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Seems once again Sony can't seem to get a stable phone. Shame as it offers so much potential with good design and great specs but failing on software again.
Constant app crashes, phone freezing,
Just goes to show you can't just chuck all the latest bits in a package and think it will work.
Going to have to return this unless there is a sudden fix in the next few days as I only have a 14 day change or mind.
That hasn't been my experience at all. I got the US phone and flashed the UK firmware. I haven't had any issues whatsoever. You should try a factory reset before returning the phone.
I have it for 2 weeks now, no freeze or reboots whatsoever... European Firmware here...
My phone was purchased from O2 in the UK. Don't think there is much bloat on there so don't think it's O2 that's screwed it up.
Phone is completely standard with just a handful of apps on it.
So far I have had numerous '' email has stopped working' to Google stopped working to music not working errors.
OK Google seems to hardly ever work. Almost seems like it can't hear the hot word.
I also think that many of the push services are being put to sleep which is why the battery life is so could as I often don't get notifications until I wake the phone yet the same accounts on my old s3 always come through first.
So far had one update come out for the phone. Don't know if it's the latest firmware though.
I can totally not agree with you.
Well I guess all I can do is try reset then but it's such a pain in the ar#e putting all your info back in again.
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Well I guess all I can do is try reset then but it's such a pain in the ar#e putting all your info back in again.
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Does the launcher you use rebuild your home screens after a reset? I still use Google Now Launcher, and after a reset, when I reinstall GNL, everything is put back in its proper place, even web browser page links.
I am using the US firmware, and have not experienced any of the problems you mention. You may have a defective unit. Then again, if you're not happy with the phone for other reasons (and there certainly are things that could be better), you certainly don't want to wait past the return date!
I'm running the UK firmware with the US OEM file to have Volte and fingerprint sensor on T-Mobile and has been rock solid since day one. I would reset.
Have reset the phone and just setting it back up.
Will see how it goes over the next few days.
One thing I did think that was odd previously when it was playing up was when it would crash and reset itself was that when it started up it was on the Google keyboard set up screen. I had installed the Google keyboard as I preferred it to SwiftKey. Maybe the issues were linked to that somehow.
Wow too many errors there... Probably a faulty unit... Or maybe u should do a software repair with Sony pc companion
Don't forget it runs Android Orea 8.0 by means a lot of third party apps may not fully compatible at this moment, consider not many phones running Oreo hence the app developers are not in hurry to tweak their app to run smooth in Oreo. That's what causes the occasional app crashes I believe.
OK so after the full reset and initial impressions are good. Seems smooth with no crashes. I'm back running nova launcher (previously instilled this as thought it might be linked) ive also not installed Google keyboard yet and giving SwiftKey a go.
Only issue that really remains is the one with the ambient sensor. Find my self having to switch the adaptive brightness off at night when using the phone as it jumps around. Need to then switch it back in on the day where it seems fine. Hopefully a fix comes for this soon.
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OK so after the full reset and initial impressions are good. Seems smooth with no crashes. I'm back running nova launcher (previously instilled this as thought it might be linked) ive also not installed Google keyboard yet and giving SwiftKey a go.
Only issue that really remains is the one with the ambient sensor. Find my self having to switch the adaptive brightness off at night when using the phone as it jumps around. Need to then switch it back in on the day where it seems fine. Hopefully a fix comes for this soon.
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On reddit someone write that he downloaded LUX https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite and everything was working much much better. Maybe later i will find the post. (https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/)
No single reboot or app crash for me.
The only thing that crashes on me on occasion is Google Photos, other than that, rock solid so far.
Just had an a 3rd party app crash but as someone mentioned above it might be because the developer has not updated yet for oreo???
Other than that been much better so far
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No single reboot or app crash for me.
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Same for me. 3 weeks i have got it 100% stable.:good:
Uhm ok I guess now it's my turn.
