS) in the next few years. Though, hopefully Samsung will enhance due to the next few years...
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Hmmm your right, but what I ment to say was looking at note 3's disapproval for android 6.0, note 4 too may not get android 7.0 when it will be released in the future 1 or 2 years from now.

Shane_Picardo said:
Hmmm your right, but what I ment to say was looking at note 3's disapproval for android 6.0, note 4 too may not get android 7.0 when it will be released in the future 1 or 2 years from now.
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At that moment independent developers will come to the rescue (hopefully)

sushant1thakran said:
At that moment independent developers will come to the rescue (hopefully)
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Hehe... yea bro! hopefully they would. But sammy has already heading towards 64 bit OS. The exynos note 4 supports 64 bit libs but our snapdragon phone doesn't.

64bit would help our device alot but it won't happen.. 6.1 should probably be our final build but im on cm so ima stay with the note 4

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The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.
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I don't buy android tab or smartphone cause that is the major problem updates are always comes with new smartphones.

Ausboy 2011 said:
64bit would help our device alot but it won't happen.. 6.1 should probably be our final build but im on cm so ima stay with the note 4
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Hmmm... choice also matters bro. Those who love pure android experience and want latest android versions prefer CM. But as for me, having the latest android version doesn't matter much for me as I love the stock firmware coz there are so many extra options & features that I may not find it on CM. (Not to forget the s-pen features too). Also rooting & installing touchwiz based kernels & roms is like extra icing on the cake! ^_^

Is any news about marshmallow update? Are those release dates official?

hmmm i don't think that the note 4 will have the new touchwiz in near update but i think that it can be ported to our device buy our extremely talented devs.

Basheer33 said:
hmmm i don't think that the note 4 will have the new touchwiz in near update but i think that it can be ported to our device buy our extremely talented devs.
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Of course it won't, it's going to be the story of S3 and we'll also get it badly optimized, but things will be fixed and ported by someone here, as always.

Now we are with Android 5.1.1 BUT still with the old TouchWize UI except some few visual changes here or their !!!
Samsung policy is always like this .... the older generation get nothing new until the Note 4 is dead officially & removed from Samsung lists.
I sold my Note 4 few months back & I got iPhone 6s (such a cool smartphone), then I decide to buy another Note 4 because of the Stylus I really like to play with it, so I'm keeping mt Note 4 as second phone for my other sim.
accept it like it is, update stuff is not for Samsung or Note 4 enjoy like this way.
if you need fast updates get iPhone (I really recommend it) or Nexus phone, also HTC & LG providing faster updates.

one-option said:
...get iPhone (I really recommend it)
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Yes man, iPhone providing smooth & easy way for dealing with stuff, & old iPhones get the new OS even before releasing the new iPhone.
Apps quality are also better in iOS.
in short ...in spite of my short experience with Apple & iOS but believe me iPhone does provide user experience that I can't live without it.
and if Apple will one day provide iPhone with stylus, a Samsung Note like, so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.

one-option said:
so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.
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Only those who bought the Note for the Stylus

one-option said:
Yes man, iPhone providing smooth & easy way for dealing with stuff, & old iPhones get the new OS even before releasing the new iPhone.
Apps quality are also better in iOS.
in short ...in spite of my short experience with Apple & iOS but believe me iPhone does provide user experience that I can't live without it.
and if Apple will one day provide iPhone with stylus, a Samsung Note like, so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.
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Of topic?
This threat is for note 4 marshmallow update.

From wat i saw in both s5 and note 4 neither s5 nor note 4 will have the new touchwiz , u already mentioned the reason cuz both note 4 and note5 are too close in terms of hardware so as usual Samsung decided to go against it's habit and decided not to port the new touchwiZ to note 4 Just to make sure that note5 sales are doing well , and about 6.1 update for note 4 I doubt it will have it I think android 6.0 is going to the last update for note 4 same as note3 that didn't get android 5.1.1 and left with buggy android 5.0 unfortionatly This is Samsung THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY and ptl dont say That every manfacturer does because they don't do it in Samsung way, anyway I am waiting for the update and if leaks were true that it won't have The latest touchwiz as Samsung used to do with previous notes I will move to another brand mostly the next nexus.

Will we see android 10/Q for the note 8? Nothing official I guess

Looking at the latest reports from Samsung we won't be getting an official version, but I assume people will port from something similar or build from source all being well?

I think Android 10 can release for note 8 , samsung was change the updates policy ,but the bad think is it only change after note 8 release , so may or not get 3 updates... s9 and note 9 Will receive 3 os updates

Is their any official news abt note 8 getting A10?

dy111 said:
Is their any official news abt note 8 getting A10?
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No have any official News if will receive or not, but samsung only updates 2 major os , samsung change updates policy to 3 major os updates but after note 8 release..

