Hi everyone, i have a problem with "ram used" on Note 9 run android pie.
When i don't installer adhell, "ram used" on Note9 about 2,6G used
When i installer adhell and disable some unnecessary bloatware, i reboot the phone, "ram used" is 1,9G
But after 1 hour ram used is about 2,8G ~ 3,1G and dont decrease. Does anyone has a same problem like me?
Smileboy90 said:
Hi everyone, i have a problem with "ram used" on Note 9 run android pie.
When i don't installer adhell, "ram used" on Note9 about 2,6G used
When i installer adhell and disable some unnecessary bloatware, i reboot the phone, "ram used" is 1,9G
But after 1 hour ram used is about 2,8G ~ 3,1G and dont decrease. Does anyone has a same problem like me?
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catlog filling up with errors because system is calling modules that have been removed or disabled but dependencies are looping tring to access these items and consuming more memory than stock?
its called add hell for a reason you know
lol jk
Ram keeps being used up but this time by apps you deem useful. Normal operating in any case.
Smileboy90 said:
Hi everyone, i have a problem with "ram used" on Note 9 run android pie.
When i don't installer adhell, "ram used" on Note9 about 2,6G used
When i installer adhell and disable some unnecessary bloatware, i reboot the phone, "ram used" is 1,9G
But after 1 hour ram used is about 2,8G ~ 3,1G and dont decrease. Does anyone has a same problem like me?
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It depends on a lot of things, firstly you should get a better overview of whats happening. Easy way is to unlock developer options--->services. Most likely the RAM is cached with things and not really used. Also worth mentioning as already told here - disabling "bloatware" on the recent samsung updates (from nougat up atleast) is actually hurting - both in battery and performance. Reason - services calling those disabled services, leading to a loops. Android 7 and up is really good to "put to sleep" not used apps/services. Let the OS do it's job instead of causing problems that are hard to track (you should check logs like the one from the kernel to spot those things, it will not show as UI errors + the phone is fast enough to not notice it that much in performance).
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Can't see why this is the case (but it obviously is) as long as I have lots of free disk space and not many apps running at the same time. Any logic in this?
I've been experiencing the same issue and wondering the same thing...
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There seems to be several things causing this, but the two key issues are:
The moviNAND (the internal flash drive/"SSD") firmware seems to have an issue with fsync() taking extremely long. E.g., it slows down whenever a file is written/updated on the internal storage.
RFS, the file system used by Samsung is buggy as hell and corrupts data after a while.
There are several topics on these issues in the Android Development forum. There are also several "lag fixes" trying their best to overcome these issues. Go check them out
Einride said:
There seems to be several things causing this, but the two key issues are:
RFS, the file system used by Samsung is buggy as hell and corrupts data after a while.
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We have no idea if that is ACTUALLY true.. Just because fsck picked some things up on 1 phone, doesn't mean it happens everywhere.. Furthermore, it doesn't mean the problems detected affect operations
that has no truth at all about more apps slowing down the phone, my phone is the prove
Before jpk i didn't noticed slowdowns with aprox 100 apps, now i do on jpk =/
Prolly that all pictures/links/info stays in his workmemory?
probably cause some of them run in the system memory or run at startup
KaliKot said:
probably cause some of them run in the system memory or run at startup
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Bingo!
and that is what most people does not realize
they need to Optimize the phone, most people take it for granted
the phone is not a phone, the phone is a mini computer that fits in your hands
just like your big desktop PC it can go crazy if you don't take care of it
AllGamer said:
Bingo!
and that is what most people does not realize
they need to Optimize the phone, most people take it for granted
the phone is not a phone, the phone is a mini computer that fits in your hands
just like your big desktop PC it can go crazy if you don't take care of it
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Can you tell me why with the same apps installed on the Nexus it doesn't lag like the SGS?
Can you stop blaming users when is the phone which doesn't work as expected?
Oletros said:
Can you tell me why with the same apps installed on the Nexus it doesn't lag like the SGS?
Can you stop blaming users when is the phone which doesn't work as expected?
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utter ****e -i have well over 100 apps on my sgs and experience NO lag whatsoever!
bonehooch said:
utter ****e -i have well over 100 apps on my sgs and experience NO lag whatsoever!
