I've seen mutiple reports on xda and OP forums. I'm opening the new thread for those of us on vzw to discuss our issues with the recent firmwares.
I was using 9.0.7 without any issues. Upgraded to 9.0.11 and the phone has been acting up since last night. The signal bar was full for a few minutes and suddenly lost signal completely. From other threads, looks like 9.0.10 has the same issue.
This morning, I went into setting and renamed the SIM from Verizon to Verizon Wireless then I reboot the phone twice. Since then, the signal bar has been stable.
Can someone with similar issue rename the network and validate to confirm? I have another OP6T on 9.0.7 but I don't want to risk it.
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I'm using the Tmobile unlocked variant with Verizon and it's working fine. Other then the constant RTT calls converting it's been really good. I plan on converting it to the international model here when I get my unlock.bin
Dirty flashing 9.0.11 from Open Beta 2 caused me to lose VoLTE. Remedy was a clean flash of 9.0.11.
As in reboot to TWRP, factory wipe, flash full OTA, flash TWRP installer, reboot to TWRP, flash Magisk.
No more problems..
Just wondering if 9.0.11 requires that clean flash as it might update something that interacts with the data partition..
I have no issue with any firmware on Verizon. Went from .10 to .11 without issue also. Maybe that you came from beta that you had to wipe.
same, international on Verizon. .10 was fine, .11 is fine. haven't tried any of the open betas yet.
joemossjr said:
I'm using the Tmobile unlocked variant with Verizon and it's working fine. Other then the constant RTT calls converting it's been really good. I plan on converting it to the international model here when I get my unlock.bin
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Did unlocking and flashing to international solve the RTT issue? OnePlus blatantly refuses to fix this issue; I've been talking to them for 3 months now.
Hydroxic said:
Did unlocking and flashing to international solve the RTT issue? OnePlus blatantly refuses to fix this issue; I've been talking to them for 3 months now.
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Yes it did
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Yes it did
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You're a lifesaver, thank you.
Hydroxic said:
Did unlocking and flashing to international solve the RTT issue? OnePlus blatantly refuses to fix this issue; I've been talking to them for 3 months now.
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iI's not a OnePlus issue.
It's a T-Mobile ROM issue.
OnePlus can't fix it.
This issue does not exist in the international ROM.
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iI's not a OnePlus issue.
It's a T-Mobile ROM issue.
OnePlus can't fix it.
This issue does not exist in the international ROM.
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Lemme do a quick copy/paste since you want to follow me around the forum.
While I greatly appreciate the assistance of everyone here, this is silly (put nicely). No one bought a OnePlus 6T from T-Mobile to with the expectation that T-Mobile would be our device manufacturer or software developer. They are not and this is not the case for any other phone or phone company. OnePlus informed us that they would be the ones releasing the software which would simply need to be verified by T-Mobile, resulting in understandable, albeit advertised as minor, delays to OTAs. Furthermore OnePlus told me over a month ago that the next update would have this fixed. It did not, of course. If it were all up to T-Mobile, OnePlus would not have supposedly found the issue and issued a fix. Let's not get silly in defending OnePlus, please. Product advertised as X (working on Verizon network). Product not working as advertised (on Verizon network). Do not blame the consumer or anyone else aside from the product manufacturer. This is a simple equation. Thanks.
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Lemme do a quick copy/paste since you want to follow me around the forum.
While I greatly appreciate the assistance of everyone here, this is silly (put nicely). No one bought a OnePlus 6T from T-Mobile to with the expectation that T-Mobile would be our device manufacturer or software developer. They are not and this is not the case for any other phone or phone company. OnePlus informed us that they would be the ones releasing the software which would simply need to be verified by T-Mobile, resulting in understandable, albeit advertised as minor, delays to OTAs. Furthermore OnePlus told me over a month ago that the next update would have this fixed. It did not, of course. If it were all up to T-Mobile, OnePlus would not have supposedly found the issue and issued a fix. Let's not get silly in defending OnePlus, please. Product advertised as X (working on Verizon network). Product not working as advertised (on Verizon network). Do not blame the consumer or anyone else aside from the product manufacturer. This is a simple equation. Thanks.
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I'm not following you, I happen to read this forum and you posted the same thing in multiple places.
I read this thread because the title of the forum says flapping on Verizon. Technically you posted this in the wrong thread.
You are running the T-Mobile version with T-Mobile firmware and there is no expectation that it will run correctly on Verizon since it is running T-Mobile firmware. I doubt anyone at T-Mobile cares about Verizon compatibility.
Technically the device running T-Mobile firmware is not certified on Verizon.
So how is it the fault of OnePlus that a device certified for T-Mobile does not function correctly when they do not guarantee compatibility of the T-Mobile version on Verizon?
T-Mobile is the customer of OnePlus.
Individuals that bought from T-Mobile see a T-Mobile splash screen in the firmware.
If it doesn't work correctly you remedy is with T-Mobile and I'm sure they will say that they do not certify their firmware for other networks.
The issue is not in the international firmware; which is advertised and certified for Verizon.
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I'm not following you, I happen to read this forum and you posted the same thing in multiple places.
I read this thread because the title of the forum says flapping on Verizon. Technically you posted this in the wrong thread.
You are running the T-Mobile version with T-Mobile firmware and there is no expectation that it will run correctly on Verizon since it is running T-Mobile firmware. I doubt anyone at T-Mobile cares about Verizon compatibility.
Technically the device running T-Mobile firmware is not certified on Verizon.
