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[Q] No Contract Moto X - Will it work in India?

Hi everyone,
I’m planning to buy a Motorola Moto X phone from US through the official Moto Maker site.
At checkout, I would still need to choose a carrier. I'm planning to choose one of the GSM providers (AT&T or T-Mobile) with the ‘No contract’ option.
As far as I know, the phone would still be locked to the carrier chosen. So, does that mean that the phone will be unusable outside of the US?
I spoke to a couple of Motorola agents and I got contrasting views-
One of them said, the phone would be locked to the opted carrier in the US. But elsewhere the phone could be used with any GSM sim.
The other agent said, the phone will not be usable with any SIM apart from the opted carrier, till the phone is unlocked using an unlock subsidy code obtained from the carrier.
So, what is this about Locked and No Contract phones? Also I read in the AT&T's and T-Mo's site that they would provide a unlock code after 60 and 40 days respectively.
And, any processes to be followed before taking it out of US to use with a local carrier in other countries? Like Activation etc.,
Any suggestions or thoughts would be of great help. Thanks!

sriv.droid said:
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to buy a Motorola Moto X phone from US through the official Moto Maker site.
At checkout, I would still need to choose a carrier. I'm planning to choose one of the GSM providers (AT&T or T-Mobile) with the ‘No contract’ option.
As far as I know, the phone would still be locked to the carrier chosen. So, does that mean that the phone will be unusable outside of the US?
I spoke to a couple of Motorola agents and I got contrasting views-
One of them said, the phone would be locked to the opted carrier in the US. But elsewhere the phone could be used with any GSM sim.
The other agent said, the phone will not be usable with any SIM apart from the opted carrier, till the phone is unlocked using an unlock subsidy code obtained from the carrier.
So, what is this about Locked and No Contract phones? Also I read in the AT&T's and T-Mo's site that they would provide a unlock code after 60 and 40 days respectively.
And, any processes to be followed before taking it out of US to use with a local carrier in other countries? Like Activation etc.,
Any suggestions or thoughts would be of great help. Thanks!
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ok... so this is the deal with an AT&T Motox X off contract. It will still be carrier locked out of the box. I talked to AT&T and they said that in order to unlock it there has to be a least 60 days of AT&T service on the phone.... i think its ridiculous...!!
was planning to buy it and bring it to Germany... but wont work out of the box...

I think TMobile version is carrier unlocked.

jzsax1 said:
ok... so this is the deal with an AT&T Motox X off contract. It will still be carrier locked out of the box. I talked to AT&T and they said that in order to unlock it there has to be a least 60 days of AT&T service on the phone.... i think its ridiculous...!!
was planning to buy it and bring it to Germany... but wont work out of the box...
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Hmm.. Seems so! I too feel it is ridiculous. What if someone from US buys it and ends up going abroad for a vacation more than 40 days. How do they keep the service active?

sriv.droid said:
Hmm.. Seems so! I too feel it is ridiculous. What if someone from US buys it and ends up going abroad for a vacation more than 40 days. How do they keep the service active?
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The T-Mobile version is carrier unlocked. I may be getting the Moto X from the US but primarily will use it in India for the immediate future.

DrZen said:
The T-Mobile version is carrier unlocked. I may be getting the Moto X from the US but primarily will use it in India for the immediate future.
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Thanks for the info.
Is any activation required with the T-Mo sim before it can be used elsewhere? Or can the phone be directly used out of the box?

sriv.droid said:
Thanks for the info.
Is any activation required with the T-Mo sim before it can be used elsewhere? Or can the phone be directly used out of the box?
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No activation, straight up unlocked.
EDIT: In the event that I'm wrong, it's easy enough to unlock via a code for not much cash.

DrZen said:
No activation, straight up unlocked.
EDIT: In the event that I'm wrong, it's easy enough to unlock via a code for not much cash.
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Thanks! Hope it works that way

Help!!
I have received my MotoX with a T-Mo SIM.
The device indicated that a an OS update is available. But 'm not able to update it over WiFi.
Should the device be ACTIVATED with T-Mo SIM?

Repair/Service in India
sriv.droid said:
Thanks! Hope it works that way
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Do you know if I take an unlocked Moto X bought from the US (via the Motorola Maker Website) to India, will I be able to get service in India, or do I need to bring it back to the US if I have any issues?
I'm worried about such things as broken screen, repairs, battery replacement, etc...
Any help you or anyone could give regarding this would be greatly appreciated.

Moto X help needed
Hey guys.. I'm planning to get a Moto X, but in India we dont have the option for the 32 Gb variant and neither do we get the Moto Maker... Does anyone have any info regarding whther these features would be available in the future, and that i could wait for it? Or is it better to get it shipped from the US via a friend/cousin??