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Utter ****e? Why?
it was mentioned many many times
just install autorunkiller and a good task manager then all the problems will be gone
stock ROM is very fast when you maintain the phone
AllGamer said:
it was mentioned many many times
just install autorunkiller and a good task manager then all the problems will be gone
stock ROM is very fast when you maintain the phone
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With autokiller the phone is still laggy.
And please, stop thinking I'm stupid or I don't know a **** about smartphones, ROM's changing, firmware or knowing how a phone must run.
AFAIK this topic and its responses are for the OP
I have about 190 Apps installed and do not experience any diferene in overall speed of the phone. But only because i know that a lot of the programms start on boot and stay in background.
I have more than 15 apps turned off with the full version of autorun killer to prevent the auto restart of the apps. Otherwise the phone would definetaly slow down.
It´s really incredible what apps start on the boot!
TMReuffurth said:
I have about 190 Apps installed and do not experience any diferene in overall speed of the phone. But only because i know that a lot of the programms start on boot and stay in background.
I have more than 15 apps turned off with the full version of autorun killer to prevent the auto restart of the apps. Otherwise the phone would definetaly slow down.
It´s really incredible what apps start on the boot!
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Do you need to be rooted ti use all of the functions in autorun killer? I am not rooted.
Can you compile a breif list of the "biggest culprits" to stop with this utility to gain back the most speed and efficiency? I am a bit nervous that I will stop the wrong items and somehow damage my phone...
Autokiller and task killers are not the solution here! Quick lesson on Android, and why having even A SINGLE BAD APP is going to ruin your whole phone!
Android has something called an 'Intent'. In order to start an app, an intent is made by your launcher or a button you press, and the Android system reads this intent and works out what app it needs to start up.
There is a second type of intent though, called a 'Broadcast Intent'. This is an intent that is sent out to anything that is registered to listen to it. This means that an app can register to listen to all sorts of events, such as battery level changed, application start, or a tons of other things. Even if the application is closed, if it is registered as a listener, Android will start it right back up so it can deal with the intent. If the intent comes every 5 seconds, Android will run this app every 5 seconds even if you have a taskkiller killing the app.
The only real solution is to not install apps which are bad! Finding bad apps is a real mission, too. Hopefully in the future, utilities will be available to let us track down these terrible apps, but till then, you'll have to work it out yourself.
yiannisthegreek said:
Do you need to be rooted ti use all of the functions in autorun killer? I am not rooted.
Can you compile a breif list of the "biggest culprits" to stop with this utility to gain back the most speed and efficiency? I am a bit nervous that I will stop the wrong items and somehow damage my phone...
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No need for Root to use all features of Autorun Killer. I would disable only the apps you know and which you do not need at startup and running in background, such as (in my case) Paypal, App Center from Androidpit, Daily Briefing, Photoshop Express, Word Press, TweetCaster, etc.
Every of these apps works normal, even when deactivatet on startup.
So unless you do not disable system apps (must be previously set enabled in settings) you are safe.
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(...)There is a second type of intent though, called a 'Broadcast Intent'. This is an intent that is sent out to anything that is registered to listen to it.(...)
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Is there any possibility/app to show what is registered for which app?
watching the apps
Samga said:
Is there any possibility/app to show what is registered for which app?
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There is an app called Autostarts at 0.95$.
It shows what is launched au startup, when you enable/disable wifi etc.
It think it gives insight on how apps seems launching out of nowhere.
I also reccomend Watchdog Task Manager Lite, the free version.
It does not kill anything, but notifies and logs the bad apps that consumes over a certain CPU percentage.
I just recently received some warnings from screen overlay that tells me that my memory is very low- 90% used. It asks me to clear or cancel. I always use task manager to free up ram on my own terms, but never received this warning for months. The most recent utility I have installed is Avast, and I am running stock ROM and not rooted. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this pop up warning? I've done a couple resets (strangely my Note has started to reboot on its item lately). Could Avast be causing some kind of conflict?
gman901 said:
I just recently received some warnings from screen overlay that tells me that my memory is very low- 90% used. It asks me to clear or cancel. I always use task manager to free up ram on my own terms, but never received this warning for months. The most recent utility I have installed is Avast, and I am running stock ROM and not rooted. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this pop up warning? I've done a couple resets (strangely my Note has started to reboot on its item lately). Could Avast be causing some kind of conflict?
