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I have a htc Kaiser and there is a problem with the external 3Mp camera. When you start the application to take photos, then appears two parallel stripes, one half yellow hald red, and other below half green half blue. This happens only in the external ( 3 Mp ) camera, not in the 3g one. How I can fix it ????
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I have a htc Kaiser and there is a problem with the external 3Mp camera. When you start the application to take photos, then appears two parallel stripes, one half yellow hald red, and other below half green half blue. This happens only in the external ( 3 Mp ) camera, not in the 3g one. How I can fix it ????
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Clean the lense
I have the same problem.
Tried cleaning the lens, didn't work.
Hard reset didn't work either.
Seems like a hardware fault with the camera.
Wait, are you saying they appear in the "viewfinder" of the app, or the actual photos?
Post an example shot please?
Mostly, It's cameras bug.
Atmos said:
Mostly, It's cameras bug.
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Was that supposed to be an answer to my question or a response to someone else?
Really, it's not possible to say whether this is an unusual "feature" or a bug without more info. The way the original poster describes it, it sounds like it might be some unusual framing assist feature in the live preview. No one seems to be willing to say whether it is in the previews or if it is in the actual pictures taken. (I know I have seen the Kaiser pictures thread, and they look pretty good other than some obvious deficiencies in the debayering algorithm that cause "maze" patterns to appear in certain situations, which is a common problem with some of the older/simpler debayering algorithms.)
Entropy512 said:
Wait, are you saying they appear in the "viewfinder" of the app, or the actual photos?
Post an example shot please?
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yes, good question. does it look like this when you view it on your computer, or is it only when it's sized down on your device?
I can see the stripes while taking the picture and they are also part of the saved image. Viewed on the TyTN II and on a PC.
The camera was working fine then all of a sudden just started showing stripes.
Attached are some photos.
Looks like i might have to send the TyTN II for repair.
I also noticed that when you take the battery cover off, it seems like the camare can be taken out, so it may have moved and not making a good contact.
Dils said:
I can see the stripes while taking the picture and they are also part of the saved image. Viewed on the TyTN II and on a PC.
The camera was working fine then all of a sudden just started showing stripes.
Attached are some photos.
Looks like i might have to send the TyTN II for repair.
I also noticed that when you take the battery cover off, it seems like the camare can be taken out, so it may have moved and not making a good contact.
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lol my first glance and it looked like you were targeting things with a crosshair. yea thats different than the lines i hought you were talking about, you need to send that back for repair.
Yeah, definately something wrong there, likely broken hardware.
Also I have the same problemna!
This happened to mine too, after working fine for about a month. Seems like a common problem, interesting it shows up after time too. I sent mine in for repair/replacement but it may happen again....
Even my own, for a month everything was ok, then is the line appeared
Same Problem
My camera also did this. I changed the flicker adjustment in the camera settings to 60 hz from auto and it went away, only to reappear again. Again, I changed the flicker adjustment, this time to aut, and it went away again. Very strange. It appears I can paly with the flicker adjustment in the camera settings and make it go away, at least for a while. It appears to be a common problem, likely software related.
i too
hi i too experiance the same problem.......
is there any one to help us... please post a geniune reply to our problem
This is more of a workaround then anything, but if you have a problem with the low lighting = low FPS try this....
Open up your camera, then turn off the screen with the camera still open.
Keep off for a few seconds....
Then turn it back on. Bam! Super fluid motion in the camera lens.
I have no idea why this works. Anyone have ideas?
redsrule2500 said:
I have no idea why this works. Anyone have ideas?
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Not to offend you, but mabe because it's been posted here several times
Just a guess
I've never seen it here...but why does it work????
redsrule2500 said:
I've never seen it here...but why does it work????
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its somewhere in one of these threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365345
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367065
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369606
i think that a modertor should put this up on one of the sticky articles..
and in copy and paste the solution onto one of the stickys
wow cool, suprised I havent seen this before thanks for the info
Well, I'm also haven't seen this info before (how could I, the forum is loaded with humongous amount of info and it's virtually impossible to follow it all). But, anyway, this trick working like a charm, therefore redsrule2500, thanks a bunch!
Yes, it does appear to help the lag. Thanks.
Having taken some time in different light conditions I observe the following:
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It does certainly work. However sometimes you need to turn off and on a couple of times.
