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Hey Note Owners.. talk me out of buying

I currently have an S4 on Sprint. The screen cracked a couple weeks ago and I'm ready for my upgrade. I would like to stay on Sprint and I don't mind using my upgrade eligibility to get a big discount (which rules out a phone like the Moto Pure).
I want a bigger phone, ideally 5.7. I want something with an improved battery life (shouldn't be hard my s4 has a SOT of like 3 hours at most). I don't care about not being able to swap the battery or expandable storage. I want a better camera. I want something that will eventually be able to flash custom roms (seems like the note5 is getting close to this).
Why shouldn't I get one in about a week? What phones are better? Again - whatever phone I buy is going to come from the carrier, so something like a used note4 is not an option. Thanks!

The note 5 will work well for most of your needs. But I'm not sure about custom roms though. I'm not sure about the future but right now, development is slow. There is one custom rom at the moment it looks like for sprint. Something like the moto x or the next nexus may be better if development is important to you since they should work across all carriers. The exynos processor and multiple carrier versions will hurt development. But camera and battery life have been amazing (for me at least, some may disagree).
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The new z5 premium also looks nice (will it work on Sprint?)
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I won't talk you out of buying a Note 5, simply because this is the best phone I have ever owned.
The camera, the hardware, the speed, the customization, the sound coming through headphones, the call quality, the battery life, and dat S PEN! Well worth my upgrade and money.
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The new note afaik has an issue with the pen, which when inserted backwards makes it stuck. There are ways to carefully extract it, but you can easily break the S-pen sensor.

zags14 said:
I currently have an S4 on Sprint. The screen cracked a couple weeks ago and I'm ready for my upgrade. I would like to stay on Sprint and I don't mind using my upgrade eligibility to get a big discount (which rules out a phone like the Moto Pure).
I want a bigger phone, ideally 5.7. I want something with an improved battery life (shouldn't be hard my s4 has a SOT of like 3 hours at most). I don't care about not being able to swap the battery or expandable storage. I want a better camera. I want something that will eventually be able to flash custom roms (seems like the note5 is getting close to this).
Why shouldn't I get one in about a week? What phones are better? Again - whatever phone I buy is going to come from the carrier, so something like a used note4 is not an option. Thanks!
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Get a note 4..... If you can find one

dikidera said:
The new note afaik has an issue with the pen, which when inserted backwards makes it stuck. There are ways to carefully extract it, but you can easily break the S-pen sensor.
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That issue is 100% user error. I'm not worried about that
ryanalan82 said:
Get a note 4..... If you can find one
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As I said, I want to take advantage of my upgrade discount so I can't get a note 4. I could find one, but I would be paying 400$+ as opposed to the 250$ i can get the note5 from Sprint for.

oy yes TW, lag and very few custom roms.

My old phone was also a Galaxy S4. I used my upgrade to get the Note 5 and couldn't be happier. To be honest on Sprint the Note 5 is probably the best phone you can get

well...something to consider before buying..the AT&T and verizon variants come with locked bootloaders...

if you have small hands...this is not for you....one hand text sucks big time! Speaker isnt that loud as far as notification goes, unless you root your phone and modify some values. Battery is Decent, you get about 4-5 hours SOT. Dev is so-so on tmobile and international version. I think thats about it. This is my first Note series, all the past note are way too big for me, even this one is big for me, but I can work around it.

Chord_Hugo87 said:
if you have small hands...this is not for you....one hand text sucks big time! Speaker isnt that loud as far as notification goes, unless you root your phone and modify some values. Battery is Decent, you get about 4-5 hours SOT. Dev is so-so on tmobile and international version. I think thats about it. This is my first Note series, all the past note are way too big for me, even this one is big for me, but I can work around it.
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There is actually a feature on the device that lets you slide a keyboard to the side for smaller hands. They were thinking of you and people who text and drive

I had it all...all s series and note series and i was a litle sceptic about removing sd and battery but now I have note 5 in my hands and I have to say it is the BEST phone I had and I had it all and I am from EUROPE

