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How is signal strength?

I would love to hear your thoughts on how this phone's signal compares to your old phone? I know some people using the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T have reported excellent signal strength with the device. I am on AT&T, but have used T-Mobile recently with the Note 3 and S5. I have found service inside buildings poor. I am curious how this device handles that. Note 4 users on Verizon claim the signal is excellent. Would love to hear your thoughts.

I really depends where you live and work I had Verizon, At&t, Sprint and Verizon. They all varied and I have run speed test all over the country coming to the same conclusion it depends on your area. Ask your neighbors and coworkers to run speed tests that will give you the best idea on what works for you.

johntuck77 said:
I really depends where you live and work I had Verizon, At&t, Sprint and Verizon. They all varied and I have run speed test all over the country coming to the same conclusion it depends on your area. Ask your neighbors and coworkers to run speed tests that will give you the best idea on what works for you.
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I'm not really interested in T-Mobile service, I'm interested in how well the signal performs on this device (N910T).

Maybe I miss understood you. How can you get any signal without service? I get OK service where I live inside buildings with this device and the signal that I get is usually full bars.

johntuck77 said:
Maybe I miss understood you. How can you get any signal without service? I get OK service where I live inside buildings with this device and the signal that I get is usually full bars.
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im asking those who have the device with service. I'm interested in how the signal performs on this device compared to other devices, such as, the S5, iPhone 5S, 6, Moto X ext...

MattMJB0188 said:
I'm not really interested in T-Mobile service, I'm interested in how well the signal performs on this device (N910T).
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are you high? to humor you... the signal works as it should, i get bars, i am able to browse the internet among other things that requires internet.
back to reality... the signal always depends on the damn carrier you have and their coverage and frequencies... verizon has good building penetration cause of the 700mhz spectrum

MattMJB0188 said:
I would love to hear your thoughts on how this phone's signal compares to your old phone? I know some people using the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T have reported excellent signal strength with the device. I am on AT&T, but have used T-Mobile recently with the Note 3 and S5. I have found service inside buildings poor. I am curious how this device handles that. Note 4 users on Verizon claim the signal is excellent. Would love to hear your thoughts.
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Compared to my Note 2 it has way better signal. At home my Note 2 always had 1 or 2 bars on LTE, the Note 4 always has 4 bars on LTE at home.

MattMJB0188 said:
I'm not really interested in T-Mobile service, I'm interested in how well the signal performs on this device (N910T).
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Fair enough. In my basement I used to get max. of 3 bars 4G hspa+....now with the N4 I get max. 4 bars LTE. (This happened after flashing my ROM.) Stock on the N4 I was getting 2-3 bars LTE.
Simple and straight up.
Hope that helps.

I'm coming from a Sony Z3 (and iPhone 5s before that) and I'm blown away with the signal strength I get with this device. I was actually talking about this with my fiance last night - comparing it to the 5s that she has currently, I was getting 4 (out of 5) bars where she was at 2.
Suppose I would need to look at hard signal strength numbers to know for sure, as it could just be software translating "more bars" where it isn't warranted. Without that though, it is noticeably better between the two devices.

T-Mobile over calculates the number of bars on their devices. What are you guys getting for the -dam value?

MattMJB0188 said:
T-Mobile over calculates the number of bars on their devices. What are you guys getting for the -dam value?
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THIS...Signal bars mean absolutely NOTHING; only dbm value will tell you your ACTUAL signal strength..

wase4711 said:
THIS...Signal bars mean absolutely NOTHING; only dbm value will tell you your ACTUAL signal strength..
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Yep. I had the T-Mobile Galaxy S5/Note 3, along with the AT&T S5/Note 3. I conducted a few tests of my own. Using both the T-Mobile branded S5 and Note 3 with a signal between -110dbm and -101dbm it would show 4 signal bars. The AT&T variant would show 2. On the T-Mobile S5/Note 3 for anything < -100dbm it would show the full 5 bars. This told me T-Mobile is over calculating the signal. Probably due to their high frequencies. And the fact that they want you to think you have a better signal that you really do, especially indoors.

OpenSignal shows -73/75 dbm indoors at my office.
From just using it, I consider the signal quality excellent. But I haven't tested the dbm at the other places I use it.

