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Hello iam from the Netherlands and new on this forum.
Looking for somebody who like to help me with a problem. I bought one week ago an Android radio navigatie carkit 6,2 inch A9 cortex processor QUAD CORE 1.6 Ghz - wifi -android 5.1.1 Lollipop - 16GB
w-ww.caraudioexpert.nl/nissan-qashqai-juke-note-radio-navigatie-carkit-quadcore-wifi-android-5.1
MTCD_KGL_V1.92a_2 Oct 13 2016 10:49:02 Android-versie? 5.1.1 Kernel-versie? 3.0.101
I would like to know if this system is good enough to install Android Auto?
Because in the Netherlands playstore is not supporting Android Auto. I can not install this offcially. Any one who like to help me with an working APK file? Because what I downloaded is not working?
Looking forward to get some help
Oxalex said:
Hello iam from the Netherlands and new on this forum.
Looking for somebody who like to help me with a problem. I bought one week ago an Android radio navigatie carkit 6,2 inch A9 cortex processor QUAD CORE 1.6 Ghz - wifi -android 5.1.1 Lollipop - 16GB
w-ww.caraudioexpert.nl/nissan-qashqai-juke-note-radio-navigatie-carkit-quadcore-wifi-android-5.1
MTCD_KGL_V1.92a_2 Oct 13 2016 10:49:02 Android-versie? 5.1.1 Kernel-versie? 3.0.101
I would like to know if this system is good enough to install Android Auto?
Because in the Netherlands playstore is not supporting Android Auto. I can not install this offcially. Any one who like to help me with an working APK file? Because what I downloaded is not working?
Looking forward to get some help
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Android Auto will not work on your headunit.
However, you CAN use Android Auto the way it is supposed to work: install it on your phone and connect the phone to the unit using Easy Connect.
Thanks
m00n61 said:
Android Auto will not work on your headunit.
However, you CAN use Android Auto the way it is supposed to work: install it on your phone and connect the phone to the unit using Easy Connect.
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Did I bought the right headunit? Because i thought this unit is self supporting.
Do you have a link or right APK file of Android Auto because i cannot find a official version?
Oxalex said:
Did I bought the right headunit? Because i thought this unit is self supporting.
Do you have a link or right APK file of Android Auto because i cannot find a official version?
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Android Auto is not meant to be run on the head unit. ANY head unit. It always runs on the phone.
You can download it from here:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-auto/android-auto-2-0-6427-release/
Make sure you get the right version for your processor
Looking for a good handsfree solution
m00n61 said:
Android Auto is not meant to be run on the head unit. ANY head unit. It always runs on the phone.
You can download it from here:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-auto/android-auto-2-0-6427-release/
Make sure you get the right version for your processor
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I got this app installed as working version. Thanks I thougt Android Auto will be the perfect solution between my Headunit and Asus Dual sim Zenfone Z00AD
My experience is that Android Auto is not nice to work with I found out. Searching contacts is not good working aswell voice control. It is also not posible to control more phone apps.
Does i do something wrong?
I am looking for a good handsfree solution so i cann easily use de apps and functions on my phone with the head unit I bought.
Is there maybe a list with "Best car apps". So i can setup the best and safest way to drive my car and control my mobile phone on a friendly way?
Looking forward for some help
Oxalex said:
I got this app installed as working version. Thanks I thougt Android Auto will be the perfect solution between my Headunit and Asus Dual sim Zenfone Z00AD
My experience is that Android Auto is not nice to work with I found out. Searching contacts is not good working aswell voice control. It is also not posible to control more phone apps.
Does i do something wrong?
I am looking for a good handsfree solution so i cann easily use de apps and functions on my phone with the head unit I bought.
Is there maybe a list with "Best car apps". So i can setup the best and safest way to drive my car and control my mobile phone on a friendly way?
Looking forward for some help
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Easy Connect is the best solution for mirroring your phone and it's included by default in factory ROMs.
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Easy Connect is the best solution for mirroring your phone and it's included by default in factory ROMs.
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Thanks for your answer.
But this is not easy to connect with.
