Hi all i currently have a P20 Pro dual sim but i am bored with the current lack of roms etc and im think of selling and getting a Note 9.
Which is the best version (Snapdragon or Exynos) looks like Exynos after a quick look in the forum?
Buy a Snapdragon because he's a little bit faster and you will have better battery economy
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robboc180 said:
Hi all i currently have a P20 Pro dual sim but i am bored with the current lack of roms etc and im think of selling and getting a Note 9.
Which is the best version (Snapdragon or Exynos) looks like Exynos after a quick look in the forum?
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get the exynos because there is a wider range of roms.
( dont think the guy that replied before me realises that)
plus only the n9600 snaldragon has the ability to be rooted the n960u and 960w are useless in that regards.
the exynos n960f /ds and n960n are the prefered devices for people that enjoy root.
bober10113 said:
get the exynos because there is a wider range of roms.
( dont think the guy that replied before me realises that)
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Yeah i did see that, im looking to unlock the bootloader & root and load custom roms.
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Yeah i did see that, im looking to unlock the bootloader & root and load custom roms.
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ive added more details on device models to my org. reply
EXynos works a treat! Flash happy ?
Exynos all way long!! and enjoy the real meaning of freedom
bober10113 said:
get the exynos because there is a wider range of roms.
( dont think the guy that replied before me realises that)
plus only the n9600 snaldragon has the ability to be rooted the n960u and 960w are useless in that regards.
the exynos n960f /ds and n960n are the prefered devices for people that enjoy root.
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Hi,
I'm researching for a new phone.
I this good for rooting: Samsung Galaxy Note 9 128GB N960 Duos Blue, ARM Mali G72, Samsung Exynos 9810
melchiar said:
Hi,
I'm researching for a new phone.
I this good for rooting: Samsung Galaxy Note 9 128GB N960 Duos Blue, ARM Mali G72, Samsung Exynos 9810
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yes
Have them both P20 pro & Note 9
I'm not that interested in Unlocking or installing roms on these devices .
I have the P20 Pro 6gb/128gb in use for some months now and last week i bought the Note 9 8gb/512gb Exynos.
When i compare these 2 phones they are both verry good phones i can get used to using any of these as a daily driver .
The only thing that makes me a littlebit worry is the camera .
In my opinion the P20 pro takes better shots but the Note 9 takes better video ..
For now i'l keep them both .
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robboc180 said:
Hi all i currently have a P20 Pro dual sim but i am bored with the current lack of roms etc and im think of selling and getting a Note 9.
Which is the best version (Snapdragon or Exynos) looks like Exynos after a quick look in the forum?
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diquan2001 said:
I'm not that interested in Unlocking or installing roms on these devices .
I have the P20 Pro 6gb/128gb in use for some months now and last week i bought the Note 9 8gb/512gb Exynos.
When i compare these 2 phones they are both verry good phones i can get used to using any of these as a daily driver .
The only thing that makes me a littlebit worry is the camera .
In my opinion the P20 pro takes better shots but the Note 9 takes better video ..
For now i'l keep them both .
Here are some sample pics.
Samsung :
P20 pro :
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what mode was the n9 camere on?
Get the n9600. It is simply the faster phone.
The exynos may have more custom roms to choose from but since they're all based off stock, they're all pretty much the same. You really need only one rom with one dedicated developer and we have that with @Mentalmuso and WETA rom.
Airtioteclint said:
Get the n9600. It is simply the faster phone.
The exynos may have more custom roms to choose from but since they're all based off stock, they're all pretty much the same. You really need only one rom with one dedicated developer and we have that with @Mentalmuso and WETA rom.
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yes he's a great dev no doubt.
but you forgot that AOSP/gsi roms exist... they are clearly not based off of stock...
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what mode was the n9 camere on?
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Both phones were on auto mode.
Just point shoot situation.
bober10113 said:
yes he's a great dev no doubt.
but you forgot that AOSP/gsi roms exist... they are clearly not based off of stock...
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I didn't forget them. All aosp roms are pretty much the same these days too. I just upgraded from the Zuk Z2 plus and we had about 10 pie roms to choose from. All great, but you can pretty much close your eyes and choose one and be good.