MattMJB0188 said:
Yep. I had the T-Mobile Galaxy S5/Note 3, along with the AT&T S5/Note 3. I conducted a few tests of my own. Using both the T-Mobile branded S5 and Note 3 with a signal between -110dbm and -101dbm it would show 4 signal bars. The AT&T variant would show 2. On the T-Mobile S5/Note 3 for anything < -100dbm it would show the full 5 bars. This told me T-Mobile is over calculating the signal. Probably due to their high frequencies. And the fact that they want you to think you have a better signal that you really do, especially indoors.
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every carrier shows you a stronger signal than you are actually getting, so that's not unique to t mobile..
here again, the only things that actually accurately shows signal strength is your -dbm number...don't be naive and think getting 4 or 5 signal bars means you have a strong signal with ANY carrier..

-107 dbm with 4 bars here

wase4711 said:
every carrier shows you a stronger signal than you are actually getting, so that's not unique to t mobile..
here again, the only things that actually accurately shows signal strength is your -dbm number...don't be naive and think getting 4 or 5 signal bars means you have a strong signal with ANY carrier..
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Maybe. But I think AT&T is a little bit more accurate, versus T-Mobile. I can't speak for Verizon or Sprint since I have never used them. I have always gone by the dbm number.

SM N950FD compatability with FIDO network.

Hi,
I bought the mentioned model online and using FIDO sim Card. I have moved from Canadian S8+. Note 8 shows data connection as "4G" (as against LTE of S8+) and I am getting 4 signal bars instead of 5. I am not noticing any signal drops or slow internet speeds though. I am just wondering if this is something i need to worry about. I still have the option to return the phone. If this is a serious issue, I would rather return the phone and buy a Canadian model. Thanks in advance for the help!

Trijunction said:
Hi,
I bought the mentioned model online and using FIDO sim Card. I have moved from Canadian S8+. Note 8 shows data connection as "4G" (as against LTE of S8+) and I am getting 4 signal bars instead of 5. I am not noticing any signal drops or slow internet speeds though. I am just wondering if this is something i need to worry about. I still have the option to return the phone. If this is a serious issue, I would rather return the phone and buy a Canadian model. Thanks in advance for the help!
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Hi, I think some (or maybe all?) of the international models simply show the 4G icon instead of the usual LTE icon that we're used to. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's normal.
For the reception: could it just be 4 bars due to your location, or has it been consistently lower than expected in different places too? If it's persisting then you could check which bands are supported on that model versus the ones used by Fido. Might just be bad reception in your area too...hard to say.

True 4G on INT models is same as LTE. Im using same phone and network, no issues.

Can second this.
Ask your Carrier to confirm your IMEI on their end and refresh (provision) your SIM.
Before I only received 4G on my Exynos but after the refresh, I now get 4G+.

shollywood said:
True 4G on INT models is same as LTE. Im using same phone and network, no issues.
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good to know that.thanks! looks like the 4g/lte icon issue is more of a cosmetic thing but doesnt really effect data speeds.
However, I am very sure signal bars a consistently lower than S8+. I hardly see Note 8 getting all bars unless I am out on roads, not the case with S8. how about you?

A_H_E said:
Can second this.
Ask your Carrier to confirm your IMEI on their end and refresh (provision) your SIM.
Before I only received 4G on my Exynos but after the refresh, I now get 4G+.
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Thank you.I have actually called fido and the lady indeed took the imei and made me restart the phone. I am yet to see 4G+ though. Thanks again!

sefrcoko said:
Hi, I think some (or maybe all?) of the international models simply show the 4G icon instead of the usual LTE icon that we're used to. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's normal.
For the reception: could it just be 4 bars due to your location, or has it been consistently lower than expected in different places too? If it's persisting then you could check which bands are supported on that model versus the ones used by Fido. Might just be bad reception in your area too...hard to say.
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yeah the bars are consistently low but didn't notice any drop in quality. Funny thing is only after getting this phone I realized how rarely we use these devices for actual phone calls anymore! Today whole day I didnt get any phone call from anyone, only tons of messages on various apps. I finally had to call myself from my desk phone!

Trijunction said:
Thank you.I have actually called fido and the lady indeed took the imei and made me restart the phone. I am yet to see 4G+ though. Thanks again!
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I should note, and I failed too, that I do receive 4G+ but usually in larger areas. I live in a small city of 15, 000 and sometimes catch 4G+. If I'm in a much denser populous, I always get 4G+ (except when I'm on a call; it switches to 3G or HSPA depending on which SIM is in).
Case in point, was in Toronto this past weekend and had 4G+ all weekend long.

sefrcoko said:
Hi, I think some (or maybe all?) of the international models simply show the 4G icon instead of the usual LTE icon that we're used to. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's normal.
For the reception: could it just be 4 bars due to your location, or has it been consistently lower than expected in different places too? If it's persisting then you could check which bands are supported on that model versus the ones used by Fido. Might just be bad reception in your area too...hard to say.
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A_H_E said:
I should note, and I failed too, that I do receive 4G+ but usually in larger areas. I live in a small city of 15, 000 and sometimes catch 4G+. If I'm in a much denser populous, I always get 4G+ (except when I'm on a call; it switches to 3G or HSPA depending on which SIM is in).
Case in point, was in Toronto this past weekend and had 4G+ all weekend long.
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Same