Today the "touch" went crazy. 2 times. Like for example keeping pressing recent button ? will result in multiple touches. Basically every touch is not a "pressing" touch. So I can't do swiping or other keep pressing relative touching. First time happened, a reboot fixed. Second time nothing worked. I have to SHUT DOWN THE PHONE AND WAIT A LITTLE BIT, then turn it on and everything was OK...
Is it just me?
P.s. UPDATE: I tried everything, safe mode, total reset, even software repair through PC companion...nothing. Its obviously a hardware problem, not software related. I returned this morning to assistance. They should give it back to me within a week...
My first week with XZ1C, 100% working, perfect, no reboot or other problems. One of the best phones I ever bought...
Phone's stable, no software/hardware issues. Working away reliably, battery consistently giving me expected results (ending day with 25%-50%, depending on use), connectivity perfect, performance smooth as butter.
Hi I am in Hungary I just got the update a couple of days ago. It was 8 before and now it is 9 and EMUI 9.
Since the update I had 1 random restart and for me it is less smooth. My main issue is I use the double tap on the recent apps button to go back to the previous app a lot and it is not really working always or I have to do it quite slow and not the same as I did and it stuck and have to do again and very annoying. It is also ignoring some apps to go back to like it was not used at all. And there are other minor bugs like in a game I double tap and it makes a screenshot. I know the double knock thing I use it a lot but before it was not this sensitive and it was doing only for knocks and not taps. I was hoping so much the new EMUI 9 would support 3rd party apps notifications on the AOD but no. I am disappointed. My last phone was a S galaxy s7 and they made this integration so quickly. I have a feeling we are abandoned. Anybody have some news about this? I miss it so much. The phone is faster a bit anyway and the battery time is great. I deleted the cache partition. So what is your opinion about these things? Thanks guys.
9.0.0.163
emui 9.0.0.
Try format factory reset, im in the same release and its working great everything
is this in use said:
Hi I am in Hungary I just got the update a couple of days ago. It was 8 before and now it is 9 and EMUI 9.
Since the update I had 1 random restart and for me it is less smooth. My main issue is I use the double tap on the recent apps button to go back to the previous app a lot and it is not really working always or I have to do it quite slow and not the same as I did and it stuck and have to do again and very annoying. It is also ignoring some apps to go back to like it was not used at all. And there are other minor bugs like in a game I double tap and it makes a screenshot. I know the double knock thing I use it a lot but before it was not this sensitive and it was doing only for knocks and not taps. I was hoping so much the new EMUI 9 would support 3rd party apps notifications on the AOD but no. I am disappointed. My last phone was a S galaxy s7 and they made this integration so quickly. I have a feeling we are abandoned. Anybody have some news about this? I miss it so much. The phone is faster a bit anyway and the battery time is great. I deleted the cache partition. So what is your opinion about these things? Thanks guys.
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Luis2k33-XDA said:
Try format factory reset, im in the same release and its working great everything
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Thank you. I will do that!
I did it but after pie update, phone is worse.
Especially internet connection and general speed is worse
draligus said:
I did it but after pie update, phone is worse.
Especially internet connection and general speed is worse
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Try to reinstall with the OTG method, should work, in my case was same, the first installation felt laggy, but after i repeat the process, works smoothy
one annoyance i found in emui 9 is that now the default sim for sms will follow default internet sim, not the call one like how it was in emui 8,
this cause issue for banking app that using background sms for verification,
the app will say am using incorrect sim card if i use it with an internet connection from second sim.
this wasnt an issue in emui 8.
i hope this is just a coding bugs instead of purposely made by huawei
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Try to reinstall with the OTG method, should work, in my case was same, the first installation felt laggy, but after i repeat the process, works smoothy
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I have already reinstalled it.
After 2nd installation, i also made factory reset.
For me the battery life is awful... Last night i have lost 30% in 8h hours!!!
I have wiped cache partition.
