Unlocked S10 bad reception on AT&T - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?

Similar issue, just using TMO. I sent feedback to Samsung regarding the U1's network perf, as well as other concerns. Keep in mind that software improvements can take months to appear in updates.

rmrl2008 said:
My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?
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Try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
Then tap Phone Information, then Set Preferred Network Type to Global. This will take away LTE, but in my experience, I get a great HSPA+ signal. You won't notice a big difference in speed between HSPA+ and LTE, unless you are downloading big files.
I believe that this setting resets to the original setting when you reboot the phone. But just to be safe, take a screenshot of the setting before you change it. That way you can go back to LTE if you want.

lyall29 said:
Try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
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The unlocked FW does not respond to this dialer code. That has been the case since the S8/N8. You'd need another way to access the testing menu.

Ace42 said:
The unlocked FW does not respond to this dialer code. That has been the case since the S8/N8. You'd need another way to access the testing menu.
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It worked for me. I purchased the unlocked s10e from Best Buy.

lyall29 said:
It worked for me. I purchased the unlocked s10e from Best Buy.
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On S10+ it ignores it. Could be from their carrier files for TMO.

Network app still works, guess the dialer was altered to ignore it by CSC.

I'm using the SM-G973U1 that I got from the States on the Telus network in Canada and I can confirm I also get poor reception. I get better reception with my GS7 Edge.

I didn't get great reception with my S9 while home and I believe my S10 unlocked may be worse. In certain rooms I'm not sure I could even make calls without wifi calling. My wife's Galaxy J7 gets 3 more bars than my S10.

Any idea if this is a general S10 issue? Debating whether to get the AT&T S10. Don't want to get it if it's going to have the same issue.

Good data and reception was the only reason for me to consider US snapdragon S10, glad I went with Exynos then as it can't be that worse.

I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:

santhi4110 said:
I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:
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Will you still recieve tmo OTA updates?

For any of you with bad reception, can you check the actual decibels (dB levels) for signal instead looking at the count of signal bars on unlocked U1 model?

santhi4110 said:
I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:
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You can keep u1 firmware and just flash TMobile modem. I did this with my S8 and S9 with ATT.
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VICosPhi said:
For any of you with bad reception, can you check the actual decibels (dB levels) for signal instead looking at the count of signal bars on unlocked U1 model?
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Just sitting in one spot and rotating the phone in various directions mine will range from - 117dBm to - 105dBm. I know exactly where the tower is I'm hitting and as long as the back of the phone points at that tower I'm good.

daniel4653 said:
You can keep u1 firmware and just flash TMobile modem. I did this with my S8 and S9 with ATT.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try this option once I get a chance
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Shuthefrontdoor said:
Will you still recieve tmo OTA updates?
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AFAIK OTA updates will be fine, to check this we need to wait until next OTA

rmrl2008 said:
My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?
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I got the same problem with my s10+.... I hope samsung fix it through software

Let1107 said:
I got the same problem with my s10+.... I hope samsung fix it through software
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When I was going through the Pie beta on my Galaxy S9, this was a concern that many of us voiced to Samsung support. We we're given a cookie cutter answer of "we will look into it". Don't get your hopes up.

Tel864 said:
Just sitting in one spot and rotating the phone in various directions mine will range from - 117dBm to - 105dBm. I know exactly where the tower is I'm hitting and as long as the back of the phone points at that tower I'm good.
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Interesting.... do you have any others phones to compare to see how bad S10 signal levels are?

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[Q] Anyone else using the International (920i) model on AT&T?