So how is it the fault of OnePlus that a device certified for T-Mobile does not function correctly when they do not guarantee compatibility of the T-Mobile version on Verizon?
T-Mobile is the customer of OnePlus.
Individuals that bought from T-Mobile see a T-Mobile splash screen in the firmware.
If it doesn't work correctly you remedy is with T-Mobile and I'm sure they will say that they do not certify their firmware for other networks.
The issue is not in the international firmware; which is advertised and certified for Verizon.
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You're wrong my friend.
iPhone is (almost) universally compatible to all carriers for years. Putting a verizon sim in t-mobile Samsung S8/S9/Note change the phone's CSC and magically turns the phone into into verizon variant. Yep, even the phone's slash screen changes depend on the carrier of the sim inside the phone at the time. Phones should be designed that way. There's no excuse. Consumers with t-mobile unlocked 6T should be able to use their phone reliably on other carriers. This idea of OnePlus messing with the t-mobile variant's firmware to make it less compatible to Verizon is not OnePlus' fault is just non-sense.
I wouldn't buy the 6T if it's not compatible to both t-mobile and Verizon.
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You, miss the point of a branded vs fully unlocked phone.
The phone is a T-Mobile variant with T-Mobile firmware that is customized for specific features on T-Mobilr.
An example of this is the Pixel phones with a fully locked BL that you cannot change the firmware from Verizon. Phones that are carrier branded/exclusive may or may not be fully compatible on all carriers. Things like VVM may or may not work. Voice over WiFi may not work
Apple verifies compatibility on all carriers.
Samsung unlocked phones are compatible across the carriers they specify. The carrier specific phones may or may not work.
OnePlus and T-Mobile never sold the phone as compatible with all carriers. The T-Mobile variant has firmware specific to T-Moble, they even market the phone as different, as in only a single SIM active.
So I say once again, since T-Mobile, ultimately is reposible for testing and certification of the firmware, your issue is with T-Mobile. OnePlus does not send T-Mobile phones for Verizon certification. They send the unlocked version. It may even be a violation of their agreement to do so.
The T-Mobile version has firmware that disables features and it is specifically for T-Mobile.
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You're wrong my friend.
iPhone is (almost) universally compatible to all carriers for years. Putting a verizon sim in t-mobile Samsung S8/S9/Note change the phone's CSC and magically turns the phone into into verizon variant. Yep, even the phone's slash screen changes depend on the carrier of the sim inside the phone at the time. Phones should be designed that way. There's no excuse. Consumers with t-mobile unlocked 6T should be able to use their phone reliably on other carriers. This idea of OnePlus messing with the t-mobile variant's firmware to make it less compatible to Verizon is not OnePlus' fault is just non-sense.
I wouldn't buy the 6T if it's not compatible to both t-mobile and Verizon.
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Research before you buy. Best advise I can tell anyone. I've been burned before, but only cause I did not research before I bought. Take it as a life lesson. No one tricked you into buying something you didn't want....
tengtengvn said:
You're wrong my friend.
iPhone is (almost) universally compatible to all carriers for years. Putting a verizon sim in t-mobile Samsung S8/S9/Note change the phone's CSC and magically turns the phone into into verizon variant. Yep, even the phone's slash screen changes depend on the carrier of the sim inside the phone at the time. Phones should be designed that way. There's no excuse. Consumers with t-mobile unlocked 6T should be able to use their phone reliably on other carriers. This idea of OnePlus messing with the t-mobile variant's firmware to make it less compatible to Verizon is not OnePlus' fault is just non-sense.
I wouldn't buy the 6T if it's not compatible to both t-mobile and Verizon.
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No, you're wrong. Tech_head is right.
Oneplus and T-Mobile never advertised that T-Mobile version would be compatible with other carriers. You're applying the iSheep logic here. Just because iPhone does it, it doesn't mean Onplus 6T should.
I knew i would be glad i ponied up the extra coin instead of buying a tmob variant. That being said, the update to 9.0.10 totally borked my signal/data on Verizon. so i used msm tool to flash back to 9.0.7. when the .11 update came out and other *factory* unlocked verizon users confirmed it worked, i updated. when .12 came out, i updated without issue. i have no network issues. if you are on an unlocked direct from one plus version, flash back to the last firmware that worked.
if you are, in fact, on a Tmob version, while i can applaud the notion that all phones should be unlocked, it is a subsidized phone, and that is the tradeoff and how tmob keeps people from buying and running off to another carrier and why it was half the price of the unlocked one.
Verizon pulls the same nasty trick on many of their phones, but Block C rules make it a 90 day lock/trap...buying a phone from a carrier is always a trap, though. especially when its monthly payments, etc.
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I am trying to figure out if I should buy the GS6 from AT&T or buy a factory unlocked phone from GSM Nation: http://www.gsmnation.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-unlocked.html or Expansys: http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-smartphone-unlocked-32gb-black-275005/
From what I've been reading if I buy a carrier unlocked S6 I will for sure lose out on VOLTE and HDvoice but I dont get those things now with my Nexus 5 so I dont think I will miss them. The question on I have is am I missing anything? Is there anything else I need to take into consideration when buying unlocked vs at&t branded? Yes, I'm aware it will cost a little more and I wont get support from AT&T if something goes wrong with it but is there anything else I should know?
Well since the modem is probably the same across most North American / European / Australia varients hopefully the unlocked version is just packed with LTE bands!