I don't have any issue after update... Phone works perfect, camera perfect, battery perfect... after update I did FR
otonieru said:
one annoyance i found in emui 9 is that now the default sim for sms will follow default internet sim, not the call one like how it was in emui 8,
this cause issue for banking app that using background sms for verification,
the app will say am using incorrect sim card if i use it with an internet connection from second sim.
this wasnt an issue in emui 8.
i hope this is just a coding bugs instead of purposely made by huawei
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We are on the same release, and i dont have any issue with banking app. Everything also running perfect. The only issue i found after 168 update is night mode camera. It become noisy and blurry especially under shadow and dark area. Very disappointed. It wasnt happen in emui 8
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We are on the same release, and i dont have any issue with banking app. Everything also running perfect. The only issue i found after 168 update is night mode camera. It become noisy and blurry especially under shadow and dark area. Very disappointed. It wasnt happen in emui 8
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banking app itself is fine as long as i use internet from the sim that i used for banking verification as well,
it become an issue when i use internet from another sim. the app will unable to send verification sms from the correct registered sim, since in emui 9, default sms sim is following the one used as default for data in dual sim setting, while in emui 8, it follow the one used for call.
kinda hard to explain it in a word, lol. But this is common problem with dual phone sim, and thats why i expect all oem to actually give us setting to set default sim for sending sms, now we can only set default for data and call.
I am with locked bootloader.
I have updated my p20 pro to pie via SD card.
Now, is it possible to return to official oreo without unlocking bootloader..
Thanks
It's same the problem with my P20 Pro After I had updated to EMUI9 the Chrome app didn't sync well everything.. My old bookmarks are empty also! It also flashed off in the Google app before, I reset to factory for twice. And then is turn to Google Play store's apps update to update repeated.. It's like you never did it :silly::silly: I'm thinking about take it back to 8 through the Huawei Hisuite.. I think the Android 9 Pie comes with EMUI 9 is not ready for now... By the way, I'm from Vietnam, a Chinese.
(2) I've just tried to up to EMUI9 one more time.. But this time my phone didn't get matters at all, it's running well!
- Above all issues didn't see any more :laugh:
Things I did just simply returned to the 8 ver through HiSuite, then I used it for the ordinary days, logged in Google accounts also..
At before I was using Chinese language for the Huawei Vietnam device.. So I think it was wrong during updating something just like that, in this time I changed device back to Vietnamese language(root) & update to EMUI9 with Hicare app in the phone........... I saw something after it had updated was the update's log is writing Vietnamese while my phone was changing into Chinese language.. So funny about it! But the most important thing was everything well! No battery draining quickly too, thank gods!
- The present patch:
9.0.0.168(C636E2R1P12patch01)
- The present version:
9.0.0.168(C636E2R1P12)
*My suggestion you do not put it in Factory Reset, do not change to other locations through changing language in the phone, update it to 9EMUI based on the lastest ver of EMUI8(local) with the patches if it has. Good luck to you..
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Could you explain how to do this please?
I did factory reset my p20 pro and it seems it is the same. I have the same problems just like after the update. 1. Double tap on recent apps squere button (go to previous app instantly) is laggy often stuck on the card view instead of reloading the previous app immediately. 2. Touch screen less responsive, many times I can see a blueish 'sparking' mark or line where I touch or swipe the screen means the system detected my touch but it is not linked to the OS properly. Anyway the battery and everything else seems good. So what is otg method I tried to search but it seems not so common or they call different, and anyway how can a factory reset different than the other FR? thank you guys and happy new year!
Hi All
I wonder if I could ask a favour? The stock camera app I have on EMUI 8 (5th November update) has no method of saving the photos other than internal storage. Does the camera app on Pie have an option to save to an external location eg OTG SD card?
Thanks in anticipation...
Steve
picitup said:
Hi All
I wonder if I could ask a favour? The stock camera app I have on EMUI 8 (5th November update) has no method of saving the photos other than internal storage. Does the camera app on Pie have an option to save to an external location eg OTG SD card?
Thanks in anticipation...