When I get in the car, I activate first my phone Bluetooth and Hotspot and the Unit headset. Then every time he is asking for a USB connection? This setup takes long!
After he is making connection I have an Mirror and I can take out the USB and it's working. When I leave the car and i come back I have to do the setup again? This is not handy for short driving.
Other quistion; With mirroring only headup is possible and no landscape, so everything is smaller then on the phone and when you drive this is also not save to use.
Some body who can help me further?
Ive just bought a brand new Mate 10 which came with EMUI 8.0.0 (Android Oreo 8.0). Everything is great except that when I plug the phone into my car Android Auto starts on the phone (Black AA Screen) and the HU starts to switch to AA but all I get is a black screen. Whats even more interesting is that AA seems to be alive behind it all as if I touch the screen, things happen, eg if I press the hardware phone button and then touch the screen, it will call someone. If I hold the hardware phone button down I can issue voice commands.
Any idea's how I can get my HU screen to work?
I am using a Xiaomi A1 running Android8.0 and also have an Opel Astra K - with no AA-problems!
Try to check your cable, or replace your cable to the original one ...
Tiemichael said:
I am using a Xiaomi A1 running Android8.0 and also have an Opel Astra K - with no AA-problems!
Try to check your cable, or replace your cable to the original one ...
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Yep, using the supplied cable. Tried 2 others as well. Same behaviour.
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Poxy lame response from. Huawei:
"Thank you very much for contacting Huawei and we are truly sorry for the inconvenience caused.
With regards to your inquiry, we would like to inform you that Huawei is currently working with Google to fix this problem. Please look out for new updates for your phone system and Android Auto, and install the updates when possible. It is recommended that you wait for new updates in which the problem is fixed."
So 12 months after the issue was reported with Android 6 devices, it's still happening with Android 8. So #[email protected]&ing lame.
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It's really incredible that this issue has not been fixed yet. I have issues too with my Huawei Mate 10 Pro and Android Auto. It's supposed to be a "flagship" device and it doesn't work with Android Auto. Wtf?
I was thinking about to get a Huawei mate 10 pro.
Googled android Auto and USB-C.
No thanks Looks I like I will look for an old USB phone.
Qefx said:
I was thinking about to get a Huawei mate 10 pro.
Googled android Auto and USB-C.
No thanks Looks I like I will look for an old USB phone.
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DOnt be put off by USB-C. Its purely a Huawei issue. Point in case, my new Nokia 8 works great.
I dont think is the phone problem in your case it might be the AA car board compatibility! I have Mate 10 pro and honda civic 2018 and AA works with no issue.! I am a happy Huawei AA user: v well connectivity BT phone, media and charging in the same time of usingAA.
crislleen said:
I dont think is the phone problem in your case it might be the AA car board compatibility! I have Mate 10 pro and honda civic 2018 and AA works with no issue
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Car works perfectly with my Oppo R7sf and Nokia 8. It's a phone issue.
that might be the car bord version of software and phone system... as i explained I do have honda civic 2018 with os 4.2.2 and my mate 10 pro emui 8.0.0
crislleen said:
that might be the car bord version of software and phone system... as i explained I do have honda civic 2018 with os 4.2.2 and my mate 10 pro emui 8.0.0
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Could be. But it's clearly capable of running with Android 7(Oppo) and 8 and 8.1 phones (Nokia) so whose the best candidate?
i dont have an answer but to say i was really sceptical when i purchase my car not long ago reading all was post by huawei AA compatibility..... it has nothing to do with Huawei OS system.... i am the one using both
crislleen said:
i dont have an answer but to say i was really sceptical when i purchase my car not long ago reading all was post by huawei AA compatibility..... it has nothing to do with Huawei OS system.... i am the one using both
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So maybe it's just that EMUI has a fix to work with the hardware you have. So far, Ive seen way to many people say their Huawei DOESNT work. Way that don't than do.
drwharris said:
So maybe it's just that EMUI has a fix to work with the hardware you have. So far, Ive seen way to many people say their Huawei DOESNT work. Way that don't than do.