It makes sense to buy it if you're buying it outright and your countries bands are included... Does anyone know the Bands / model name for the Unlocked ver?
jimmiekain said:
I am trying to figure out if I should buy the GS6 from AT&T or buy a factory unlocked phone from GSM Nation: http://www.gsmnation.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-unlocked.html or Expansys: http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-smartphone-unlocked-32gb-black-275005/
From what I've been reading if I buy a carrier unlocked S6 I will for sure lose out on VOLTE and HDvoice but I dont get those things now with my Nexus 5 so I dont think I will miss them. The question on I have is am I missing anything? Is there anything else I need to take into consideration when buying unlocked vs at&t branded? Yes, I'm aware it will cost a little more and I wont get support from AT&T if something goes wrong with it but is there anything else I should know?
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For what its worth, I'm buying the 32GB Verizon S6 that is already unlocked for $599. Its cheaper than the AT&T. I won't get LTE if I stick with Cricket (which use AT&T towers) but thats fine. HSPA is fine and I can switch to Verizon prepaid if I so desire. Just an option I would throw out there.
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Well since the modem is probably the same across most North American / European / Australia varients hopefully the unlocked version is just packed with LTE bands!
It makes sense to buy it if you're buying it outright and your countries bands are included... Does anyone know the Bands / model name for the Unlocked ver?
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For what its worth, I'm buying the 32GB Verizon S6 that is already unlocked for $599. Its cheaper than the AT&T. I won't get LTE if I stick with Cricket (which use AT&T towers) but thats fine. HSPA is fine and I can switch to Verizon prepaid if I so desire. Just an option I would throw out there.
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ahhh forget it, I think im just gonna have to bite the bullet and get the at&t one.
@alnova1 i thought about getting the verizon one too but my whole reason for not buying the att one is to avoid having to wait for updates and to get around all the carrier bloatware. If I get the verizon one I will miss out on LTE and I will have to wait for updates. Its a lose lose situation.
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yeah the unlocked one they sell at gsm nation will work on att.
Yeah but AT&T = Locked bootloader so no rooting etc. Have fun with that.
So I've been spoiled by the nexus 4/5 and haven't really paid attention to Samsung phones... If I got an S6 w/ an unlocked bootloader and rooted, would I still be able to use Samsung Pay (I've heard of something called Knox, i guess would rooting cause it to be tripped?)
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So I've been spoiled by the nexus 4/5 and haven't really paid attention to Samsung phones... If I got an S6 w/ an unlocked bootloader and rooted, would I still be able to use Samsung Pay (I've heard of something called Knox, i guess would rooting cause it to be tripped?)
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Good question. I forgot about Samsung pay. I definitely don't wanna those that. Gonna have to do more research.
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So I've been spoiled by the nexus 4/5 and haven't really paid attention to Samsung phones... If I got an S6 w/ an unlocked bootloader and rooted, would I still be able to use Samsung Pay (I've heard of something called Knox, i guess would rooting cause it to be tripped?)
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depending on the root method, the current root requires the unlock bl and will trip knox, which means you lose functionality of any features associated with knox...reason it trips knox is the way the SU binary is pushed to the phone is by temporarily injecting a recovery based on stock but with custom code if i recall.. you can google CF Auto to see how it works in detail.
Well crap. I was hoping one device would work across all carriers, like the Nexus 6 and iPhone 6 does. Oh well.
Do we know if the AT&T version is crippled in any way? Possible pain points:
Wireless charging limited to PMA only (AT&T has a history of pushing PMA at the expense of Qi)
Unremovable AT&T bloatware (AT&T Navigator, AT&T Family Map, AT&T Smart WiFi, etc)
Removal of certain software features (On my LG G3, it's missing a few minor features like Quick Tips for no discernable reason)
Locked bootloader (I actually assume this one is a given)
Of course we know it'll get slower software updates and still has the ugly AT&T logo on the back.
sturmen said:
Do we know if the AT&T version is crippled in any way? Possible pain points:
Wireless charging limited to PMA only (AT&T has a history of pushing PMA at the expense of Qi)
Unremovable AT&T bloatware (AT&T Navigator, AT&T Family Map, AT&T Smart WiFi, etc)
Removal of certain software features (On my LG G3, it's missing a few minor features like Quick Tips for no discernable reason)
Locked bootloader (I actually assume this one is a given)
Of course we know it'll get slower software updates and still has the ugly AT&T logo on the back.
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well the s6 is suppose to include support for both PMA and Qi, as far as the bloat, if its like the nexus lp release those bloatware apps are sim related and can be removed as they don't reside on the /system as for the locked BL i think everyone has pretty much assumed that it will be shipped locked.
sturmen said:
Do we know if the AT&T version is crippled in any way? Possible pain points:
Wireless charging limited to PMA only (AT&T has a history of pushing PMA at the expense of Qi)
Unremovable AT&T bloatware (AT&T Navigator, AT&T Family Map, AT&T Smart WiFi, etc)
Removal of certain software features (On my LG G3, it's missing a few minor features like Quick Tips for no discernable reason)
Locked bootloader (I actually assume this one is a given)
Of course we know it'll get slower software updates and still has the ugly AT&T logo on the back.
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I have no idea about the pma or qi wireless charging. I dont think they would mess with it but it wouldn't surprise me.
I assume we'll have to root to get rid of all the bloat.
I hope they dont remove features but as we know, they got rid of download booster on the GS5 so again, this wouldn't surprise me.
I too assume the boot loader will be locked but so was the GS5 and there are ways around it.
good questions, a lot to think about. I almost wanna just say ahhh forget it and just the att branded one to make sure I get HD Voice and VoLte but then every time I look at my wifes GS5 on AT&T and see that shes still got Kitkat I so NOPE!!!