Steve
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No, it doesnt have that option
Update with OTG metod and wipe, working beautiful! No issue with Pie so far!
masze said:
Update with OTG metod and wipe, working beautiful! No issue with Pie so far!
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Could you please explain how you did an otg update. Many thanks
blakeboro said:
Could you please explain how you did an otg update. Many thanks
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I used this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...ide-how-to-update-to-emui-9-c432-l09-t3883557
After the OneUI update, I find that the phone isn't as buttery smooth with its animations as it used to be. This is particularly noticeable when switching between apps or going into the app switcher screen. It's kind of choppy (but not necessarily lagging).
Anyone else experience this?
It's always recommended to full wipe (or at least wipe cache) after a major version number update. For me, this has always smoothed out most of the rough edges.
Which build are you on?
US Unlocked OneUI update.
No, I mean the last four digits of the build number. Earlier builds seem to be less smooth than the later ones. At least on Exynos; SD could be different because it's simply faster.
The only fluidity issue I really noticed on OneUI, and it's pretty terrible, is when I open the quick settings/notifications panel, from the lock screen. Oddly, it doesn't happen if you're using the stock wallpaper, but as soon as you're using a custom wallpaper, the "lag" is terrible on the lockscreen when opening that menu (like 5-10fps, super choppy).
I noticed the same thing. I didn't want to do a full wipe. The only thing I've found to help is set animations to 0 so it feels snappy again.
For me the phone startup time had more than doubled after pie upgrade. But a cache wipe made it back to normal again.
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The only fluidity I really noticed on OneUI, but it's pretty terrible, is when I open the quick settings/notifications panel, from the lock screen. Oddly, it doesn't happen if you're using the stock wallpaper, but as soon as you're using a custom wallpaper, the "lag" is terrible on the lockscreen (like 10fps).
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That's a bug in Android 9, not One UI. Or so I hear
Yep, there is not the same smoothness and feeling like it was on 8.1
Easy test : Use 8.1 with energy saver (Just cpu to 70%) and then use 9.0 with the same energy saver (Just again, only cpu to 70%) and you see the difference between Oreo and Pie instantly !
Pie is not optimized enough. It just eats 20% of our generell performance i would bet, because u can feel it.
I flashed now 8 Times between Oreo and Pie.
Every time i had the chance to see the diferences between the OS-Versions.
And the Battery is not better on pie.
(Yes, i flashed sometimes via odin clean, and sometimes over the 8.1 the ota to 9.0. So i could check the variables between clean flash and ota).
Pie is not so fluid like oreo.
And the Adaptive Brightness Problem ! (S9 and S9+ had this too, but samsung patched it later)
The RAM-Management is worst on Pie.
The OS feels like : Put a full note 7 ROM on Note 3 and use it for 1 Week....
Some kind of laggy. But not realy laggy...I do miss on pie 20FPS. This it how it feels. From 60FPS to 40/45FPS.
When u turn on the energy saver for cpu it feels like u drop from 60FPS to 35-40FPS. (Its just how i want to describe it )
When u turn on the energy saver for cpu in oreo it feels like from 60FPS to 50-60FPS. A lot smoother... (Depends on usage and user ! Gaming hits harder, i know )
I talk about dayly usage and not heavy gaming. I dont game on my smartphones but i would guess : Gaming is not so smooth with 9.0 like it was on 8.1. Can anyone tell here, wo is gaming on 9.0 and was gaming on 8.1 ??
tbh on european exynos version i think it is smoother than oreo.
for me goes perfect.... im on sd
I switched to 9.0 via OTA and then made a factory reset.
(Exynos here)
But this Time i had this bug. Persistent bug.
When u press the powerbutton to lock the device, it takes 1-1.5 sec. to lock !
Delayed. Sometimes when i flashed via odin the 9.0 or ota from 8.1 this bug happens and u can only get rid of it, when u factory reset.
I know, some people encountered the bug.
But wow, even from fresh install via odin this can be appear.