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Maybe pop up reminds you not about your RAM, about phone memory ?
gman901 said:
I just recently received some warnings from screen overlay that tells me that my memory is very low- 90% used. It asks me to clear or cancel. I always use task manager to free up ram on my own terms, but never received this warning for months. The most recent utility I have installed is Avast, and I am running stock ROM and not rooted. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this pop up warning? I've done a couple resets (strangely my Note has started to reboot on its item lately). Could Avast be causing some kind of conflict?
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That's a normal low-memory dialog. It comes from either Avast or Go Task Manager ( or any other task manager ). I don't remember stock task manager to give any pop-ups. It simply tells you that your phone has used most of it's RAM memory.
Nothing to worry about, just let Android manage it's RAM the way it wants to do it. As soon as another app will need more memory, Android will clear some for it. So unless you're getting apps crashing with "out of memory" messages, you're fine.
If you want to, you can clear your memory by rebooting or using task manager - but as soon as you clear it, apps will load back in few minutes - becaue frankly that's what RAM is for.
Hi Guys & Gals,
I recently installed the stagefright fix to Build LMY48I (Android 5.1.1, Baseband MDM9625_104446.01.02.101R, Kernel 3.10.40-geec2459. I did it using Nexus root toolkit v2.0.5. Now when I use battery saving apps such as Battery Doctor / Advanced Task Killer Pro / Greenify they all seem to say Excellent / no apps running good memory (despite the memory getting fuller etc). It is definitely rooted and I have reinstalled apps etc and can see them accessing Super SU. It seems to be indicating all ok. When I use clean master it frees up a lot of RAM which Advanced Task killer pro reports has occurred. Basically, battery doctor seems to be having no effect even when using super optimize (it doesn't seem to be killing anything). Am I missing something?
Regards,
Mick
mcwarre said:
. . .When I use clean master it frees up a lot of RAM which Advanced Task killer pro reports has occurred. Basically, battery doctor seems to be having no effect even when using super optimize (it doesn't seem to be killing anything). Am I missing something?
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You are not missing something, you have to much memory management.
Lollipop has its own modern memory management and there is no need for optimizers/cleaners.
Just uninstall optimizers/cleaners.
For battery life you may use apps with a black background.
I've same probleme and i found this app.
Works with last ota update on nexus 5.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.taskmanager
Hi guys, my n910t3 is on Tekxodus 5.1.1 with root and xposed. It always seems to close the background apps. In the task manager, my ram usage rarely ever goes to 2gb/2.72gb. I have my background processes set to the standard limit. I have tried apps like memory locker and ram manger(root), both of them not working :crying:. I tried to do the build.prop fix that the s6 and note 5 use, but I could not find the ro.config.dha file anywhere. I don't think that Tekxodus is the problem because I always had these problems, and thought that installing a custom rom would fix the problem. Any help would help
michaelw911 said:
Hi guys, my n910t3 is on Tekxodus 5.1.1 with root and xposed. It always seems to close the background apps. In the task manager, my ram usage rarely ever goes to 2gb/2.72gb. I have my background processes set to the standard limit. I have tried apps like memory locker and ram manger(root), both of them not working :crying:. I tried to do the build.prop fix that the s6 and note 5 use, but I could not find the ro.config.dha file anywhere. I don't think that Tekxodus is the problem because I always had these problems, and thought that installing a custom rom would fix the problem. Any help would help
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The build.prop edit you were talking about (ro.config.dha) has to be added as a new line to the build.prop and you can do that with any root editor. I use 3C Toolbox to add the lines and edit the existing ones.
But honestly, if the RAM management apps aren't able to change it I would try going back to stock software and seeing if the RAM issue still happens. If it does it there too you could have bad RAM blocks (more likely) or the T3 may have a totally different memory management routine that we don't know about (unlikely).