Locked bootloader?
Shoot i guess i have been spoiled by the nexus :/ I jumped on the hype and bought a s6 (preordered really) because my n5 was getting old and the metal band and the curved display. Still kindof frightened of how it would look when watching a movie, bad experience with gamma curve on note 1 for the att note. I look forward to flash cm 12.1 on the edge and develop some apps or xposed modules to use that sexy edge
Yes.
I have my first ever factory unlocked phone and first Samsung phone ever
Galaxy Alpha 850M on MetroPCS/Tmobile Network.
It is a sleek phone, great Audio, no lag and has ALL the Bands for Tmobile( even 1700 UMTS not listed in it's specs).
BUT- the phone is NOT software optimized for Metro/Tmobile so no
VoLTE- which we have had on Metro since 2012 .
So make a call and instantly you lose LTE and drop to 3G and sometimes the
" hand off " back to LTE after the call takes a minute or so...
Sometimes Data is interrupted temporarily when on Internet and I get a call though I have voice and Data almost all the time.
These are not things I was warned about on Articles about BYOD.
I have no problems with Texts , MMS, Multiple Email Accounts and different Notifications for them all though- that is very good-often people have some problems , glitches with unlocked phones.
Because VoLTE is becoming more common it may eventually become more universal but we are not there yet so even an advanced phone like Alpha and probably S6 needs specific Carrier Software to enable the VoLTE for the specific Carrier.
So you won't stay on LTE during Calls .
Not sure if the Band switching wastes energy or not- the Battery is going to be the Achilles Heel on S6 IMO for heavy users- .
So that's the problem IMO with Factory Unlocked Phones- I also suspect the Software Optimized and precisely Band Optimized Carrier Devices are faster with better reception generally than similar Model Factory Unlocked Devices but no proof and it's probably complicated....lol.
I'm also on the fence about getting an AT&T Version of the S6 or not. Having a locked bootloader could be a deal breaker and from the last 2 Galaxy Units they had it should be locked too. Until someone gets a unit and lets us know, we'll be in limbo until then. I currently have a AT&T HTC M8, unlocked, s-off, the works, and i can pretty much do anything to this phone. I do keep my phone close to stock, but all the bloat removed and option to flash any type of ROM is a big plus.
Hopefully we can get a definitive answer on the Bootloader asap.
We me I just want to know if I buy the S6 from Verizon to use on At&t will Verizon be able to track my Porn website cookies even if I'm on At&t?
dligon said:
We me I just want to know if I buy the S6 from Verizon to use on At&t will Verizon be able to track my Porn website cookies even if I'm on At&t?
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Too funny.
This is why I love forums.
dligon said:
We me I just want to know if I buy the S6 from Verizon to use on At&t will Verizon be able to track my Porn website cookies even if I'm on At&t?
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So I have discovered at least 4 companies we can buy an unlocked S6 from in the US. Handtec, clove, expansys-usa, and gsmnation.
I ended up placing a pre-order from handtec.co.uk. Total came to $737 including shipping for a regular S6 32GB. Don't forget to add / request the Samsung activation / region unlock if you order from handtec or clove. Expansys and gsmnation should handle that for you even if you don't request it I think.
I just can't deal with the AT&T version. So glad my device will have no carrier bloat and get updates much sooner than the AT&T version.
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So I have discovered at least 4 companies we can buy an unlocked S6 from in the US. Handtec, clove, expansys-usa, and gsmnation.
I ended up placing a pre-order from handtec.co.uk. Total came to $737 including shipping for a regular S6 32GB. Don't forget to add / request the Samsung activation / region unlock if you order from handtec or clove. Expansys and gsmnation should handle that for you even if you don't request it I think.
I just can't deal with the AT&T version. So glad my device will have no carrier bloat and get updates much sooner than the AT&T version.
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Thanks for more options! I've been corresponding with the fine folks at GSMNation, and they don't seem to be understanding what I'm asking.
I'm curious about what model I will be getting. Will it be the Vodaphone version? I want to know so I can determine how long I'll be waiting for updates. T-Mo wasn't the worst, and I have been able to do a lot with it.
Last year I brought my T-Mobile S5 to AT&T...I'm wondering if I can just go buy one at T-Mobile, but activate it on AT&T. Unlocking shouldn't be an issue. Whatever I do, I must be able to root that beast!:laugh:
gtg465x said:
So I have discovered at least 4 companies we can buy an unlocked S6 from in the US. Handtec, clove, expansys-usa, and gsmnation.
I ended up placing a pre-order from handtec.co.uk. Total came to $737 including shipping for a regular S6 32GB. Don't forget to add / request the Samsung activation / region unlock if you order from handtec or clove. Expansys and gsmnation should handle that for you even if you don't request it I think.
I just can't deal with the AT&T version. So glad my device will have no carrier bloat and get updates much sooner than the AT&T version.
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Which AT&T bands does the phone support?
I purchased one brand new on eBay and was wondering whether it a playstore, T-Mobile, Verizon, or Sprint n6.
I don't think it matters with the Nexus 6. I do believe the units sold through the carriers were unlocked.
One way to tell if it was a carrier phone is to try and use an MSL unlock code. By default it should be all "0", however; if you bought it from a carrier like I did it will be an actual code.
I think carrier matters, although the phone is unlocked and you'll be able to use it on supported networks however you may potentially face issues in OTAs. Just my opinion because I am currently having some problems updating my unrooted & non modified N6, using it another region but not getting any updates.
