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I owned a T705, it was my phone and tablet, i loved it.
However, the camera was bad, and the whole Interface was very jittery.
I understand that this device is not getting updates from Samsung, but man, i sure miss the screen real state, also beautiful.
Have lollipop custom roms reached a state where they improve over samsungs touchwiz performance?
I am considering it, alas i read that a new Tab S might be coming.
Thanks.
We have unofficial build of cm12 and its very stable. Way better than touchwiz too. Its still being worked on so its not perfect. CM11 is great on it also. Both do improve performance over touchwiz. There is also a new tab s coming soon but that always expected from samsung. Up to you
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
We have unofficial build of cm12 and its very stable. Way better than touchwiz too. Its still being worked on so its not perfect. CM11 is great on it also. Both do improve performance over touchwiz. There is also a new tab s coming soon but that always expected from samsung. Up to you
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How is the battery life of the cm12?
This is what I got. I measured screen on times and standby times and this is what i got. This is from the T800 so you may get less because of lte and other stuff
Well, one of the problems if you own a T-705 is that under CM you will lose the phone features (CM 11 and 12 are for the T-700 only). I suggest that you try IronRom instead: definitely smoother than stock.
One rumor we heard is that the next generation flagship tablet will have a 4:3 screen ratio and a 64-bit processor, but it won't be coming until the end of year or late summer at the least. My preference is to have a 16:10 screen on my tab s.
I'd like a 4:3 personally since I do way more reading on my tablet than anything else. 16:10 is better for watching videos, but that's what I have my TV for
I don't have the money to upgrade so soon though
Thank you all for your Input.
My question is, with say, IronRom, is the performance improvement noticeable?
I found The Tab S beautiful, but very choppy overall, maybe the processor wasnt optimized for 2k, even with some custom ROMs (i used Selamba mostly back in the day) the performance of the UI was very below par, however, applications ran well enough, this led me to believe that it might have been touchwiz and not the hardware itself.
Thank you.
Satorikn said:
Thank you all for your Input.
My question is, with say, IronRom, is the performance improvement noticeable?
I found The Tab S beautiful, but very choppy overall, maybe the processor wasnt optimized for 2k, even with some custom ROMs (i used Selamba mostly back in the day) the performance of the UI was very below par, however, applications ran well enough, this led me to believe that it might have been touchwiz and not the hardware itself.
Thank you.
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Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
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I wish there was a video on how it works on the user interface, i currently own a OnePlus one and have the chance to sell it, i miss the size of a tablet, but i dont want to regret getting it and find out the stutter is still there, there are rumors that it will be getting Lollipop soon too (Tab S), and maybe those optimizations will make the difference.
Thanks again.
Satorikn said:
I wish there was a video on how it works on the user interface, i currently own a OnePlus one and have the chance to sell it, i miss the size of a tablet, but i dont want to regret getting it and find out the stutter is still there, there are rumors that it will be getting Lollipop soon too (Tab S), and maybe those optimizations will make the difference.
Thanks again.
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Lollipop is coming in march/april (sammobile confirmed/estimate). I couldnt find a video on the performance
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Lollipop is coming in march/april (sammobile confirmed/estimate). I couldnt find a video on the performance
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I was planning to get the T-705 because i dont like carrying two devices around, thats the thing with CM11/12, they dont support calls, so id have to go with IronRom with is pretty much touchwiz, and while it may have optimizations, i dont expect miracles
Satorikn said:
I owned a T705, it was my phone and tablet, i loved it.
I understand that this device is not getting updates from Samsung
Thanks.
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Wait. WHAT??
No, they are updating it, but official updates stopped at 4.4.2, now we have news that they will update it to Lollipop, but after release, there was no continuous updates as with their other devices, and for some people, it was a good sign that samsung just abandoned the device, that's what i meant.
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Iron rom is great. No lag in touchwiz and even with the stock touchwiz launcher, its all smooth. Battery life and performance is great on it too.
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Come on guys, which part of the stock GUI or launcher is actually choppy? Where is the mythical lag? Haven't seen it myself.