The thing I've noticed about Samsung though is that even though the next version of Android is released, the new flagship seem to ALWAYS be released with the prior version of Android ( note 10 with pie, this should have been released with Android 10). This means about a month, 2 or 3 months on they Officially upgrade it and thus have fulfilled their commitment of one major upgrade. About a year later out comes the next major upgrade and that model has now been dropped from the upgrade program. Seems a bit of a con to me, now they do the 3 major upgrades this might actually mean support for the full 2 year life expectancy of our phones...

Hope not! Note 8 its prety stable with Pie 9.0! Realy hope Samsung do not update Note 8!

burnin said:
Hope not! Note 8 its prety stable with Pie 9.0! Realy hope Samsung do not update Note 8!
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It's true , with lastest update battery life is good , btw I wish android 10 update and seems it will roll out for us , I hope android 10 can increase note 8 battery life

Please I need help with manual update.
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PDA N950USQU4CRF3
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Bootloader N950USQS5CRKI

danilisilva7 said:
It's true , with lastest update battery life is good , btw I wish android 10 update and seems it will roll out for us , I hope android 10 can increase note 8 battery life
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Lets just hope that Samsung won't suddenly push an OTA that would slowly kill the device / make this device a brick, I owned the Note Edge Exynos variant (The OTA for Android 6.0.1 and their security updates slowly killed the device). Hope this doesn't happen to Note8, I am using Android 9 OneUI 1.0 (February Security update :silly

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No have any official News if will receive or not, but samsung only updates 2 major os , samsung change updates policy to 3 major os updates but after note 8 release..
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but i saw news on mspoweruser that Samsung is officially releasing one ui 2 on s8 and s8+ but they r skipping note 8.

dy111 said:
but i saw news on mspoweruser that Samsung is officially releasing one ui 2 on s8 and s8+ but they r skipping note 8.
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If that's the case then Android 10 would definitely possible for the Note8 via Custom ROMs and stuff, but then again Note8 is newer than the S8 (why would they even think of doing that). I still kind of get it, cause I believe S10 kind of got the Beta for Android 10 before Note10.

Isn't there a way/possibility to port the lastest Android 10 & One UI 2.0 based Note 10+ Rom for our Note8?

New UI

Anyone looking forward to the new UI update? I can wait but I also welcome a new way to navigate through the system.

Can't wait for the One UI 2, but probably gonna hate the back button implementation in android 10.

Don't hold ur breath. Probably won't see the update till spring.

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Don't hold ur breath. Probably won't see the update till spring.
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I've read that beta will come soon... Like for pie, we can expect that someone extract firmware and upload for those that can't join the beta.. ?

I believe we will get the new UI sooner than later, closer to the end of the year but hey it's there

Also I want to add Samsung has truly removed the whole they (meaning Sammy)will not update their phone which is not the case. My Elite9 was last year's flag shipped and reports say Sammy has been working for a while now just couldn't confirm it. Well, bring on change. All the other big changes in the would I can't create a poll for that

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Can't wait for the One UI 2, but probably gonna hate the back button implementation in android 10.
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The beta will only be for the Exynos chips. SD won't get a beta. It's just like last year all over except this year the Note 9 is the Note 8. They wanna sell Note 10s not update the old ones, it's the holidays.

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Also I want to add Samsung has truly removed the whole they (meaning Sammy)will not update their phone which is not the case. My Elite9 was last year's flag shipped and reports say Sammy has been working for a while now just couldn't confirm it. Well, bring on change. All the other big changes in the would I can't create a poll for that
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What?

A little bird at sammobile tells us that Note 9 is getting the 10 beta this week, although from Korean sources, might be for the Korean variant.

Just stop. USA SD chips won't see the beta. Let it go

PlutoDelic said:
A little bird at sammobile tells us that Note 9 is getting the 10 beta this week, although from Korean sources, might be for the Korean variant.
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I actually read that today, let's hope it's true!

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Just stop. USA SD chips won't see the beta. Let it go
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There is not only SD note9 in the world.. So why stop? Who has a exynos version can hope to see a beta soon (as reported on the web in these days..) ?

Android 10 Final Update?

Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.

pedodroid said:
Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.
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Normaly in the past for all other models, things went as you said... 2, max 3 OS updates so maybe note 9 might have Android 11.

joedellosso69 said:
Normaly in the past for all other models, things went as you said... 2, max 3 OS updates so maybe note 9 might have Android 11.
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Android 11 would be its 4th OS.

pedodroid said:
Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.
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not sure what youre talking about. the note 9 has had constant updates all year on both the U and the F versions. To double check historical updates, you can look on sammobile.com/firmwares to see the last few releases. sammobile is pretty decent about keeping historical device links active.
Here is the link to the F version and there is a selector for the different variants as well right above the download links
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note9/firmware/#SM-N960F

gruuvin said:
Android 11 would be its 4th OS.
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Well... That's right, so.. Maybe will not have it.