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If having done the on/off with camera app running trick, you point the camera at something very bright, the lag returns and you have to repeat the on/off trick.
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Doing this trick reduces the cameras light sensitivity. So while it cuts out the lag/blurry focus on moving objects, it also reduces what the camera sees in dark conditions. For example before doing the trick, I focused the camera on people walking down a dark street with one or two street lights on. The people were blurry but the buildings were fine. I then did the trick. The people were no longer blurred as they walked. BUT, the camera no longer saw much of the buildings that were away from the street lights.
So to sum up.
Yes it reduces problems of focusing on moving objects at night.
But the price you pay is that there is a noticable reduction in what the camera can pick up in dark conditions.
It seems to be a trade off and so:
if there are no moving objects in the picture, you are better not to use the trick.
If there are moving objects, you need to decide whether it is more important that they are in focus or whether you want the camera to pick up as much detail as possible. If moving object focus is more important Do the trick.
Mike
oh my God!! it does work!
this is just so awesome!!!! woohoo!!!
mikechannon said:
...I focused the camera on people walking down a dark street with one or two street lights on.
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what are you doing in a dark street taking pics of people!?!
haha, just messing with you
i haven't tried this yet (dont use my camera much) but it has been posted before.
have you noticed that all focusand light effects dissapairs? I think it simply removes them, and thereby increasing the pref
Very handy trick. Thanks!
Awww cumon guys!!!
The 3mm aperture we have has to have a certain amount of time to grab the available light (simple terms for CCD charge accumulation!)
SO, HTC put in this thing called exposure control.
Sample time per frame is set to automatically check first seen light levels and set frame capture to best fit exposure/light level.
Try it in a big room at night, swing slowly around to a dark corner and then to a well lit area and you will see the frame rate change.
All you are doing is confusing the intial sample to default daylight.
We have a very basic camera but its a trade off with SPACE/POWER and a few other things.
Farsquidge said:
Awww cumon guys!!!
The 3mm aperture we have has to have a certain amount of time to grab the available light (simple terms for CCD charge accumulation!)
SO, HTC put in this thing called exposure control.
Sample time per frame is set to automatically check first seen light levels and set frame capture to best fit exposure/light level.
Try it in a big room at night, swing slowly around to a dark corner and then to a well lit area and you will see the frame rate change.
All you are doing is confusing the intial sample to default daylight.
We have a very basic camera but its a trade off with SPACE/POWER and a few other things.
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While this is true, it doesn't mean this trick won't be helpful in a few situations.
I have a new tilt and the camera seems very slow and sluggish. When I move the phone around the picture gets blurry and there is an awful delay. Any fix?
Hello, wake up, join us on the GPU driver waiting list
dylanc430 said:
I have a new tilt and the camera seems very slow and sluggish. When I move the phone around the picture gets blurry and there is an awful delay. Any fix?
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same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
EDIT: fit it or lose 14222 fans forever
drownage said:
same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
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For me, I felt like Leo's latest v4 ROM had the fastest image previewing and capturing of all ROMs I've tested. To go to the thread, CLICK HERE.
you call that a camera?
drownage said:
same... tried all roms just to get this fixed... no luck... theres no picture i have taken that isnt blurred atleast a bit...
HTC fix it or lose a fan forever !!!
EDIT: fit it or lose 14222 fans forever
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i surely hope that you didnt get the kaiser so that you use it as a camera! I would give up the camera if it would make it thinner, lighter, or cheaper... even for non of the above.
HTC, please remove the camera and sliding keyboard and make the thing thinner... if not i'm sure you'll not lose anyone you weren't gonna lose once the new iphone is out with 3G, gps, and custon softs.
Ok I have some points to make here. You guys ever heard the phrase, "Jack of all Trades, Master of none"? It means the Kaiser is not the Best Phone or Camera or GPS device. But they are good enough. If you want quality Prints get a Digital SLR. Nikon with 51 Focus Points!. Yeah Baby!
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
I swear, Why do you guys keep dwelling on this Driver Issue. Its like this one time I touched the stove, The burner was On, I burned my hand. I now don't touch the stove when it's on. HTC has blew past some many promises of these "Magical Fix all drivers." That I now don't care for or expect the drivers.