Hi,
I am facing the same issue. Phone only shows 4 G + Reception Signal is weak
When I use 3G APN signal is stronger. Can you please share APN Settings you used
Thanks

SM-N950F Slow Network Speeds On AT&T

Hey there fellas! I recently purchased an international Galaxy Note 8 to use on AT&T here in the U.S. Everything appears to work fine except the speed of my network. Normally in this area I would be getting LTE speeds around 30-40 up and down. With the Note 8 is displays H+ (which I understand to be LTE, but I may be wrong) and I get around 5-7 down and often less than 1mbps up. Some have suggested setting the preferred network time to LTE/UMTS auto (PRL) which was already selected on my device. Is there anything else I can do to get the proper speeds? Thanks!

SacrificedWalrus said:
Hey there fellas! I recently purchased an international Galaxy Note 8 to use on AT&T Thanks!
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On all of my international versions H+ was 3G and 4G was LTE. Depending on the area with 4G I would get 20 - 50 megs down on AT&T. On my 950U1 my settings under #*#*4636*#*# I have TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS selected by default and mine shows LTE and depending on the area up to 100 megs down.

H+ is 3G, or 3.5G for some carriers

CodeNameRedNeck said:
On all of my international versions H+ was 3G and 4G was LTE. Depending on the area with 4G I would get 20 - 50 megs down on AT&T. On my 950U1 my settings under #*#*4636*#*# I have TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS selected by default and mine shows LTE and depending on the area up to 100 megs down.
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Ah, that would explain why my speeds are so slow. Thank you for clearing that up. I attempted to select TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS as my preferred network mode but for whatever reason it will not apply. When I reopen that settings menu it goes back to whatever option was selected prior to that. Do you think it could have something to do with the selected APN? I have ATT Phone as my current APN, but at the store they were trying to use ATT Nextgenphone, which didn't work.

SacrificedWalrus said:
but at the store they were trying to use ATT Nextgenphone, which didn't work.
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I would do all I could to get the Nextgenphone APN working. It is what I used on all my international phones.

Took the Note 8 into the AT&T store today and swapped out the sim card without any luck. As usual they couldn't provide any help beyond that. I also I can't select TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS as my preferred network type for some reason. I contacted the person I bought the phone from and they claimed they used it on Verizon's LTE network without an issue. Very strange.

CodeNameRedNeck said:
I would do all I could to get the Nextgenphone APN working. It is what I used on all my international phones.
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Would you mind sharing what your CSC on your Note 8 is? I might end up flashing whatever firmware your phone is using, as mine is currently running a firmware for French phones. Not sure if thats the issue, but its possible.

SacrificedWalrus said:
Would you mind sharing what your CSC on your Note 8 is?
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When your look for the firmware look for 950U1 for AT&T. I would look around for a thread on flashing other regions first just to be safe.

CodeNameRedNeck said:
When your look for the firmware look for 950U1 for AT&T. I would look around for a thread on flashing other regions first just to be safe.
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I may be totally off here, but wouldn't that be an issue as the AT&T variant uses a Snapdragon SoC, while my device uses Exynos? Another concern for me would the ability to root as well, which is one of the reasons I decided not to buy an AT&T branded phone. Thanks for your help so far man, I appreciate it!

SacrificedWalrus said:
I may be totally off here, but wouldn't that be an issue as the AT&T variant uses a Snapdragon SoC, while my device uses Exynos? Another concern for me would the ability to root as well, which is one of the reasons I decided not to buy an AT&T branded phone. Thanks for your help so far man, I appreciate it!
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You are right. There is no AT&T firmware for your phone. Unless they changed something with the Note8 you should still be able to get 4G. I did with my international Note4, Note5, and Xperia Z5 Premium models. My son is using the Note5 with an Exynos processor and gets 4G speeds comparable to LTE speeds in the area.

Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.

