Hi, I'm looking these days to buy a new smartphone, but I'm confused as far as xiaomi with all these mi 9.
So we have :
Mi 9: sd855 China/global
Mi 9 pro: sd855+ China
Same for mi 9 pro 5g. China.
Mi 9t: sd855 global
Mi 9t pro: sd855 global
K20: sd855 China
K20 pro: sd855 China
K20 pro premium: sd855+ China
So there is no mi 9t pro with sd855+ global. Right ?
And no mi 9 pro with sd855+ global right ?
So in a few words , in the global market there is no xiaomi with sd855+ ???
Enlighten me. I need global and I need sd855+ with that imx586 sensor or better. I simply want the best.
Mi mix alpha is out of question. I'd better buy a car at that price.
kessaras said:
Hi, I'm looking these days to buy a new smartphone, but I'm confused as far as xiaomi with all these mi 9.
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Yes, the situation it's absolutely SUPER confused
Thanks Xiaomi, it's pretty hard hahah.
Anyway, let's try to complete the puzzle.
kessaras said:
Mi 9: sd855 China/global
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Yes
kessaras said:
Mi 9 pro: sd855+ China
Same for mi 9 pro 5g. China.
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Yes
kessaras said:
Mi 9t: sd855 global
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No. S730
kessaras said:
Mi 9t pro: sd855 global
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Yes
kessaras said:
K20: sd855 China
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No, S730
kessaras said:
K20 pro: sd855 China
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Yes
kessaras said:
K20 pro premium: sd855+ China
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Yes
kessaras said:
So there is no mi 9t pro with sd855+ global. Right ?
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Yes, Mi9 T pro is always 855 both CHINA and GLOBAL.
kessaras said:
And no mi 9 pro with sd855+ global right ?
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Yes, Mi 9 pro and Mi 9 pro 5G have S855+ but actually NOT available in europe.
kessaras said:
So in a few words , in the global market there is no xiaomi with sd855+ ???
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Only Black Shark 2 Pro, Mi Mix Alpha, but Mi 9 pro and Mi 9 Pro 5G may come to europe in future.
kessaras said:
Enlighten me. I need global and I need sd855+ with that imx586 sensor or better. I simply want the best.
Mi mix alpha is out of question. I'd better buy a car at that price.
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Remeber that Chinese and Global versions have different LTE bands, and in europe many operators use B20, that is not available on Chinese versions, so you'll get BAD signal reception.
Global version has LTE FDD: B20/B28. Chinese version has LTE FDD: B17; LTE TDD: B34/B41. Rest of bands are the same.
To sum up.
- Mi 9 SE: SD712 6GB RAM 18W 3070Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- Mi9 Lite: SD710 6GB 18W 4030Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- Mi 9t: SD730 6GB RAM 18W 4000Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- K20: SD730 6GB RAM 18W 4000Mah CHINA
- Mi 9: SD855 6/8GB RAM 27W 3300Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- Mi 9 EE (Explorer Edition): SD855 12GB RAM 27W 3300Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- Mi 9t Pro: SD855 6GB RAM 27W 4000Mah GLOBAL
- K20 Pro: SD855 6GB RAM 27W 4000Mah CHINA
- K20 Pro Premium: SD855+ 8/12GB RAM 27W 4000Mah CHINA
- Mi 9 Pro/Pro 5G: SD855+ 8GB RAM, 40W 4000Mah CHINA
I highlighted in RED "negative" aspects.
To complete the list. (On 20/10/2019)
Simply, if you want an global 855+, wait for Q1 2020
Nope, Mi 9T is not available in China, it's a Redmi K20 for the rest of the world, while the K20 is India and China only.
Same for the Mi 9T Pro and Redmi K20 Pro.
In done of hardware and gaming experience, this is THE BEST GAMING phone I have used till date and I have used quite of them as a serious gamer (Razer 1, ROG 2, ROG 3 - limited, Black shark 3 pro, Nubia Red Magic 5s, iPhone 11 Pro Max).
While the OS and some trigger features might not be as complex as ROG phones, here are a few features that separate the phone from rest of the pack:
1) Physical triggers/ shoulder buttons are way better to play with vs. the capacitive triggers on ROG and Red Magic (Red magic triggers suck to be honest). They work even when not using the gaming mode (or shark space mode), unlike Nubia where the triggers work only in RM gaming mode
2) Shark space is very intuitive and much better interface esp compared to Nubia
3) Compared to Rog 2 and Red Magic 5s, the phone remains much cooler even during long gaming sessions (2hrs plus). No significant lags/ frame drops even when the phone is hot.