As for gsi I've never used it but i understand it to be pure android? If so no thanks. Why would anybody flash that and give up all the features of the note 9? I guess that goes for aosp based roms too. It only made sense on stock boring android but never on Samsung. The loss far outweighs the gains.
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I didn't forget them. All aosp roms are pretty much the same these days too. I just upgraded from the Zuk Z2 plus and we had about 10 pie roms to choose from. All great, but you can pretty much close your eyes and choose one and be good.
As for gsi I've never used it but i understand it to be pure android? If so no thanks. Why would anybody flash that and give up all the features of the note 9? I guess that goes for aosp based roms too. It only made sense on stock boring android but never on Samsung. The loss far outweighs the gains.
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the goal of rooting always was about choice..so selecting the device that can give you the wider range of choice would make sense in my opinion....
It's also worth noting that the Exynos version has a slightly better DAC compared to Snapdragon. Good to know if you want quality sound out of it.
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It's also worth noting that the Exynos version has a slightly better DAC compared to Snapdragon. Good to know if you want quality sound out of it.
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Excellent point as we all use our phones for music, be it bluetooth or headphones.
robboc180 said:
Hi all i currently have a P20 Pro dual sim but i am bored with the current lack of roms etc and im think of selling and getting a Note 9.
Which is the best version (Snapdragon or Exynos) looks like Exynos after a quick look in the forum?
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Firstly, the note 9 dev section is actually quite lonely - only one kernel, few ROMs and that's all. Secondly, the snapdragon variant is A LOT better vs the exynos in every regard - better battery life, faster CPU in real world, ~30% faster GPU on average, smoother UI (less frame drops), faster emulation on emulators. It's the better variant to get by far.
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Excellent point as we all use our phones for music, be it bluetooth or headphones.
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This is not that true anymore, qualcomm really improved their own DAC in the last two generations. There are enough materials on the web about exynos 9810 - go read Andrei's articles (anandtech) how to improve exynos 9810 (part 1 and part 2). Also his article with direct comparison between the two note 9 variants in real world/real tests not antutu etc. - the snapdragon note 9 makes a joke of the exynos versions. The difference is like high tier midrange device vs the highest tier device. It's not even close and buying the midrange device just because you have two more ROMs that are the same (flashing AOSP on note is absurd as you will give up all the features, you are better of with s9, BUT even then there are compromises like camera quality/features) - is a mistake. Yes, I have the exynos note 9 and while OK, I perfectly well understand and see how mediocre the SOC is, even the sd 835 beats it in some cases and it shows in real world usage.
I am saying all that with warmth of heart towards fellow xda member that can choose between the two variants.
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Firstly, the note 9 dev section is actually quite lonely - only one kernel, few ROMs and that's all. Secondly, the snapdragon variant is A LOT better vs the exynos in every regard - better battery life, faster CPU in real world, ~30% faster GPU on average, smoother UI (less frame drops), faster emulation on emulators. It's the better variant to get by far.
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This is not that true anymore, qualcomm really improved their own DAC in the last two generations. There are enough materials on the web about exynos 9810 - go read Andrei's articles (anandtech) how to improve exynos 9810 (part 1 and part 2). Also his article with direct comparison between the two note 9 variants in real world/real tests not antutu etc. - the snapdragon note 9 makes a joke of the exynos versions. The difference is like high tier midrange device vs the highest tier device. It's not even close and buying the midrange device just because you have two more ROMs that are the same (flashing AOSP on note is absurd as you will give up all the features, you are better of with s9, BUT even then there are compromises like camera quality/features) - is a mistake. Yes, I have the exynos note 9 and while OK, I perfectly well understand and see how mediocre the SOC is, even the sd 835 beats it in some cases and it shows in real world usage.
I am saying all that with warmth of heart towards fellow xda member that can choose between the two variants.
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I know right. Choosing an inferior variant solely because it has more of the same rom to flash is beyond crazy. I guess it's true you can only lead a horse to water.
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I know this is the Mi Mix forum and there'll be an obvious bias but I'd like to get some opinions.