Hello everyone,
As you all know there was a sale just for one day on Moto X over in US, I ordered the 32gb version for myself. As I am in India and will be using this phone here, on the choose a carrier page i selected: GSM Unlocked (includes T-Mobile Sim) option.
My question is: Will this phone support the Indian Sim? Also does this phone support LTE? And which version (AT&T or T-Mobile) will I get as below GSM Unlocked, it`s written AT&T and T-Mobile 4G LTE with Global HSPA?
Which one is better in terms of future software updates?
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Verizon IMEI

Is anyone trying to get their Nexus 6 that was purchased somewhere else into the Verizon database? As I understand it you cannot install HD voice calling unless it is recognized in their database. Does anyone know anything about this and has anyone tried to get Verizon to add it in their Nexus 6?

dalegg said:
Is anyone trying to get their Nexus 6 that was purchased somewhere else into the Verizon database? As I understand it you cannot install HD voice calling unless it is recognized in their database. Does anyone know anything about this and has anyone tried to get Verizon to add it in their Nexus 6?
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Never contact verizon to get it to work I have hd calling on my device and it works. I currently my device to be removed from the white list. They filled a form out. I should hear by sunday

Just add it to your account and you are fine.
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I suppose it would be nice to have a real verizon device in the database but it's not super important to me.
Sent from my Nexus 6

dalegg said:
Is anyone trying to get their Nexus 6 that was purchased somewhere else into the Verizon database? As I understand it you cannot install HD voice calling unless it is recognized in their database. Does anyone know anything about this and has anyone tried to get Verizon to add it in their Nexus 6?
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Working fine here. I'd rather Verizon NOT know what I am running! :good:

dalegg said:
Is anyone trying to get their Nexus 6 that was purchased somewhere else into the Verizon database? As I understand it you cannot install HD voice calling unless it is recognized in their database. Does anyone know anything about this and has anyone tried to get Verizon to add it in their Nexus 6?
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According to Verizon Tier 2 tech support and a ticket they put in on my behalf, non-Verizon nexus 6 devices won't be allowed in their database because of a claimed lack of security of the devices that don't have their firmware/software. The ticket was intended to add my device to their database and was denied. I have my phone working again because of a particularly helpful member of their tier 2 support team last night, but it isn't properly recognized and the connection is somewhat flaky. I was told I'd have to return my motorola device (which isn't possible due to return policy) and buy one from Verizon for it to work. <--Not happening unless they give me the Verizon phone for free and leave me month to month. Motorola device protection is much better anyway.
Be careful calling them with the device should you choose to. Mine was flagged immediately after/ during a call to resolve a billing dispute.
I suppose it's possible this will all be fixed when the store launch of the Nexus 6 is complete.
I'm looking for possible real solutions myself...

That's the thing with Verizon and nexus devices. They have complete control over what is allowed on their network. Main reason cdma nexus are few and far between. Not a whole lot you can do really. It is their call.

I was using a Sprint Nexus until VZ released theirs. I was able to add the HD calling on my account but at the time it did no good because it was rocking 5.0. As far as it looked on paper my non VZ device would've worked had it had the option to allow it on the phone which 5.1 does. YMMV..

chuckbax said:
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I'm looking for possible real solutions myself...
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A solution to what? Putting a non Verizon device on the Verizon database? If so. Why?
Sent from my Nexus 6

DebianDog said:
A solution to what? Putting a non Verizon device on the Verizon database? If so. Why?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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According to tier 2 tech support the phone won't properly activate if the imei isn't in their database.

chuckbax said:
According to tier 2 tech support the phone won't properly activate if the imei isn't in their database.
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Thats why you use a secondary device to activate the sim then put sim in nexus

the_rooter said:
Thats why you use a secondary device to activate the sim then put sim in nexus
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That worked the first time just fine. Now tech support has to do something on their end to make it work that way. luckily the last person I spoke with from tech support was willing to do that for me.

chuckbax said:
That worked the first time just fine. Now tech support has to do something on their end to make it work that way. luckily the last person I spoke with from tech support was willing to do that for me.
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Please explain

the_rooter said:
Please explain
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I received my N6 02/19 from Motorola and activated it with the cut microsim from my GS3. The phone worked fine until 03/16 when I called *611 with a billing problem. Immediately following that phone call my phone was no longer activated. It brought up the "Please log into network" message. Since the phone was available from Verizon at that point I thought (silly me) that they would be able to just activate it. It's a Nexus, why should it matter where it came from? They tried activating it over the phone and it wouldn't work. I suspect on the call with customer service they picked up the problem and it kicked the phone. I spoke with Motorola, Google, and Verzion multiple times trying to correct the issue. Verizon tech support was aware all along. One party submitted a support ticket to add my IMEI to their database and that request was denied because of some crap about "security" with the non verizon version. I got that information in a voicemail, so I called back to demand a solution since the phone worked. That tier 2 support person was more saavy that the others I had spoken with and forced the activation. I tried all the troubleshooting steps anyone had to offer and none of them worked. The phone doesn't show up on our account even if you look online. I really just want the phone to work and not have to fuss with changing carriers, because I will if I have to. That threat didn't seem to phase them. The only measure I haven't tried is a fresh sim.