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Come on guys, which part of the stock GUI or launcher is actually choppy? Where is the mythical lag? Haven't seen it myself.
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The part where its choppy on stock firmware is just scrolling through the launcher. It lags when just scrolling through the launcher and switching between some apps (ex clash of clans). Iron rom has none of that. Sometimes the GUI lags when you have too many apps open and it uses all the ram. Example like 16 games open all at once. It can freeze and force a reboot. GUI doesnt lag that much like the launcher. Hope this helps!
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
The part where its choppy on stock firmware is just scrolling through the launcher. It lags when just scrolling through the launcher and switching between some apps (ex clash of clans). Iron rom has none of that. Sometimes the GUI lags when you have too many apps open and it uses all the ram. Example like 16 games open all at once. It can freeze and force a reboot. GUI doesnt lag that much like the launcher. Hope this helps!
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I am not sure which part of scrolling through launcher is supposed to give lag. I have three screens worth of application icons in the app launcher and I had no problems with those. As for having 16 games open, I don't see how that represents typical usage.
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I am not sure which part of scrolling through launcher is supposed to give lag. I have three screens worth of application icons in the app launcher and I had no problems with those. As for having 16 games open, I don't see how that represents typical usage.
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Lol yeah. If your a typical user, 4-6 apps open or less, it can handle it. 16 apps open would be a user who stresses the cpu and gpu.
Well, in my experience there is some lag basically everywhere with the stock ROM, not only in the launcher. Loading pages and scrolling is also slightly choppy in any browser, and also in applications that use WebView components.
I wouldn't rate this as very evident, especially because the CPU has plenty of cores, but it is there.
With IronRom + SkyHigh kernel + Nova Launcher + things get smoothened just that small bit that makes everything feel right
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Well, in my experience there is some lag basically everywhere with the stock ROM, not only in the launcher. Loading pages and scrolling is also slightly choppy in any browser, and also in applications that use WebView components.
I wouldn't rate this as very evident, especially because the CPU has plenty of cores, but it is there.
With IronRom + SkyHigh kernel + Nova Launcher + things get smoothened just that small bit that makes everything feel right
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My main problem with the 705 is the poor battery life. Does IronRom improve this?
Is the performance of the community build of oxygenOS better than the official version?
Without looking at benchmarks and based only on real-world user experience, I would say that both version perform almost the same.
I might give to official 3.2.7 a slight edge, but they are really really close in my humble opinion.
i've noticed the app launch times on community build has been better than oxygen os. I still prefer oxygen os due to it being the closer one to stock.
You should really give it a shot yourself to see if you get better performance on cb or oss.
I was under the impression that the CB version would be 'unstable' but it definitely is not.
I must say OOS is more polished (enhanced?) AOSP.
I am getting the same battery life as the 3.2.7 so no worries there too.
hello, it is problematic returning from cb 7 beta oxygenOs stok?
OnePlus has implemented improved file system on OP3T. When they were asked that if these improvements would be implemented on OP3, they said that they are already present in community builds of OP3. Which is why the app opening speeds are quite noticeably better on CBs. But there definitely are minor stutters/lags while scrolling. These are not that often but are definitely there.
Stable versions (which I haven't really used a lot since CB 3.5.2) doesn't have that fast app opening speed but provides a more consistent experience. I went back to stable 3.2.6 for a while and there was not a single stutter anywhere, anytime. Ultimately came back to CBs when they implemented app lock.
Don't worry about benchmarks, they are meaningless. 3,000 extra points in Antutu means absolutely nothing in real world performance.
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OnePlus has implemented improved file system on OP3T. When they were asked that if these improvements would be implemented on OP3, they said that they are already present in community builds of OP3. Which is why the app opening speeds are quite noticeably better on CBs. But there definitely are minor stutters/lags while scrolling. These are not that often but are definitely there.
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Only if you do a factory reset, otherwise standard partitioning is used.
I have been eyeing this phone for a while now, mainly for the battery life. However, I have read on the Reddit forums about issues with lag in general everyday usage which theoretically shouldn't have in comparison with other lesser powered phones.