I got a Huawei P10 as a gift and I'm very impressed by EMUI despite what the detractors say. As a Redmi Note 3 owner I also like MIUI a lot (once I changed that horrible launcher). It also begs the question as to who copied who in terms of functionality and customizations. Let's just say they're equal but EMUI just edges it for me.
Given that the Mix2 and Mate 10 will both be near bezel-less with excellent battery life (by reputation), which one would you get? Pros and cons of each and why? No custom roms or modding. Both stock.
It depends what you're looking for.
The Mate 10 will definitely have one of the best cameras (2 ISPs, a first for smartphones), it will also have a separate AI unit.
Kirin 970 will have 3 Cortex A73 cores - definitely no slouch in terms of performance.
BUT, Huawei is known for not having developer-friendly devices, in contrast to Xiaomi. Especially if you're looking at recovery options.
The fastboot images guarantee a restore from nearly every possible softbrick scenario.
Coming from a bricked ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe, I am quite happy with my Xiaomi Mi MIX & will probably skip the upcoming generation to climb on the SD845/Kirin 980 train.
#edit# case in point (restore options):
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-remove-emui-firmware-downloads/
Twotems said:
I know this is the Mi Mix forum and there'll be an obvious bias but I'd like to get some opinions.
I got a Huawei P10 as a gift and I'm very impressed by EMUI despite what the detractors say. As a Redmi Note 3 owner I also like MIUI a lot (once I changed that horrible launcher). It also begs the question as to who copied who in terms of functionality and customizations. Let's just say they're equal but EMUI just edges it for me.
Given that the Mix2 and Mate 10 will both be near bezel-less with excellent battery life (by reputation), which one would you get? Pros and cons of each and why? No custom roms or modding. Both stock.
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Both are torture in stock form. My 2 least favorite OS and the 3 days I had to run my mix stock felt like an eternity.
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Both are torture in stock form. My 2 least favorite OS and the 3 days I had to run my mix stock felt like an eternity.
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To each his own I guess but it doesn't answer the question.
adwinp said:
It depends what you're looking for.
The Mate 10 will definitely have one of the best cameras (2 ISPs, a first for smartphones), it will also have a separate AI unit.
Kirin 970 will have 3 Cortex A73 cores - definitely no slouch in terms of performance.
BUT, Huawei is known for not having developer-friendly devices, in contrast to Xiaomi. Especially if you're looking at recovery options.
The fastboot images guarantee a restore from nearly every possible softbrick scenario.
Coming from a bricked ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe, I am quite happy with my Xiaomi Mi MIX & will probably skip the upcoming generation to climb on the SD845/Kirin 980 train.
#edit# case in point (restore options):
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-remove-emui-firmware-downloads/
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Thanks for the informative reply. Very valid points. As I said I'm not a modder but having that option with the Xiaomi may become important.
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In this thread we are going to give you the opportunity to win an Honor 9 Lite. One of Honor’s biggest launches in 2017 was the Honor 9. On January 17 Honor will launch the Honor 9 Lite in India. This phone will have all the spirit of the Honor 9 with a few changes.
Chipset HiSilicon Kirin 659
Display 18:9 1080 x 2160 pixels 5.6″
RAM 4GB
Storage 64GB
Camera Quad Lens: 13 MP + 2 MP, 1080p
Battery 3000 mAh
Find out more about this phone here and let us know what phone you're using right now and what you're looking forward to the most in the Honor 9 Lite. We will pick a lucky winner, based on the quality of their post and the number of thanks they receive.
Update: winners chosen.
The (comparatively)small size. For the love of god everybody stop this large(-r) screen madness and making even bigger phones. I like to use my phone in one hand and this one is a welcome change, a bigger battery would have been welcome but sony has shown us that even on Android optimisation can do wonders so looking forward to that
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In this thread we are going to give you the opportunity to win an Honor 9 Lite. One of Honor’s biggest launches in 2017 was the Honor 9. On January 17 Honor will launch the Honor 9 Lite in India. This phone will have all the spirit of the Honor 9 with a few changes.