I just got the phone. So far, it seems like my signal is weaker than my other AT&T phones and I have yet to connect to the 700mhz band (just 1700 and 1900 so far). I just want to see what others are experiencing with the same phone. My signal is weak and my LTE speeds are slow in my current location, but I just moved here a few days ago, so I don't have a really good reference point.
greyhulk said:
I just got the phone. So far, it seems like my signal is weaker than my other AT&T phones and I have yet to connect to the 700mhz band (just 1700 and 1900 so far). I just want to see what others are experiencing with the same phone. My signal is weak and my LTE speeds are slow in my current location, but I just moved here a few days ago, so I don't have a really good reference point.
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Its because AT&T signal bars read differently, look at the numbers, not the bars.
Got mine too today and running on Crickett smoothly. All is working except can not send or receive pic mms. Anyone on cricket please post your apn. I am using the one on their site but having this issue. Also, is the charger provided not a rapid charger?
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greyhulk said:
I just got the phone. So far, it seems like my signal is weaker than my other AT&T phones and I have yet to connect to the 700mhz band (just 1700 and 1900 so far). I just want to see what others are experiencing with the same phone. My signal is weak and my LTE speeds are slow in my current location, but I just moved here a few days ago, so I don't have a really good reference point.
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After couple of days using and comparing 920i and 920A on Att network decided to return 920i. Always better signal on 920A at least -5dBm and also much higher speeds at least x3 times, thats probably going to be fixed with rooting and Att firmware but Im not sure when will happend and if it works at all. Thats my experience, I hope you'll have better luck :good:
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designgears said:
Its because AT&T signal bars read differently, look at the numbers, not the bars.
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I was only looking at the numbers and Att's are correct so no difference in readings in my observation.
joro2077 said:
I was only looking at the numbers and Att's are correct so no difference in readings in my observation.
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Are you using the same APN on both?
OK so is it safe to say if I want an unlocked international S6 Edge phone that works with Cricket.. I would need the SM-G925I?
designgears said:
Are you using the same APN on both?
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Yes, that was the first thing I did. I like the 920i, it is unlocked, also unlocked bootloader, no bloatware and I like its tabless menu better, but worse signal and download speed, no warranty, front camera wasn't alligned properly, screen brightness weird right after rebooth made me stay away for now at least till they sort out some of those issues. Also there is a few other complains so didn't wanna take a chance with a $700 phone. This might be just my case, Im not trying to convince anyone, just giving my experience.
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designgears said:
Its because AT&T signal bars read differently, look at the numbers, not the bars.
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Also for the bars, there is no difference in representing the real signal, but on att 920A you have 5 bars and on 920i you only have 4, thats why I was comparing raw data in -dBm. If they figure out how to fix the signal I'll jump from the Att ship in a second
Everything else about my GS6 is fine, except I have the "always awake" issue, which I'm going to try and solve with stock recovery.
I compared the signal strength to several of my other phones last night: iPhone 6 Plus, OnePlus One, Moto X 2014. They were all in the same ballpark with respect to DBM and download speed except the Moto X, which was slightly stronger in both.
I don't think it's really an issue. I think it's just where I live.
greyhulk said:
Everything else about my GS6 is fine, except I have the "always awake" issue, which I'm going to try and solve with stock recovery.
I compared the signal strength to several of my other phones last night: iPhone 6 Plus, OnePlus One, Moto X 2014. They were all in the same ballpark with respect to DBM and download speed except the Moto X, which was slightly stronger in both.
I don't think it's really an issue. I think it's just where I live.
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Glad to hear that, maybe there was a problem with mine.
joro2077 said:
After couple of days using and comparing 920i and 920A on Att network decided to return 920i. Always better signal on 920A at least -5dBm and also much higher speeds at least x3 times, thats probably going to be fixed with rooting and Att firmware but Im not sure when will happend and if it works at all. Thats my experience, I hope you'll have better luck :good:
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I was only looking at the numbers and Att's are correct so no difference in readings in my observation.
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just curios, where did you buy an unlocked gs6 and have the ability to return it? did you have to pay a restocking fee? I also wanna buy an unlocked g920i or g920f but I'm afraid it will have issues and I will be stuck with it.
jimmiekain said:
just curios, where did you buy an unlocked gs6 and have the ability to return it? did you have to pay a restocking fee? I also wanna buy an unlocked g920i or g920f but I'm afraid it will have issues and I will be stuck with it.
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From ebay/breed, I send it back still waiting for refund or different phone.
I am curious about an International Unlocked Phone versus a Carrier Branded Phone also.
Does the Carrier Software fine tune the Bands as well meaning an AT&T or Tmobile S6 is precisely optimized for the exact Bandwidth on each Band versus International Unlocked Phone has the General Bands but not as specifically fine tuned - therefore lower signal strength due to wider tolerances ?
It's not just you... i have the issue too, but honestly i don't think there is much of a apples-to-apples difference...
My 920a (which i'm returning today) seems to get better signal strength compared to my 920i which i just got yesterday. Both signal bar and numbers...
however, after running some speed tests (and setting my phone up downloading apps over network while driving through the country (on 1 bar) everything worked just fine.
speeds were consistently between 2.5 - 6.0 MB so i'd say it's working okay regardless.