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I think carrier matters, although the phone is unlocked and you'll be able to use it on supported networks however you may potentially face issues in OTAs. Just my opinion because I am currently having some problems updating my unrooted & non modified N6, using it another region but not getting any updates.
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Carrier doesn't matter on Nexus devices except for the SPC/MSL code which is 000000 on unlocked devices.
I am also in Pakistan, there are tons of 'smuggled' XT1103's here, some with Verizon logos and some without. In fact, there are even some with T-Mobile SIM cards still inserted. Anyhow, once you flash a factory image with the new stock recovery, you should get OTA updates as any other Nexus 6.
During the Android 5.1 era, the Nexus 6 had specified builds for those on Project Fi or T-Mobile, in your thread I noticed you were running on LYZ28N which is the build used for T-Mobile ONLY as specified on the Factory Images page. You won't get an OTA unless you're in the USA with a T-Mobile SIM Card.
Flash the latest unified builds of Android 6.0.1, the latest being MMB29X for the Nexus 6, it includes the latest security patch (2nd Apr 2016).
Here's the link for it, it's approx 1GB.
> LINK
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I don't think it matters with the Nexus 6. I do believe the units sold through the carriers were unlocked.
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AT&T models were sim-locked.
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ahmedmateen said:
I think carrier matters, although the phone is unlocked and you'll be able to use it on supported networks however you may potentially face issues in OTAs. Just my opinion because I am currently having some problems updating my unrooted & non modified N6, using it another region but not getting any updates.
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What ota the phone gets is determined by the installed sim card, AT&T blocked Marshmallow for a while, T-mo got some different Wi-fi calling builds, and verizon at one point had specific Vo-LTE builds.
Far as I know at this point with the monthly builds everything's consolidated.
murtaza02 said:
Carrier doesn't matter on Nexus devices except for the SPC/MSL code which is 000000 on unlocked devices.
I am also in Pakistan, there are tons of 'smuggled' XT1103's here, some with Verizon logos and some without. In fact, there are even some with T-Mobile SIM cards still inserted. Anyhow, once you flash a factory image with the new stock recovery, you should get OTA updates as any other Nexus 6.
During the Android 5.1 era, the Nexus 6 had specified builds for those on Project Fi or T-Mobile, in your thread I noticed you were running on LYZ28N which is the build used for T-Mobile ONLY as specified on the Factory Images page. You won't get an OTA unless you're in the USA with a T-Mobile SIM Card.
Flash the latest unified builds of Android 6.0.1, the latest being MMB29X for the Nexus 6, it includes the latest security patch (2nd Apr 2016).
Here's the link for it, it's approx 1GB.
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So once I flash my N6 to MMB29X, I'll be getting OTAs like other N6 and wont have to flash/side load any update again?
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So once I flash my N6 to MMB29X, I'll be getting OTAs like other N6 and wont have to flash/side load any update again?
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Yes. That's exactly what will happen.
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This is what i get when creating a shortcut using apex laumcher, activities/hiddenmenis. Does this mean that i got a sprint device? Look at the path of the hiddenmeni targets.
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Not necessarily.
However to confirm, check the first 2-3 digits of your IMEI.
If it's 99, then probably Sprint or Verizon, though the latter would have a logo on the back.
If it's 35 or 01, then it's either AT&T, T-Mobile or a Play Store model.
I have an app called VZWAPN on my phone and there's no way it can even be a Verizon device since it's a UK XT1100 Model.
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My only concern is getting a subsidized device with an unpaid balance that could potentially be blacklisted if original owner decides to leave sprint, tmob, att or vrz withoit paying balance. Thanks for the replies.
If you hadn't already purchased the phone off ebay, I would have told you to go to Swappa instead, as they don't permit the kind of shenanigans you find with ebay and Craigslist purchases, namely selling the phone while payments are still owed, not making any further payments, and leaving you with a phone that is blocked on the carrier.
Once you get the phone, go to Swappa and run its IMEI through their IMEI check tool. That should tell you if the IMEI is clean or not.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If you hadn't already purchased the phone off ebay, I would have told you to go to Swappa instead, as they don't permit the kind of shenanigans you find with ebay and Craigslist purchases, namely selling the phone while payments are still owed, not making any further payments, and leaving you with a phone that is blocked on the carrier.
Once you get the phone, go to Swappa and run its IMEI through their IMEI check tool. That should tell you if the IMEI is clean or not.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I ran a swappa check and it is clean. But this status may change, that is why the only safe option is the google playstore way. Have a great day!
I disagree with that sentiment. Swappa explicitly prohibits the scenario I describe. Should it happen Swappa will refund the money. Amazon is a perfectly viable option so long as you buy from Amazon and not a third party. Motorola themselves offered the device for sale on the Motorola website.
Point here is that while Google may be the safest route, there are other routes just as safe, if you do your homework.
AT&T and Verizon both have their logos on the back of the phone.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I disagree with that sentiment. Swappa explicitly prohibits the scenario I describe. Should it happen Swappa will refund the money. Amazon is a perfectly viable option so long as you buy from Amazon and not a third party. Motorola themselves offered the device for sale on the Motorola website.
Point here is that while Google may be the safest route, there are other routes just as safe, if you do your homework.