Chipset HiSilicon Kirin 659
Display 18:9 1080 x 2160 pixels 5.6″
RAM 4GB
Storage 64GB
Camera Quad Lens: 13 MP + 2 MP, 1080p
Battery 3000 mAh
Find out more about this phone here and let us know what phone you're using right now and what you're looking forward to the most in the Honor 9 Lite. We will pick a lucky winner, based on the quality of their post and the number of thanks they receive.
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I'm using the Lenovo a6010 plus and my favorite thing about the all new Honor 9 Lite is everything. I love just everything about this phone especially the much smaller and easy to hold display size.
Tall displays are all the rage right now, but the screen estate is not always used by people. However, if you are into eBook reading, then the extra space will make for a better reading experience. If the OS is well optimized, then the battery backup will prove to be decent. I hope there might be OEM plastic backs for those people who are accident prone
The design and display and camera is pretty dope IMHO and i actually like the emui and its based on oreo!!yeyyy!!!
And dat back!!?
Right now I'm using a zuk z2
Specs at this price
Quad Camera and Display
Brilliant Quad Cameras and Beautiful Display. These are usual features about which a normal person will care and this phone excels in both.
Oreo + EMUI (*o*)
Edit: I will buy it anyway.lol.
I'm using HTC Desire 620G and Samsung galaxy s duos 2. The design is pretty sleek and is made of glass and is reflective. I mean the looks are good. I'm really looking forward for the camera and it is a quad camera setup and also looking forward for software and kernel optimizations made by honor when compared to other kirin 659 chips. First budget 18:9 phone from honor so excited to check its quality.
I'm using Pixel 2 XL now and I'm looking forward to advanced quad-camera and awesome infinity display of Honor 9 lite. And of course the headphone jack. I really miss it on Pixel 2 XL
If I win this, I'll support the device by building custom ROMs for it
Nitin
DrGreenway said:
In this thread we are going to give you the opportunity to win an Honor 9 Lite. One of Honor’s biggest launches in 2017 was the Honor 9. On January 17 Honor will launch the Honor 9 Lite in India. This phone will have all the spirit of the Honor 9 with a few changes.
Chipset HiSilicon Kirin 659
Display 18:9 1080 x 2160 pixels 5.6″
RAM 4GB
Storage 64GB
Camera Quad Lens: 13 MP + 2 MP, 1080p
Battery 3000 mAh
Find out more about this phone here and let us know what phone you're using right now and what you're looking forward to the most in the Honor 9 Lite. We will pick a lucky winner, based on the quality of their post and the number of thanks they receive.
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Really like the Size and display of the phone. The class finish of the front and back looks so gorgeous. And also out of the Box with Oreo is best out of the Best. It is having double tab to sleep and wake up features that every one asked for Kirin processor from Huawei. Worth for money.
Them cameras and stunning design!
Well, the minimal bezel is on trend and this is a boon as we have more screen to consume media or even use apps in split screen mode! But, the thing that excites me the most is dual front and rear camera and Honor promises a hardware level bokeh, so at this price range, it is a first I believe. Super psyched about those cameras. Also, a headphone jack! YAY! I'm using Lenovo Z2 plus now.
See basically right now using redmi 2 which 2-3 years old and for using oreo i have to flash custom roms from xda and developers have migrated to latest devices and with 1GB ram everyone knows how much it sucks
Can't take good selfies, imagine about those bouquet effect pictures with perfect background blur is a dream * I know google camera port is there but its for devices having oreo and 64 bit rom. Redmi 2 is having bugs in oreo to run camera firstly and secondly 64 bit oreo has not came
And battery its like charging and charging again and look wise is not good and display is old 720p display. And internal storage is 8 GB
With all that said i love the honor 9 lite coz its having all the features that my device is having very less
Awesome display,awesome looks,more battery,more ram,more internal storage too,better camera
I am using Moto g 2014.
I like the screen accept ratio of Honor9 Lite. It has beautiful look, efficient processor and excellent camera. Hope I will win
Hi, I'm using an Honor 8 right now, and I love it. What I'm looking forward the most in the Honor 9 Lite is the Dual Selfie cameras because I've liked the dual cameras on my Honor 8. Also, I want to try the 18:9 display, the screen on my current phone is good, and I would like to try the new aspect ratio. Finally and the most important, I want to try Oreo based EMUI 8, I'm really disappointed that my phone won't get EMUI 8 (based on what Honor India wrote), and because I want to try Project "Treble" (a HUGE thanks for @phhusson for his awesome work on "Treble", and also the EMUI camera port I want to try).