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hardware always is controled by a firmware which is the os of the car board
crislleen said:
hardware always is controled by a firmware which is the os of the car board
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Ahh yep...well aware of that. But as I said, everyone else seems to be able to deal with what is there. If all you want to be is a fanboi and tout that you one setup works, that's great. This thread is here to warn people of the ONGOING issue Huawei have with their 2nd rate bloatware OS.
I've got also a Opel Astra K and have several issues with the Mate 10 Pro, connected with the OEM cable..
Despite a factory reset (I originally cloned data from my Honor 7 with Phone Clone app), i have sometimes soft resets when I connect the phone to my car, with a message "No compatible application.. ".
Some other times, I've got a black screen, the only way to play music is to select USB as source on IntelliLink (Opel infotainment).
Phone doesen't work correctly : no notification on car display when receiving or making a call
Waze not working at all.
Never had this issues with my Honor 7. Outside this I'm satisfied with my phone, but I would like to have Android Auto running well....
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I've got also a Opel Astra K and have several issues with the Mate 10 Pro, connected with the OEM cable..
Some other times, I've got a black screen, the only way to play music is to select USB as source on IntelliLink (Opel infotainment).
Phone doesen't work correctly : no notification on car display when receiving or making a call
Waze not working at all.
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I have also the Opel astra k. Despite waze not working and the phone not showing up while calling. I have no issue.
But I have a new phone and the big screen of intellilink (r900 I think?)
Never drove long though. Today I will drive for 2 or three hours. Let's that there is no crash!
The bugs are annoying. But I don't care.
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I have also the Opel astra k. Despite waze not working and the phone not showing up while calling. I have no issue.
But I have a new phone and the big screen of intellilink (r900 I think?)
Never drove long though. Today I will drive for 2 or three hours. Let's that there is no crash!
The bugs are annoying. But I don't care.
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I have the "basic" Intellilink (7 inch display). Maintenance of my Astra is programmed for next Thursday, I'll ask my dealer if there is any update of Opel software
Same exact problem with Opel Astra K and Huawei Mate 10 Pro, but problem got worse when I went to update the software to the Opel service.
Had R 4.0 IntelliLink version 1.12.5.2 for 1,5 year and after updating it about 2 weeks ago, it's version is IP34.5.1 (1.34.5.6). Also HW version is E2.
Before the update I had the random black screen on android auto, about 1 out of 4 times but it was working without issues 3 out of 4 times. After the update..... I ALWAYS get black screen So, the problem got worst for some reason.
So, I completely factory reset both the phone and R 4.0 IntelliLink... unfortunately same issue with black screen. I also tried both original cable and an SBS type C cable that used to work before the update... nothing again..
I also have a Lenovo Phab that works without any issue on Android Auto! Also iPhone with CarPlay works very nice and always as well!
Tried everything I found on the web regarding dev mode etc but nothing helped. The screen remains black, understands the touch and in order for the screen to show R 4.0 IntelliLink default icons, I remove the key, open the door, lock the car and after 2 minutes I unlock the car, put the key on the ignition and everything is back to normal.
Really don't know why exactly the problem got worse, although I read around the web that in order for Android Auto to work on R 4.0 IntelliLink EVERY TIME, you simply have to update the software on the OPEL service.
slashamb said:
Same exact problem with Opel Astra K and Huawei Mate 10 Pro, but problem got worse when I went to update the software to the Opel service.
Had R 4.0 IntelliLink version 1.12.5.2 for 1,5 year and after updating it about 2 weeks ago, it's version is IP34.5.1 (1.34.5.6). Also HW version is E2.
Before the update I had the random black screen on android auto, about 1 out of 4 times but it was working without issues 3 out of 4 times. After the update..... I ALWAYS get black screen So, the problem got worst for some reason.
So, I completely factory reset both the phone and R 4.0 IntelliLink... unfortunately same issue with black screen. I also tried both original cable and an SBS type C cable that used to work before the update... nothing again..
I also have a Lenovo Phab that works without any issue on Android Auto! Also iPhone with CarPlay works very nice and always as well!