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Ok I have some points to make here. You guys ever heard the phrase, "Jack of all Trades, Master of none"? It means the Kaiser is not the Best Phone or Camera or GPS device. But they are good enough. If you want quality Prints get a Digital SLR. Nikon with 51 Focus Points!. Yeah Baby!
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
I swear, Why do you guys keep dwelling on this Driver Issue. Its like this one time I touched the stove, The burner was On, I burned my hand. I now don't touch the stove when it's on. HTC has blew past some many promises of these "Magical Fix all drivers." That I now don't care for or expect the drivers.
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My main question is jimmy, the tilt has a camera WERE???
hahahaha
JimmyMcGee said:
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
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Tried it , nice tip! Next time I forget the Nikon (coopic ha) and I absolutly have to take a pic with the Kaiser, I'm taking the cover off. Picture came out 50% clearer.
Quick Solution
In order to have a faster responding camera, do the following:
Turn on your camera
Press the power button to switch the device to standby mode
wait for 5 seconds
Switch on
You will have the camera much faster
Note that you are to turn off the key lock app if you have it on in order to have this working
HOPING FOR FULL DRIVERS.....NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
AWAITING THE XPERIA
i figured out a way to make it better..u need light tho otherwise it will be really dark..if its laggy leave ur camera on and press power wait for a couple secons and press power again..it should be black for a while and then ur camera will come up but it will be very dark..tell me if this helps
I have an easier fix. Turn off your wifi before taking pictures. If you haven't noticed, clicking the power button to go into standby suspends the wifi. When you click the power button again you will have about 3-5 solid seconds of faster camera until the wifi turns back on then it'll be lagging again as usual. So just turn off the wifi then take pictures. If you have a AT&T Tilt you can easily turn off the wifi by hitting Fn then Right arrow on your keyboard, then do the same thing again when you want to turn it back on.
Doing that and also doing what Jimmy said in this post
JimmyMcGee said:
Second, If you pop off the battery cover and take a picture of something, then pop it back on and take the very same picture. Compare the Two. The Plastic over the Camera clouds the pictures. I personally Broke the Plastic Away from in front of the Camera, It takes great pictures now.
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Will give you some amazing picture quality compared to before.
Be happy you have a camera on your phone. I remember when all there was were big block bag phones
I have noticed each phone I have had is different based on the lighting conditions. Some cameras do better indoors some outdoors. Its all based on the lighting conditions(incadescent, flourescent). The kaiser cameras work best in natural light. Outdoors the camera will hardly blur, take it indoors and it blurs really bad.
thanks fot the tip
I have triying it and it was very usefull, it really works
fireblade63 said:
In order to have a faster responding camera, do the following:
Turn on your camera
Press the power button to switch the device to standby mode
wait for 5 seconds
Switch on
You will have the camera much faster
Note that you are to turn off the key lock app if you have it on in order to have this working
HOPING FOR FULL DRIVERS.....NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
AWAITING THE XPERIA
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I can't believe it. This workaround really works!
thanks for the advice
Hey, i just bought the Z3 Compact The phone itself is very good, EXCEPT The camera! 20 mpx of what? The camera is so blurry and noisy. And you can see the pixels easy. This is so TERRIBLE i have to ask if there is anything wrong with it? I have had Android since it came out. This results are worse than what my HTC Magic did. A phone from 2008-09. I have tried different settings, no luck. Been like this from day one. So is there something wrong, or is this suppose to be the 20mpx camera? ...
Some examples, first pic is taken in daylight. You can see at the second is in darkness (Very noisy!) Front camera is even worse!!
Please get some help! I like the phone, but if the camera is suppose to be like this i'm switching it out immediately!
I'm new to Z3c too, my camera sucks in the first shots as well, but, so did my sister's, until suddenly, it got all well. I don't know how.
Well said about camera suddenly getting good.
My recommendation is don't use superior auto. Launch your camera from a shortcut and set it to manual and from that moment on it will always launch in manual mode, but not when you launch it with shutter key.
Once in manual mode, try my settings:
Exposure: one or two bars below value of 0
WB: auto
Resolution: 15,5 mpx
Focus mode: multiple autofocus (i think that's what it's called in english)
ISO: This is the most important setting. You can set it to 100 or even 50 to avoid noise and artifacts caused by heavy postprocessing by software. But, the lower the iso, darker the image will be. So on a sunny day it can be 50 od 100, On a cloudy day, a bit higher and in night photos 800.