I like the 2160×1080 FHD+ screen with the 18:9 Aspect Ratio.
Time for Budget Level war between Honor and Xiaomi !
This is gonna be cool !
Honor 9 Lite, 4 Cameras, 4 Gigs of RAM, at that price! Seems to be a nice catch.
Huawei's on row of releasing high-end smartphones at low price!
Considering all the previous releases (7x,9,10), I guess this one's going to be a super-hit soon.
Like, now just when the crowd was going Whoa to dual cameras, here we have quad lenses! And that too front dual sensors.
Being a Lenovo's mid range (Vibe) smartphone user, I consider these specs to be that of a flagship. Mine powers a 3gig ram, 13MP cam(single lens tho ), 1.3 GHz of processor @ 13K!
A little drawback I feel is the battery. Hosting a very powerful spec, you'll need to have a long battery.
But, overall, it's a good deal for people trying to buy a new phone.
What I like about the Honor 9 Lite is the support given to the powerusers like me and many of us. Treble support and the growing quality of initiatiives make the mid-tier finally suitable for passionates, while additionally seeing such a quick implementation of fullscreen display makes it a thing to have quickly in own hands.
Chance to win for free on xda and the cameras I guess.
I am searching for a large screen device which also affordable, I found that device , but I am afraid of Kirin 970 , and software, ..and this device is about 15 month old .. and what is the alternatives in the price segment ?!
I'm thinking of dropping mine for the new realme x2 Pro... Only thing I don't like is lack of memory card...so I'll just get the 128 or 256 version.
https://buy.realme.com/eu/goods/121
wastedagen said:
I'm thinking of dropping mine for the new realme x2 Pro... Only thing I don't like is lack of memory card...so I'll just get the 128 or 256 version.
https://buy.realme.com/eu/goods/121
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Honor Note 10 had 6,95 Super Amoled Screen.
Batterylife from Honor Note 10 with 5000 mah Battery is amazing.
Dualspeaker Sound from HN10 is great.
Kirin 970 is good enough for games.
Micro SD Card Support
No Lte Band 20
Price 300-320 Euro Cect Shop or Ebay
Ok Realme had better Cpu,better cam,NFC,In Screen Fingerprint...all Lte Bands for Europe
both have advantages and disadvantages
Price 399-499
letschky said:
Honor Note 10 had 6,95 Super Amoled Screen.
Batterylife from Honor Note 10 with 5000 mah Battery is amazing.
Dualspeaker Sound from HN10 is great.
Kirin 970 is good enough for games.
Micro SD Card Support
No Lte Band 20
Price 300-320 Euro Cect Shop or Ebay
Ok Realme had better Cpu,better cam,NFC,In Screen Fingerprint...all Lte Bands for Europe
both have advantages and disadvantages
Price 399-499
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But the huge advantage big honor 10 is the screen and also it has 128 gigs internal memory over realme x2 Pro and 8 think honor 10 note has NFC
The main concern of me again Honor Note 10 is the
Processor and the software
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The main concern of me again Honor Note 10 is the
Processor and the software
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Processor is good enough.
with a little luck will also come android 10
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I had the Honor Note 10 if it had NFC I forgot
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i am looking on Gsm Arena Page and yes it have NFC
Yes the Note 10 does have NFC and it does work with Google pay somewhat. Because it is a Chinese only phone with a Chinese rom(firmware) finding a bank that works OK with Google pay is slim.
This, for me, is a big reason why I will be getting the realme. It has a European rom.
Don't get me wrong, the Note 10 is a fantastic phone and I will be keeping it as a back up.
Will it get any updates?!
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Will it get any updates?!
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It is on the list to receive Android 10. When? Who knows.....
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Not sure what happened. Re-uploaded screenshot....
Update: strange the uploaded pic was there a few hours ago and now it's gone again... I don't know why? Probably a dodgy site...
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Not sure what happened. Re-uploaded screenshot....