Tried everything I found on the web regarding dev mode etc but nothing helped. The screen remains black, understands the touch and in order for the screen to show R 4.0 IntelliLink default icons, I remove the key, open the door, lock the car and after 2 minutes I unlock the car, put the key on the ignition and everything is back to normal.
Really don't know why exactly the problem got worse, although I read around the web that in order for Android Auto to work on R 4.0 IntelliLink EVERY TIME, you simply have to update the software on the OPEL service.
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Personally I think it's the other way around. I think EMUI can't work with newer HU software.
Is there someone who could test the compatibility of the P20 Pro extensively with Android Auto? I suspect the general incompatibility (waze, Google music, in call screen,...) of the Mate 10 Pro is still not solved and till now not one review pays attention to this glaring issue. Curious if Huawei has solved this problem with this new phone.
More info on https://www.facebook.com/huaweinotcompatiblewithandroidauto
Interesting. I'll listen here before buying, because I use Android Auto quite a bit, so if it doesn't work it's a no go for me.
Unfortunately the first feedback reports the same incompatibility as with the Mate 10 Pro.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=204982796762460&id=187291041864969
I'm having issues connecting the phone to the head unit now with the android 8.1. It is telling me that there is a error code of communication error 6
This is diabolical, for such a basic functionality!!!
I am awaiting delivery of my P20 Pro, and was literally 5 minutes away from ordering an Android Auto headunit!
You have just saved me a lot of money... thanks!
Hopefully more people on here will be able to test.
For me, the only thing that doesn't work is Play Music. The progress bar moves but there's no sound. BBC iPlayer Radio and TuneIn Radio both work fine. No problems with Maps and phone.
It's poor at best, if you get it working leave it and don't touch anything.
Had a trip in partners Ford Focus - Sync 3 head unit, works fine with Pixel 2XL/XZ1 Compact but this just either didn't want to play anything or when attempting to read a message would give the error "voice commands not available at the moment" same when attempting to use voice commands as well. Once I did get it playing music and maps I just left it as I didn't want to break anything but still no voice commands available.
Looks like Google will be making Android Auto fully compatible with the P20 Pro. Looks like our phone is a big enough launch from Huawei to attract attention from them.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/android-auto-wireless-3452655
I'm using a P20 Pro. I have been using android auto in my golf now and everything seems to work fine. The only issues I am having are that I can make calls, but I can't see the phone call on the screen which means I have to use the steering wheel to hangup. When someone rings me I can't see it on my. Infotainment screen. Also can't see all of my contacts. Only my most recent. Hopefully there is a fix coming for this
WDawn said:
Is there someone who could test the compatibility of the P20 Pro extensively with Android Auto? I suspect the general incompatibility (waze, Google music, in call screen,...) of the Mate 10 Pro is still not solved and till now not one review pays attention to this glaring issue. Curious if Huawei has solved this problem with this new phone.
More info on https://www.facebook.com/huaweinotcompatiblewithandroidauto
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Just received my P20 Pro yesterday, and just like my all previous Huawei phones (P9, P10, Mate 10 Pro) - it works with AA fine enough (only issue - call screen is not being shown).
It's barely usable...
Well it's my first Huawei phone (coming from an S8) and I'm a big fan of AA probably because of Waze...
Here are my remarks:
- Google Maps works from time to time
- Waze doesn't work at all, I have a black screen
- and for the audio it's impossible to switch between the apps and there's no audio
So unless you're using Google Maps extensively, I don't see why you'd use the P20 Pro with AA.
For those who are thinking how it was with an S8, well it was kind of a all or nothing experience. I've had periods where the phone wouldn't connect to AA and suddenly start working again.
I have also noticed that the cable quality is very important.
Android auto working fine for me. Only issue is the phone charges very slowly when connected. My one plus used to charge much quicker when connected to car head unit
Hello I've P20 and vw sportvan, no map (waze or Google maps)... I've black screen. No sound when I want to use Google music... I hope Huawei make something to solve this....
I have AA in a Pioneer headunit, working with a P20 Pro, I get audio issues with Google Play Music, waze works fine...