SM-N950F Slow Network Speeds On AT&T

Hey there fellas! I recently purchased an international Galaxy Note 8 to use on AT&T here in the U.S. Everything appears to work fine except the speed of my network. Normally in this area I would be getting LTE speeds around 30-40 up and down. With the Note 8 is displays H+ (which I understand to be LTE, but I may be wrong) and I get around 5-7 down and often less than 1mbps up. Some have suggested setting the preferred network time to LTE/UMTS auto (PRL) which was already selected on my device. Is there anything else I can do to get the proper speeds? Thanks!
SacrificedWalrus said:
Hey there fellas! I recently purchased an international Galaxy Note 8 to use on AT&T Thanks!
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On all of my international versions H+ was 3G and 4G was LTE. Depending on the area with 4G I would get 20 - 50 megs down on AT&T. On my 950U1 my settings under #*#*4636*#*# I have TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS selected by default and mine shows LTE and depending on the area up to 100 megs down.
H+ is 3G, or 3.5G for some carriers
CodeNameRedNeck said:
On all of my international versions H+ was 3G and 4G was LTE. Depending on the area with 4G I would get 20 - 50 megs down on AT&T. On my 950U1 my settings under #*#*4636*#*# I have TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS selected by default and mine shows LTE and depending on the area up to 100 megs down.
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Ah, that would explain why my speeds are so slow. Thank you for clearing that up. I attempted to select TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS as my preferred network mode but for whatever reason it will not apply. When I reopen that settings menu it goes back to whatever option was selected prior to that. Do you think it could have something to do with the selected APN? I have ATT Phone as my current APN, but at the store they were trying to use ATT Nextgenphone, which didn't work.
SacrificedWalrus said:
but at the store they were trying to use ATT Nextgenphone, which didn't work.
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I would do all I could to get the Nextgenphone APN working. It is what I used on all my international phones.
Took the Note 8 into the AT&T store today and swapped out the sim card without any luck. As usual they couldn't provide any help beyond that. I also I can't select TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS as my preferred network type for some reason. I contacted the person I bought the phone from and they claimed they used it on Verizon's LTE network without an issue. Very strange.
CodeNameRedNeck said:
I would do all I could to get the Nextgenphone APN working. It is what I used on all my international phones.
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Would you mind sharing what your CSC on your Note 8 is? I might end up flashing whatever firmware your phone is using, as mine is currently running a firmware for French phones. Not sure if thats the issue, but its possible.
SacrificedWalrus said:
Would you mind sharing what your CSC on your Note 8 is?
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When your look for the firmware look for 950U1 for AT&T. I would look around for a thread on flashing other regions first just to be safe.
CodeNameRedNeck said:
When your look for the firmware look for 950U1 for AT&T. I would look around for a thread on flashing other regions first just to be safe.
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I may be totally off here, but wouldn't that be an issue as the AT&T variant uses a Snapdragon SoC, while my device uses Exynos? Another concern for me would the ability to root as well, which is one of the reasons I decided not to buy an AT&T branded phone. Thanks for your help so far man, I appreciate it!
SacrificedWalrus said:
I may be totally off here, but wouldn't that be an issue as the AT&T variant uses a Snapdragon SoC, while my device uses Exynos? Another concern for me would the ability to root as well, which is one of the reasons I decided not to buy an AT&T branded phone. Thanks for your help so far man, I appreciate it!
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You are right. There is no AT&T firmware for your phone. Unless they changed something with the Note8 you should still be able to get 4G. I did with my international Note4, Note5, and Xperia Z5 Premium models. My son is using the Note5 with an Exynos processor and gets 4G speeds comparable to LTE speeds in the area.
Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.
LouK said:
Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply. I called ATT and gave them your suggestion and they claimed that it would not work. They said provisioning my new phone with an IMEI of a different phone would be temporary up to 2-3 weeks. Have you encountered this issue? I'm assuming not, so I'm curious as to how long you've had this fixed. Thanks again man
LouK said:
Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.
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^^ this. ATT LTE won't work unless the IMEI is provisioned .
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SacrificedWalrus said:
Thanks for the reply. I called ATT and gave them your suggestion and they claimed that it would not work. They said provisioning my new phone with an IMEI of a different phone would be temporary up to 2-3 weeks. Have you encountered this issue? I'm assuming not, so I'm curious as to how long you've had this fixed. Thanks again man
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I'v been using my N8 since it came out with my old N5 imei#
As I said be4 basically 4g LTE. &VoLTE Works.
Wifi calling etc.. no.
AND my wife is using the N5 so basically we have two phones on same account with same imei#!

Signal strength decrease after flashing unlocked U1 firmware. Anyone else?