Hello fellow MI5 users,
I received my phone one week ago and I start having some issues with the RAM. In fact, at the start of the phone, it's already at 70% filled up which is too much for me. Indeed I use a lot of RAM and I'm that type of guy who let the apps running in background everytime because I keep opening them everytime. I was wondering if it was possible to have a link to a better ROM because I guess it's the problem and also a link for a tutorial on how to flash it I'm a newbie in this type of manipulation but I'm very interested so I hope you will help me guys. By the way, my MIUI version is the MIUI 8 Global 6.8.18. I honestly don't know what can i give as information but I'll answer ASAP at any questions
Have a good day
This is working as design - Android keeps apps in RAM to reduce I/O on resuming from background - faster & more energy efficient.
You can change the number of background processes via the development settings or you can kill apps on closing.
adwinp said:
This is working as design - Android keeps apps in RAM to reduce I/O on resuming from background - faster & more energy efficient.
You can change the number of background processes via the development settings or you can kill apps on closing.
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I've seen that indeed but it was set at standard so I'll probably put it at 3 I guess. How should I set the memory optimization? I've read it should be set off, altough I tried middle and I feel comfortable like that?
Is it normal to start at 70% without anything started ?
Unitae said:
I've seen that indeed but it was set at standard so I'll probably put it at 3 I guess. How should I set the memory optimization? I've read it should be set off, altough I tried middle and I feel comfortable like that?
Is it normal to start at 70% without anything started ?
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For the 3GB version? Pretty much. MIUI is horrible.
After booting I typically had 1.3GB / 3.0GB free but after a while this averaged to around 650MB free.
free ram is useless ram , which cant accelerate anything
ps2lover said:
free ram is useless ram , which cant accelerate anything
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I know that but I need more because I use multi-task a lot. Is there a way to change the ROM so I have more space to work with? Even if the ROM itself is beautiful.
Indeed it's the 3gb version 32gb. It have lags sometimes and I think it's due to the full RAM. Can I have a link to a custom ROM which works fine on this device?
I'm a little confused, you want as much RAM available but you want as many processes in the background as well? That sounds contradicting to me. Memory optimization maps to ZRAM, if you set it off there will be no memory compression and thus even less processes will be kept in the background. If you set it high, you can have as many processes as possible, but there could be lag due to (de)compression time overhead.
Try different Rom
Try to use a different Rom. On the Stock Rom is a lot of bloatware which is using your RAM too.
First you need to get an Bootloader unlock permission and have to unlock the BL.
It could take up to 10 Days to get the permission from Xiaomi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/unlocking-xiaomi-mi-5-bootloader-t3336243
After that you have to flash a recovery like trwp via ADB. Google it for videos or threads how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/recovery-twrp-xiaomi-mi-5-t3412123
After that you can flash a developer Rom.
I use the Resurrection Remix and it works fine. The CM 13 stucks in Bootloop. Maybe because I made a full wipe and had to sideload my rom.
Because you don't have a SD card option you have to have the room installed on your hard drive. But just follow the description below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/unofficial-resurrection-remix-m-5-6-9-t3395945
It took me just 1 day to get the unlock permit but don't try do do it without it. You brick your phone.
The RR Rom works really fine. Fingerprint and everything. It has no bloatware and you have to get the gaps like in the description. Arm64 nano seems enough.
Good luck and fun with a great phone.
Normally the android system kills the unused apps even in background. But i also experienced lack in multitasking.
leledumbo said:
I'm a little confused, you want as much RAM available but you want as many processes in the background as well? That sounds contradicting to me. Memory optimization maps to ZRAM, if you set it off there will be no memory compression and thus even less processes will be kept in the background. If you set it high, you can have as many processes as possible, but there could be lag due to (de)compression time overhead.
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible apps in the background.
lapocompris said:
I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible app in the background.
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Yup exactly
Try trwp 3.0.2.0 with 3.0.2.1 people experience bootloop
Omied said:
Try trwp 3.0.2.0 with 3.0.2.1 people experience bootloop
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In fact, I'm just doing some research before asking because I'm very new. I have found some videos but they are pretty old and not on this phone but I guess it works more or less the same way
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible apps in the background.
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OK, in that case, just open Security->Permissions->Autostart and disable those which aren't immediately needed upon start. I have 18 autostart items (mostly system monitoring & social media apps) and I usually start with 1.5 GB free RAM.