Metering: multiple
Focusing: When you want to take photo, put object you want to take photo of in the middle and half press shutter button. When squares turn blue on places you want focused, keep shutter half pressed and you can then move your phone to left, right, up or down and not losing focus. That way you make your composition. When you think you have your scene set up, finally press the button all the way.
Once you set it up every time you launch camera by a shortcut it will launch in manual mode with settings remembered from last time you used camera so no need to fiddle with settings every time. Camera widget is very useful.
Avoid superior auto unless you're in complete darkness because in that case heavy postprocessing and very high iso that it always uses have to be made.
Superior auto uses very high iso values when not needed. High iso causes much noise on the photos, and sony software removes that noise and does it in a not so good way. That results in artifacts and 'flat' photos.
It sounds complicated, but it really isn't. I have SLR camera experience so it's natural to me. Once you practice half pressing, composition making and then taking photo people will wonder how can you make such photos. It's knowledge that you'll be able to use always in all cameras, phones and whatever.
I hope this helps and let me know if it does. I'm thinking about writing a camera tutorial with samples because not many people use the potential of it.
See my samples, they're only resized:
http://i.imgur.com/YF2fU8l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0cP9SiO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1EFhzze.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fvWzbg1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ptrBLVu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QbKBrdq.jpg
Well said ... The tutrial is good ... N m setting up these setting. It would be better to open a thread with tutrial about the camera setting n people help each other how we could get the good pictures. Thanks very much. :thumbup:
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Did you unlock your bootloader?
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Did you unlock your bootloader?
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lstic said:
Well said about camera suddenly getting good.
My recommendation is don't use superior auto. Launch your camera from a shortcut and set it to manual and from that moment on it will always launch in manual mode, but not when you launch it with shutter key.
Once in manual mode, try my settings:
Exposure: one or two bars below value of 0
WB: auto
Resolution: 15,5 mpx
Focus mode: multiple autofocus (i think that's what it's called in english)
ISO: This is the most important setting. You can set it to 100 or even 50 to avoid noise and artifacts caused by heavy postprocessing by software. But, the lower the iso, darker the image will be. So on a sunny day it can be 50 od 100, On a cloudy day, a bit higher and in night photos 800.
Metering: multiple
Focusing: When you want to take photo, put object you want to take photo of in the middle and half press shutter button. When squares turn blue on places you want focused, keep shutter half pressed and you can then move your phone to left, right, up or down and not losing focus. That way you make your composition. When you think you have your scene set up, finally press the button all the way.
Once you set it up every time you launch camera by a shortcut it will launch in manual mode with settings remembered from last time you used camera so no need to fiddle with settings every time. Camera widget is very useful.
Avoid superior auto unless you're in complete darkness because in that case heavy postprocessing and very high iso that it always uses have to be made.
Superior auto uses very high iso values when not needed. High iso causes much noise on the photos, and sony software removes that noise and does it in a not so good way. That results in artifacts and 'flat' photos.
It sounds complicated, but it really isn't. I have SLR camera experience so it's natural to me. Once you practice half pressing, composition making and then taking photo people will wonder how can you make such photos. It's knowledge that you'll be able to use always in all cameras, phones and whatever.
I hope this helps and let me know if it does. I'm thinking about writing a camera tutorial with samples because not many people use the potential of it.
See my samples, they're only resized:
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Thank you for a good answer. Some of the shots is amazing! Still, i can see them getting a little blurry. Also i think that if you can't choose auto and take decent photo when you are in a hurry it's actually a struggle. If you always have to set your ISO etc. Then i would rather bring my DSLR with me instead! Here are some examples from my previous phone. The S3. I set HDR on. Nothing more! Nice and easy.
I'm not saying this shots is amazing, but i just found it to be better overall than the Compact. This also have 12mpx less! Newer Samsungs have a pretty decent camera! So my questions is now, what other phone would you guys recommend? I was quite happy with my Samsung til it got slow and the battery drained out easily. I'm also happy with Sony, apart from the camera.
It's not unlocked.