I swore myself off TouchWiz after I owned my S4, it was my least favorite android phone. But after I had a really bad experience with the LG G4, I returned it and swapped it for a Note 5. Absolutely loving this phone. Never have had a phone this snappy even after loading it up with all my apps etc. I always notice that out of the box phones are great, and invariably after a week of use they bog down... Not this thing. Software is way toned down as far as TouchWiz is concerned. The S Pen is a pretty great touch. After having it, I realize if you're going to have a large device, might as well maximize functionality and have a stylus and some decent software to go along with it. I give this phone a solid 9/10, 9 because of the no expandable memory but really is a moot point with cloud storage being so good these days, and free. Also, if you're looking to flash custom stuff, consider that Knox will trip and you'll lose out on Samsung pay and other features requiring intact security flag. Definitely cruise over to the Note 5 sprint development page to see what's available before making a jump.
Really I don't think you can go wrong with this device. It's very well done, and has a very premium feel for a device, a first for Samsung... Finally I feel like I'm getting what I pay for

Love the hardware, hate the software. You definitely get what you pay for when it comes to the hardware, it's really fantastic. But I can't get over how much this phone lags for me and how quickly the battery dies so I will be switching back to an iPhone once the 6s Plus is released. On my old 6 Plus I could end the day with 50% battery, on my Note 5 I have to charge around 5 PM, extremely disappointed. But if you can deal with Android the Note 5 seriously is probably the best out right now.

IAmPears said:
Love the hardware, hate the software. You definitely get what you pay for when it comes to the hardware, it's really fantastic. But I can't get over how much this phone lags for me and how quickly the battery dies so I will be switching back to an iPhone once the 6s Plus is released. On my old 6 Plus I could end the day with 50% battery, on my Note 5 I have to charge around 5 PM, extremely disappointed. But if you can deal with Android the Note 5 seriously is probably the best out right now.
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I've been surfing this forum and am shocked seeing how many people are complaining about bad battery life. I honestly think it is certain carriers. Which model and carrier do you have?
Because I have AT&T and my battery life is exceptional. It is to the point where I don't even worry about battery life anymore.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I've been surfing this forum and am shocked seeing how many people are complaining about bad battery life. I honestly think it is certain carriers. Which model and carrier do you have?
Because I have AT&T and my battery life is exceptional. It is to the point where I don't even worry about battery life anymore.
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I have Verizon, I've even gone and used Package Disabler Pro to turn most of the bloat off and have full strength signal the whole day. I've gone from not having to worry at all about battery to seeing it drop to 75% after 3 hours of barely any use.

IAmPears said:
I have Verizon, I've even gone and used Package Disabler Pro to turn most of the bloat off and have full strength signal the whole day. I've gone from not having to worry at all about battery to seeing it drop to 75% after 3 hours of barely any use.
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Bro, something is wrong. It's either verizon royally screwed something up in their software or you have a defective phone. No joke.
My Note 5 sips battery and all I did was disable all the AT&T bloatware, I didn't even use that app. I am consistently getting 20-25 hours off the charger and 5-8 hours of screen on time. I'm not over exaggerating either.
Losing 75% in 3 hours of not doing much is definitely a problem. I would see if other verizon users are experiencing the same. If not, I would exchange it for a new one unless you are already hell bent on getting the iPhone.
Good luck!

I purchased the Package Disabler Pro app a few hours ago, I'll let you know how it goes on my end. Im on a Verizon Note 5

hunsinger89 said:
There is actually a feature on the device that lets you slide a keyboard to the side for smaller hands. They were thinking of you and people who text and drive
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Hahaha damn got caught.

Anybody moving on to other flagship?

