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Mi5/Mi5 Pro roms compatability

Hi all.
I wonder, does the mi5 and mi5 pro uses the same roms?
I have the mi note pro (Leo) and it does not use the roms of the mi note (Virgo).
I want to buy mi5 but don't know which one.
if it uses the same roms, I will buy the pro, but if not, I will buy the mi5 because as the mi note have more roms than the mi note pro.
thanks all

I'm using a mi5 pro running CM13. There is no difference between the versions besides the Storage, RAM and the processor clock speed.
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jonkoo27 said:
I'm using a mi5 pro running CM13. There is no difference between the versions besides the Storage, RAM and the processor clock speed.
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thank you for the replay. i will download the miui8 and install it now that i know that they are the same.
hope i won't brick anything

Mi Mix 2 or Mate 10 (MIUI or EMUI?)

I know this is the Mi Mix forum and there'll be an obvious bias but I'd like to get some opinions.
I got a Huawei P10 as a gift and I'm very impressed by EMUI despite what the detractors say. As a Redmi Note 3 owner I also like MIUI a lot (once I changed that horrible launcher). It also begs the question as to who copied who in terms of functionality and customizations. Let's just say they're equal but EMUI just edges it for me.
Given that the Mix2 and Mate 10 will both be near bezel-less with excellent battery life (by reputation), which one would you get? Pros and cons of each and why? No custom roms or modding. Both stock.

It depends what you're looking for.
The Mate 10 will definitely have one of the best cameras (2 ISPs, a first for smartphones), it will also have a separate AI unit.
Kirin 970 will have 3 Cortex A73 cores - definitely no slouch in terms of performance.
BUT, Huawei is known for not having developer-friendly devices, in contrast to Xiaomi. Especially if you're looking at recovery options.
The fastboot images guarantee a restore from nearly every possible softbrick scenario.
Coming from a bricked ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe, I am quite happy with my Xiaomi Mi MIX & will probably skip the upcoming generation to climb on the SD845/Kirin 980 train.
#edit# case in point (restore options):
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-remove-emui-firmware-downloads/

Twotems said:
I know this is the Mi Mix forum and there'll be an obvious bias but I'd like to get some opinions.
I got a Huawei P10 as a gift and I'm very impressed by EMUI despite what the detractors say. As a Redmi Note 3 owner I also like MIUI a lot (once I changed that horrible launcher). It also begs the question as to who copied who in terms of functionality and customizations. Let's just say they're equal but EMUI just edges it for me.
Given that the Mix2 and Mate 10 will both be near bezel-less with excellent battery life (by reputation), which one would you get? Pros and cons of each and why? No custom roms or modding. Both stock.
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Both are torture in stock form. My 2 least favorite OS and the 3 days I had to run my mix stock felt like an eternity.

954wrecker said:
Both are torture in stock form. My 2 least favorite OS and the 3 days I had to run my mix stock felt like an eternity.
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To each his own I guess but it doesn't answer the question.

adwinp said:
It depends what you're looking for.
The Mate 10 will definitely have one of the best cameras (2 ISPs, a first for smartphones), it will also have a separate AI unit.
Kirin 970 will have 3 Cortex A73 cores - definitely no slouch in terms of performance.
BUT, Huawei is known for not having developer-friendly devices, in contrast to Xiaomi. Especially if you're looking at recovery options.
The fastboot images guarantee a restore from nearly every possible softbrick scenario.
Coming from a bricked ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe, I am quite happy with my Xiaomi Mi MIX & will probably skip the upcoming generation to climb on the SD845/Kirin 980 train.
#edit# case in point (restore options):
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-remove-emui-firmware-downloads/
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Thanks for the informative reply. Very valid points. As I said I'm not a modder but having that option with the Xiaomi may become important.

i found MI MAX 3 on sell!!!!

It's possible?
So.... yesterday i broke my mi max 4gb, 128gb rom (helium) and i found this.... it's possible?!?!?
https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Mi-Max3-4GB-64GB-Smartphone---Gold-393023.html

that's just a placeholder, there is no confirmation about any Max 3 so far

Its not available yet
the site is for pre-order you can't get the mi max 3 yet because xiaomi haven't released it yet

Be patient, about month to present a new model. Last years it was on 25 May.

ronnie72 said:
Be patient, about month to present a new model. Last years it was on 25 May.
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looking forward to what the MM3 will bring to the table hardware specs are looking VERY promising indeed!
however, MM3 owners will then have to wait again for kernel sources to be released and custom roms to be developed. so its always the decision between matured dev community or the latest hardware

@jbmc83, How long have max and max 2 waited for kernel sources ? Max 3 will have one big adventage : project tremble.