LouK said:
Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply. I called ATT and gave them your suggestion and they claimed that it would not work. They said provisioning my new phone with an IMEI of a different phone would be temporary up to 2-3 weeks. Have you encountered this issue? I'm assuming not, so I'm curious as to how long you've had this fixed. Thanks again man

LouK said:
Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.
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^^ this. ATT LTE won't work unless the IMEI is provisioned .
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SacrificedWalrus said:
Thanks for the reply. I called ATT and gave them your suggestion and they claimed that it would not work. They said provisioning my new phone with an IMEI of a different phone would be temporary up to 2-3 weeks. Have you encountered this issue? I'm assuming not, so I'm curious as to how long you've had this fixed. Thanks again man
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I'v been using my N8 since it came out with my old N5 imei#
As I said be4 basically 4g LTE. &VoLTE Works.
Wifi calling etc.. no.
AND my wife is using the N5 so basically we have two phones on same account with same imei#!

Unlocked S10 bad reception on AT&T

My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?

Similar issue, just using TMO. I sent feedback to Samsung regarding the U1's network perf, as well as other concerns. Keep in mind that software improvements can take months to appear in updates.

rmrl2008 said:
My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?
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Try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
Then tap Phone Information, then Set Preferred Network Type to Global. This will take away LTE, but in my experience, I get a great HSPA+ signal. You won't notice a big difference in speed between HSPA+ and LTE, unless you are downloading big files.
I believe that this setting resets to the original setting when you reboot the phone. But just to be safe, take a screenshot of the setting before you change it. That way you can go back to LTE if you want.

lyall29 said:
Try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
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The unlocked FW does not respond to this dialer code. That has been the case since the S8/N8. You'd need another way to access the testing menu.

Ace42 said:
The unlocked FW does not respond to this dialer code. That has been the case since the S8/N8. You'd need another way to access the testing menu.
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It worked for me. I purchased the unlocked s10e from Best Buy.

lyall29 said:
It worked for me. I purchased the unlocked s10e from Best Buy.
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On S10+ it ignores it. Could be from their carrier files for TMO.

Network app still works, guess the dialer was altered to ignore it by CSC.

I'm using the SM-G973U1 that I got from the States on the Telus network in Canada and I can confirm I also get poor reception. I get better reception with my GS7 Edge.

I didn't get great reception with my S9 while home and I believe my S10 unlocked may be worse. In certain rooms I'm not sure I could even make calls without wifi calling. My wife's Galaxy J7 gets 3 more bars than my S10.

Any idea if this is a general S10 issue? Debating whether to get the AT&T S10. Don't want to get it if it's going to have the same issue.

Good data and reception was the only reason for me to consider US snapdragon S10, glad I went with Exynos then as it can't be that worse.

I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:

santhi4110 said:
I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:
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Will you still recieve tmo OTA updates?

For any of you with bad reception, can you check the actual decibels (dB levels) for signal instead looking at the count of signal bars on unlocked U1 model?

santhi4110 said:
I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:
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You can keep u1 firmware and just flash TMobile modem. I did this with my S8 and S9 with ATT.
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VICosPhi said:
For any of you with bad reception, can you check the actual decibels (dB levels) for signal instead looking at the count of signal bars on unlocked U1 model?
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Just sitting in one spot and rotating the phone in various directions mine will range from - 117dBm to - 105dBm. I know exactly where the tower is I'm hitting and as long as the back of the phone points at that tower I'm good.

daniel4653 said:
You can keep u1 firmware and just flash TMobile modem. I did this with my S8 and S9 with ATT.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try this option once I get a chance
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Shuthefrontdoor said:
Will you still recieve tmo OTA updates?
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AFAIK OTA updates will be fine, to check this we need to wait until next OTA

rmrl2008 said:
My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?
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I got the same problem with my s10+.... I hope samsung fix it through software

Let1107 said:
I got the same problem with my s10+.... I hope samsung fix it through software
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When I was going through the Pie beta on my Galaxy S9, this was a concern that many of us voiced to Samsung support. We we're given a cookie cutter answer of "we will look into it". Don't get your hopes up.

Tel864 said:
Just sitting in one spot and rotating the phone in various directions mine will range from - 117dBm to - 105dBm. I know exactly where the tower is I'm hitting and as long as the back of the phone points at that tower I'm good.
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Interesting.... do you have any others phones to compare to see how bad S10 signal levels are?

note 9 verizon vs note 9 tmobile

I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input

Terasman210 said:
I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input
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All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile

Jammol said:
All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile
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But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well

Terasman210 said:
But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well
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You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.

Jammol said:
You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.
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Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time

Terasman210 said:
Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time
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You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.

gruuvin said:
You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.
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His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.

Jammol said:
His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.
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Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.

gruuvin said:
Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.
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Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again

Terasman210 said:
Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again
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Yes. I think it may make no difference at all, or it might (much to gain, but nothing to lose), but most of the evidence in these forums, when it comes to connection quality, is extremely variable and anecdotal. Nobody can know an answer to this kind of question, unless they test it out for themselves. Good luck!