chuckbax said:
I received my N6 02/19 from Motorola and activated it with the cut microsim from my GS3. The phone worked fine until 03/16 when I called *611 with a billing problem. Immediately following that phone call my phone was no longer activated. It brought up the "Please log into network" message. Since the phone was available from Verizon at that point I thought (silly me) that they would be able to just activate it. It's a Nexus, why should it matter where it came from? They tried activating it over the phone and it wouldn't work. I suspect on the call with customer service they picked up the problem and it kicked the phone. I spoke with Motorola, Google, and Verzion multiple times trying to correct the issue. Verizon tech support was aware all along. One party submitted a support ticket to add my IMEI to their database and that request was denied because of some crap about "security" with the non verizon version. I got that information in a voicemail, so I called back to demand a solution since the phone worked. That tier 2 support person was more saavy that the others I had spoken with and forced the activation. I tried all the troubleshooting steps anyone had to offer and none of them worked. The phone doesn't show up on our account even if you look online. I really just want the phone to work and not have to fuss with changing carriers, because I will if I have to. That threat didn't seem to phase them. The only measure I haven't tried is a fresh sim.
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Did u make any changes to account when u called for billing information?

chuckbax said:
According to tier 2 tech support the phone won't properly activate if the imei isn't in their database.
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I think you are being BS'ed . I received my Nexus 6 about a month ago took it to the Verizon store they stuck in a SIM card and activated it.
Sent from my Nexus 6

the_rooter said:
Did u make any changes to account when u called for billing information?
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Yes, they screwed up our account when I added international voice and data for a four day trip to Canada.

chuckbax said:
Yes, they screwed up our account when I added international voice and data for a four day trip to Canada.
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Your going to need a new sim. What is going to happen is if u have a unreconignzed device on your verizon account and u make changes like data/calling it wont reconignze the device. Take ur g3 in get a new sim, cut that down and then put it in the nexus and it will work. never make changes to verizon account with unreconignzed device. U need to have a verizon brand phone to make changes and then swap the sim back over.

chuckbax said:
Yes, they screwed up our account when I added international voice and data for a four day trip to Canada.
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Tell them to give you a new Nexus and they can have your old one. Problem solved.
Sent from my Nexus 6

DebianDog said:
Tell them to give you a new Nexus and they can have your old one. Problem solved.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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That wont solve anything but falling for verizons ploy. I doubt they do it anyways. He just needs a new sim

DebianDog said:
Tell them to give you a new Nexus and they can have your old one. Problem solved.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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I'm not so sure they'd be agreeable to that, but I'm open to it.

Truth of AT&T Software update - Galaxy S6 Active

Hi All
Last week I visited my company HQ in San jose.
And good news I can get a Galaxy S6 active with ATT GoPhone prepaid service.
When I stayed in USA, CA. I didn't expect Software update. Becuase, its very newly phone. I'm very satisfied Galaxy S6 active's overall performance.
But this is my big mistake.
When I came back to south korea, I noticed revised firmware are available in AT&T OTA(FOTA/Update) server.
See : http://www.att.com/esupport/softwareUpdateArticle.jsp?sid=KB426851&cv=820
So I decided OTA update then push "About phone - Software update "
But every time displayed as "Software interrupted" also reviewed adb logcat log, many error displayed by "CLIENT AUTH Error"
=> It seems FOTA server authenticate through ATT CIngular APN then if authenticate successful, Firmware file download via Wi-FI network.
I don't understand because i activated as AT&T Go Phone prepaid service, why I can't get and update AT&T Official OTA through ATT OTA server.
Thus I request my US colleague and he asked to ATT REP regarding this OTA problem.
Few minute ago my colleague forwarded ATT REP answer "they have no way to add an imei to update servers unless that device is active on the AT&T network."
If you get a software update via OTA oneshot, IMEI Registration and device is active on the AT&T network
[Preparaion for Software update via OTA]
Active AT&T Sim card
AT&T branded device (Galaxy S6 ATT or Galaxy S6 Active ATT or Galaxy S6 Edge ATT)
Wi-fi AP or hotspot.
Do you have another get a ATT OTA method without active ATT sim or account?
Or If you have successful OTA experience without active ATT sim or account,Please let us know.
Because, I hope to get a minor or major OTA in any oversea country.
Also I really really wouldn't understand AT&T Software's policy.
I have never seen this kind of OTA limitation is powerful Carrier in the UNIVERSE or COSMOS. It must be corrective by FCC.
For reference, Now VZW recent device get a latest FOTA update even NON-vzw sim and NON-vzw network.
I could update Verizon LG G3 device with NO SIM status in South korea.