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yes, but the google after service is much better than anywhere else. seriously, its not even close. not like you can buy a n6 through google anymore though
Sure, but the OP's statement was that Google was the only safe method of getting the device, and that simply isn't true. In the case of the N6 I could have bought the device direct from Motorola, or direct from a carrier. I personally chose Amazon, because they had quantities of the device in their warehouse from Motorola when Motorola themselves didn't.
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Sure, but the OP's statement was that Google was the only safe method of getting the device, and that simply isn't true. In the case of the N6 I could have bought the device direct from Motorola, or direct from a carrier. I personally chose Amazon, because they had quantities of the device in their warehouse from Motorola when Motorola themselves didn't.
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to buy one, there's many "safe" places.
I just purchased a N6 and tried to install a Project Fi SIM into the device. Every time, I load in the ROM of the day, it does not see the SIM. Looking at the IMEI, I can deduce that this is a former AT&T phone. Since this is an issue of SIM locked, can the SIM be unlocked even though the firmware has been changed and the original AT&T SIM is long gone?
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I just purchased a N6 and tried to install a Project Fi SIM into the device. Every time, I load in the ROM of the day, it does not see the SIM. Looking at the IMEI, I can deduce that this is a former AT&T phone. Since this is an issue of SIM locked, can the SIM be unlocked even though the firmware has been changed and the original AT&T SIM is long gone?
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yes. but you will need either att's code or to purchase a sim unlock code for the device.
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yes. but you will need either att's code or to purchase a sim unlock code for the device.
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So in theory, I can go to my local AT&T store and since the phone is clean, they just give me a code? I am assuming that I just need to plug in the digits via the dialpad to unlock, correct?
Someone Local to me is selling a note 8. It's supposed to be unlocked. Will it work on Sprint or no?
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Someone Local to me is selling a note 8. It's supposed to be unlocked. Will it work on Sprint or no?
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Before I'd buy,I'd visit T-Mobile with the seller & phone in-hand,to ensure the phone is free & clear of any financial obligations.
Otherwise,you risk the possibility of it being blacklisted if any remaining balances are unpaid.
Not sure about compatibility,but,if the T-Mobile S8+ is any indication,it's only compatible with LTE,probably won't get voice/calls:
https://willmyphonework.net/
Regardless,with it being a new phone,you're in uncharted territory,no one can know for sure at this point,less a visit to Sprint & the mentioned visit to T-Mobile.
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Someone Local to me is selling a note 8. It's supposed to be unlocked. Will it work on Sprint or no?
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Unfortunately, probably not. Sprint is very strict with the phones it allows under it's BYOD program, it'll only allow activation of Sprint and Unlocked models. It knows when phones are carrier versions as Samsung provides Sprint with the IMEIs of the Sprint and Unlocked models.
Sprint is the only major carrier that still uses a database whitelist for phones that can be activated on their network. Bit of a **** policy, but there's not much you can do about it.
Source: Just tried the same thing with my T-Mobile S8+. Even when I flashed the unlocked firmware on it(something you'd need to do anyway to enable the CDMA radio on the Note8, T-Mobile firmware has it disabled), still wouldn't work. Found out it was because of Sprint's stupid policy.
Just wanted to chime in on this in the hopes that no one wastes their time and money trying to activate AT&T/T-Mobile branded Note 8's with Sprint.
Flashed my AT&T device with unlocked firmware to enable CDMA features (MEID HEX/DEC)
Bought a Sprint BYOD SIM
Gave Sprint technicians device information in an attempt to add it to their inventory (HEC/DEX)
They kept getting random incompatibility errors, kind of silly given all US Note 8's have identical hardware.
Case closed, looking for a Sprint or Samsung official unlocked device now..
Guys can you be kind enough to send me a link to a seller. I'm looking at buying my wife a note 9 for use on the USA CDMA network Sprint. Thanks. Best I've seen is this..
Question is, will it even work on Sprint? Meaning will Sprint even activate it?
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Guys can you be kind enough to send me a link to a seller. I'm looking at buying my wife a note 9 for use on the USA CDMA network Sprint. Thanks. Best I've seen is this..
Question is, will it even work on Sprint? Meaning will Sprint even activate it?
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those chinese 9600 are supposed to work plus they can be rooted too. get the Hong Kong one
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those chinese 9600 are supposed to work plus they can be rooted too. get the Hong Kong one
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Bruv , my issue is getting it
activated on Sprint. Yeah or nay,,?
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Bruv , my issue is getting it
activated on Sprint. Yeah or nay,,?
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if its unlocked then why not? let the n9600 users flock and confirm..
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Sprint is renowned for allowing certain devices on their Network.
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i see what u mean:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...e-cn-128gb-samsung-crown/sprint-united-states
sprints are evil.
run away and ditch 'em
and looks like cdma is NOT supported after all...huh
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if its unlocked then why not? let the n9600 users flock and confirm..
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Sprint is (not)renowned for allowing certain devices on their Network.
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Limeybastard said:
Sprint is renowned for allowing certain devices on their Network.
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edited my post. looks lime its a double nay
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edited my post. looks lime its a double nay
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Amen. Was supposed to write renowned for NOT allowing.
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You have to get the unlocked US variant N960U1. Works with all providers. I had mine with a T-Mon and now a Verizon sim. No problems on CDMA.
The international version will not work with Sprint or Verizon. I had once a international Note5 and had to buy a new phone.
Bestbuy is selling the N960U1
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So is there anyone using an 9600 on Sprint USA?
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Sprint will only allow certain USA unlocked phones on their network. Read the N9600 forums and you'll see that while some firmwares will work with Verizon, they're having a heck of a time finding a firmware that gives both an OEM unlock option and support for Verizon/Sprint bands.