Update: strange the uploaded pic was there a few hours ago and now it's gone again... I don't know why? Probably a dodgy site...
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Double knocks on your Huawei phone screenshot
hi please i would like know if somebody try put 512 gb micro sd in an if work? thank you and what about camera? i had honor note 8 and camera is great... after that samsung note 8,s9+,last note 9 and i dont want to pay (i dont have) lot of money for phone with 12 mpx that great photos for facebook upload not for normal life . thank you for answers guys.
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hi please i would like know if somebody try put 512 gb micro sd in an if work? thank you and what about camera? i had honor note 8 and camera is great... after that samsung note 8,s9+,last note 9 and i dont want to pay (i dont have) lot of money for phone with 12 mpx that great photos for facebook upload not for normal life . thank you for answers guys.
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I have been using a 512gb card for quite a while now and have had no issues at all...inserted it and it read it straight away... Though I did format the card using the phone just to be sure all was OK before I started copying stuff across to it.
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This is the one I'm using..
As for the camera it's more than adequate for my needs. Taking a pic and sending through social media... That's it for me.
I didn't buy the phone for camera. I bought it for the huge screen and dual speakers for media watching.... Still more than happy with this phone. Have no urge to replace it.
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I have been using a 512gb card for quite a while now and have had no issues at all...inserted it and it read it straight away... Though I did format the card using the phone just to be sure all was OK before I started copying stuff across to it.
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This is the one I'm using..
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As for the camera it's more than adequate for my needs. Taking a pic and sending through social media... That's it for me.
I didn't buy the phone for camera. I bought it for the huge screen and dual speakers for media watching.... Still more than happy with this phone. Have no urge to replace it.
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thank you one more time for answer awesome 512 gb card is great i tought he can and ok camera is ok for me i dont taking som special photos i only dont like samsung 12mpx cameras .... yes exactly i want phone for multimedia on big screen thats same for mee and last qestion i will buy pnone today but stilll thinking about 6gb or 8gb ram variant witch one you have?
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thank you one more time for answer awesome 512 gb card is great i tought he can and ok camera is ok for me i dont taking som special photos i only dont like samsung 12mpx cameras .... yes exactly i want phone for multimedia on big screen thats same for mee and last qestion i will buy pnone today but stilll thinking about 6gb or 8gb ram variant witch one you have?
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I have the 6gb. But I believe to always get the best you can afford. So if your budget does allow, get the 8gb version. If not 6gb will be more than enough....
thanks man that is answer what i want to hear iam now on low budget and phone is only for yerar or something like that,so i am going to buy 6gb version(maby)
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Martin213 said:
Hi guys. I need an advise on wich phone to choose Mi 9T pro or Redmi note 8 pro. I'm not a heavy gamer. For me most important is camera,battery and community support (yes i know about 8 Pro Helio soc). Watched many videos in YouTube and still can't decide which device to choose. Seems both have a good camera's and decent battery life. Help me to choose ?
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My biggest influences was that I didn't want a notch or punch hole and wanted to ensure a decent level of custom ROM support.
It sounds like MTK are looking to be a bit more dev friendly, but personally I would want to see that happen first before considering an MTK device.
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Martin213 said:
What about camera between these two? I prefer better camera over notch/punch hole (i don't like those too) but community support Is most important for a long term usage...
Maybe i have to wait a bit longer and see what will happen with 8 Pro and development.
Thx
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The jury is out, with regards the camera. DXOmark didn't think it was anything special. There is a limit to how many pixels you can cram in such a tiny space and I reckon the Samsung ISOCELL chip had pushed things too far. It will be relying, too much, on post processing to remove the noise. Keeping around the 48MP range of the Sony and of their earlier ISOCELL sensor (so 12MP effective for most shots), with the larger sensor size could have given them a sweet spot.
how is xiaomi vs samsung in pushing new updates?how often?
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Samsung wins hands down for me ! Regular (monthly) updates, always latest security patches....
s3axel said:
Samsung wins hands down for me ! Regular (monthly) updates, always latest security patches....
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im asking that for my Deliberation - which phone to buy - ultra 21 or mi 11 pro
Ultra 21 as Mi 11 has default hard coded Google dialer which is ugly and not very user friendly, a total deal breaker for me.