Found ATT official announcement from ATT Official forum.
https://forums.att.com/t5/Android/G...-IF-YOU-RE-NOT-AN-AT-amp-T/m-p/4242325#M59143
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Pulverizer said:
I have never seen this kind of OTA limitation is powerful Carrier in the UNIVERSE or COSMOS. It must be corrective by FCC.
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There isn't a legal requirement for any software company to offer updates to software. So regulating the distribution methods and choices is probably out of the question.
Any improvements to the product are for your convenience. Yes, we have come to expect them but again, there is no obligation by the manufacturer to offer them at all.

This thread title needs to be changed to
" crying over an update I can't get"
If you want the update get on the main AT&T service...if no...then stop crying over it
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using XDA Free mobile app

Jesus, you do know your carrier will roll out their update as well eventually right? Phone wars continues my friend. Just like Xbox or ps4 will get exclusives or early release before the other console, it's all just part of the war for your money.
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MarineSSGT0629 said:
There isn't a legal requirement for any software company to offer updates to software. So regulating the distribution methods and choices is probably out of the question.
Any improvements to the product are for your convenience. Yes, we have come to expect them but again, there is no obligation by the manufacturer to offer them at all.
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Thank you for your suggestion. Please come to software update without Sim check or AT&T Account check.

Unhived__Mind said:
This thread title needs to be changed to
" crying over an update I can't get"
If you want the update get on the main AT&T service...if no...then stop crying over it
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using XDA Free mobile app
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Exactly what I want to do. I hope to crying.....

Pulverizer said:
Thank you for your suggestion. Please come to software update without Sim check or AT&T Account check.
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Just ATT Sim man
I tested it when I update to OF3. You just and have to need ATT sim card, no need ATT account
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MizuRyuu said:
Yah, seems like if you want OTA update, you must have an activated AT&T SIM card... Your best bet if you are in the US is to find a friend who has AT&T and borrow their SIM card so you can authenticate against the AT&T OTA server.
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******I have an inportant information.******
I have a friend in Vietnam, I and him got an S6A.
I bought an S6A in Bestbuy, paid off.
He bought and S6A in ATT shop, paid off too.
But
I can get the unlock code after 2 days request in ATT webs => The staff in bestbuy told me, I can get the code if I buy ATT device in best buy for Free.
He tried like me, but the system said no => I asked 3 customers service in ATT website before, all of them said I have to contract an ATT SIM for 2 months (minimum $45/month for SIM card) and I could get unlock code after that for "free" after paid at least $90 for them.
the Important thing is :
My S6A (bestbuy) Cannot get OTA update (unlock or non-unlock) if I dont have ATT SIM.
His S6A (ATT shop) Can get OTA update (unlock or non-unclock) without ATT SIM card and another carrier in used. (he can get OTA for OF3 and the newest OF4).
*Yesterday,he bought an unlock code in a Vietnam mobile phone shop and It was unlocked, now he can use the vietnam's carrier.
I will show you the screenshot of his phone after I go home.
Sorry about my English.

Hi there!
blessedsword said:
the Important thing is :
My S6A (bestbuy) Cannot get OTA update (unlock or non-unlock) if I dont have ATT SIM.
His S6A (ATT shop) Can get OTA update (unlock or non-unclock) without ATT SIM card and another carrier in used. (he can get OTA for OF3 and the newest OF4).
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Very good information, thank you for this!
Anyway any updates? Have you updated your (Bestbuy) phone?
Looks like the best way to buy S6A at ATT shop and unlock it at 3rd parties for $20-25 ?

iwannabuys6a said:
Hi there!
Very good information, thank you for this!
Anyway any updates? Have you updated your (Bestbuy) phone?
Looks like the best way to buy S6A at ATT shop and unlock it at 3rd parties for $20-25 ?
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Where do you live?
If you live in USA, you can active the ATT SIM card include the S6 Active's Box.
If you live in another country, I have no Idea for S6A which you buy in Bestbuy.
Follow the thread , I have a tip "how to active ATT sim for 26 days"

blessedsword said:
Where do you live?
If you live in USA, you can active the ATT SIM card include the S6 Active's Box.
If you live in another country, I have no Idea for S6A which you buy in Bestbuy.
Follow the thread , I have a tip "how to active ATT sim for 26 days"
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Thank you for reply! I want to purchase phone in USA (ATT or BestBuy) but I will use it in Finland with another GSM carrier. But according to the information above I would prefer to have any further software updates available for this phone.
Thanks!