Okay, iam back on 8.1 again
But : I will wait until all the bugs on pie are killed. I do wait a few versions of pie.
Enjoying 8.1 ^^
amorosa said:
I switched to 9.0 via OTA and then made a factory reset.
(Exynos here)
But this Time i had this bug. Persistent bug.
When u press the powerbutton to lock the device, it takes 1-1.5 sec. to lock !
Delayed. Sometimes when i flashed via odin the 9.0 or ota from 8.1 this bug happens and u can only get rid of it, when u factory reset.
I know, some people encountered the bug.
But wow, even from fresh install via odin this can be appear.
Okay, iam back on 8.1 again
But : I will wait until all the bugs on pie are killed. I do wait a few versions of pie.
Enjoying 8.1 ^^
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did you actually fully flash pie filling all slot and selecting csc.md5 over home?
and by factory reset, you mean wipe data and wipe cache?(yes both)
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did you actually fully flash pie filling all slot and selecting csc.md5 over home?
and by factory reset, you mean wipe data and wipe cache?(yes both)
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Yes. Every Time a fully clean flash via CSC and not Home_CSC
So every Time after flashing it did a factory reset and i had to setup the device.
And i set it always as new device up abd i did not use app-backups.
And yes, with factory reset i mean to wipe data and cache.
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Yes. Every Time a fully clean flash via CSC and not Home_CSC
So every Time after flashing it did a factory reset and i had to setup the device.
And i set it always as new device up abd i did not use app-backups.
And yes, with factory reset i mean to wipe data and cache.
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wow ok.
then U firmware must be buggy.
international note 9 dont have this
I use the same firmware like everybody.
Used OTA's too sometimes.
International N9 (Exynos, DBT Firmware)
Bugs that i found, others found too.
We already told it samsung via Members App and they answered, that they take a look inside the software.
S9/+ had this problems too and samsung fixed it.
But not everybody had this problems. Some had this sometimes and some didnt.
Like my powerbutton issue :
Sometimes when u update to 9.0 the powerbuttonbug appears and when u press the powerbutton to lack, it will lock after 1-2sec. delay.
Sometimes the bug does not appear.
But when it appears : it wont go away until full reset.
9.0 is still buggy a bit.
At this moment iam back to 9.0 to test again and no problems for 14Hrs usage now.
No powerbutton problems, no autobrightness-problems.
Its atm just fine.
Battery loooks great too.
Strange !
This time it was ota and even no reset after it.
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But yes. Its some kind of "broken". I think its still buggy. Like it was first for the S9/+ too.
I wrote that iam on pie for 14 Hrs.
Not its a few hrs more.
No Batteryproblems (91% and 17Hrs Usage with 53Min. Screen ON. Its TOP like Oreo !)
No LockButton Bugs.
No Speedproblems.
No nothing ! In this state : I recommend fully to update to Pie.
But what i didn´t understand : I flashed nearly 10 Times now forward and back.
Every time it had some kind of problems.
I flashed 9.0 clean via odin with factory reset (csc and not home_csc).
I flashed 9.0 clean via odin with factory reset and later ota´s (Security updates. 2 or 3)
I flashed 9.0 via ota over 8.1 and let it go
I flashed it via ota over 8.1 and than do factory reset.
Every time there was one problem, that 8.1 did not had.
Battery (Without any reason, tools did tell that it was fine, but it was draining)
Speed : Feels like u miss 20FPS vs. Oreo (Dayly usage, i do not game).
Autobrightness will not work even after 10+Days. It does not remember my usage...
But now its okay. Everything works.
Maybe its the DBT. Because some of us had the same problems that i encountered.
Funfact : Every single Bug or Problem i listed here appears not in every flash. Sometimes u get the brightnessbug and sometimes lockbuttonbug, sometimes speedbug....
And yeah, some user have the brightnessbug, some does not, but using same firmware. Some have the lockbuttonbuck and some didnt. Etc...
