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Note 8 - how hackable will these be?

I've been a google phone user since they started, and messed with a couple others but not really...
Will this phone be as open as I'm used to in regards to ROMs? Do they lock the bootloader like I had a my Xperia?

Exynos version (international) will likely see ROMs. Snapdragon version (US carriers) will not. We'll be lucky if we get root.

PsiPhiDan said:
Exynos version (international) will likely see ROMs. Snapdragon version (US carriers) will not. We'll be lucky if we get root.
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why is that ?

Because Snapdragon is a locked bootloader. Without some kind of luck, leak or flaw there will be no root. At best, disable the update package with BK disabler so you won't take any updates in the hope that there is a flaw which allows us to root.

Cant wait to get twrp .... Only minimal changes must done from s8 to n8

Exynos is king Stay with the [F] variant and you will be fine (SM-N950F or SM-N950FD)

I have the 256gb Korean version, are the Korean models usually compatible with other roms (i would have went for the 64 gb FD but the price difference wasn't that big so i went with bigger storage

Well guess I'll send mine back and get an unlocked phone

Bushido1992 said:
Cant wait to get twrp .... Only minimal changes must done from s8 to n8
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Exactly my thought. Just like the S7 to Note 7, very easy to root, twrp and ROM.
I am just going to wait for all that to be done lol.

iowamoe300 said:
Because Snapdragon is a locked bootloader. Without some kind of luck, leak or flaw there will be no root. At best, disable the update package with BK disabler so you won't take any updates in the hope that there is a flaw which allows us to root.
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thanks. I didn't know that. My Snapdragon dual SIM on top of a micro SD slot N9100 was rooted but no good custom ROM [ unfortunately ]. always watching for a newer and better version of AMOLED, dual SIM AND microSD, stylus, removable battery for years now. skipped 5, 7 and may skip 8 as well. especially if there is no root and no TWRP. 4 is still running strong.

PsiPhiDan said:
Exynos version (international) will likely see ROMs. Snapdragon version (US carriers) will not. We'll be lucky if we get root.
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Thank you - exactly what I wanted to know.

Best ROM for Note5 (S pen user here)

Hi everyone, I'm looking for a note 5 rom that is stable and doesn't remove functions like s pen because i use that a lot.
Any suggestions would be helpful.

You can have look at infinity rom on samsungvn. İt updated to lastest security patch. It is stable. But i went to stock rom back. My battery can't carry the s8 ports lol. Give a try for this rom mate.

Infinity FE 2.1 edition is the best bet (in samsungvn).. I am on it now.

Does flashing other touchwiz roms break knox? Do you have to unlock your bootloader in order to do so? I'm familiar with flashing but I've never done it on my note 5, so I'm curious.

BlockOfDynamite said:
Does flashing other touchwiz roms break knox? Do you have to unlock your bootloader in order to do so? I'm familiar with flashing but I've never done it on my note 5, so I'm curious.
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Flash a rom break knox but you can simulate knox like Khongloi rom (secured folder works for example)
You have to update your bootloader if you are not on marshmallow

MIUI update UK model

Hi there. I have a Xiaomi Mi 8 (from Three) which I have currently got the region set to India, mainly so that I can use Face Unlock, Theme Store, etc.
What I'd like to know is, if I continue to use the Mi 8 under the India region, will I still get the MIUI 10 update when it's released, as its not set to UK?
Thank you for any help on this matter.

Unlock your BL, install MIUI EU and you can freely choose any themes you want without any stupid restriction from Xiaomi.

motherninja said:
Unlock your BL, install MIUI EU and you can freely choose any themes you want without any stupid restriction from Xiaomi.
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Thank you for your response, but I haven't a clue how to unlock the BL and where I'd get a non hacked version of MIUI EU from.
I'd probably end up bricking the phone. lol
I'm just worried that if I keep using it under a different region, I won't receive the update.

Steven Hudson said:
Thank you for your response, but I haven't a clue how to unlock the BL and where I'd get a non hacked version of MIUI EU from.
I'd probably end up bricking the phone. lol
I'm just worried that if I keep using it under a different region, I won't receive the update.
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Usually updates are pushed to phones based on the build number. If yours is a UK variant then it'll have a UK variant build number (most likely). I wouldn't have thought the region setting you put in when first starting & setting up the phone would make any difference. But don't quote me on that...

horsetastic said:
Usually updates are pushed to phones based on the build number. If yours is a UK variant then it'll have a UK variant build number (most likely). I wouldn't have thought the region setting you put in when first starting & setting up the phone would make any difference. But don't quote me on that...
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Many thanks for that.
I initially bought this phone as a work phone, but I actually enjoy using it more than my S8+, plus I've heard that MIUI 10 (plus Android Pie) is way better than MIUI 9.6.
Thanks again.