Got a P20 Pro and Android auto is working perfect in my Volkswagen Passat GTE. Been using it daily and everything works fine for me including Waze and Spotify
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Pioneer X8800BT headunit worked flawlessly with Sony Xperia Z5 Premium so it's not the headunit.
Waze worked for a hour or so with audio then this became a black screen. Google play music "plays" but no sound comes out. In the end I had to unplug the phone from headunit (which I paid good money for) and use the unit as a dumb bluetooth speaker while using Waze directly off the phone...
I think I'll be returning it and getting a Pixel 2 XL unless someone can give me hope that there is work being done to solve this? I don't want to root it just yet because my credit card / banking apps stop working.
Shame as it's an otherwise excellent phone - but this is a deal breaker for me.
From my point of view is essential to have a quality USB cable. Everything (Waze, Google maps, call screen) works seemly with original cable delivered with charger. With another cable work call screen only, Waze and Google maps shows black screen. With cheap USB cabel my mobil phone (Huawei P20 PRO) doesnt connect to car (Hyundai i30 2018).
yesterday an AA update hit the play store. anyone tried after that?
snudel said:
yesterday an AA update hit the play store. anyone tried after that?
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Yes, no substantial changes...
This thread is dedicated for AAWireless users.
AAWireless is a device which allows you to transform your existing wired Android Auto compatible unit into a Wireless Android Auto unit.
General chat, experience sharing and community support should be expected as well as support from the developers of the product: @Snirpo and myself.
Hi, I am an AAWireless beta tester and have been helping test the device.
I have four phones that I use with AAWireless.
Samsung Galaxy S20 5G [Android 11]
Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G [Android 11]
Moto G Power (2020) [Android 10]
LG Q7+ [Android 9]
I have a 2020 Hyundai Palisade with the 10.25 inch head unit.
I may be able to help with questions that you may have here.
LeRoy
I'm also an AAWireless beta tester;
I've tested Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Lite;
With my Kia Rio from 2017
Ou trouver AAWireless à l'achat hors du site Indiegogo?
jmnati said:
Ou trouver AAWireless à l'achat hors du site Indiegogo?
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En anglais, si tu plait.
Today I received AAWireless box. It works flawlessly on Lenovo P2 with Android 11 and with 9.2″ screen MIB2.5 unit in VW Passat B8.
Thank you very much Emil and Chiel !
osm0sis said:
En anglais, si tu plait.
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Where can I buy AAWireless so that I can become a user? Indiegogo sold out
I got it mine today and except the issue with VPN (which is btw linked to Android auto and not to aawireless), it works flawlessly with no issue at all. Wondering if there's a way to create a sort of tunnel for AA on the VPN but I already wrote to my VPN service provider.
Awesome work Emil and the whole team there!
I received my device today and it worked out of the box! I love it!
I only had one time the problem, that my headunit suddenly completly restarted. I dont know why (maybe the Tap limitation option? I have this disabled via AA AIO Tweaker and in the AAWireless options).
I will report if this happens again.
I wonder if the device records some diagnostics data and send it automaticly to the developers for troubleshooting.
Headunit: Seat MIB2Std + Nav (5QA035846B)
Smartphone: Oneplus 8T (Android 11)
I got the dongle today. While my phone shows that it is connected to Android Auto, the grass unit of my car doesn't do anything (as in the Android Auto launcher doesn't show)
Tried all combinations of USB mode and Pass-through, clearing data of Android Auto app (Pass-through option made the dongle bootloop), unpairing phone from head unit via Bluetooth. No luck.
Phone is Pixel 4
Car is Nissan Qashqai.
jasalta387 said:
I got the dongle today. While my phone shows that it is connected to Android Auto, the grass unit of my car doesn't do anything (as in the Android Auto launcher doesn't show)
Tried all combinations of USB mode and Pass-through, clearing data of Android Auto app (Pass-through option made the dongle bootloop), unpairing phone from head unit via Bluetooth. No luck.
Phone is Pixel 4
Car is Nissan Qashqai.
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Do try a different USB cable as well please.
HofaTheRipper said:
I received my device today and it worked out of the box! I love it!
I only had one time the problem, that my headunit suddenly completly restarted. I dont know why (maybe the Tap limitation option? I have this disabled via AA AIO Tweaker and in the AAWireless options).