Its just buggy. But now i had enough luck to dont have all the bugs. So i stay on Pie
Edit : Sorry for my maybe bad english, but i think its understandable. No, i hope it is :laugh:
Phazonclash said:
The only fluidity issue I really noticed on OneUI, and it's pretty terrible, is when I open the quick settings/notifications panel, from the lock screen. Oddly, it doesn't happen if you're using the stock wallpaper, but as soon as you're using a custom wallpaper, the "lag" is terrible on the lockscreen when opening that menu (like 5-10fps, super choppy).
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Already reported to samsung 100000 times even from the beta times... and they still won't fix it.
I've given this about a month now. I'm on Verizon but bought my S10e directly from Samsung, so no bloat.
Since the update these are my complaints
1. Clock on left, can't find an app to move it back to the right. (How stupid is Android / Samsung for forcing the clock in the first spot notifications appear?)
2. I can no longer swipe right on the virtual home button to switch back to the most recent app. (REALLY hate not having this anymore)
3. Can no longer adjust the grid pattern to be 3 wide for toggles when pulling the notification shade down. This means, if you have a toggle on the 6th spot on the initial toggle pull down, it CAN ONLY BE the second toggle on the second row when pulling the full list of toggles down. Super annoying if you've always had your flashlight on the far right
4. May or may not have been a change in 10, but only after updating to 10 did I notice I can no longer have exempt devices and block devices that have the WiFi password in the native hotspot app. It's all or nothing now. If this is in fact a change in 10, Android / Samsung should be ashamed of themselves. (Would love to know if this was in fact a change with v10)
5. Lock screen no longer shows Fast Charging status in perpetuity, it shows for a few seconds then reduces to just saying "charging." This phone has always been finicky with fast chargers so I rely on this information often
So the question: Can I flash back to Android P / 9 and prevent my phone from every taking 10 without having to root? I do not want a carrier-specifc firmware.
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I've given this about a month now. I'm on Verizon but bought my S10e directly from Samsung, so no bloat.
Since the update these are my complaints
1. Clock on left, can't find an app to move it back to the right. (How stupid is Android / Samsung for forcing the clock in the first spot notifications appear?)
2. I can no longer swipe right on the virtual home button to switch back to the most recent app. (REALLY hate not having this anymore)
3. Can no longer adjust the grid pattern to be 3 wide for toggles when pulling the notification shade down. This means, if you have a toggle on the 6th spot on the initial toggle pull down, it CAN ONLY BE the second toggle on the second row when pulling the full list of toggles down. Super annoying if you've always had your flashlight on the far right
4. May or may not have been a change in 10, but only after updating to 10 did I notice I can no longer have exempt devices and block devices that have the WiFi password in the native hotspot app. It's all or nothing now. If this is in fact a change in 10, Android / Samsung should be ashamed of themselves. (Would love to know if this was in fact a change with v10)
5. Lock screen no longer shows Fast Charging status in perpetuity, it shows for a few seconds then reduces to just saying "charging." This phone has always been finicky with fast chargers so I rely on this information often
So the question: Can I flash back to Android P / 9 and prevent my phone from every taking 10 without having to root? I do not want a carrier-specifc firmware.
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Finally someone else besides me that thinks Android 10 is completely worthless! Yes, you can flash back to Android 9, just flash the last Android 9 build for U1 firmware if you don't want carrier specific and freeze the forced update without root with the app "ccswe manager" found on the play store. Do note that flash back to 9 will probably erase everything too.
Someone, please call the wambulance for them 2
Player04 said:
Someone, please call the wambulance for them 2
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Haha, I like that someone thanked this post ?
If you're one who blindly takes all updates and is happy, more power to ya bro. ?
Let me guess, you loved Windows Vista when it was released
StoneyJSG said:
Finally someone else besides me that thinks Android 10 is completely worthless! Yes, you can flash back to Android 9, just flash the last Android 9 build for U1 firmware if you don't want carrier specific and freeze the forced update without root with the app "ccswe manager" found on the play store. Do note that flash back to 9 will probably erase everything too.