So I think this is it, I'm getting annoyed with TW once again ?. All those little lags, jitters, disabling DVFS helps but not that much, whatever.
So the obvious question, has any one of you moved to any flagship phone from Note 4, which was worth it? AOSP based mostly I was thinking anyway. I am ready to give up on display and screen size and probably even camera LOL, (what else are there anyway?) and was thinking about HTC 10, what do you think, worth it?
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Did you try rooting the note 4 and running CM rom? It works very well, you'll have all the specs of note 4 and an AOSP rom as well.
Regards,
Tejas
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I don't find touchwiz much annoying while weighing it's features against the small lags. I got used to multi-windows & Shealth stuff. I don't experience much lags in marshmallow custom rom with s7 Ports(Dr.Ketan's rom & Nameless rom). If my pocket allows I will go for Note 7 later this year

im sell my htc M9Plus and buy note 4, after rooting this phone is aBeast

Yes, I am moving to Mi Max 128GB.. like MIUI ROM.

tejas986 said:
Did you try rooting the note 4 and running CM rom? It works very well, you'll have all the specs of note 4 and an AOSP rom as well.
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LOL root really? That was done in less than an hour of getting the phone man. But which CM could I run on my G version without any problem? I did flash CM Remix few days ago, and it gave me at least dozens of errors in less than 10 minutes, never saw anything like that ever in my life, so came back to TW. Also CM messes up with camera photo quality right? And makes the fingerprint scanner invalid? And S Heath sensors too?

ithehappy said:
LOL root really? That was done in less than an hour of getting the phone man. But which CM could I run on my G version without any problem? I did flash CM Remix few days ago, and it gave me at least dozens of errors in less than 10 minutes, never saw anything like that ever in my life, so came back to TW. Also CM messes up with camera photo quality right? And makes the fingerprint scanner invalid? And S Heath sensors too?
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I never faced any problems when I had installed it. But I always tried the build from here:
https://www.cmxlog.com/12.1/trltexx/
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Tejas
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I agree with you..Well too many options available new flagships came out the new moto z and one plus 3 but i guess you better wait for the note 6 aka note 7 coming out in august..
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I've not had any major problems with my N910C after updating to Marshmallow. I've experienced the odd lag here and there but works great 98% of the time.

If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!

Melissakis said:
If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!
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Yep, my biggest gripe.
Don't care how awesome the battery is, once it's flat, it's flat... I have both the Note 4 and the Note Edge, having the spare batteries gets me through the times when I can't charge it.
For those who say to use a battery pack, that's unnecessary weight in my pocket, lugging around a battery pack attached to the phone don't need to tear pockets from weight of pack). To change the battery I remove the spare from my bag, remove the old and slap in he new. Old battery back in the bag and I'm happy...

ultramag69 said:
Yep, my biggest gripe.
Don't care how awesome the battery is, once it's flat, it's flat... I have both the Note 4 and the Note Edge, having the spare batteries gets me through the times when I can't charge it.
For those who say to use a battery pack, that's unnecessary weight in my pocket, lugging around a battery pack attached to the phone don't need to tear pockets from weight of pack). To change the battery I remove the spare from my bag, remove the old and slap in he new. Old battery back in the bag and I'm happy...
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That's the one aspect of the importance of the removable battery. The other one is the serviceability.
I've been using my Note 4 for 18 months and the battery started behaving strangely, not holding up as it used to, sudden drops etc. Off to the store, paid €25, bought a new one, put it on, new phone!

I move to ios and its great. still have the note 4 cause of the spen. Waiting for note 7 and see if it is worth it. If not maybe trying to get the win 10 phone.

Waiting for note 6(7), will buy on release if it has sd slot, don't care about removable battery at all.

The importance of having a removable battery is the power capacity of the battery itself so if you do get 4000mah with the note 7 why do you need a removable battery!! Indeed it's an option but not quite necessary..
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Nope, staying and waitin for Note 7. What I have learnt is that with every brand there will be somethings I don't like and Samsung has the least of those, so I am happy with Galaxy Note range for the next 2years or so.
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Thanks all for the feedback, except two I am still confused. I wish these times I was a simple minded person like my parents who couldn't tell difference between Android and Nokia 1200, whatever.
I have been checking the HTC 10 section every now and then, and this is what I gather:
- Better camera
- Better build (Obviously!)
- Significantly better support from XDA, and its beyond argument that Sense is lighter and better than TouchWiz
- Class leading audio, but I don't really care about that!
But a smaller and inferior display, however if display is pixel perfect then that's acceptable, no S Pen, no S Health sensors, and more importantly still pretty steep price wise, but waiting like a month will cool it down a bit I suppose.
Thinking....thinking...