Have you tried to use Google Camera? I think these crappy denoising algorithms won't be used in it. It lacks advanced options but if you just want to make nice photos with 'auto' i think it might be good enough.
Manual mode, much better photos than superior auto.
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Thank you for a good answer. Some of the shots is amazing! Still, i can see them getting a little blurry. Also i think that if you can't choose auto and take decent photo when you are in a hurry it's actually a struggle. If you always have to set your ISO etc. Then i would rather bring my DSLR with me instead! Here are some examples from my previous phone. The S3. I set HDR on. Nothing more! Nice and easy.
I'm not saying this shots is amazing, but i just found it to be better overall than the Compact. This also have 12mpx less! Newer Samsungs have a pretty decent camera! So my questions is now, what other phone would you guys recommend? I was quite happy with my Samsung til it got slow and the battery drained out easily. I'm also happy with Sony, apart from the camera.
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Well, it's true that auto mode is not good. I had an Xperia P before this one and never had any issues with the camera. It had 8 mpx of amazing quality camera on the daylight at least.
But as I said, once you set your manual mode, you almost never have to fiddle around with it. At least I don't. I set iso to 100 and when it's daylight i start camera by shortcut, and on night time i start it by shutter key.
Anyway, I keep my fingers crossed that lollipop will fix all that, because it's software issue only if you ask me.
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Well, it's true that auto mode is not good. I had an Xperia P before this one and never had any issues with the camera. It had 8 mpx of amazing quality camera on the daylight at least.
But as I said, once you set your manual mode, you almost never have to fiddle around with it. At least I don't. I set iso to 100 and when it's daylight i start camera by shortcut, and on night time i start it by shutter key.
Anyway, I keep my fingers crossed that lollipop will fix all that, because it's software issue only if you ask me.
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Tried today with your settings. Works better, so thanks! Still very blurry, but not as bad like it was. Why haven't anyone mentioned something about the camera before? Since allot of you are experiencing it? Hope Sony will release an update soon because this isn't OK at all! The colors and details are pretty decent. It just becomes blurry and not sharp enough. and why can't we turn on HDR?
Everybody has mentioned it. It's the third most talked about thing with this phone after root and battery.
Apart from the low light algorithms the camera is pretty ****.
Like the others I hope L will fix it. Until then i just use camera fv5. It even uses the hardware button so it's cool. And much better pics
HDR only works in 8MPx mode. Can't turn in on in 15.5/20MPx mode. And it's not THAT great actually. Wise exposure helps more than the HDR.
Also, you could maybe try the Camera FV-5, which has a ton of settings and also RAW capturing abilities, if you'd like to postprocess the images on your own. But I doubt anyone is doing this and taking it somehow seriously.
You have to play around a lot with the camera, bringing down exposure as suggested is a great start. I left the size at 8MPx, and also played around with some scenes (useful in the night) or lowlight, you sacrify motion blur from long exposure time for more noise, but that's how it works in photography.
The camera is not bad, you just need to be patient with it, if you'd like to quickly snap perfect shots, this may not be the perfect device, however, if you use the camera wisely, it can deliver stunning photos for large prints.
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Tried today with your settings. Works better, so thanks! Still very blurry, but not as bad like it was. Why haven't anyone mentioned something about the camera before? Since allot of you are experiencing it? Hope Sony will release an update soon because this isn't OK at all! The colors and details are pretty decent. It just becomes blurry and not sharp enough. and why can't we turn on HDR?
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The pictures you posted before from the S3 really aren't better then the Z3C. Why no mentioned anything about the camera before? I'd relay the question back at you, why haven't you looked up the forum, because there are really PLENTY of topics regarding the camera. So the only thing I can conclude is that you didn't even check the forum. Even the blurry pictures have been mentioned before. Like someone above mentioned, try Camera FV-5 or any other ap. I use Camera FV-5 myself and I'm really happy with it, even with an unlocked BL. Check out the topic I created (in my signature) and you'll find plenty of pictures from the phone. It can really make some great pictures, but as you said before when you don't have a lot of time to make a picture, to change settings it can really be a bich to work with.
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HDR only works in 8MPx mode. Can't turn in on in 15.5/20MPx mode. And it's not THAT great actually. Wise exposure helps more than the HDR.