Youdoofus said:
not sure what youre talking about. the note 9 has had constant updates all year on both the U and the F versions. To double check historical updates, you can look on sammobile.com/firmwares to see the last few releases. sammobile is pretty decent about keeping historical device links active.
Here is the link to the F version and there is a selector for the different variants as well right above the download links
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note9/firmware/#SM-N960F
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I mentioned OS updates a.k.a Android version updates not security updates. Note 9 launched with Android 8.1, received Android 9 last year and Android 10 this year. That's 2 version updates already which is usually Samsung's limit (3 years of security updates not not withstanding). Note 9 based on past flagships shouldn't receive Android 11.

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I mentioned OS updates a.k.a Android version updates not security updates. Note 9 launched with Android 8.1, received Android 9 last year and Android 10 this year. That's 2 version updates already which is usually Samsung limit (3 years of security updates not not withstanding). Note 9 based on past flagships shouldn't receive Android 11.
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oh, you mean the separate versions of Android. You said updates, and they are starkly different things. Also, even within the Android "version" are releases which are also "Android version updates". Not trying to split hairs, rather clarify and help avoid people answering the question you asked vs the one you meant to ask.
So, the answer to that is very unlikely. Android releases are just a hair faster than the phone hardware releases and ive never seen more than 2 years of support on any phone, much less a Samsung one. Check my sig for currently owned Samsung phones.

Well you could see the history repeating it self, in this case we have note 8 wgich didn't get android 10, so i gues this will be the same with note9 when android 11 comes.

Any hope for OneUI 2.5?

Hey guys,
Anyone got any hope or info if OneUI 2.5 is going to come to our beloved Note9? Samsung mentioning that third-party gestures would be fixed in 2.5 in early 2020 and also the fact that there are hidden experimental OneUI 2.5 Gallery features (you can unlock them by going to About Gallery inside the app and tapping the build number 7 times, then a new settings section will come up) makes me wonder if there's a chance. I just wish & hope that the Note9 would end its support on OneUI 2.5 as a Christmas present for us After all the S9 and S9+ got OneUI 2.1 even though their 2 year support cycle expired before that.
August 5th!

Nope

koragg97 said:
Hey guys,
Anyone got any hope or info if OneUI 2.5 is going to come to our beloved Note9? Samsung mentioning that third-party gestures would be fixed in 2.5 in early 2020 and also the fact that there are hidden experimental OneUI 2.5 Gallery features (you can unlock them by going to About Gallery inside the app and tapping the build number 7 times, then a new settings section will come up) makes me wonder if there's a chance. I just wish & hope that the Note9 would end its support on OneUI 2.5 as a Christmas present for us After all the S9 and S9+ got OneUI 2.1 even though their 2 year support cycle expired before that.
August 5th!
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I think it will get one ui 2.5 if it is a separate roll out.
if it is rolled out with android 11 then it becomes doubtful.

snanahmd said:
I think it will get one ui 2.5 if it is a separate roll out.
if it is rolled out with android 11 then it becomes doubtful.
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It will definitely be on Android 10. OneUI 3.0 is coming with Android 11 next year but since the Note20 etc will have OneUI 2.5 it's 100% on Android 10 as we're months away from the official Android 11 from Google.

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It will definitely be on Android 10. OneUI 3.0 is coming with Android 11 next year but since the Note20 etc will have OneUI 2.5 it's 100% on Android 10 as we're months away from the official Android 11 from Google.
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yes looking at samsungs track record they always launch their note series with older android versions ... so yeah it will be on android 10 ... so i think there is like a 70% chance that we will get it most probably.

I'm just getting one ui 2.1 right now downloading as we speak.

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I'm just getting one ui 2.1 right now downloading as we speak.
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Yeah, not sure why, but AT&T was really asleep at the trigger this time - I just got mine two nights ago!

I wouldn't hold out hope for it. Even though the Note 9 is hands down the best, its simply old in terms of phone years.
It may be rough to hear, but we've seen the last of updates like 2.1 .

If we do, we will get a watered down version with some features missing... It will also be a while as it has to trickle down through from the 20 series, through the 10 series to finally dribble onto our Note 9's and S9's...
If we get it, it won't be until after the new year...

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If we do, we will get a watered down version with some features missing... It will also be a while as it has to trickle down through from the 20 series, through the 10 series to finally dribble onto our Note 9's and S9's...
If we get it, it won't be until after the new year...
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Better late than never though. We're in no hurry lol

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Better late than never though. We're in no hurry lol
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Yeah, but as I said, IF....

Some news: https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-9-s9-eligible-one-ui-2-5-update/

yes there is hope...https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-phones-one-ui-2-5-list

Since S20 is already receiving it, S10/N10 will probably get it with the September update. October for us would be optimistic.
Nevertheless, that was not expected at all.

I guess my Christmas wish would come true lol
https://sakitechonline.com/2020/08/22/list-of-all-samsung-smartphones-that-will-get-one-ui-2-5/