Awaiting for note7!!!!
N-910F

ithehappy said:
Thanks all for the feedback, except two I am still confused. I wish these times I was a simple minded person like my parents who couldn't tell difference between Android and Nokia 1200, whatever.
I have been checking the HTC 10 section every now and then, and this is what I gather:
- Better camera
- Better build (Obviously!)
- Significantly better support from XDA, and its beyond argument that Sense is lighter and better than TouchWiz
- Class leading audio, but I don't really care about that!
But a smaller and inferior display, however if display is pixel perfect then that's acceptable, no S Pen, no S Health sensors, and more importantly still pretty steep price wise, but waiting like a month will cool it down a bit I suppose.
Thinking....thinking...
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The Notes have one killer feature, and one thing only, the Spen. If you can do without it, then there are plenty of other options out there. If you can't do without it, then you have no option.

Melissakis said:
If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!
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You can easily get a brand new one at a very reasonable price. In fact the price has actually dropped £100 more at the online retailer where I purchased mine from last year!
Melissakis said:
That's the one aspect of the importance of the removable battery. The other one is the serviceability.
I've been using my Note 4 for 18 months and the battery started behaving strangely, not holding up as it used to, sudden drops etc. Off to the store, paid €25, bought a new one, put it on, new phone!
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That is the main reason why I got the Note 4 last year! Instead of getting the SGS6 or the Note 5. As I like having the ability to replace the battery myself without having to open up the whole phone or take it into a store to get it replaced. As we all know that the first thing to start to degrade in any mobile device is the battery. So having the ability to replace it easily ourselves is a good thing. Shame that all android OEMs are have removed this feature from their device's designs.

root !!!

hello !
root or custom rom or ... damage battery life ?
i had a note 5 and i rooted that and it was terrible!!
even with flash to stock not fixed !!
s8+ like that ?
(i want buy note 8 soon)

Pooya500 said:
hello !
root or custom rom or ... damage battery life ?
i had a note 5 and i rooted that and it was terrible!!
even with flash to stock not fixed !!
s8+ like that ?
(i want buy note 8 soon)
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Search their threads...no damage but there are some issues with Samsung's software limiting charging to 80%...I should say that there is always a risk with rooting...you may end up with a brick if you do not follow what is stated to do...root at your own risk...

BlueFox721 said:
Search their threads...no damage but there are some issues with Samsung's software limiting charging to 80%...I should say that there is always a risk with rooting...you may end up with a brick if you do not follow what is stated to do...root at your own risk...
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my note 5 just have battery problem
its SOT just 2-3 Hours with black theme - greenify and ....
and its health was 80%

Battery seems better than s8+

After 2.5 years, I rooted my Note 4. It was great. Great battery life. Then I tried to update the root to 6.0 and I lost root and was never able to get it back. Now it's the same pile of wakelock battery draining suck that it's always been. I have three apps on it and I get constant wakelocks. I got the same wakelocks when I had no apps except what comes with stock. I lost 40% battery today with it just sitting there doing nothing. I sure do hope that the Note 8 doesn't have the same wakelock issues.
If I hadn't blown root on the Note 4, I'd probably have kept it until it died, just for the removable battery.