iwannabuys6a said:
Thank you for reply! I want to purchase phone in USA (ATT or BestBuy) but I will use it in Finland with another GSM carrier. But according to the information above I would prefer to have any further software updates available for this phone.
Thanks!
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Ok, Let's buy in ATT shop. After bring you phone in Finland, buy an unlock code (~ $20 - $50).
Unlock the phone and use like an perfect phone ever. S6A can use full options of GSM, UMTS and LTE.
sorry my bad English.

Unlocking & Software Updates
Perhaps this is no longer an issue, but in regards to being able to update the software for your phone when not on the AT&T network,
doesn't the following post cover it?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...e/downloading-flashing-att-galaxy-s6-t3260744

Network flapping issue with Verizon Wireless

I've seen mutiple reports on xda and OP forums. I'm opening the new thread for those of us on vzw to discuss our issues with the recent firmwares.
I was using 9.0.7 without any issues. Upgraded to 9.0.11 and the phone has been acting up since last night. The signal bar was full for a few minutes and suddenly lost signal completely. From other threads, looks like 9.0.10 has the same issue.
This morning, I went into setting and renamed the SIM from Verizon to Verizon Wireless then I reboot the phone twice. Since then, the signal bar has been stable.
Can someone with similar issue rename the network and validate to confirm? I have another OP6T on 9.0.7 but I don't want to risk it.
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I'm using the Tmobile unlocked variant with Verizon and it's working fine. Other then the constant RTT calls converting it's been really good. I plan on converting it to the international model here when I get my unlock.bin

Dirty flashing 9.0.11 from Open Beta 2 caused me to lose VoLTE. Remedy was a clean flash of 9.0.11.
As in reboot to TWRP, factory wipe, flash full OTA, flash TWRP installer, reboot to TWRP, flash Magisk.
No more problems..
Just wondering if 9.0.11 requires that clean flash as it might update something that interacts with the data partition..

I have no issue with any firmware on Verizon. Went from .10 to .11 without issue also. Maybe that you came from beta that you had to wipe.

same, international on Verizon. .10 was fine, .11 is fine. haven't tried any of the open betas yet.

joemossjr said:
I'm using the Tmobile unlocked variant with Verizon and it's working fine. Other then the constant RTT calls converting it's been really good. I plan on converting it to the international model here when I get my unlock.bin
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Did unlocking and flashing to international solve the RTT issue? OnePlus blatantly refuses to fix this issue; I've been talking to them for 3 months now.

Hydroxic said:
Did unlocking and flashing to international solve the RTT issue? OnePlus blatantly refuses to fix this issue; I've been talking to them for 3 months now.
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Yes it did

joemossjr said:
Yes it did
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You're a lifesaver, thank you.

Hydroxic said:
Did unlocking and flashing to international solve the RTT issue? OnePlus blatantly refuses to fix this issue; I've been talking to them for 3 months now.
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iI's not a OnePlus issue.
It's a T-Mobile ROM issue.
OnePlus can't fix it.
This issue does not exist in the international ROM.

tech_head said:
iI's not a OnePlus issue.
It's a T-Mobile ROM issue.
OnePlus can't fix it.
This issue does not exist in the international ROM.
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Lemme do a quick copy/paste since you want to follow me around the forum.
While I greatly appreciate the assistance of everyone here, this is silly (put nicely). No one bought a OnePlus 6T from T-Mobile to with the expectation that T-Mobile would be our device manufacturer or software developer. They are not and this is not the case for any other phone or phone company. OnePlus informed us that they would be the ones releasing the software which would simply need to be verified by T-Mobile, resulting in understandable, albeit advertised as minor, delays to OTAs. Furthermore OnePlus told me over a month ago that the next update would have this fixed. It did not, of course. If it were all up to T-Mobile, OnePlus would not have supposedly found the issue and issued a fix. Let's not get silly in defending OnePlus, please. Product advertised as X (working on Verizon network). Product not working as advertised (on Verizon network). Do not blame the consumer or anyone else aside from the product manufacturer. This is a simple equation. Thanks.