Purchased an AT&T note 9. Had 3 bars in my home.
Two weeks after purchase I flashed U1 firmware. Now I have 1 bar in my home.
My Note 8, still on AT&T firmware, has 3 bars. What gives?
Anything we can do to help this signal strength?
CCJ22 said:
Purchased an AT&T note 9. Had 3 bars in my home.
Two weeks after purchase I flashed U1 firmware. Now I have 1 bar in my home.
My Note 8, still on AT&T firmware, has 3 bars. What gives?
Anything we can do to help this signal strength?
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The signal strength bars in the status bar are not necessarily indicative of the strength of signal, especially with carrier firmware. The carriers can put anything they want up there,AT&T proves that with showing "5G" in their phones, even though no phone exists anywhere in the world that has 5G capabilities ATM.
Either look in the Settings > About Phone section for the signal strength, or, d/l LTE Discovery or Cell Mapper in the Google Play Store to show what's going on.
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The signal strength bars in the status bar are not necessarily indicative of the strength of signal, especially with carrier firmware. The carriers can put anything they want up there,AT&T proves that with showing "5G" in their phones, even though no phone exists anywhere in the world that has 5G capabilities ATM.
Either look in the Settings > About Phone section for the signal strength, or, d/l LTE Discovery or Cell Mapper in the Google Play Store to show what's going on.
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Interestingly I did a speed test with both phones on google and sure enough the note 8 is quicker.
I will do what you recommend and try the d/l LTE Discovery or Cell Mapper. Thank you @KOLIOSIS
CCJ22 said:
Interestingly I did a speed test with both phones on google and sure enough the note 8 is quicker.
I will do what you recommend and try the d/l LTE Discovery or Cell Mapper. Thank you @KOLIOSIS
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There may be carrier aggregation on the respective firmware that makes for a stronger signal vs unlocked firmware.
Either way, don't trust what you see in the status bar on carrier firmware as gospel. All the US Carriers have a different look & at times, don't even have the same amount of total bars, some typically 5 & occasionally 6.
You lost your carrier aggregation by doing that. Flash back to original and it will fix it.
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sandman7793 said:
You lost your carrier aggregation by doing that. Flash back to original and it will fix it.
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That is a bummer. I will just deal with this low signal. The bloatware is intense on the at&t firmware
Wish we could flash carrier agg onto U1 firmware.
CCJ22 said:
That is a bummer. I will just deal with this low signal. The bloatware is intense on the at&t firmware
Wish we could flash carrier agg onto U1 firmware.
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You need to actually check the signal strength itself, not just the bars. The U1 is made.to work on all carriers so you shouldn't have lost carrier aggregation. My T-Mo Note 8 and my U1 Note 9 both get the same signal and speed on T-Mo.
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You need to actually check the signal strength itself, not just the bars. The U1 is made.to work on all carriers so you shouldn't have lost carrier aggregation. My T-Mo Note 8 and my U1 Note 9 both get the same signal and speed on T-Mo.
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Ok I'll download the app to check Db
Do you ever figure this out, I'm on AT&T too as well with Note 9. Flashed 2 days ago and my signal is terrible now. Home my signal is bad and sometimes it switches to just H+ signal and note LTE if that matters. People are saying i'm cutting out and last night i couldn't send messages until i made a call. This wasn't happening until i flashed to U1, I'm guessing i should go back to stock ?
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Do you ever figure this out, I'm on AT&T too as well with Note 9. Flashed 2 days ago and my signal is terrible now. Home my signal is bad and sometimes it switches to just H+ signal and note LTE if that matters. People are saying i'm cutting out and last night i couldn't send messages until i made a call. This wasn't happening until i flashed to U1, I'm guessing i should go back to stock ?
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Never did figure it out. I sold that note 9 Snapdragon & got an exynos version

[Q] Is this normal ? 4G to 3G to H+ when calling?