BlueFox721 said:
Battery seems better than s8+
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Interesting because every reviewer points out the smaller battery in it.
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Yeah right

Ya know, I'm kinda glad rooting is risky again like it was back when I started. Get rid of the new breed of noobs. Everyone expects root at the tap of the screen now. I remember part of unlocking the bootloader/permanent root of the eVo 3d was bricking it. Actually being nervous about destroying an expensive device. It's been way to easy for too long.

me_ashman said:
Interesting because every reviewer points out the smaller battery in it.
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The note has 6GB of Ram which runs Android and everything a lot easier and cooler... I think this is the reason the battery lasts longer than the s8+ even with a smaller battery. As technology grows things get smaller not bigger
I saw a few youtube reviews too but they looked clueless to ever using a note before lol

https://www.theverge.com/ces/2017/1/3/14152542/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-spec-features-ces-2017

usmaak said:
After 2.5 years, I rooted my Note 4. It was great. Great battery life. Then I tried to update the root to 6.0 and I lost root and was never able to get it back. Now it's the same pile of wakelock battery draining suck that it's always been. I have three apps on it and I get constant wakelocks. I got the same wakelocks when I had no apps except what comes with stock. I lost 40% battery today with it just sitting there doing nothing. I sure do hope that the Note 8 doesn't have the same wakelock issues.
If I hadn't blown root on the Note 4, I'd probably have kept it until it died, just for the removable battery.
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Why don't you root it back than?
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me_ashman said:
Interesting because every reviewer points out the smaller battery in it.
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Yeah everyone knows that it's smaller. But that doesn't mean it's worse than the s8+. Most of the youtubers say **** without even testing it out
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If you go international root should be seamless with TWRP and the rest of the associated goodies functioning fine, Snapdragons are another story. There is some hope that the lessons learned on the S8 will be quickly transferable to the Note 8, seems like a reasonable assumption but an assumption nevertheless. I long ago learned not to bet against the smart guys that make the magic happen around here but nothing will change the fact that the vast majority of all development will be aimed at the international phones. Flashers know who they are and will be buying international knowing all this without me or anyone else ever having said it. I understand the desire to stick with Snapdragon and the reasons why some do it but new guys should understand that the advantages of development will not be leveraged on the Snapdragons to anywhere near the extent it will be on the internationals. That's a known right now, look at development over on the recent Samsung forums since they've gone to a universal locked NA Snapdragon and see where the effort is going for yourselves, you don't have to take my word for it.

me_ashman said:
Interesting because every reviewer points out the smaller battery in it.
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Samsung knows what they are doing. The AMOLED Panel on the Note 8 draws less power then the panel on the Gs8. Remember reading that in certain condition it used up to 22% less power. They had to sacrificed some battery space for the spen but made up for it with an improved Panel and software optimizations . Even though the v30 has a similar display I bet the Note 8 will still beat it in battery life.

Kevinj14 said:
Why don't you root it back than?
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Believe me, I tried. I spent an entire day trying to get root back on it, and just ended up stuck in dozens of boot loops. I could not get it back. Frustrating. Rooting it was easy, the first time around.

usmaak said:
After 2.5 years, I rooted my Note 4. It was great. Great battery life. Then I tried to update the root to 6.0 and I lost root and was never able to get it back. Now it's the same pile of wakelock battery draining suck that it's always been. I have three apps on it and I get constant wakelocks. I got the same wakelocks when I had no apps except what comes with stock. I lost 40% battery today with it just sitting there doing nothing. I sure do hope that the Note 8 doesn't have the same wakelock issues.
If I hadn't blown root on the Note 4, I'd probably have kept it until it died, just for the removable battery.
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I have rooted Note 4 since I have bought. Also with 6.0.1 Android - the battery live is great. Read the post for Note 4 rooting & etc.

Pooya500 said:
hello !
root or custom rom or ... damage battery life ?
i had a note 5 and i rooted that and it was terrible!!
even with flash to stock not fixed !!
s8+ like that ?
(i want buy note 8 soon)
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I have a note 5 and rooted never had any impact for me with battery.

Death-Dealer said:
Ya know, I'm kinda glad rooting is risky again like it was back when I started. Get rid of the new breed of noobs. Everyone expects root at the tap of the screen now. I remember part of unlocking the bootloader/permanent root of the eVo 3d was bricking it. Actually being nervous about destroying an expensive device. It's been way to easy for too long.
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TL;DR
Stay off my lawn, you damn kids!

