I'm thinking about picking up a used Note 3 to use on my AT&T account. Is there any reason to get an AT&T branded note over T-Mobile branded?
I can SIM unlock the T-Mobile, but would have to deal with locked bootloaders with AT&T. All the supported bands are there using the T-Mobile on AT&T, right?
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I used the T-Mobile Note 3 for a while. I unlocked it using Chanfire's app. When using my AT&T sim card in it, I found the LTE to be horrible, despite supporting band 17 (700mhz) In places where I had average LTE on the iPhone, the TMO N3 would be on H+ or have the worst LTE signal. This was frustrating. I took it back. It was fun to flash roms and kernels though.
I got an awesome deal on a new AT&T note 3 where I couldn't pass it up haha. At first I noticed my AT&T LTE signal was not as good as it should be. I then created a thread about it. I cleared the cache in my phone and did a full factory reset. Now my LTE seems fine. Constantly sitting on -93db on my desk where my iPhone gets the same.
I'm pretty happy now with my AT&T Note 3. Rooting was so easy and gives me everything a custom rom would.
Yep, the LTE (band 17) on my N900T is horrible. My neighbor has N900A and we compared them side by side (with punching *#0011# and monitoring signal on both devices) and my N900T was always showing signal that was ~15db lower than the N900A. Gonna sell it. Will wait for Xperia Z2.
I agree completely with Matt and bormasina.
I just sold my N900T and bought a N900A and have noticed a dramatic improving, specifically in LTE bandwidth.
Hands down, the AT&T version performs better on an AT&T network. Go figure.
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Yeah. Is it a coincidence that the ATT version perms better on the network it designed for? I'm sure ATT optimizes their signals in their phones for the proper frequencies.
I'm actually sitting in a place where my N900T would sit on a -105dbm signal and right now my N900A has been locked on a solid -89dbm. Night and day difference.
Go with the At&T version. The T-Mobile version is fine though if your on their network. But AWS still does suck in general when it comes to signal strength.
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please continue this here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466099
If you use your t-mobile note 4 on AT&T, do me a favor and tell me if your data goes to HSPA+ while on a call. Mine is switching from LTE to HSPA+ anytime I am on a call...
holycow1 said:
If you use your t-mobile note 4 on AT&T, do me a favor and tell me if your data goes to HSPA+ while on a call. Mine is switching from LTE to HSPA+ anytime I am on a call...
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Yeah its supposed to do that.
It's supposed to switch from LTE to HSPA+?? My note 3 never did that.
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It's supposed to switch from LTE to HSPA+?? My note 3 never did that.
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I remember reading somewhere it's supposed to happen because it shows the real connection. Then again I could've misread but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to
Funny my note 3 prior to volte upgrade would show hspa when making calls but after update its like my note 4. Shows LTE symbol also when making calls.
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I just got the phone on Monday. With the original ROM and after taking several OTA updates, my LTE signal strength at home and at work was horrible. I'd get around -120 dBm and it would frequently change to HSPA and even EVDO.
One thing that I noticed is that on LTE, it was using band 4, which is 2100 MHz. On my Note 2, it always used band 14, which is 700 MHz. The lower frequency penetrates buildings better and gave me a better signal at work and home (not great, but useable).
I just updated to the latest T-Mobile ROM from the developer site. The LTE signal strength is a bit better at -116 dBm and so far, it isn't changing to HSPA or worse. However, it is still using band 4.
Does anyone know why my old phone used band 14 and this new phone uses band 4? I would think that the phone would use whichever band gave it the best signal, which would certainly be band 14. Is there any way to force this?
Thanks.
I didn't look up the Note 2's specs but I'd guess it didn't have band 4. What are you using to see your band? OpenSignal?
Powell730 said:
I didn't look up the Note 2's specs but I'd guess it didn't have band 4. What are you using to see your band? OpenSignal?
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I just looked up the specs on Wikipedia. It says that the T-Mobile version uses band 17, but I know that the phone said band 14 before I swapped SIMs.
Wikipedia says the Nexus 6 uses bands 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 25 / 26 / 29 / 41.
This is from the T-Mobile Support site: "TMO uses bands 2 and 4 on LTE/4G & 3G". Also from Support: "LTE band 4(1700/2100), 17(700)". I'm not sure what to believe, or what is in use around here. Like I said above, I know that the Note 2 said it was using band 14.
On the Nexus 6, I'm using an app called LTE Discovery.
T mobile only uses band 2,4,12 for LTE. The note 2 doesn't support band 12. I never heard of band 14.