Hydroxic said:
Lemme do a quick copy/paste since you want to follow me around the forum.
While I greatly appreciate the assistance of everyone here, this is silly (put nicely). No one bought a OnePlus 6T from T-Mobile to with the expectation that T-Mobile would be our device manufacturer or software developer. They are not and this is not the case for any other phone or phone company. OnePlus informed us that they would be the ones releasing the software which would simply need to be verified by T-Mobile, resulting in understandable, albeit advertised as minor, delays to OTAs. Furthermore OnePlus told me over a month ago that the next update would have this fixed. It did not, of course. If it were all up to T-Mobile, OnePlus would not have supposedly found the issue and issued a fix. Let's not get silly in defending OnePlus, please. Product advertised as X (working on Verizon network). Product not working as advertised (on Verizon network). Do not blame the consumer or anyone else aside from the product manufacturer. This is a simple equation. Thanks.
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I'm not following you, I happen to read this forum and you posted the same thing in multiple places.
I read this thread because the title of the forum says flapping on Verizon. Technically you posted this in the wrong thread.
You are running the T-Mobile version with T-Mobile firmware and there is no expectation that it will run correctly on Verizon since it is running T-Mobile firmware. I doubt anyone at T-Mobile cares about Verizon compatibility.
Technically the device running T-Mobile firmware is not certified on Verizon.
So how is it the fault of OnePlus that a device certified for T-Mobile does not function correctly when they do not guarantee compatibility of the T-Mobile version on Verizon?
T-Mobile is the customer of OnePlus.
Individuals that bought from T-Mobile see a T-Mobile splash screen in the firmware.
If it doesn't work correctly you remedy is with T-Mobile and I'm sure they will say that they do not certify their firmware for other networks.
The issue is not in the international firmware; which is advertised and certified for Verizon.

tech_head said:
I'm not following you, I happen to read this forum and you posted the same thing in multiple places.
I read this thread because the title of the forum says flapping on Verizon. Technically you posted this in the wrong thread.
You are running the T-Mobile version with T-Mobile firmware and there is no expectation that it will run correctly on Verizon since it is running T-Mobile firmware. I doubt anyone at T-Mobile cares about Verizon compatibility.
Technically the device running T-Mobile firmware is not certified on Verizon.
So how is it the fault of OnePlus that a device certified for T-Mobile does not function correctly when they do not guarantee compatibility of the T-Mobile version on Verizon?
T-Mobile is the customer of OnePlus.
Individuals that bought from T-Mobile see a T-Mobile splash screen in the firmware.
If it doesn't work correctly you remedy is with T-Mobile and I'm sure they will say that they do not certify their firmware for other networks.
The issue is not in the international firmware; which is advertised and certified for Verizon.
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You're wrong my friend.
iPhone is (almost) universally compatible to all carriers for years. Putting a verizon sim in t-mobile Samsung S8/S9/Note change the phone's CSC and magically turns the phone into into verizon variant. Yep, even the phone's slash screen changes depend on the carrier of the sim inside the phone at the time. Phones should be designed that way. There's no excuse. Consumers with t-mobile unlocked 6T should be able to use their phone reliably on other carriers. This idea of OnePlus messing with the t-mobile variant's firmware to make it less compatible to Verizon is not OnePlus' fault is just non-sense.
I wouldn't buy the 6T if it's not compatible to both t-mobile and Verizon.
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You, miss the point of a branded vs fully unlocked phone.
The phone is a T-Mobile variant with T-Mobile firmware that is customized for specific features on T-Mobilr.
An example of this is the Pixel phones with a fully locked BL that you cannot change the firmware from Verizon. Phones that are carrier branded/exclusive may or may not be fully compatible on all carriers. Things like VVM may or may not work. Voice over WiFi may not work
Apple verifies compatibility on all carriers.
Samsung unlocked phones are compatible across the carriers they specify. The carrier specific phones may or may not work.
OnePlus and T-Mobile never sold the phone as compatible with all carriers. The T-Mobile variant has firmware specific to T-Moble, they even market the phone as different, as in only a single SIM active.
So I say once again, since T-Mobile, ultimately is reposible for testing and certification of the firmware, your issue is with T-Mobile. OnePlus does not send T-Mobile phones for Verizon certification. They send the unlocked version. It may even be a violation of their agreement to do so.
The T-Mobile version has firmware that disables features and it is specifically for T-Mobile.

tengtengvn said:
You're wrong my friend.
iPhone is (almost) universally compatible to all carriers for years. Putting a verizon sim in t-mobile Samsung S8/S9/Note change the phone's CSC and magically turns the phone into into verizon variant. Yep, even the phone's slash screen changes depend on the carrier of the sim inside the phone at the time. Phones should be designed that way. There's no excuse. Consumers with t-mobile unlocked 6T should be able to use their phone reliably on other carriers. This idea of OnePlus messing with the t-mobile variant's firmware to make it less compatible to Verizon is not OnePlus' fault is just non-sense.
I wouldn't buy the 6T if it's not compatible to both t-mobile and Verizon.
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Research before you buy. Best advise I can tell anyone. I've been burned before, but only cause I did not research before I bought. Take it as a life lesson. No one tricked you into buying something you didn't want....