Also, you could maybe try the Camera FV-5, which has a ton of settings and also RAW capturing abilities, if you'd like to postprocess the images on your own. But I doubt anyone is doing this and taking it somehow seriously.
You have to play around a lot with the camera, bringing down exposure as suggested is a great start. I left the size at 8MPx, and also played around with some scenes (useful in the night) or lowlight, you sacrify motion blur from long exposure time for more noise, but that's how it works in photography.
The camera is not bad, you just need to be patient with it, if you'd like to quickly snap perfect shots, this may not be the perfect device, however, if you use the camera wisely, it can deliver stunning photos for large prints.
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Ok, i actually just want something nice and easy. When i take pictures with my phone i don't want to try a bunch of settings for the camera to take a decent shot. and doing this in sunlight for example when you can't see the screen at all? Instead of just pressing the camera button..Actually the superior Auto is so bad i can't even describe it. I got some OK settings now, but far from good. Of course if you play around with the settings any camera can be good, the thing that you have to do that tells me it's rubbish! Then what's the point? I could rather bring my DSLR. I would be able to take better pictures, without a hassle. For me a good camera is very important, that's one of the reason i brought it. And can you really defend a 20mpx camera from 2014 that can't even take a clear shot on a sunny day with perfect light in Auto mode?
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The pictures you posted before from the S3 really aren't better then the Z3C. Why no mentioned anything about the camera before? I'd relay the question back at you, why haven't you looked up the forum, because there are really PLENTY of topics regarding the camera. So the only thing I can conclude is that you didn't even check the forum. Even the blurry pictures have been mentioned before. Like someone above mentioned, try Camera FV-5 or any other ap. I use Camera FV-5 myself and I'm really happy with it, even with an unlocked BL. Check out the topic I created (in my signature) and you'll find plenty of pictures from the phone. It can really make some great pictures, but as you said before when you don't have a lot of time to make a picture, to change settings it can really be a bich to work with.
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I have actually seen your photos, i did go through allot of camera samples before i brought it. Little did i know that the camera was useless in auto mode. I know the shots with my Samsung isn't that good but still, this is shot in Auto mode. The first picture has HDR but nothing more. If you compare that to what i did with my Sony it's WAY better. Because as i said, if i want to take some amazing shots i will use my DSLR instead. And when i'm not having it on me i want a decent photo, but i just can't get that with the Compact.
And the S3 has 8mpx, the Compact got 20.
I changed the settings on my Compact, still blurry and un-sharp.
saab90095 said:
I have actually seen your photos, i did go through allot of camera samples before i brought it. Little did i know that the camera was useless in auto mode. I know the shots with my Samsung isn't that good but still, this is shot in Auto mode. The first picture has HDR but nothing more. If you compare that to what i did with my Sony it's WAY better. Because as i said, if i want to take some amazing shots i will use my DSLR instead. And when i'm not having it on me i want a decent photo, but i just can't get that with the Compact.
And the S3 has 8mpx, the Compact got 20.
I changed the settings on my Compact, still blurry and un-sharp.
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Sorry to say, but you've most obviously been too lazy to use the search function and you have even ignored the automatic search results while writing the title of this thread. Having said that, in the beginning you wrote about picture noise and that they come out blurred. Ok, but now you claim they're even unsharp. Sorry, that's definitely not a problem of the phone, at least you'd have the first sample with such an issue...
Regardless, please refrain from cluttering the forum by opening threads on topics that are already being *extensively* discussed. Thanks.
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wayne_sk said:
The camera is not bad, you just need to be patient with it, if you'd like to quickly snap perfect shots, this may not be the perfect device, however, if you use the camera wisely, it can deliver stunning photos for large prints.
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Definitely depends what you are photographing. At 20MP I've taken some impressive photos, for sure, but under closer scrutiny on a large monitor they don't look quite as good, and they fall apart almost instantly when post-processed. Sony's sharpening algorithms are far too aggressive so any high-contrast edges look almost posterized. Other aspects of jpeg processing also leave a lot to be desired, even at low ISO. In other words, Sony took a decent sensor and only lets us get mediocre results.