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Thanks! Yeah, I won't love having to set everything back up, but it will be nice to get my phone working better again!
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Thanks! Yeah, I won't love having to set everything back up, but it will be nice to get my phone working better again!
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I would suggest you to flash Android 9 back using the "HOME_CSC" package in Odin (not the "CSC" one), this way it will act as an OTA update and keep your data (I used it to update my S7 coz it was rooted and I hadn't OTA updates anymore...). Anyway, take a backup before with Samsung Cloud just to keep your data safe in case something wrong happen. Idk really if this trick works on a downgrade (Android 10 to 9 in this case) but you should give it a try
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Haha, I like that someone thanked this post ?
If your one who blindly takes all updates and is happy, more power to ya bro. ?
Let me guess, you loved Windows Vista when it was released
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Do you whine about everything new that you don't like or know how to use?
Tagdu17 said:
I would suggest you to flash Android 9 back using the "HOME_CSC" package in Odin (not the "CSC" one), this way it will act as an OTA update and keep your data (I used it to update my S7 coz it was rooted and I hadn't OTA updates anymore...). Anyway, take a backup before with Samsung Cloud just to keep your data safe in case something wrong happen. Idk really if this trick works on a downgrade (Android 10 to 9 in this case) but you should give it a try
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Actually, it doesn't matter if you flash using Home_CSC or just CSC, you'll have to wipe everything if you decide to downgrade
Really weird, i have android 10 and all the features you are talking about
spearoid said:
Haha, I like that someone thanked this post ?
If your one who blindly takes all updates and is happy, more power to ya bro.
Let me guess, you loved Windows Vista when it was released
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I updated every new released firmware. I dont have any problem with android 10. As matter of fact, i like android 10. Seems alot quicker than 9.
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Actually, it doesn't matter if you flash using Home_CSC or just CSC, you'll have to wipe everything if you decide to downgrade
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Yeah I just read it on another XDA thread yesterday but it wasn't useless to try it anyway xD
Player04 said:
I updated every new released firmware. I dont have any problem with android 10. As matter of fact, i like android 10. Seems alot quicker than 9.
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But battery drains faster... Even if I like One UI 2.0, this drain and some little bugs here and there are really annoying !
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I would suggest you to flash Android 9 back using the "HOME_CSC" package in Odin (not the "CSC" one), this way it will act as an OTA update and keep your data (I used it to update my S7 coz it was rooted and I hadn't OTA updates anymore...). Anyway, take a backup before with Samsung Cloud just to keep your data safe in case something wrong happen. Idk really if this trick works on a downgrade (Android 10 to 9 in this case) but you should give it a try
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So I've finally gotten around to trying this.... And it's been a while since my flashing days... Used to be a regular activity of mine.... But this time around, every thing I try fails. Downloaded several firmwares from Sammobile.... The XAA and XAS CSC's..... I have the unlocked direct-from-Samsung model.... And Odin craps out with Auth! (Fail) something to that effect.
I've tried AP only, all 5 files, omitting Home CSC, omitting only BL... Running Odin as admin, not running as admin.... Only thing I haven't tried is a different USB cable n.. Have actually seen that matter in the old days
Makes me think my phone simply won't take this older version of firmware, but it seems that the research indicates this should be possible
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So I've finally gotten around to trying this.... And it's been a while since my flashing days... Used to be a regular activity of mine.... But this time around, every thing I try fails. Downloaded several firmwares from Sammobile.... The XAA and XAS CSC's..... I have the unlocked direct-from-Samsung model.... And Odin craps out with Auth! (Fail) something to that effect.
I've tried AP only, all 5 files, omitting Home CSC, omitting only BL... Running Odin as admin, not running as admin.... Only thing I haven't tried is a different USB cable n.. Have actually seen that matter in the old days
Makes me think my phone simply won't take this older version of firmware, but it seems that the research indicates this should be possible
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I'm pretty sure you must use the CSC file and not the HOME_CSC. This will erase your data but if you really want to downgrade to Android 9, then that's the way to go...