tengtengvn said:
You're wrong my friend.
iPhone is (almost) universally compatible to all carriers for years. Putting a verizon sim in t-mobile Samsung S8/S9/Note change the phone's CSC and magically turns the phone into into verizon variant. Yep, even the phone's slash screen changes depend on the carrier of the sim inside the phone at the time. Phones should be designed that way. There's no excuse. Consumers with t-mobile unlocked 6T should be able to use their phone reliably on other carriers. This idea of OnePlus messing with the t-mobile variant's firmware to make it less compatible to Verizon is not OnePlus' fault is just non-sense.
I wouldn't buy the 6T if it's not compatible to both t-mobile and Verizon.
Sent from my OnePlus 6T using Tapatalk
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No, you're wrong. Tech_head is right.
Oneplus and T-Mobile never advertised that T-Mobile version would be compatible with other carriers. You're applying the iSheep logic here. Just because iPhone does it, it doesn't mean Onplus 6T should.

I knew i would be glad i ponied up the extra coin instead of buying a tmob variant. That being said, the update to 9.0.10 totally borked my signal/data on Verizon. so i used msm tool to flash back to 9.0.7. when the .11 update came out and other *factory* unlocked verizon users confirmed it worked, i updated. when .12 came out, i updated without issue. i have no network issues. if you are on an unlocked direct from one plus version, flash back to the last firmware that worked.
if you are, in fact, on a Tmob version, while i can applaud the notion that all phones should be unlocked, it is a subsidized phone, and that is the tradeoff and how tmob keeps people from buying and running off to another carrier and why it was half the price of the unlocked one.
Verizon pulls the same nasty trick on many of their phones, but Block C rules make it a 90 day lock/trap...buying a phone from a carrier is always a trap, though. especially when its monthly payments, etc.

LG G8 AT&T SIM unlock?

I recently bought a brand new unit from the US and by the time I got it delivered the esn went bad therefore AT&T won't unlock it via their website. Tried a few websites and a few premium eBay listings but they can't generate unlock code. The phone asks for unlock code when non att card is inserted so all I need is the code. Spoke to a guy which is flashing roms though TeamViewer and he said it's impossible. I'm ready to donate a good amount for a valid unlock code.

skromnia said:
I recently bought a brand new unit from the US and by the time I got it delivered the esn went bad therefore AT&T won't unlock it via their website. Tried a few websites and a few premium eBay listings but they can't generate unlock code. The phone asks for unlock code when non att card is inserted so all I need is the code. Spoke to a guy which is flashing roms though TeamViewer and he said it's impossible. I'm ready to donate a good amount for a valid unlock code.
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Sorry, I don't know if an unlock code is available anywhere, but can you detail a bit more about that guy flashing roms? There's a lot of users with at&t devices here stuck on android 9, for whom that would be very useful. Again, sorry for not having an answer to your actual question

skromnia said:
I recently bought a brand new unit from the US and by the time I got it delivered the esn went bad therefore AT&T won't unlock it via their website. Tried a few websites and a few premium eBay listings but they can't generate unlock code. The phone asks for unlock code when non att card is inserted so all I need is the code. Spoke to a guy which is flashing roms though TeamViewer and he said it's impossible. I'm ready to donate a good amount for a valid unlock code.
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What do you mean the "ESN went bad"? That's...not a thing.
If your phone hasn't been on AT&T's service, it won't be registered with AT&T, which means you can't carrier unlock through them. I've seen services advertising unlock codes for the G8, but every time I ask about the AT&T version nobody replies. I don't think we can do it as of yet.
And yes I'm also on Android 9 and just waiting. I'm in Europe a lot, so I can't use my locked G8

TPMJB said:
What do you mean the "ESN went bad"? That's...not a thing.
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If somebody buys new phone on finance, sells it off on eBay and never pays it back they block the ESN/imei after 2-3 months. I think that's exactly what happened in my case as the phone was brand new sealed.

skromnia said:
If somebody buys new phone on finance, sells it off on eBay and never pays it back they block the ESN/imei after 2-3 months. I think that's exactly what happened in my case as the phone was brand new sealed.
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No, not really. The ESN gets blacklisted on that specific service, but it doesn't mean the ESN is bad. But if it's locked to the service, you're pretty boned. An ESN gets flagged as "banned" when someone stole the phone. Then you can't use it on any service.
Still if you bought a financed phone and were not aware, you are able to get your money back on eBay

TPMJB said:
No, not really. The ESN gets blacklisted on that specific service, but it doesn't mean the ESN is bad. But if it's locked to the service, you're pretty boned. An ESN gets flagged as "banned" when someone stole the phone. Then you can't use it on any service.
Still if you bought a financed phone and were not aware, you are able to get your money back on eBay
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I've already reached a settlement but that's not the point of this conversation. The point is to find an unlock code for a blacklisted at&t phone. Not being able to flash another firmware I understand, but when the phone asks for unlock code surely somebody must be able to provide it.