And, yes, auto mode is an absolute joke. I estimate about one in ten photos I've taken in auto are useable (many of them only after slapping on Instagram filters). I just wish I could start in manual using the shutter button. Still, I'm not expecting output from a camera phone to come anywhere close to a good compact camera let alone a DSLR, so in that sense I'm a little less miffed. But reliable auto mode is essential IMO since that's always gonna be the most used mode for quick Facebook/Twitter/Instagram update snaps, which is how 99% of people use camera phones. Epic fail from Sony on that count.
I am most annoyed at all the clueless tech reviewers who last fall declared this to be the best phone camera, on a par or better than the iPhone and S5. It's not. Not even close.
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I am most annoyed at all the clueless tech reviewers who last fall declared this to be the best phone camera, on a par or better than the iPhone and S5. It's not. Not even close.
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This. A million times this. How on earth did initial reviewers rave about the camera? My experience of its performance closely mirrors your own. Only a small percentage of all photos come out looking ok, even though I've messed around with wb, iso settings etc.
Same here, got my z3c yesterday and I am quite disappointed with camery quality. Images become really blurry, especially on a front facing camera. It is clear to me, that it's a software issue, because when I look at the screenm picture looks OK. But when the photo is shot, it becames blurry after pocessing. I used to have iPhone 5s before and it did amazing photos compared to sony's device.
And I also agree with an opinion that most people don't want to mess with camera settings on a mobile phone. We just want to quickly take a decent photo in an auto mode...
I know I could turn off the HDR settings. However, I normally like it. The Note 20 I had was fine, but the colors on the S21 are sooo amplified that everything looks like it was taken with a bad filter. Nearly every photo is complete crap. Video is fine, just the pics are an issue. I usually don't have the scene optimizer on. Anyone know of other fixes? I saw that the May update includes something for the camera, but I have no idea what. Does anyone know if it addresses this issue? Thanks!
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I know I could turn off the HDR settings. However, I normally like it. The Note 20 I had was fine, but the colors on the S21 are sooo amplified that everything looks like it was taken with a bad filter. Nearly every photo is complete crap. Video is fine, just the pics are an issue. I usually don't have the scene optimizer on. Anyone know of other fixes? I saw that the May update includes something for the camera, but I have no idea what. Does anyone know if it addresses this issue? Thanks!
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Major issue I have is with skin tones. Before I take the pic, it looks detailed and after it processes it, it turns into a beauty filter mode, smoothing everything and killing details. I figured mine was HK variant so it's doing what people like there, but on my wife's Note 20U (again, HK variant) it doesn't have that drastic issue.
I got the May update, and it hasn't resolved it. Anything even slightly moving will crush all details in indoor light.
I always use Gcam...and it's by far the best alternative to anything apart from Pixel phones, for stills. Video is always stock.
Did you click the magic wand and turn off the filters?
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Did you click the magic wand and turn off the filters?
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Yes, there are no filters on.
These always interest me. It's like we all have different phones....or maybe it's preferences.
I have none of these 'issues'. The skin tones are something I've really appreciated per past Samsung processing. Very natural finally. Mine has seemed good out of the box
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I know I could turn off the HDR settings. However, I normally like it. The Note 20 I had was fine, but the colors on the S21 are sooo amplified that everything looks like it was taken with a bad filter. Nearly every photo is complete crap. Video is fine, just the pics are an issue. I usually don't have the scene optimizer on. Anyone know of other fixes? I saw that the May update includes something for the camera, but I have no idea what. Does anyone know if it addresses this issue? Thanks!
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Never ran into the "issue" you're talking about. Nearly every photo I take on this phone is a keeper.
If you're seriously saying the 'nearly every photo is complete crap', then I guess your preference for photos is something very different from the average joe.
If I were you, I would first check with other people around me who have the same phone and compare cameras to confirm that my phone didn't have an issue.
If only your phone takes crappy pics and theirs are fine, contact Samsung for a warranty replacement/repair.
However, if you think even their S21U photos are crap, then you can either shoot in pro mode and do post-processing to tune images to your liking or just change to some other phone. I don't think the camera on this phone will improve very much with future software updates, if the current level is "crap" in your opinion.
Personally, I have nothing that needs "fixing". It's a great camera in my opinion.
Just to be clear, I'm not bashing on you - you gave your opinion and I gave mine. We don't have to agree. But I'm genuinely trying to help.
I would honestly consider trying out the comparison test with a few mates to figure out if something's wrong with your device.