But if you have patience to go with 1) boot locker unblocking 2) Change recovery 3) Download and instal EU Rom 4) Restore your apps and data then you can choose Mi 11.
Shailendra Garg said:
Ultra 21 as Mi 11 has default hard coded Google dialer which is ugly and not very user friendly, a total deal breaker for me....
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Hmmm, isnt it Samsung Dialer on the S21U ?...well, anyhow, you can change the default dialer (I'm using True Phone for some time now)...
I am not sure about usefulness of samsung dialer or true dialer but missing Miui dialer a lot.
xiaomi is useless at updates, flagships get a bit better treatment but montly patches, no never.
they couldnt deliver security patches even on android one devices. they are/were always late, and they even skiped a few months.
the only way to get a decent rom is with unlock/customs.
so , maybe oneplus 9 pro will do better jobe in all aspects including updates?
Updates are way overrated. They can and do break phones.
The 21U has a big price tag and no SD card slot.
Running Android 11 and that OS is less than stellar. I'm not impressed.
There's also owners experiencing the display dying, just goes black. Their are a couple XDA members that had it happen.
A used Note 10+/Pie* or a Note 20U/Q* are better phones in my opinion. It will be the next major release that holds any hope and that maybe influenced by the chipset availability or lack of.
I'm seriously considering buying another 10+, well built, fast, stable and a lot less issues with hardware and the bloody OS. It's a solid performer with a drop dead gorgeous square corner display. Running at 60hz but no tint or brightness issues; colors and gamma are excellent.
*Snapdragon variant, if you want to root maybe not a good choice, otherwise the best chipset
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how is xiaomi vs samsung in pushing new updates?how often?
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I have had Xiaomi Mi 11 ultra for more than 3 weeks now. It is my first Xiaomi device ever, so I can't comment on it's update frequency or quality. However, I have had quite a long experience with Samsung flagship smartphones since 2010. Of late Samsung has really improved their software update frequency and quality.
I have S21 ultra 16/512 GB sitting iny drawer for past 3 weeks as I wanted to give Mi 11 ultra a try for its camera.
My observations:
1. Camera - Still and Videos - Mi 11 ultra is better overall. S21 ultra is not bad at all though, with very consistent output in all conditions.
2. Display - S21 ultra has slight edge as it seems a notch brighter under sunlight. Quality wise I would say both are neck to neck.
3. Battery - Mi 11 ultra seems to have better battery backup (with similar settings), especially the standby drain with 4G data on all the time. Also, the charging is much faster on Mi 11 ultra.
4. Design & Build quality - Personal preference. Tie IMO. Xiaomi has really made a premium flagship this time. I mean the Mi 11 ultra doesn't even have any percievable panel gaps like S21 ultra!
5. Audio - Mi 11 ultra has better sounding stereo speakers IMO (better lows). Sound via galaxy buds live is similar on both.
6. Performance - Snapdragon 888 powered Mi 11 ultra is better than Exynos S21 ultra for gaming and media editing apps.
7. UI - Samsung's one UI is better IMO with lesser hard-coded junk (at least you don't need a third party app to disable Google apps on Samsung)! I might have a bias here, as I'm used to Samsung UI for years.
8. Extra features - S21 ultra has S pen support. Mi 11 ultra has IR blaster, Heart rate sensor and a 55W charger included. Also, the option for higher storage (512 GB) is there in S21 ultra, if you want.
Conclusion - I'm honestly blown away with the quality Xiaomi is offering for the price of 70k INR! I honestly bought it to break Samsung monotony in my smartphone upgrades, and I think I will keep it untill Samsung lures me back with something better in future.