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mojoehand said:
I just looked up the specs on Wikipedia. It says that the T-Mobile version uses band 17, but I know that the phone said band 14 before I swapped SIMs.
Wikipedia says the Nexus 6 uses bands 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 25 / 26 / 29 / 41.
This is from the T-Mobile Support site: "TMO uses bands 2 and 4 on LTE/4G & 3G". Also from Support: "LTE band 4(1700/2100), 17(700)". I'm not sure what to believe, or what is in use around here. Like I said above, I know that the Note 2 said it was using band 14.
On the Nexus 6, I'm using an app called LTE Discovery.
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I'm by no means an expert when it comes to bands/frequencies, however, if the app told you the Note 2 was on band 14, I think it was lying to you. I'm pretty sure there isn't even a band 14 in the U.S., and almost positive T-Mobile does not run LTE on that band.
When (if) band 12 reaches your neighborhood receiption indoors should improve drastically. On band 4 I usually get -109 to -101 dBm. On band 12 I get around -89 to -94 dBm.
I have tried different ROMs and different radio modems. Nothing I do gets me a decent signal. Very occasionally I have had a moderately strong LTE signal, but even then, the download speed is only usable and the upload speed sucks.
The phone doesn't stay on LTE for long. It switched to HSPA and even EVDO most of the time. On HSPA, my old Note 2 got at least 2 Mb downloads. This N6 can't even get a kilobyte down on HSPA.
I don't know if it really affects things, but I read some comments that a bad SIM could possibly cause this. Is this true? If so, I'll drop by the T-Mobile store again and ask them to try another SIM.
I love the phone for the big screen and other features, but I really can't live with this lousy data connection. If I can't get this resolved, I'll have to return the N6 and buy another phone.
I might consider a Note 5 if I have to. It only has a 5.7 inch screen, but my Note 2 had a 5.5 incher. I don't really use the pen and the price premium is high, but I don't know what other phones have a 5.7-6 inch display, except for some Chinese phones. I don't know if they are any good, or if I could use them on T-Mobile.
Call me frustrated.
have you verified apn settings? mine needed a few changes. band 12 should be rolling out soon. i saw it for a day here in portland and service was amazing. can't wait!
nigelorion said:
have you verified apn settings? mine needed a few changes. band 12 should be rolling out soon. i saw it for a day here in portland and service was amazing. can't wait!
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Anyway to see where band 12 is going live?
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Powell730 said:
Anyway to see where band 12 is going live?
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not sure. saw a few people on reddit mentioning they had seen it in my area. i have been using an app called lte discovery to check what band i am on. 12 only popped up once and haven't seen it since.
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I have tried different ROMs and different radio modems. Nothing I do gets me a decent signal. Very occasionally I have had a moderately strong LTE signal, but even then, the download speed is only usable and the upload speed sucks.
The phone doesn't stay on LTE for long. It switched to HSPA and even EVDO most of the time. On HSPA, my old Note 2 got at least 2 Mb downloads. This N6 can't even get a kilobyte down on HSPA.
I don't know if it really affects things, but I read some comments that a bad SIM could possibly cause this. Is this true? If so, I'll drop by the T-Mobile store again and ask them to try another SIM.
I love the phone for the big screen and other features, but I really can't live with this lousy data connection. If I can't get this resolved, I'll have to return the N6 and buy another phone.
I might consider a Note 5 if I have to. It only has a 5.7 inch screen, but my Note 2 had a 5.5 incher. I don't really use the pen and the price premium is high, but I don't know what other phones have a 5.7-6 inch display, except for some Chinese phones. I don't know if they are any good, or if I could use them on T-Mobile.
Call me frustrated.
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Are you sure that you're on T-Mobile? EVDO is CDMA network and T-Mobile is GSM...
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BigDig said:
Are you sure that you're on T-Mobile? EVDO is CDMA network and T-Mobile is GSM...
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Yes, I am on T-Mobile. I meant Edge, not EVDO. Too many acronyms.
I just got home and even though the phone is currently showing three bars on LTE, the signal level is only -118 dBm, which isn't good. Speed test won't even do 1/2 Mb/s on download. This is pathetic.
As much as I otherwise like this phone, I can't live with this lousy signal issue. Unless someone knows of a fix, I will have to return the phone to Amazon. As I said, I have tried different ROMS and modems. I have also tried changing various settings that others have suggested (clearing cache, APN settings, etc.). I don't know what else to do.
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Yes, I am on T-Mobile. I meant Edge, not EVDO. Too many acronyms.
I just got home and even though the phone is currently showing three bars on LTE, the signal level is only -118 dBm, which isn't good. Speed test won't even do 1/2 Mb/s on download. This is pathetic.