Have any of you owning this phone experience this?.
Appreciate your inputs!
Try this
Won't that significantly reduce battery life?
To answer OP, I have not really experienced lags, it happened sometimes while quick switching apps, nothing annoying. But reading user reports show there is something, probably related to user habits, installed apps, etc. N7+ software needs some polishing?
System animations are definitely not well optimized. Specially app switching makes it stutter a lot. Doing the trick mentioned above seemed to have helped somewhat with app opening animations but app switching is still stuttering as mad. Hope they fix it in an update. This phone surely is capable of being smooth all around.
I have experienced this. Stutter was huge while switching apps and going from home screen to Google now. After doing the trick mentioned in the second post it's much better. Still not perfect though.
No stutter here, running on O 8.1 May security update. 7+ TA 1055
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I'm on the same build (8.1), May Update and model 7+TA 1055. Definitely getting lag with swiping to Google app and multitasking. Also tried the disabling of the components shown in 2nd post. Can't see a difference. Will return it and try another 7+. Can't bear to give up yet, the rest of the phone, I like a lot...?
I installed the android P beta, and the stutter is completely gone. Also, on 8.1 i was experiencing a Little delay while closing apps, which is gone either. Although there are some minor bugs in P, i prefere P anyways.
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I installed the android P beta, and the stutter is completely gone. Also, on 8.1 i was experiencing a Little delay while closing apps, which is gone either. Although there are some minor bugs in P, i prefere P anyways.
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I'm glad to hear that! I've also been watching footage on YouTube on Android P for N7+. It certainly looks smoother to me as well. I'm just to chicken to flash to P and flash back. Anyways I hope Nokia doesn't wait until P to start the optimisations. For now, I'm simply not using the Google app lol.
I am on Oreo 8.1....there is definite lag and hiccup in general performance..with SD 660 and pure android, it should be butter smooth.
Thanks for all the replies so far. Seems like the lags are due to lack of software optimization and not a deal breaker issue. Here in Hong Kong it is selling for 315 USD, I think I'm gonna take that deal.
Hello
I just bought p20 pro
But performance is really bad
Software lag too much
Facebook app lag too much
I'm feeling like I'm using samsung note 4
How to fix this problem?
Phone is great
Camera is great
But software is ??? in term of performance
I just recieved the p20 pro about 3 days ago. I uninstalled or disabled all the bloatware and now it runs fine but not nearly as smooth as a oneplus or a pixel phone.
You will notice a very small stutters here and there in apps but nothing bad nor does it ruin the experience.
I use Friendly instead of FB because its very light weight so I don't know about the performance of FB.
Huawei does need to further optimize EMUI though
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I just recieved the p20 pro about 3 days ago. I uninstalled or disabled all the bloatware and now it runs fine but not nearly as smooth as a oneplus or a pixel phone.
You will notice a very small stutters here and there in apps but nothing bad nor does it ruin the experience.
I use Friendly instead of FB because its very light weight so I don't know about the performance of FB.
Huawei does need to further optimize EMUI though
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I came from Samsung s9+ and I can say that p20 pro is same or just a little faster than s9+... I haven't notice lags in Facebook or. Any other apps...
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tsiglas said:
I came from Samsung s9+ and I can say that p20 pro is same or just a little faster than s9+... I haven't notice lags in Facebook or. Any other apps...
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Your going from a heavily skinned UI to another. The performance isn't bad but its not as smooth as a pixel\oneplus and it'll probably never be quite on that level. I still think EMUi needs some work, Its a little cluttered.
worldsoutro said:
I just recieved the p20 pro about 3 days ago. I uninstalled or disabled all the bloatware and now it runs fine but not nearly as smooth as a oneplus or a pixel phone.
You will notice a very small stutters here and there in apps but nothing bad nor does it ruin the experience.
I use Friendly instead of FB because its very light weight so I don't know about the performance of FB.
Huawei does need to further optimize EMUI though
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Optimize? How about throwing that gingerbread looking iOS wannabe in the garbage and giving us something closer to Android? Well, I said my piece.???