4) Battery lasts significantly longer during gaming vs. Rog 2 and RM 5s
5) Much better build accessories which also work with other phones unlike ROG where you are stuck with the Asus ecosystem (my rog 2 dock is lying idle since my rog 2 died). The keyboard works great with pc gaming as well as other android devices. Although I usually game on my phone but once a while using keyboard is fun
However, most of the benefits just stop there, and here are the reasons why it is not the first choice for a junkie who wants to get the full out of his phone:
1) Extremely limited Xiaomi support on opening up the software. People still struggle to find global ROMs and rooting the phone for custom ROMs is a nightmare (at least now its free, when I purchased the phone you couldn't root it without paying someone in Xiaomi for it)
2) Some of the great software features in gaming phones are missing:
a) Game recording sucks. If you turn your in game mic on or off during gameplay, chances are audio will stop recording (in game). No matter how many permutations and combinations you try.
b) No way to create automated montage videos like the Red Magic Moment on the phone. The shark time, while eating away the phone battery, is a lousy piece of software (you need to click the icon everytime to make a kill and it will store 15-20 seconds of the video as a file). Having a red magic moment like feature will really push sales of this phone like crazy vs. Nubia. But they wont do it. Neither would they open up to help independent developers build a feature like this.
3) Extremely poor post sales support/ feedback. Unlike ROG (which has a dedicated forum on their website led by Asus employees) where sales and tech support continuously take in feedback to refine their product (example the desktop dock which I worked with their mods for quick updates and refinement), there is no seemingly easy way to connect with Black shark developers to give feedback, forget about requesting new features
I wonder if the developers at Xiaomi even read forums like XDA to help improve their connect with buyers and work on their shortcomings.
Just look at the Android security patch we are at... They are not even bothered.
This phone is last on their list, all the redmi and poco has started receiving Android 11.
Xiaomi should have mentioned zero support on blackshark page.
We don't even have proper gesture based navigation in 2021.
Yeah Global support is really bad. Android security patch is old from 5 may 2020 and still no word about Android 11. It's a shame because the phone it self is still great.
They also focusing now on the new Black Shark 4, but that's no excuse.
They wind
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Yeah Global support is really bad. Android security patch is old from 5 may 2020 and still no word about Android 11. It's a shame because the phone it self is still great.
They also focusing now on the new Black Shark 4, but that's no excuse.
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They won’t be able to sell many 4 pros if people with bs 3 and 3 pro are struggling. This is why asus sells many more units even though the triggers of bs3 are way better.
The worst part is in China it gets more updates than globally. They should have mentioned this is a China only phone then I would have just brought an OnePlus again or a samsung.
possible for International version flashing a China Rom?
Phones that have received MIUI12 so far
Redmi 8A Pro – NEW
Redmi 8A Dual (India) – NEW
Redmi 7 (China)
Xiaomi Mi 6X (China)
Redmi Note 6 Pro (Global)
Redmi 7A (China, India, Global, EEA, Russia)
Redmi Note 5 /Note 5 Pro
POCO M2 (India)
Redmi 8 (China, Global, Russia, Europe, Indonesia)
Redmi Note 8 (China, India, Indonesia)
Redmi Note 9s (Europe)
Redmi 9 Prime (India)
Xiaomi Mi 8 Explorer Edition (China)
Xiaomi Mi 8 (Global)
Xiaomi Mi 8 Pro (China, Global, Russia)
Xiaomi Mi 8 SE (China)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G (Europe)
Redmi 9T (India, Global)
Xiaomi Mi 9 SE (China version, Global, Russia, Europe)
Poco F1
Redmi Note 7 (China, India)
Xiaomi Mi Note 10 (Global, Europe, Indonesia)
Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Lite (Global,Europe, Russia)
Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Pro (Global , Indonesia)
Redmi 6 Pro (China, India)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 (China, Global, Russia)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s (China,Russia)
Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro (China version, Europe, Global)
Redmi Note 9 (Global version, Europe, India, Russia, Turkey)
Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite (China, Russia, Global)
Redmi 10X 4G (China version)
Xiaomi Mi 9T (Global version,Russia, Europe)
Xiaomi Mi 10 (China, Global version, Europe)
Redmi Note 8 Pro (Global version, China version, India, Indonesia, Europe, Russia)
Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro (Global version,Russia)
Poco F2 Pro (European version,Russia, Indonesia)
Poco X2 ( Resumed in India)
Redmi 10X 5G (China version)
Redmi 10X Pro 5G (China version)
Redmi Note 7 (China version, India,Russia)
Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite (China version,Europe version)
Xiaomi Redmi K30 Pro (China)
Redmi Note 7 Pro (China, India)
Mi 10 Lite 5G (Europe)
Mi CC9 Pro (China)
Mi CC9 (China)
Mi CC9 Meitu Edition (China)
Mi 9 Lite (Russia, Europe, Global)
Redmi 9 (China, India, Global, Russia, Indonesia, EEA)
Xiaomi Mi MIX 2
Pocophone F1 /Poco F1 (Russia, Global)
Redmi Note 9 Pro (India, Turkey, Russia, Europe)
Redmi Note 9 Pro Max (India)
Poco M2 Pro (India)
Xiaomi Mi Note 3 (China, Global)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G (Global)
Redmi 8A (China, Europe, Russia, Global, India, Indonesia)
Redmi Note 8T (Global, Europe, Russia)
Redmi K20 Pro Premium (China version)
Redmi K30 5G Racing (China version)
Xiaomi Mi 9 Explorer (China version)
Xiaomi Redmi K30 Zoom (China version)
Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite Zoom (China version)
Xiaomi Redmi K30 5G (China version)
Xiaomi Mi 9 (China and European version)
Xiaomi Redmi K20 (China, India version)
Xiaomi Redmi K20 Pro (China, India version)
lonnieo said:
possible for International version flashing a China Rom?
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Not sure. But even if it is, be prepared to lose nfc and also limited languages support.
Black Shark 3 Pro doesn't have NFC. But yes Chinese rom is ony English and Chinese language.
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Black Shark 3 Pro doesn't have NFC. But yes Chinese rom is ony English and Chinese language.
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Thanks for clarification. My mistake. Got confused with rm device on nfc. Bs3 pro doesn’t have nfc on any version.
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jananan
3 days ago
is my phone ever getting new joyui or Android 11? the security patch version is very old.
Jason
21 hours ago
Hello
Regular patch and security patch will be rolling out on 3 series this month, plz be patient.
As for joy ui 12, we do not have an estimate for global release yet, plz subscribe to our facebook page and get first hand news.
Best Regards,
Black Shark Global
Wow, what i read now about the Black Shark 4 Pro really sucks. I'm not going to buy it if true.
Last year’s Black Shark Pro 3 was one of the phones with the biggest displays with a massive 7.1-inch screen 90Hz AMOLED panel with a 2k+ resolution. This year, Black Shark has cut down not only the screen size but also the resolution. The Black Shark 4 Pro will have a 6.67-inch screen with a 1080p resolution. We don’t know the screen size and resolution of the standard model but the resolution will most definitely be 1080p too.
jananan said:
jananan
3 days ago
is my phone ever getting new joyui or Android 11? the security patch version is very old.
Jason
21 hours ago
Hello
Regular patch and security patch will be rolling out on 3 series this month, plz be patient.
As for joy ui 12, we do not have an estimate for global release yet, plz subscribe to our facebook page and get first hand news.
Best Regards,
Black Shark Global
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Please add a decent recorder for games. Your current screen recorder sucks.
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Wow, what i read now about the Black Shark 4 Pro really sucks. I'm not going to buy it if true.
Last year’s Black Shark Pro 3 was one of the phones with the biggest displays with a massive 7.1-inch screen 90Hz AMOLED panel with a 2k+ resolution. This year, Black Shark has cut down not only the screen size but also the resolution. The Black Shark 4 Pro will have a 6.67-inch screen with a 1080p resolution. We don’t know the screen size and resolution of the standard model but the resolution will most definitely be 1080p too.
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It is the new Xiaomi way keep using same display etc on various phones keep tweaking speeds camera etc and churn out endless phones with small differences....6.67 inches...just see how many Xiaomi phones have this display size now.,,,just today they announced 3 more...lol
they even ported joyui 12 to other redmi devices , unofficially by forummers