MrAshMan said:
The note has 6GB of Ram which runs Android and everything a lot easier and cooler... I think this is the reason the battery lasts longer than the s8+ even with a smaller battery. As technology grows things get smaller not bigger
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I think what you are reffering to Ashman is better efficiency.
Efficiency allows less electron leakage by the transistors by a more efficient design. Its amazing if you look at the actual die with each new revision silicon. They have more transistors, usually less leakage, and require less power due to the transistors being more efficient. One major way leakage/inefficiencies surface is by heat.
So, by a CPU design that is superior than the last, it "should" require less voltage to operate at = to or greater than the clock speed of it predecessor, have an increase in transistor count (usually 2-10%), perform = or > predecessor in operations per clock cycle at any given speed, and cost less to manufacture.
Of course there are many other factors that come into play when designing any hardware/software, but I believe these above are the big ones on the bucket list. If not, then they need be! :good:

leeboski44 said:
I think what you are reffering to Ashman is better efficiency.
Efficiency allows less electron leakage by the transistors by a more efficient design. Its amazing if you look at the actual die with each new revision silicon. They have more transistors, usually less leakage, and require less power due to the transistors being more efficient. One major way leakage/inefficiencies surface is by heat.
So, by a CPU design that is superior than the last, it "should" require less voltage to operate at = to or greater than the clock speed of it predecessor, have an increase in transistor count (usually 2-10%), perform = or > predecessor in operations per clock cycle at any given speed, and cost less to manufacture.
Of course there are many other factors that come into play when designing any hardware/software, but I believe these above are the big ones on the bucket list. If not, then they need be! :good:
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Yeah.. exactly! Haha I'm not that smart bro

Torquemada288 said:
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Stay off my lawn, you damn kids!
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That's about all I got out of it.

Samsung Note 9

I just heard that the Note 9 will not have the finger print scaner in the display? I know that this could be false. But looking at the S9 how is looks exactly like the S8 is horrible. They also say the Note9 will be smaller than the Note8. If this is the case I will be passing on the Note 9. I will not be pulled into what Apple has been doing for years. Make a different phone every year or I will pass!! I refuse to pay $900 dollars for the same phone. Just throwing this out there because what Samsung did with the S9 is sad. Sorry I put this in the wrong section

I'll be passing on the Note 9 regardless. I see no point in upgrading every year, especially how much phones costs now, changes are usually minimal. Same goes for Android versions. Everyone was so hyped about upgrading to Oreo from Nougat & for what? Plus being number "10" there should be many things worth waiting for, so I hope.

No matter what, I am going to wait for the note 10, for me, the note 8 is a really fine device, a real improvement over the note 7, which I also have, so, I will wait for the note 10

I had my Note 4 more than 3 years, I will not upgrade my Note 8 for the next 3 years for sure - hello "Note 11"
The display is at maximum already, increasing the resolution or making it brighter is pointless for me. CPU will be fine for the next 3 years. The camera is ok for a smartphone, I don't think they will/can increase the quality by a lot in the future - it's simply limited because of the physics. The only thing that will degrade in the future is the non-replaceable battery, too bad we can't replace it.

I will probably keep my Note 8 N950N for a while until it starts to fail. The only reason I uograded to the Note 8 is because I couldn't get any reception on my Note 4 N910C.

I'm about to snatch up a Note 4 in 2018!!! ?

shouren04 said:
I'll be passing on the Note 9 regardless. I see no point in upgrading every year, especially how much phones costs now, changes are usually minimal. Same goes for Android versions. Everyone was so hyped about upgrading to Oreo from Nougat & for what? Plus being number "10" there should be many things worth waiting for, so I hope.
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You are 100% right with Oreo. I couldn't wait then I got it and it was nothing. Hope the Note9 looks different enough to put down almost a grand?

I too will pass on the Note9. But I'm worried that the Note10 will leave the 3.5mm jack.

NIKKOTUASON said:
I too will pass on the Note9. But I'm worried that the Note10 will leave the 3.5mm jack.
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Bluetooth headphones are getting better and better unless you're that picky and want wires hanging from your ears. Honestly to me when I see people with wired headphones I think of people using cassette tapes. It's a old technology and soon it will be gone. But everyone has their own preference. Have you tried out some new Bluetooth headphones lately? If not give them a try it might change your mind.