Btw, if you did the February OTA update YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO PIE. Sadely, this OTA bumped a new bootloader version and if you installed it your phone will stay on Android 10 forever..
I mean, if your actual BL is like G970U1UEU4XXXX and not G970U1UES3XXXX, then it's not possible to downgrade.your S10
I actuallt froze the OTA after the January update so I can go back to Pie if I want. Not thrilled about having to wipe everything and start over if I do go back though.
I am in the same situation
So if I have bootloader 4 I can't go back to Android 9?
On my Verizon Note 9, not rooted. Holding down the power button doesn't help. I have to hold the power and vol down key to reboot phone.
Has anyone else had this issue, or have a solution?
Try booting into Recovery Mode and wipe the cache partition. If that doesn't work. Then I would manually reinstall the stock OS back onto your device as there is a chance something went wrong during the OTA installation process.
n960f exynos, im also experiencing random freezes after android 10 update. Once-twice a week. First screen doesn't show any updates, but i can feel haptic feedback, so i presume everything works underneath freezed screen, and shortly after that phone freezes completly( with screen still on) , only holding down power for 30sec seems to helps.
Unfortunately clearing cache nor fresh odin flashing of full firmware helped. I noticed it is happening while phone is warm from charging or just plain using.
wodzini said:
n960f exynos, im also experiencing random freezes after android 10 update. Once-twice a week. First screen doesn't show any updates, but i can feel haptic feedback, so i presume everything works underneath freezed screen, and shortly after that phone freezes completly( with screen still on) , only holding down power for 30sec seems to helps.
Unfortunately clearing cache nor fresh odin flashing of full firmware helped. I noticed it is happening while phone is warm from charging or just plain using.
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N960u, not a single issue with 10. Been using it since beta. So maybe the exynos version has bugs
Nope, Op has a Verizon phone...
That's US only isn't it?
Maybe Canada...
My Exynos Note 9 hasn't had any problems since I updated to 10 either but then again, different set-ups may cause different issues...
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Nope, Op has a Verizon phone...
That's US only isn't it?
Maybe Canada...
My Exynos Note 9 hasn't had any problems since I updated to 10 either but then again, different set-ups may cause different issues...
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I'm in the US (Michigan), and have a snapdragon version.
So the question is, anyone with an Exynos Chipset experiencing the same problem as this may indeed be a Snapdragon related problem( with this, admittedly limited, sample it seems so)...
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So the question is, anyone with an Exynos Chipset experiencing the same problem as this may indeed be a Snapdragon related problem( with this, admittedly limited, sample it seems so)...
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Maybe. All I know now is I'm beginning to regret updating. At first my phone was fine. But after a few days, it's sluggish. And to let me know it's not just an isolated problem, my wife's S-9 (on a different carrier) has begun to experience the same issues as my Note 9.
I swear, if it wasn't for the S-pen, I'd have gone over to Apple by now. Android is just one headache after another.
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Maybe. All I know now is I'm beginning to regret updating. At first my phone was fine. But after a few days, it's sluggish. And to let me know it's not just an isolated problem, my wife's S-9 (on a different carrier) has begun to experience the same issues as my Note 9.
I swear, if it wasn't for the S-pen, I'd have gone over to Apple by now. Android is just one headache after another.
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You can just downgrade back to pie it's not that big of deal.
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n960f exynos, im also experiencing random freezes after android 10 update. Once-twice a week. First screen doesn't show any updates, but i can feel haptic feedback, so i presume everything works underneath freezed screen, and shortly after that phone freezes completly( with screen still on) , only holding down power for 30sec seems to helps.
Unfortunately clearing cache nor fresh odin flashing of full firmware helped. I noticed it is happening while phone is warm from charging or just plain using.
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Well.. After march security updates, random freezes stopped.