BTW What did you use to uninstall the bloatware?
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No my old s9 plus run smoother
And facebook is alot faster and smoother
Software optimization very bad
Did you take the device or a test-drive before purchasing it? For me personally it's very fluid and more responsive compared to a S9 but have to agree that Facebook scrolling stutters quite a bit.. I'm confident Huawei will keep optimizing EMUI and within a month or so we should see some significant improvements to hardware-software related GPU optimizations.
Upcoming .131 update seems to specifically focus on a smoother experience and reduced power consumption.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9si35j32vy1nslv/Screenshot_20180616-104022.jpg?dl=0
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No my old s9 plus run smoother
And facebook is alot faster and smoother
Software optimization very bad
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https://www.phonearena.com/news/Huawei-smartphones-GPU-Turbo-software-update_id105748https://www.phonearena.com/news/Huawei-smartphones-GPU-Turbo-software-update_id105748
GPU TUEBO is coming to p20 pro soon so we have a lot to see in next months
Still have to wait to get my bootloader unlocked so figured I would ask here.
To anyone who is using a GSI and/or Lineage OS, do you notice any performance improvement, particularly in emulation?
I notice when I try to emulate some GameCube games (Mario Golf) that performance is at full 60fps for about 60-75% of the time, with seemily occasional bogdowns that get worse if any other apps are open.
Would switching to a lighter ROM result in a performance normalisation/improvement ? Have any of you noticed a gaming performance improvement?
I've been on the HavocOS 2.9 GSI for a couple of weeks now and, while I didn't notice any drastic change in game performances, the general UI is snappier and the overall speed in, let's say, opening and closing applications is definitely improved.
I tend not to game a lot on my phone, but for what it's worth I feel that compared to when I was running the stock ROM my experience on both CoD: Mobile and PPSSPP (Dragonball Z: Shin Budokai 2 and Prince of Persia: Revelations) is way more consistent: I don't experience frame drops at all and PPSSPP has no issues in mantaining a stable 60FPS with the rendering options set on 2X.
If you'd like something more specific I can try and running some tests of your choice when I'll have some time on my hands
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I've been on the HavocOS 2.9 GSI for a couple of weeks now and, while I didn't notice any drastic change in game performances, the general UI is snappier and the overall speed in, let's say, opening and closing applications is definitely improved.
I tend not to game a lot on my phone, but for what it's worth I feel that compared to when I was running the stock ROM my experience on both CoD: Mobile and PPSSPP (Dragonball Z: Shin Budokai 2 and Prince of Persia: Revelations) is way more consistent: I don't experience frame drops at all and PPSSPP has no issues in mantaining a stable 60FPS with the rendering options set on 2X.
If you'd like something more specific I can try and running some tests of your choice when I'll have some time on my hands
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That is awesome information thank you!!
Currently I am using Dolphin MMJ release version 10630 . Using Vulcan GPU plugin, emulated CPU speed at 70% . Everything else stock.
Playing Mario Golf Toadstool Tour. It gets some pretty hard dips around 20-30fps and then shoots back to 60. At the tee-off of some holes it hovers around 48-50fps instead of 60.
Curious to know if that can be pushed up to 60FPS with Havoc. I have tried game turbo boost mode in MIUI11 and it makes zero difference with FPS, but adding the game to the memory exception list prevents dolphin from being killed when I minimize it.
Does camera improved on custom roms?
amirinjast said:
Does camera improved on custom roms?
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If you care about camera quality, stay on the stock ROM for now
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If you care about camera quality, stay on the stock ROM for now
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I care about it and sadly it's sucks in compare to my old device (RN7) with Gcam ?
Shots taken with Note7 by gcam was even better than i phone x! Details colors and...
amirinjast said:
I care about it and sadly it's sucks in compare to my old device (RN7) with Gcam ?
Shots taken with Note7 by gcam was even better than i phone x! Details colors and...
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I was thinking of upgrading to this phone from Redmi Note 7.
How has your experience been?