Unless custom ROMs are a requirement, getting the N960U1 is the best you get on Sprint.
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So is there anyone using an 9600 on Sprint USA?
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Simple answer. No. Sprint or Verizon will NOT activate the IMEI of any international/Chinese smartphone. If the IMEI of the phone is not in the carrier's database it cannot be activated, A while back you could pop in your currently activated SIM into an international phone and it would work as long as you flash the appropriate firmware and use the proper APN's. But today this is not possible. The SIM and IMEI both must be activated with the CDMA carrier Sprint or Verizon. The Chinese/Hong Kong Snapdragon Samsung's DO support all of the U.S. carrier bands but neither Sprint or Verizon can or will activate the IMEI of those international phones. I've already gone through this battle and so has many other people. People who say that Sprint or Verizon activated their Chinese/Hong Kong S8, Note 8 or Note 9 are lying and trying to look like special... Trust me they are not. Unfortunately the only options are to either switch to a GSM carrier and that will open up your phone choices or buy a U.S. unlocked phone like was suggested above. Don't waste you money buying a Chinese galaxy phone because you won't get it activated on Sprint or Verizon. 100% guaranteed.
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Simple answer. No. Sprint or Verizon will NOT activate the IMEI of any international/Chinese smartphone. If the IMEI of the phone is not in the carrier's database it cannot be activated, A while back you could pop in your currently activated SIM into an international phone and it would work as long as you flash the appropriate firmware and use the proper APN's. But today this is not possible. The SIM and IMEI both must be activated with the CDMA carrier Sprint or Verizon. The Chinese/Hong Kong Snapdragon Samsung's DO support all of the U.S. carrier bands but neither Sprint or Verizon can or will activate the IMEI of those international phones. I've already gone through this battle and so has many other people. People who say that Sprint or Verizon activated their Chinese/Hong Kong S8, Note 8 or Note 9 are lying and trying to look like special... Trust me they are not. Unfortunately the only options are to either switch to a GSM carrier and that will open up your phone choices or buy a U.S. unlocked phone like was suggested above. Don't waste you money buying a Chinese galaxy phone because you won't get it activated on Sprint or Verizon. 100% guaranteed.
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Sprint and Verizon, they're a very fussy bunch of twats it would seem, ATT a close 2nd.
I remember, upgrading from a note 8 to a 9 was a choir compared to when I was with T-Mobile. I'll be setting aside another 30 or so mins to upgrades the wife's note 8 to a 9 when hers comes in on Tuesday, plus time and cost of new sim not included above.
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Simple answer. No. Sprint or Verizon will NOT activate the IMEI of any international/Chinese smartphone. If the IMEI of the phone is not in the carrier's database it cannot be activated, A while back you could pop in your currently activated SIM into an international phone and it would work as long as you flash the appropriate firmware and use the proper APN's. But today this is not possible. The SIM and IMEI both must be activated with the CDMA carrier Sprint or Verizon. The Chinese/Hong Kong Snapdragon Samsung's DO support all of the U.S. carrier bands but neither Sprint or Verizon can or will activate the IMEI of those international phones. I've already gone through this battle and so has many other people. People who say that Sprint or Verizon activated their Chinese/Hong Kong S8, Note 8 or Note 9 are lying and trying to look like special... Trust me they are not. Unfortunately the only options are to either switch to a GSM carrier and that will open up your phone choices or buy a U.S. unlocked phone like was suggested above. Don't waste you money buying a Chinese galaxy phone because you won't get it activated on Sprint or Verizon. 100% guaranteed.
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Wrong. I'm using an n9600 on Verizon. CDMA, lte works.
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Wrong. I'm using an n9600 on Verizon. CDMA, lte works.
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Your Chinese Note 9 is not activated on Verizon. The international IMEI cannot and will not activate on the Verizon network. Your sim card might be activated along with the IMEI of a different phone [simultaneously] but it's definitely not activated. And unless the IMEI is registered on the network, the phone will not connect to the network. Period. Run along.
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Your Chinese Note 9 is not activated on Verizon. The international IMEI cannot and will not activate on the Verizon network. Your sim card might be activated along with the IMEI of a different phone [simultaneously] but it's definitely not activated. And unless the IMEI is registered on the network, the phone will not connect to the network. Period. Run along.
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Ok, I will run along with my n9600 working on Verizon
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Ok, I will run along with my n9600 working on Verizon
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How about you provide a screenshot of your "About Phone" in settings and prove that your sim and IMEI are activated on Verizon. Include the "Status" section as well. This will prove it once and for all. I'd love to be proven wrong.
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How about you provide a screenshot of your "About Phone" in settings and prove that your sim and IMEI are activated on Verizon. Include the "Status" section as well. This will prove it once and for all. I'd love to be proven wrong.
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Run along troll. I really don't give a $hit you don't believe me.
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Run along troll. I really don't give a $hit you don't believe me.
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Like I said. You'd be the first and only person to get Verizon to activate an international Samsung S8, N9, S9 or N9. Prove your claim instead of getting angry.
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Like I said. You'd be the first and only person to get Verizon to activate an international Samsung S8, N9, S9 or N9. Prove your claim instead of getting angry.
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It's his character, he's always a little angry but lovable.
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Like I said. You'd be the first and only person to get Verizon to activate an international Samsung S8, N9, S9 or N9. Prove your claim instead of getting angry.
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It's his character, he's always a little angry but lovable.