P.S - OnePlus 9 pro is not in the same league as the the other two IMO!
well yes, xiaomi does make good hardware. software not so much.
if you check out their own c.mi.com forums, there are countless users complaining, they just dont care. there's 0 trnsparency about which devices are maintained and which they've abandoned, you dont know when you buy one how long they'll "support" it. it's like they have no interest in support. a lot of the guides and fixes end up being found and shared by end users. the few bug they do achnowlwdge are just being trown around between google's fault, qualcomm's fault, and we need more data, we released a fix maybe it will work... it woukd be funny if it wouldnt be about actual problems. they have a habbit of breaking ota updates on stock phones, simply by missmatching release targets. yes, im not kidding. they invented the concept of stable beta releases. where they beta test updates on random users. honestly where with oems you want them to release a patch, with xiaomi you wonder if you should risk installing it in case they found some new and improved way to break your phone.
funny thing is a lot of devices get a lot more fixed on their custom roms. countless devices that they reported nonono we cannot upgrade it to android 10, the hardware is not compatible. guess what the custom roms did it the next day.
at least for now they let users unlock their bootloaders (even if the process is broken af) and lately they provide kernel source codes, even if they always forget to keep them up to date.
it is what it is, ive learnt my lessons the hard way, only getting their phones after i see custom roms and treat them as hardware vendors.
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well yes, xiaomi does make good hardware. software not so much.
if you check out their own c.mi.com forums, there are countless users complaining, they just dont care. there's 0 trnsparency about which devices are maintained and which they've abandoned, you dont know when you buy one how long they'll "support" it. it's like they have no interest in support. a lot of the guides and fixes end up being found and shared by end users. the few bug they do achnowlwdge are just being trown around between google's fault, qualcomm's fault, and we need more data, we released a fix maybe it will work... it woukd be funny if it wouldnt be about actual problems. they have a habbit of breaking ota updates on stock phones, simply by missmatching release targets. yes, im not kidding. they invented the concept of stable beta releases. where they beta test updates on random users. honestly where with oems you want them to release a patch, with xiaomi you wonder if you should risk installing it in case they found some new and improved way to break your phone.
funny thing is a lot of devices get a lot more fixed on their custom roms. countless devices that they reported nonono we cannot upgrade it to android 10, the hardware is not compatible. guess what the custom roms did it the next day.
at least for now they let users unlock their bootloaders (even if the process is broken af) and lately they provide kernel source codes, even if they always forget to keep them up to date.
it is what it is, ive learnt my lessons the hard way, only getting their phones after i see custom roms and treat them as hardware vendors.
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I have zero confidence in Chinese products especially in sophisticated electronics. The CCP is omnipresent in Chinese manufacturing and culture. Expect hardware, firmware and software backdoors and/or spyware.
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I have zero confidence in Chinese products especially in sophisticated electronics. The CCP is omnipresent in Chinese manufacturing and culture. Expect hardware, firmware and software backdoors and/or spyware.
Actions have consequences...
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well... tough... almost everything's made over there.
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well... tough... almost everything's made over there.
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No, not true... and it's a lick on you. Samsung ie SK is a US ally.
One of the reasons I'll never buy a iPhone... they CCP sweatshops.
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im asking that for my Deliberation - which phone to buy - ultra 21 or mi 11 pro
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I personally prefer the Mi 11 Ultra to s21 Ultra, but the S21 is better than the 11 Pro, although the 11 Pro is no slouch and considerably cheaper.
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No, not true... and it's a lick on you. Samsung ie SK is a US ally.
One of the reasons I'll never buy a iPhone... they CCP sweatshops.
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Not entirely accurate my friend. https://techthelead.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made/
Here's from SamMobile https://www.sammobile.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made
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Not entirely accurate my friend. https://techthelead.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made/
Here's from SamMobile https://www.sammobile.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made
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Yeah I was thinking about that.
Hard to get around that for now. That may soon change. Being too dependent on global suppliers is a huge weakness.
The irony is this isn't a raw material but a manufacturing process that can be done anywhere.
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Don't count on that. You'll get one year of monthly security patches, one or two somewhat big updates and the next Android 12. Android 13 is questionable. I had the similar experience with my Oneplus 7T Pro - got only mothly security updates. It was supposed to get Adroid 12, but last i heard that it may never happen. And it got updated to Android 11 try to guess when - the day before the launch of Oneplus 9 end of march 2021 - three months after everyone else updated their flagships and half of midrangers to Android 11. Forget the promise about 3 years of software updates - 18 months is the top nowadays with Oneplus. And seeing how they are focused on their Nord devices that might be their last flagship. There's more money in midrangers.