I will report if this happens again.
I wonder if the device records some diagnostics data and send it automaticly to the developers for troubleshooting.
Headunit: Seat MIB2Std + Nav (5QA035846B)
Smartphone: Oneplus 8T (Android 11)
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Headunit restarting problem happend 2 times in 15 minutes again.
@Emil Borconi, Thank You for all the great work and for starting up this thread so that we can chat, it's much better than trying to do this over the Comments section on Indiegogo.
Hi Everyone, I'm in the waiting queue for my AAWireless, but I am currently running AAGateway on a rooted cell phone and it is working beautifully (with the occasional hiccup). I anticipate that AAWireless will solve the minor, sporadic issues I see with AAGateway.
I received mine couple days ago aswell.
It worked right of the box with zero issues.
The connection is fast and stable.
This is with Pixel 5 and 2017 VW Passat B8 with discover media (MIB2).
Hello, i got Mine some days ago and i am excited Like Most Other Users.
I have no Problems and the Connection is very fast and stable.
Never ever an USB cable.
Thank you for the good Work.
My configuration:
Hyundai i30 pde 2019 with Touch Display
Pixel 5 with Android 11 (Not rooted)
tallleroy said:
Hi, I am an AAWireless beta tester and have been helping test the device.
I have four phones that I use with AAWireless.
Samsung Galaxy S20 5G [Android 11]
Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G [Android 11]
Moto G Power (2020) [Android 10]
LG Q7+ [Android 9]
I have a 2020 Hyundai Palisade with the 10.25 inch head unit.
I may be able to help with questions that you may have here.
LeRoy
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Hi
I also got the box and it works perfectly with my Oneplus 8 Plus and my Kia e-Niro 2021.
Unfortunately, the entire display is not used for Android Auto and there remains a black area on the right that cannot be used.
Is there a way to use the entire screen?
And great device and great Jop!
it works like a charm!! really thx so much @Emil Borconi !
samsung s21 and peugeot nac (3008)
got mine yesterday and i only had some troubles with netguard (VPN "firewall"), since i disbaled the rules for aawireless and android auto it is working.
Pixel 4 XL
Ford Focus MK3
I just received a notification my unit has shipping. I guess I will be one of the first to confirm if this works with a 2020 Subaru Forrester along with my OnePlus 8T+ 5G (KB2007).
I also received my AAwireless a few days ago and am having problems with my Xiaomi Mi10 phone. However, my wife's phone, a Huawei P30 Pro, didn't cause any problems at all. So it's up to MIUI again. That may be safe, but it is extremely annoying with peripherals. Does anyone know these problems with Xiaomi and maybe can help me?
II have no regrets and was one of the first to support on Indiegogo and I would love to do it again!
Edit: Car is a Kia ProCeed GT 2020.
Hello all,
First of all:
My Mi 10 Lite used to work properly on an Audi Head Unit and a china Android HU with an AA box.
With the china HU the phone ran with MIUI 12.1 und 12.5 I guess? I did got an update to MIUI 12.5.1 this week.
I have the Skoda since 02. july, so Android Auto worked with all MIUI Versions till then on the china Radio in my old car.
Now I have a big problem, that after pressing the microphone button on screen, my voice is detected, and the assistant will do what I am saying. For example "Play BAND XY an Spotify" or "Route to Mainstreet my City". I can also say "Write a whatsapp to abc". After that command it says something like "OK, chatting with abc. What do you want to say?". AND now my voice won't be recognized anymore.
What have I tried till now:
- updated firmware of Skoda Headunit to newest Version (1433)
- three different cables (china noname, Anker, original Xiaomi cable)
- another Android Phone (Samsung A40) --> DID work well
Just as I am writing now, I have not tried yet to swipe the cache of the app.
In the screenshots, you cann see the permissions of the Android Auto app.
What have I missed? What can I do?
For me it is an important feature to dictate messages, as my family or girlfriend sometimes have simple questions per whatsapp, which can be shortly answered. Calling would be a very much longer time, and my drive home is about an hour.