Steven Hudson said:
Many thanks for that.
I initially bought this phone as a work phone, but I actually enjoy using it more than my S8+, plus I've heard that MIUI 10 (plus Android Pie) is way better than MIUI 9.6.
Thanks again.
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I'm actually not an owner of the phone myself (yet) still torn between this and the Honor 10. Hard to choose between such good budget phones these days.
Glad I could help though.
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Steven Hudson said:
Many thanks for that.
I initially bought this phone as a work phone, but I actually enjoy using it more than my S8+, plus I've heard that MIUI 10 (plus Android Pie) is way better than MIUI 9.6.
Thanks again.
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I can confirm that MIUI 10 based on Pie is WAY better. Just the "OK Google" hotword detection to fix and it'll be pretty much perfect.
I'm in the UK, use mine with both my work and personal SIM in - I'm running the latest ROM from Xiaomi.eu (MIUI 10.2 - Weekly 8.11.23).
It's great.
Also have installed the custom GCam for it, which is superb! I use the Xiaomi cam for video and portrait mode and the Google Camera for everything else - night mode is seriously impressive.

jimac said:
I can confirm that MIUI 10 based on Pie is WAY better. Just the "OK Google" hotword detection to fix and it'll be pretty much perfect.
I'm in the UK, use mine with both my work and personal SIM in - I'm running the latest ROM from Xiaomi.eu (MIUI 10.2 - Weekly 8.11.23).
It's great.
Also have installed the custom GCam for it, which is superb! I use the Xiaomi cam for video and portrait mode and the Google Camera for everything else - night mode is seriously impressive.
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I'm jealous, just for the Google Camera alone. lol
Thank you for your reply.

horsetastic said:
I'm actually not an owner of the phone myself (yet) still torn between this and the Honor 10. Hard to choose between such good budget phones these days.
Glad I could help though.
Sent from my FRD-L09 using Tapatalk
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I bought my daughter the Honor 10 for her last birthday. It's a great looking phone with a very good camera/cameras. The back of the Honor 10 (blue) has to be seen to be believed, it looks amazing.
I must admit, the Xiaomi does have the edge when it comes to the screen, but it is a close battle.
I do love the camera slightly more (it's very close) on the Xiaomi too, but everything just seems a little more stable with the Honor 10 and it's EMUI skin on Android 8. I've had a few older apps that have refused to run on the Xiaomi.
That will hopefully change on the next Xiaomi update.

How
Steven Hudson said:
I'm jealous, just for the Google Camera alone. lol
Thank you for your reply.
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I've got a mi 8 global
Still got a droid 8.1
Emui 9.6.6 showing no update and it's mid march. ..what am I doing wrong
Don't have a pc
Help

Steven Hudson said:
Hi there. I have a Xiaomi Mi 8 (from Three) which I have currently got the region set to India, mainly so that I can use Face Unlock, Theme Store, etc.
What I'd like to know is, if I continue to use the Mi 8 under the India region, will I still get the MIUI 10 update when it's released, as its not set to UK?
Thank you for any help on this matter.
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As no one is not giving a answer, so I'll try to help you out.
It's no matter what you have chosen, if you have the stock recovery, you'll always receive OTA updates. You can not change the stock recovery without an unlocked bootloader which can be achieved by the official tool provided by Xiaomi, for further information, use Google.
Unlocked bootloader gives you access to all functions of your device, and this means that you can use even a Pixel device Android "mod", and it's the closest to the native Android.
If you are using IM apps too often, you'll notice that your notifications are not being delivered just in time. also, MIUI has tons of bloatwares and limitations that won't allow you to use your device freely, and appearantly Xiaomi is collecting some "not innocent" data from your phone, so you might want to consider your privacy. These are just my perspective as an user that was on Android for 7 years, I hope you will enjoy your device.
Have a great night.

Docshuffles said:
I've got a mi 8 global
Still got a droid 8.1
Emui 9.6.6 showing no update and it's mid march. ..what am I doing wrong
Don't have a pc
Help
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I'm the same, no sign of an OTA update to Android 9

THUDUK said:
I'm the same, no sign of an OTA update to Android 9
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Unlocked bootloader won't let you to receive any updates. Do you use Global rom on aChinese variant?

The War Profiteer said:
Unlocked bootloader won't let you to receive any updates. Do you use Global rom on aChinese variant?
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I haven't got an unlocked bootloader as far as I know, bought the phone as a global stock phone.

THUDUK said:
I haven't got an unlocked bootloader as far as I know, bought the phone as a global stock phone.
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Perhaps you will need to update it manually. Get the very first Android 9 release from official forums, and try to sideload it.