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looking forward to what the MM3 will bring to the table hardware specs are looking VERY promising indeed!
however, MM3 owners will then have to wait again for kernel sources to be released and custom roms to be developed. so its always the decision between matured dev community or the latest hardware
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I don't give a f. I will buy as soon as it's out.

Tomek0000 said:
@jbmc83, How long have max and max 2 waited for kernel sources ? Max 3 will have one big adventage : project tremble.
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Mi Max 1 took about 5 months from phone release to kernel sources release. For Mi Max 2 it was about 6-7 months.
Project Treble you mean, yeah Still hoping that it will be ported to MM2 as well, things are looking promising for that actually
ekin_strops said:
I don't give a f. I will buy as soon as it's out.
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lol, to each his/her own! im sure it will be an awesome phone, even with "just" stock MIUI rom running on it

jbmc83 said:
Mi Max 1 took about 5 months from phone release to kernel sources release. For Mi Max 2 it was about 6-7 months.
Project Treble you mean, yeah Still hoping that it will be ported to MM2 as well, things are looking promising for that actually
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Is this release initiated by xiaomi official ?
I am not sure if porting treble to MM2 is possible because of intel soc in old and qualcomm in new.

Tomek0000 said:
Is this release initiated by xiaomi official ?
I am not sure if porting treble to MM2 is possible because of intel soc in old and qualcomm in new.
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inofficial. redmi note 4 was the very first phone where treble functionality was ported. hardware is almost identical and the partition table needed for porting treble is also there on MM2. we would just need a dev to actually fill the vendor partition with the necessary drivers
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jbmc83 said:
inofficial. redmi note 4 was the very first phone where treble functionality was ported. hardware is almost identical and the partition table needed for porting treble is also there on MM2. we would just need a dev to actually fill the vendor partition with the necessary drivers
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So close, but yet so far.

Dan Ger said:
no need to worry now as xiaomi promising release kernel only 3 month after launching
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huh? when did that happen? and is that for all devices?
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i do read the news, but i cant possibly read EVERY news article there is thats why im asking
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So you dont read the news huh?..
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Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk

Introducing of Mi Max 3 is delayed to July.
https://www.gsmarena.com/xioami_ceo_mi_max_3_to_arrive_in_july-news-31187.php

Mi Max 3 on TEENA (chinese FCC) : https://www.news18.com/news/tech/xi...89-display-and-dual-rear-cameras-1785739.html

weird design if u ask me. bigger battery and display is great but those round display corners, ugh...
pierro78 said:
Mi Max 3 on TEENA (chinese FCC) : https://www.news18.com/news/tech/xi...89-display-and-dual-rear-cameras-1785739.html
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jbmc83 said:
weird design if u ask me. bigger battery and display is great but those round display corners, ugh...
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
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same screen area as 6.8 1920x1080 p8max, asus z3 ultra
narrower, taller screen (dislike the narrower format, good for holding and maybe looks but not for viewing pages)
EDIT the above is based on 6.99 diagonal...if it is a 6.9 diagonal then it will have a smaller screen area than the above two models (albeit with better band coverage am sure, and upgraded h/w and improved s/w)
A while back I had read somewhere that a 6.98 (not 6.99) was the threshold for the highest diagonal size for phone versus tablet classification (anything greater was a tablet per the carriers etc) So maybe this a 6.98 or 6.9 or something else ...maybe even smaller.

as long as the display area is not smaller than the mi max 1&2 its fine by me
mac231us said:
same screen area as 6.8 1920x1080 p8max, asus z3 ultra
narrower, taller screen (dislike the narrower format, good for holding and maybe looks but not for viewing pages)
EDIT the above is based on 6.99 diagonal...if it is a 6.9 diagonal then it will have a smaller screen area than the above two models (albeit with better band coverage am sure, and upgraded h/w and improved s/w)
A while back I had read somewhere that a 6.98 (not 6.99) was the threshold for the highest diagonal size for phone versus tablet classification (anything greater was a tablet per the carriers etc) So maybe this a 6.98 or 6.9 or something else ...maybe even smaller.
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Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk

jbmc83 said:
as long as the display area is not smaller than the mi max 1&2 its fine by me
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A 6.6 diagonal for the 18/9 format is maybe the limit at which it just gets to be about the Mi max 1/2 total screen area (narrower though) (but smaller than the honor note 8 pro 6.6 diagonal with the 16/9 format)
Huawei is supposedly working on a Mate 20 pro at 6.9 diagonal
https://www.gizchina.com/2018/06/11...en-from-samsung-destined-for-the-mate-20-pro/
so maybe the max 3 will be a 6.9 not 6.99 (anyway speculation will end soon in a couple of weeks or so it seems)