As much as I otherwise like this phone, I can't live with this lousy signal issue. Unless someone knows of a fix, I will have to return the phone to Amazon. As I said, I have tried different ROMS and modems. I have also tried changing various settings that others have suggested (clearing cache, APN settings, etc.). I don't know what else to do.
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Have you tried calling tmobile and trouble shooting with them?
Andromendous said:
Have you tried calling tmobile and trouble shooting with them?
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Yes, I've been to the store.
mojoehand said:
Yes, I've been to the store.
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Call and speak to tech support. Most people in the store don't know what there doing.
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Yes, I've been to the store.
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Or chat with t force on twitter. I have had great success with them. They're awesome.
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Because of the choppy voice calls, as well as the lousy data connection, I am returning this phone and getting a Note 5. Although it is my personal phone, I also need a reliable phone for when I am on call at work.
I have spent all week on this and can't waste any more time. I need something that works. My Note 2 was reliable. I hope the Note 5 will be also.
Thanks to all for suggestions.
I too am having LTE data connection issues on LYZ28K. Anyone on LMY48M having data issues? I tried setting phone info to "LTE only", but that didn't help. I don't need wifi calling, so I'm wondering if I should switch to LMY48M?
I didn't see this brought up - if it has I apologize.
I have an International Unlocked N920I Note 5. Its on Metro PCS and works perfectly. Speeds over 100 MBPS sometimes.
My issue is this. Does an International Phone access more or better LTE Bands? I have tried to use a Nexus 6 and 6P on my service. Both work and get LTE, but speeds drastically slower. I have spent hours with tech support and always end up going back to the Note 5 which immediately works like a speed racer. Only thing I noticed is by default the other phone use Metro APNs and my Note uses epc.tmobile . But I have changed the setting to no avail.
Any ideas?
Well, I owned an iPhone 6 and it has better signals than my N920i on 4G.
cxhugh said:
Well, I owned an iPhone 6 and it has better signals than my N920i on 4G.
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So better phone - better signal capture I suppose?
Hello All,
I bought galaxy note 9 SM-960U1 (unlocked) from samsung.com . I am on Tmobile and have ahard time with LTE covrage. I was wondering what all LTE bands this model supports. I couldn't find clear information on it. It will be great if i can get information on LTE bands of this model and Tmobile as well.
Thanks
raj92xc said:
Hello All,
I bought galaxy note 9 SM-960U1 (unlocked) from samsung.com . I am on Tmobile and have ahard time with LTE covrage. I was wondering what all LTE bands this model supports. I couldn't find clear information on it. It will be great if i can get information on LTE bands of this model and Tmobile as well.
Thanks
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Go to Samsung dot com and under the U1 model click specifications. All radios and bands will be shown on manufactures website.
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raj92xc said:
Hello All,
I bought galaxy note 9 SM-960U1 (unlocked) from samsung.com . I am on Tmobile and have ahard time with LTE covrage. I was wondering what all LTE bands this model supports. I couldn't find clear information on it. It will be great if i can get information on LTE bands of this model and Tmobile as well.
Thanks
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It has all the bands required, including Band 71. However on the U1 Firmware I have had a hard getting to hold the signal. It will roam then drop a weak signal and you'll get a notification that you're no longer connected to the mobile network.
Flashing the U carrier firmware cures the problem, for me at least. The problem was worse for me on the unlocked Pie firmware than on Oreo.
Try this procedure
raj92xc said:
Hello All,
I bought galaxy note 9 SM-960U1 (unlocked) from samsung.com . I am on Tmobile and have ahard time with LTE covrage. I was wondering what all LTE bands this model supports. I couldn't find clear information on it. It will be great if i can get information on LTE bands of this model and Tmobile as well.
Thanks
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"Ok. Perhaps your Note 9 is preferring band 12 LTE which is slower and usually more congested if too many people are also connected to it. Your Note 5 may be preferring band 2 or 4 LTE hence an increase in speed. On your Note 9, go to the dialer and type *#0011# 6th line down from the top there should be a number next to "band" what is it? We can also try disabling band 12 by dialing *#2263#, to to LTE band preference > Next page > tap on LTE b12 to deselect it. tap the 3 dot menu button (upper right) tap "back" (repeat) until youi're at the main screen, "apply band configuration". Retest data speeds.
If this doesn't help, then you're likely experiencing congestion in your area. Re-enable band 12 by selecting "apply all bands" and apply."
I had similar issues and tried this and got faster internet speeds. I had to disable band 2. Got this procedure from the internet.