Maybe in another 6 months or so like V35/V40.
skromnia said:
I've already reached a settlement but that's not the point of this conversation. The point is to find an unlock code for a blacklisted at&t phone. Not being able to flash another firmware I understand, but when the phone asks for unlock code surely somebody must be able to provide it.
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skromnia said:
I've already reached a settlement but that's not the point of this conversation. The point is to find an unlock code for a blacklisted at&t phone. Not being able to flash another firmware I understand, but when the phone asks for unlock code surely somebody must be able to provide it.
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I've never had good luck with unlock codes m8. But like you I also have a SIM locked AT&T G8 and I'd like to be able to use it on multiple carriers.

TPMJB said:
I've never had good luck with unlock codes m8. But like you I also have a SIM locked AT&T G8 and I'd like to be able to use it on multiple carriers.
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I’m honestly about to give up, it’s not worth the stress and the PayPal disputes with websites and sellers. If here nobody can help than there’s no hope.

These unlock code services won't generate an unlock code for AT&T G8/V60 at all, even if they are 100% clean. The unlock codes are simply not available. It was the same for V35/V40, after about a year or so we were able to get unlock codes.

zeek6228 said:
These unlock code services won't generate an unlock code for AT&T G8/V60 at all, even if they are 100% clean. The unlock codes are simply not available. It was the same for V35/V40, after about a year or so we were able to get unlock codes.
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I understand but it’s been over an year for the G8 now and still not available. No bootloader unlock, no custom roms, basically no other way of unlocking it.

Yeah, not sure what AT&T’s deal is. It’s been a year and it’s still impossible to find unlock services for the G8. What a scummy company! Here in Canada all carriers have to provide free unlocking for phones after they’re paid off, and they need to sell unlocked phones to begin with now. Don’t know why the U.S. market sucks so much in this regard.
You know what’s worse? The only way to get updates on an LG G8 AT&T model is with an active AT&T SIM card... seriously, what the ****. Telcos are really squeezing consumers for all they’re worth in the USA

IS THERE STILL NO WAY TO UNLOCK?

I tried to use a heicard chip to unlock it , but it was destroyed when I put it on the chip tray , I put it on the chip tray it got stuck and when I took it off it was torn , I will have to buy another one to test
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Still not possible?

ClownWorld said:
Still not possible?
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1. Create a full backup (help).
2. Delete all partitions.
3. Restore all or the necessary partitions (help).
4. Rewrite IMEI (search for how to in my previous posts).
5. Rewrite NT-Code (through hidden menue on Korean A11).

netmsm said:
1. Create a full backup (help).
2. Delete all partitions.
3. Restore all or the necessary partitions (help).
4. Rewrite IMEI (search for how to in my previous posts).
5. Rewrite NT-Code (through hidden menue on Korean A11).
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My device is an unpaid contract AT&T locked bootloader with Android 9, outside US. So I don't think I can: upgrade to android 10 to then upgrade further, unlock bootloader + carrier, flash custom roms, correct?

ClownWorld said:
I don't think I can: upgrade to
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I think you can.

netmsm said:
I think you can.
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By doing the things you wrote here? But how would i delete all partitions if I don't have access to twrp due to the bootloader being locked? And Wouldn't I need android 10 to use the exploit to unlock the bootloader/install custom roms/upgrade to 11?

ClownWorld said:
By doing the things you wrote here? But how would i delete all partitions if I don't have access to twrp due to the bootloader being locked? And Wouldn't I need android 10 to use the exploit to unlock the bootloader/install custom roms/upgrade to 11?
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It seems you do not even have a rudimentary knowledge of the game so I recommend that you're better off finding someone who knows the ropes to do it for you.
However if you're willing to risk the phone being bricked so start with backing up by following the instructions here. Let me know when you're finished with creating backup then I'll tell you how to do the rest.
Edit: There's no chance to do sim unlock if the lock is IMEI depended by this I mean the IMEI is registered as a locked phone to ATT in the country's network.