[Q] Advice for a New N9600 owner

Hello people as the title states I recently purchased a note 9. I wanted to get the N960F model but when it arrived, to my surprise it was a N9600, which is no problem for me because snapdragon is a good thing, the only downside is the fewer development.
Anyhow I have some. Questions and I would like to hear your recommendations As I'm waiting the 7 days for the OEM unlock to appear.
1. Should I update the system? My n9 came with Android 8.1.0,but I don't know if I update it would be detrimental for the sake of rooting
2. Is this model rootable? I believe so but could you direct me to the thread on that regard.
3. Would you recommended self de bloating with TB or try WETA Rom?
4. What would you suggest: stay on stock + root or WETA Rom?
5. I've seen a lot of pie complains so should I stay on Oreo or give Pie a try? I come from the OnePlus3, I'm a former flashoholic XD and 'til my last moments with the OP3 I had HavocOS which was pie based, thus I'm hesitant to look back to Oreo.
6. This should be 1st but anyway do I need to unlock the bootloader or something special before rooting and installing twrp?
7. I've read that development for the SD version is difficult and that AOSP Roms are stuck because of gpu frequencies and other stuff, but do you think that this version will receive some. More loving from the development department in the future?
Thanks in advance guys and I appreciate your time in reading and for any suggestions you may give.

yes
Just like exynos, the bootloader is unlocked and you can always root it, version does not matter, pie , oreo. and yes you can also run all the GSIs on the phone cause its a Treble enabled device which helps a lot with roms and i think there will be much more roms for n9600 as well as soon as it ages a bit and people start rooting them. You could install WETA ROM or any other ROM / Kernel, Rooting is same as Exynos model except the TWRP has to be for Snapdragon

cooler231 said:
Just like exynos, the bootloader is unlocked and you can always root it, version does not matter, pie , oreo. and yes you can also run all the GSIs on the phone cause its a Treble enabled device which helps a lot with roms and i think there will be much more roms for n9600 as well as soon as it ages a bit and people start rooting them. You could install WETA ROM or any other ROM / Kernel, Rooting is same as Exynos model except the TWRP has to be for Snapdragon
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Thanks mate, in terms of rooting, should I use official magisk of a custom one?
On the twrp thread for the SD variant people mention the official. They just recommend versions 18.1 for Oreo and 19 for pie, is that alright?
And if I update my firmware and software over Ota before rotring and installing twrp, will it be a problem?

Downgrading android 10 to pie

Hello forum.
I am on the latest BTU UK version
Of android 10, but I wish to
return to pie. Do I basically just flash
A pie stock ROM? I Want to
Use the light ROM or galaxy project ROM .... So is it straightforward?
Thank you
GARY

Check current bootloader version if it is higher than on old pie firmware than it is a no go otherwise just use Odin

You can flash Pie, version N960FXXS4CSK2

billozy said:
You can flash Pie, version N960FXXS4CSK2
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So...SK1 wouldn't work???

Bootloader version is 5th character when you count back from end of build number. It will be S4 or U4..the number is the bootloader you are on.
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biggary said:
So...SK1 wouldn't work???
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Did you manage to return back to Pie?
And do you mind me asking why you didnt get on with Android 10 UI2?
I'm on Pie UI1, and I'm concerned about updating and 'breaking' some of the current features that work on my Note9
Thanks

Gasman said:
Did you manage to return back to Pie?
And do you mind me asking why you didnt get on with Android 10 UI2?
I'm on Pie UI1, and I'm concerned about updating and 'breaking' some of the current features that work on my Note9
Thanks
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Android 10 takes a bit of getting used to (so does Android 11 DP1 on my Pixel 3XL) -
I downloaded Odin versions of pie SK1 and latest android 10 build, as well as the twrp for the different OS, have gone back and forwards between 10 and different roms on pie, and no problems, as long as you got backup, odin and a stock rom

I tried downgrading to pie Odin reads everything but doesn't flash. It says write failed after a long time. I am using Alienware laptop I'm not sure if there is something I'm supposed to do. Any ideas. Thanks

bec48 said:
I tried downgrading to pie Odin reads everything but doesn't flash. It says write failed after a long time. I am using Alienware laptop I'm not sure if there is something I'm supposed to do. Any ideas. Thanks
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This is best your note 9 is on a newer bootloader. it is not possible to flash the old bootloader required for android pie

I was able to downgrade my Note 9 from android 10 to Pie pretty easily, but that was with the 1st release of android 10 for the Note 9. I think the newest version of android 10 has a different bootloader. So you would need to unlock the bootloader before you can downgrade to Pie.

iceepyon said:
I was able to downgrade my Note 9 from android 10 to Pie pretty easily, but that was with the 1st release of android 10 for the Note 9. I think the newest version of android 10 has a different bootloader. So you would need to unlock the bootloader before you can downgrade to Pie.
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that would be because youre on bootloader 4 and thus can downgrade to the latest pie version on bootloader 4