Ya I've tried a few Sony WH-1000XM2, Sennheiser Momentum Wireless and AKG N60NC. Their okay. They're lacking in soundstage, separation, detailed mid-range (voices) and imaging. I still find that my 8 year old Shure SE535 bests those 3 wireless headphones by a lot. Though it is paired with a Oppo HA-2SE.
I have to admit that wires do get annoying especially when taking them out of your pocket. I'd gladly replace all my IEMs and headphones with one wireless that excels at those five categories. If anyone can recommend please do so.
Thanks

some of the newer "jack free" phones give you an adapter, so you can still plug in your wired headsets..I assume this will be the way most OEMS handle this for the next few years..

For the first time, I have fully settled into not upgrading.. From the leaks (I take them with a grain of salt), nothing exciting. And like others mentioned, the new features, really are these days, nothing that special. And then, we all know updates are poor terrible.. The only thing that kind of made me excited, was the talk of a larger battery..
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MatroxD said:
For the first time, I have fully settled into not upgrading.. From the leaks (I take them with a grain of salt), nothing exciting. And like others mentioned, the new features, really are these days, nothing that special. And then, we all know updates are poor terrible.. The only thing that kind of made me excited, was the talk of a larger battery..
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Agreed with this but I doubt the Note 9 Large Battery would solve any thing.
The S9 Plus has 3500 Mah Battery (200 More than the Note 8) and it lasts for 4 - 4:30 Hours of SOT at Max brightness , just as Much as the Note 8. People thought the S9 Plus would have better battery but It lasts just as much if not less. The screen PPI Consumed that 200 Mah.
Also The Note 9 Will have more PPI (Pixel Per Inch) Than the Note 8. I doubt any one would care, but the Battery life will be Also consumed through it.
So Don't expect much from the battery. Maybe 30 Minutes more than the Note 8 at its best.
Also Crown UX and S Pen features Will come to the Note 8 Through Android P.
There is barley any thing to talk about in The Note 9, No doubt it will be better than the Note 8 but like 10% , Not really worth it if you wait another year for the Note 10 or Android P.

jason504 said:
Bluetooth headphones are getting better and better unless you're that picky and want wires hanging from your ears. Honestly to me when I see people with wired headphones I think of people using cassette tapes. It's a old technology and soon it will be gone. But everyone has their own preference. Have you tried out some new Bluetooth headphones lately? If not give them a try it might change your mind.
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While wireless headphones are nice for a gym workout or a run around the block, without a dedicated connector, you can't charge your phone and listen to music with wired headphones at the same time. I have found that wireless headphones don't usually last through the many hours needed when traveling long distance ie. Intercontinental flights. A few hours of waiting at an airport prior to flight, plus add to that 7+ hours in-flight will not last most wireless headphones out there. You'll be without music way before you get there. This would not be a problem with a wired headset since you can charge phone in plane as you listen to music endlessly. Those of us who travel frequently know this rather well. Also, having to constantly recharge your wireless set can be a pain. I have run out of charge in the middle of a nice workout, something which would never happen with a wired headset.
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I'll upgrade if the Note 9 has a 6.5" screen. And the blood pressure monitor.
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I will also pass the Note 9 this year, i'm pretty sure the Note 10 next year will be the real upgrade for the Note 8, since it will be the 10th Anniversary for the Galaxy S line, so the Note 10 will get all that or even more.

Dean-xXx said:
I will also pass the Note 9 this year, i'm pretty sure the Note 10 next year will be the real upgrade for the Note 8, since it will be the 10th Anniversary for the Galaxy S line, so the Note 10 will get all that or even more.
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This is what I'm hoping for, something special for the 10 year phones. Maybe they will use a revolutionary flat display!

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This is what I'm hoping for, something special for the 10 year phones. Maybe they will use a revolutionary flat display!
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Propably expect 4k screen finger print on display (or foldable Note phone that transforms into a tablrt
, now that would be terrific).
Thats more worth a grand than the Note 9

I really would not like a foldable screen, it will not be cristal, but a very scratch-prone plastic one!