So if it don't have play store we can just add it anyway and when a global rom is out we can just flash it over there is no hardware differences ?

xiomi mi 8

Hello everybody,
I want to change phone, I have a galaxy s8 + for over a year. the galaxy s9 + is very expensive, and not enough novelties for my taste, and I see that other manufacturers like the one + and xiomi offer phones with more interesting prices.
Is the xiomi mi 8 a good choice?
thanks for your advices.

You have a S8, so a downgrade is impossible. If you just compare MIUI and Touchwiz, it's like Benz and Ford.

You coming to XDA means you know you can flash your ROM.
Mi 8 potential is very high. It will got lots of custom ROM to choose later just like the previous models.
Mi 8 with custom ROM + GCam Mod and it will rocks.

moarfish said:
You coming to XDA means you know you can flash your ROM.
Mi 8 potential is very high. It will got lots of custom ROM to choose later just like the previous models.
Mi 8 with custom ROM + GCam Mod and it will rocks.
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Stock camera seem to be pretty awesome too.

Worth getting now or wait for the Mi A3?

Is the phone worth getting now or should i wait for the next gen? It is probably just a half year.

ond96 said:
Is the phone worth getting now or should i wait for the next gen? It is probably just a half year.
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If you can wait, I would recomend it. Too many problems.

To be honest, my device doesn't have 90% of the bugs reported in these forums. I probably have one of the newer stocks of the product. The only bug that i come across on a daily basis is the unstable face unlock. Have no over heating issues, stellar performance, manageable battery life (gotta be honest, not its strong point), fantastic camera (raw with gcam), super easy to mod
I'm totally in love with this phone. Hasn't let me down in any way. But yeah, if you're able to wait for the Mi A3 then that would be better. But if you want something now, this device is worth the money. If android one isn't your prime focus then check out the redmi 7

If you want nice custom ROMs buy Mi A2, because you must wait a lot of time after Mi A3 released for TWRP and etc ...!!

I have mi a1 and mi a2, so far both phones had zero issues whatsoever, none of the bugs reported here. To be fair I'd go for the mi a2 it is a great phone, and I love it.
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If you can wait, I would recomend it. Too many problems.
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Too many bugs you expireanced your self, or to many bugs yeah heard some one that heard some one that had a friend who had another friend who possibly had the phone that might have had or might have had not any bugs?

I don't have any issue with my Mi A2, I am using stock Pie, not unlocked, not rooted. . . everything is working normal, just notification led is laggy and laggy animations when live wallpapers applied, but better buy Mi A3 xD

mi a3 is probly coming just in the autumn this year, so no probably not worth the wait. if you want a xiaomi with android one the a2 is your best bet. like others said, if you want a miui xiaomi you can find better options at the same price (poco f1, redmi notes), if you're willing to spend more look also at the nokias with android one.

I really like this phone and have zero issues with it. waiting will take 6+ months
remember that the problems reported here are specially amplified when compared with how many units xiaomi sold, and really small for all the leechers inthis forum
however, I also have the a2-nokia-equivalent, the nokia 7 plus. if you can afford the difference go for it. it has camera2api and volte enabled by default. it also has widevide l1 codec and better build quality. the update to the pie also arrived a lot faster.

tixoo said:
I have mi a1 and mi a2, so far both phones had zero issues whatsoever, none of the bugs reported here. To be fair I'd go for the mi a2 it is a great phone, and I love it.
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Too many bugs you expireanced your self, or to many bugs yeah heard some one that heard some one that had a friend who had another friend who possibly had the phone that might have had or might have had not any bugs?
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+1 :good:

ond96 said:
Is the phone worth getting now or should i wait for the next gen? It is probably just a half year.
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The Support and Development community for this device has been superb. The members here on XDA have really gone all out to make up for Xiaomi's shortcomings.
So if you can get one relatively inexpensive, go for it.