I have a unlocked s10+ with a ATT sim card, when I try to make a call, the HTE network symbol changes to a lower speed and eventually H (edge), however the call does go through?
Just curious if anyone else was seeing this ?
Thanks in advance!
Its normal if you have VoLTE disabled or if it isn't available. You can check in settings > connections > mobile networks and check if you have VoLTE enabled.
Don't see it under those options, thanks for the reply !
zerokewl22 said:
Don't see it under those options, thanks for the reply !
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Maybe your carrier doesn't support VoLTE yet, are u from the US?
This is how it looks on my phone.
hektsepulveda said:
Maybe your carrier doesn't support VoLTE yet, are u from the US?
This is how it looks on my phone.
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Yes I am in the US, carrier does support VoLTE, however I have an unlocked device ? maybe that might be why I cant see it ?
zerokewl22 said:
Yes I am in the US, carrier does support VoLTE, however I have an unlocked device ? maybe that might be why I cant see it ?
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Ask your provider to re-provision VoLTE setting to your SIM. Also sometimes you may have to wait for an update for he settings to get applied. Happened to me on my S7. Carrier had activated VoLTE but phone s/w didn't support it. After an update, everything worked.
data is limited to H or 3G (if you are lucky) during calls
thats normal as the phone is using bandwidth for voice calls and cannot offer same data speeds
4G is all about data transfers so you would never really make a call over 4G it will always be over H
ATT doesn't allow VoLTE on the unlocked version. You will need to flash the carrier rom to enable it.
Appreciate everyone's feedback, I spoke to my carrier, and they (Level 2 Tech.) claimed that they (ATT) and Samsung were working on a device performance update, but were not sure of the release time, I will see if they can address this issue, else will need to reflash with carrier rom
tim2london said:
data is limited to H or 3G (if you are lucky) during calls
thats normal as the phone is using bandwidth for voice calls and cannot offer same data speeds
4G is all about data transfers so you would never really make a call over 4G it will always be over H
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Wrong
lazard said:
ATT doesn't allow VoLTE on the unlocked version. You will need to flash the carrier rom to enable it.
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I recently switched to ATT and I have VoLTE on my S10e unlocked exynos. Had it on T-mobile too. I have a VoLTE switch under Connections>Mobile Networks. Snapdragon maybe different, but it definitely works on a stock unlocked device.
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I recently switched to ATT and I have VoLTE on my S10e unlocked exynos. Had it on T-mobile too. I have a VoLTE switch under Connections>Mobile Networks. Snapdragon maybe different, but it definitely works on a stock unlocked device.
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Maybe read and try to understand before jumping
YOU CANNOT HAVE 4G connectiond during voice calls
tim2london said:
Maybe read and try to understand before jumping
YOU CANNOT HAVE 4G connectiond during voice calls
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I have LTE during voice calls. Your phone/carrier may not give you this option, but others have it.
At&T doesn't fully support unlocked phone learned that the hard way when i bought my 1st unlock note 8. Internet was slow same signal your getting H+ no wifi calling it was a mess returned it and bought an At&t note.
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I recently switched to ATT and I have VoLTE on my S10e unlocked exynos. Had it on T-mobile too. I have a VoLTE switch under Connections>Mobile Networks. Snapdragon maybe different, but it definitely works on a stock unlocked device.
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Did you get your s10e exynos from that ebay deal?
Chronzy said:
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I recently switched to ATT and I have VoLTE on my S10e unlocked exynos. Had it on T-mobile too. I have a VoLTE switch under Connections>Mobile Networks. Snapdragon maybe different, but it definitely works on a stock unlocked device.
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Curious, what made you go for a Exynos phone? I thought they were inferior to the SD versions and LTE bands missing for the USA
skyrocketeer said:
Did you get your s10e exynos from that ebay deal?
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I got it from eBay yes. Not sure exactly which deal you're talking about.
Micky 22 said:
Curious, what made you go for a Exynos phone? I thought they were inferior to the SD versions and LTE bands missing for the USA
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Future custom roms, root. The exynos version isn't missing any LTE bands that I know of. I get great coverage and speed. I don't know how they are inferior to SD. Performance and battery life are good.
Unlocked U1 devices will not get VoLTE or VoWifi with AT&T. Some have had luck flashing the AT&T firmware and CSC on prior generations, but there wasn't a guaranteed way to make this work.
If you need these features, youre best off buying the AT&T branded version, or buying an international phone that enables VoLTE without requiring carrier validation. (Which will likely work)
tim2london said:
Maybe read and try to understand before jumping
YOU CANNOT HAVE 4G connectiond during voice calls
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If your provider supports VoLTE, then you can as voice is transmitted as VOIP call via LTE network. You should see VoLTE icon next to 4G icon if your provider supports it and is provisioned to your SIM card.

note 9 verizon vs note 9 tmobile

I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input
Terasman210 said:
I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input
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All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile
Jammol said:
All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile
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But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well
Terasman210 said:
But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well
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You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.
Jammol said:
You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.
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Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time
Terasman210 said:
Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time
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You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.
gruuvin said:
You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.
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His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.
Jammol said:
His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.
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Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.
gruuvin said:
Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.
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Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again
Terasman210 said:
Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again
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Yes. I think it may make no difference at all, or it might (much to gain, but nothing to lose), but most of the evidence in these forums, when it comes to connection quality, is extremely variable and anecdotal. Nobody can know an answer to this kind of question, unless they test it out for themselves. Good luck!

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