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I really would not like a foldable screen, it will not be cristal, but a very scratch-prone plastic one!
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Yep. Especially first generation model.
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Battery for S10 vs S10+?

Hello,
Just curious from people that may have tested both. How does the battery compare between the two? I just ordered the S10 but am second guessing due to the size of the battery in the Plus. The smaller pixel the battery is trash compared to the XL. Was wondering if the same is the case for the S10 vs the S10+
Thanks

sruel3216 said:
Hello,
Just curious from people that may have tested both. How does the battery compare between the two? I just ordered the S10 but am second guessing due to the size of the battery in the Plus. The smaller pixel the battery is trash compared to the XL. Was wondering if the same is the case for the S10 vs the S10+
Thanks
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I think it is going to be a little more than try, return and upgrade to compare the difference. Hopefully someone has tried both through multiple charging cycles because that's what it takes for a battery to settle in.

Tel864 said:
I think it is going to be a little more than try, return and upgrade to compare the difference. Hopefully someone has tried both through multiple charging cycles because that's what it takes for a battery to settle in.
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Yeah I'll probably try the s10 for a week then decide. All the reviews I've watched are on the S10+. Not many reviewing the S10.
I'm hoping the S10 has decent battery. Had the note and 6t. It's been a while since I've had a smaller phone. I want to try.

sruel3216 said:
Yeah I'll probably try the s10 for a week then decide. All the reviews I've watched are on the S10+. Not many reviewing the S10.
I'm hoping the S10 has decent battery. Had the note and 6t. It's been a while since I've had a smaller phone. I want to try.
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I ordered the S10 hoping I would get at least what I got on the S9. Every now and then I don't make it through a day with the S9 but I mostly do. I'm hoping with the slightly larger battery in the S10 vs the S9 I may see a little improvement. The S10e is the size phone I wanted and has the flat screen, but the smaller battery drove me away from it.

I haven't compared but right now I'd say the batterife on my plus is not as good as I was hoping. I've had it since March 6th and it's been worse than my Note 9 and way worse than my Huawei Mate 20 pro. I hope it gets better with time. My pixel 3 was horrid for the first week or so but improved dramatically soon after

chetly968 said:
I haven't compared but right now I'd say the batterife on my plus is not as good as I was hoping. I've had it since March 6th and it's been worse than my Note 9 and way worse than my Huawei Mate 20 pro. I hope it gets better with time. My pixel 3 was horrid for the first week or so but improved dramatically soon after
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Any updates? Just got it and it's only 5 hours screen on time, waaaay worse than my POCOPHONE. Is there any difference after a while? Thanks

I'm not impressed at all with my S10+
Way worse than I expected

Here is mine, been on battery for over 24 hours with AOD on from 7am to 1am. 2 sim cards in the phone. On WiFi mainly. Browsing forums and watching YouTube vanced dark mode, Samsung browser on dark mode most of the time. I think mines not too shabby, ive seen someone get 15 hours, don't know how. As long as I can get through a day with the battery I'm ok.
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johnkabou said:
I'm not impressed at all with my S10+
Way worse than I expected
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What was so disappointing about the 4100 mah battery?

ArunRocker said:
What was so disappointing about the 4100 mah battery?
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5 hours SOT? I've seen tests over 8. And my Poco has 8+ hours. I was expecting at least the same

Content with my S10+ SD - stil selling it, but otherwise no complaints. I use bluetooth (Galaxy Buds) regularly for calls and music. This was a lighter day for me. Owned the phone since launch.
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I average about 4.5 SOT with 17-19 hours up ok my SD S10.
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Any updates? Just got it and it's only 5 hours screen on time, waaaay worse than my POCOPHONE. Is there any difference after a while? Thanks
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Unfortunately I ended up returning my s10. Battery life was never that great and I was impressed with the phone over the Note 9. Think I'm just gonna wait for the Note 10 at this point.