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Because I dont like being called a liar. @elevatorguy can back me up. I just got his hk n9600 working fully on vzw.
I want to get a v40 to replace my Redmi Note 7
I use T-Mobile but know not to get the T-Mobile v40. So I was curious if it would be better for me to get a different one and unlock it or what should I do?
Any advice would be great because I don't want to put my self in a pickle where I have a nice paperweight
No need to get a TMo version.
A cross flashed Sprint V405UA to LG v405QA will work on TMo and get all TMo bands, plus TMo VoLTE and TMo VoWi-FI and TMo HD Voice. I know because that's the model I bought, cross flashed, and use on TMo.
I see no reason why a cross flashed Verizon or ATT wouldn't be equally good. But I can't speak there from personal experience.
But there's no cross-flashing possible on a TMo version. Once TMo, always TMo.
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No need to get a TMo version.
A cross flashed Sprint V405UA to LG v405QA will work on TMo and get all TMo bands, plus TMo VoLTE and TMo VoWi-FI and TMo HD Voice. I know because that's the model I bought, cross flashed, and use on TMo.
I see no reason why a cross flashed Verizon or ATT wouldn't be equally good. But I can't speak there from personal experience.
But there's no cross-flashing possible on a TMo version. Once TMo, always TMo.
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I saw you in some other posts and I was hoping to get you to respond to this. Thank you. I'll have to keep my eye out to see if I can find a sprint one. I like my redmi note 7, but there are many features that I want that it just simply doesn't have. But are there any other weird quirks I should know? Again, thank you.
Thanks for kind words. I seem to have a bit more time on my hands now ... I wonder why ....
The only weird quirks I think are worth mentioning is that it is not easy to root and install TWRP. Several have had issues doing so. It can be done, I and others are living proof, but it's not for the fainthearted. You'll have to bounce back and forth between several threads to get it right. There's no one comprehensive guide. If you're not looking to go that route, there really are no quirks.
As for sourcing one, I picked up mine, a mint condition device, off of eBay for $145. A steal for a phone of this caliber. They seemed to have upped the price in the meantime.
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Troubles with getting TWRP working don't bother me. I don't mind that. I love messing with things a little too much. Also, with that link that you sent, although the listing said you can't use third party software to unlock it, you still can. Correct? (Well the listing you sent said that it was sprint only, but not specifically unlocked. But it showed me a similar one that is $170 that says it's sprint locked)(also that because it technically isn't software that you're using to unlock the device.)
And I do wonder why you would have more free time on your hand, I could never tell why...
In many cases, these eBay vendors have no idea what they are selling or what "tethers" come with which phones. See here's the thing. If the device is paid off, it can't/shouldn't be carrier locked. You own it free and clear, and should be able to put it on any carrier with which the phone is compatible.
From reading these forums, I knew I could convert (cross-flash) a v405UA (Sprint) device over to a v405QA (US version) which would enable more bands (that I needed/wanted for my eventual migration to TMo). And if the device in that listing was somehow actually carrier locked to Sprint, I knew I could get Sprint to unlock it. I had Sprint, I knew I was going to use the v40 for a while on Sprint, so I could easily verify its carrier unlocked-ness, and could correct it if needed.
But I didn't need to. The v405ua (which was originally attached to Sprint at some time in the past by a different customer) came to me carrier unlocked. Three weeks later, I had that same device, crossflashed, rooted, with TWRP, on TMo happily making use of the extra TMo bands, VoLTE and VoWi-Fi, and HDVoice (none of which a non-crossflashed v405UA could).
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Ok, so if it isn't paid off then the seller is selling a bad phone, and they should list that in the description.
I'll buy the $170 mint condition v40 because it's a good price for the phone, and I'll have something to mess with. Thank you, again. I appreciate all the help.
It'll be nice to have a nicer phone again. I loved my S8 before I broke the screen, and after I had modded it.
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In many cases, these eBay vendors have no idea what they are selling or what "tethers" come with which phones. See here's the thing. If the device is paid off, it can't/shouldn't be carrier locked. You own it free and clear, and should be able to put it on any carrier with which the phone is compatible.
From reading these forums, I knew I could convert (cross-flash) a v405UA (Sprint) device over to a v405QA (US version) which would enable more bands (that I needed/wanted for my eventual migration to TMo). And if the device in that listing was somehow actually carrier locked to Sprint, I knew I could get Sprint to unlock it. I had Sprint, I knew I was going to use the v40 for a while on Sprint, so I could easily verify its carrier unlocked-ness, and could correct it if needed.
But I didn't need to. The v405ua (which was originally attached to Sprint at some time in the past by a different customer) came to me carrier unlocked. Three weeks later, I had that same device, crossflashed, rooted, with TWRP, on TMo happily making use of the extra TMo bands, VoLTE and VoWi-Fi, and HDVoice (none of which a non-crossflashed v405UA could).
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I got my v40 yesterday and have been trying to mod it today. I have my t-mobile sim working in it but I can't get twrp working for the life of me.
Have any tips?
NoburtM said:
I got my v40 yesterday and have been trying to mod it today. I have my t-mobile sim working in it but I can't get twrp working for the life of me.
Have any tips?
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I have gotten twrp working along with being able to install linageos
Only issue is that it asks for a password and I don't know what to do from here. I need to sleep.... I've been at this for far too long
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I have gotten twrp working along with being able to install linageos
Only issue is that it asks for a password and I don't know what to do from here. I need to sleep.... I've been at this for far too long
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Took me like 3 minutes of reading. After wiping data it is fixed. That was easy