If you are willing, have patience and know how to deal with custom roms - yeah, it's a gr8 device with some issues (I don't like the vibration motor, lol)
If you want to buy it just for the official "very vell supported" android one experience - forget it... and in my opinion - forget about MI3. Buy Pixel or at least Nokia.
Now I'm rocking AOSP Extended ROM + Gcam + Lawnchair V2 Alpha + QuickSwitch Magisk Module. And device feels very smooth.
Also we just got Ressurection Remix 7.0, so I'm keeping an eye on it. ROM support is awesome here, and it keeps coming.
But... on custom ROM I haven't found a way to get a stable camera yet...
I used MI Cam, Gcam - and they have bugs... None of them support 60 FPS + EIS recording.
This is nr. 1 thing that's missing for me right now... normal bugless camera.
So yeah... it depends dude...

On thursday my Redmi 3s stopped working, i just could not power it on, so i have decided to buy a new phone, i was considering either Mi A2 or ASUS Max pro M1. This one won because better camera and Android one. I am planning to stay in stock ROM at least for a year because of the warranty, i guess this is gonna be a huge difference to previous Havoc OS.

ond96 said:
On thursday my Redmi 3s stopped working, i just could not power it on, so i have decided to buy a new phone, i was considering either Mi A2 or ASUS Max pro M1. This one won because better camera and Android one. I am planning to stay in stock ROM at least for a year because of the warranty, i guess this is gonna be a huge difference to previous Havoc OS.
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it's an easier switch compared to say... miui to android one.
i've switched to the a2 from a mido with official lineage and while i missed some things i have to say it was a pretty easy adjustment. and stock is stock. it just works.

ond96 said:
Is the phone worth getting now or should i wait for the next gen? It is probably just a half year.
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Here are my 2 rupees :laugh: and a bit of a rant which I hope clears your doubts:
I used A1 and currently using A2 with buyer's remorse (should have bought Nokia). I got both these devices for the clean Android experience and it is not turning out to be the case. A2 now has MIUI like "about phone" setting at the top in settings. There is no clear rules on how Google decides which phone will become an Android One phone. I am starting to think that this Android one project is just for the name sake, I don't see any google's direct involvement in this project, we can argue that google makes the builds and vendors just add their features but again doesn't every other manufacturer does that like Samsung and LG, they take the AOSP builds and tweak them as per their requirements (correct me if I am wrong). Monthly security patches are mandatory by google but not every manufacturer follows it. To sum it up Android One is no longer that essential or a distinctive "feature", it is a package that gives you monthly security updates and new version upgrades.
This "A" series now seems to be an upper mid-range or lower high-end one and with A2's price and chipset, it is clear that Xiaomi is starting to charge a bit of a premium (cameras are really average), so why not also wait for Google's new Pixel lite? The price will be higher but you will have developers support like anything else. A2 doesn't even have an official twrp and the developer support seems scarce to say the least. On that note, if you want custom ROM support, wait a few months after the launch, if lot of people buy it then developers will support it, A2 got shadowed by Poco (Xiaomi gave F1s to developers for free to develop ROMs for it.). A1's development got gradually better over time because it didn't had any incident like that.
The current problems with A2: Slow emmc, No camera2api support (Even nokia's, cheaper than A2, 6.1 plus has it), mono audio recording, no arcore, low headphone volume like really low, Xiaomi's freedom of changing UI interface (Android One's ambiguity), average cameras, proximity sensor, smaller battery.
If every problem is fixed in A3 i'll also buy it, heck even if they kept the same cameras and enabled cam2 api it'll be enough to give me freedom to use other camera apps like google's tweaked camera or manual camera for better utilization of camera. If they fix everything I'll also get A3 if they don't i'll look for other options and certainly not buy A2 right now

ond96 said:
Is the phone worth getting now or should i wait for the next gen? It is probably just a half year.
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it's not just half year, realistically you can probly find the a3 for sale at a decent price only in autumn. a1 launched in september 2017, a2 launched late summer, they both had normal pricing and availability just in late late autumn more like holiday season. as others pointed out, the a2-s worse nightmare was nokia and the poco f1. chances are a3 will face the same fierce competition in the form of the future f2 and whatever nokia has to say.

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it's not just half year, realistically you can probly find the a3 for sale at a decent price only in autumn. a1 launched in september 2017, a2 launched late summer, they both had normal pricing and availability just in late late autumn more like holiday season. as others pointed out, the a2-s worse nightmare was nokia and the poco f1. chances are a3 will face the same fierce competition in the form of the future f2 and whatever nokia has to say.
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actually this is a good point, the best that would convince me that waiting is not worth it
A2 128GB (which i have bought currently, cuz no SD slot) was at good price about a month before christmas.
so yeah, i would actually wait almost a year