Hello community,i had my nexus 6 for 3 years now,been through much Rom/kernel combos,and i never had this kind of lag that i have with all pie roms.Thing is i dont have much apps,maybe two non google apps and probably stock gapps package,so no bloat.With this kind of apps i never get a single hint of lag at lets say purenexus 7.1.2 and franco.Not a single stutter.And ui looks kinda same because i have pixel launchers.Dont get me wrong i know this device is old now,but if it can run 7.1.2 without lag i didnt expect it to lag this much in all pie roms,and i tryed them all,did all i could,even franco cant help eliminate lag,and i dont have encryption.And lag is serious,it happens when scrolling,i know nexus 6 is not oneplus 6t kind of device,and i know games do lag more now,but lagging in ui is just weird,my redmi 5 dont lag at all on android p custom rom,and redmi 5 is just lame compared to nexus.So my question is,do anyone else get lag?My friend also gets lag only on pie roms on his nexus 6.Is there something they did with pie to older devices,i really wish to find answer.I tryed lineage 16 and its really good,it gives new look to nexus,and thank developers from depth of my heart,but it would be soo good to eliminate this weird lag,just because i know this device is way more capable of running pie than most device that have it now.Weird thing is its sometimes very smooth and next moment it lags like hell,it seems like its running at 15 fps.
If you can help me any sort of way id be very grateful.Viva la nexus 6,my friends,lovers of shamu,best phone ever.:fingers-crossed:
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Hello community,i had my nexus 6 for 3 years now,been through much Rom/kernel combos,and i never had this kind of lag that i have with all pie roms.Thing is i dont have much apps,maybe two non google apps and probably stock gapps package,so no bloat.With this kind of apps i never get a single hint of lag at lets say purenexus 7.1.2 and franco.Not a single stutter.And ui looks kinda same because i have pixel launchers.Dont get me wrong i know this device is old now,but if it can run 7.1.2 without lag i didnt expect it to lag this much in all pie roms,and i tryed them all,did all i could,even franco cant help eliminate lag,and i dont have encryption.And lag is serious,it happens when scrolling,i know nexus 6 is not oneplus 6t kind of device,and i know games do lag more now,but lagging in ui is just weird,my redmi 5 dont lag at all on android p custom rom,and redmi 5 is just lame compared to nexus.So my question is,do anyone else get lag?My friend also gets lag only on pie roms on his nexus 6.Is there something they did with pie to older devices,i really wish to find answer.I tryed lineage 16 and its really good,it gives new look to nexus,and thank developers from depth of my heart,but it would be soo good to eliminate this weird lag,just because i know this device is way more capable of running pie than most device that have it now.Weird thing is its sometimes very smooth and next moment it lags like hell,it seems like its running at 15 fps.
If you can help me any sort of way id be very grateful.Viva la nexus 6,my friends,lovers of shamu,best phone ever.:fingers-crossed:
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I dont experience lag on Pie personally, buttery smooth for me. If you havent tried it yet, try rebooting your phone in safe mode and once its fully booted, do a boot into normal mode. I have had times with severe lag and this cleared it all up.
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I dont experience lag on Pie personally, buttery smooth for me. If you havent tried it yet, try rebooting your phone in safe mode and once its fully booted, do a boot into normal mode. I have had times with severe lag and this cleared it all up.
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May i ask what rom/kernel combo do you run?My nexus lags and gets hot on all pie roms,and that dont happen at nougat or oreo roms.I tend to run phone as lean as podsible,so i dont have apps that i dont need,and i think that shouldnt be a problem,and i see when using phone that sometimes its smooth,and next second it lags when i scroll.I restored to purenexus 7.1.2 and i doesnt have a single hickup on it,battery lasts long,and it doesnt overheat at all.Problem is i like pie more,than nougat or oreo.
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May i ask what rom/kernel combo do you run?My nexus lags and gets hot on all pie roms,and that dont happen at nougat or oreo roms.I tend to run phone as lean as podsible,so i dont have apps that i dont need,and i think that shouldnt be a problem,and i see when using phone that sometimes its smooth,and next second it lags when i scroll.I restored to purenexus 7.1.2 and i doesnt have a single hickup on it,battery lasts long,and it doesnt overheat at all.Problem is i like pie more,than nougat or oreo.
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I was running Nitrogen for a couple months till 2 days ago and I was using its stock kernel most of that time. I am now running Revolution Remix Pie with Popcorn kernel. No lag at all. I use Apex Launcher and Brave Browser. Mostly use phone for calls , texts , and youtube. No issues at all. I dont use any backups that came from Nougat or Oreo. Try what I suggested.
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I was running Nitrogen for a couple months till 2 days ago and I was using its stock kernel most of that time. I am now running Revolution Remix Pie with Popcorn kernel. No lag at all. I use Apex Launcher and Brave Browser. Mostly use phone for calls , texts , and youtube. No issues at all. I dont use any backups that came from Nougat or Oreo. Try what I suggested.
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Ok will try nitrogen,with its stock kernel,to see how it goes,hopefully it will be better than lineage or carbon. Ty,and i will try rr later if nitro lags .
shamuMNE said:
Ok will try nitrogen,with its stock kernel,to see how it goes,hopefully it will be better than lineage or carbon. Ty,and i will try rr later if nitro lags .
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Probably not as Nitrogen uses LineagOS's kernel and device repository
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Probably not as Nitrogen uses LineagOS's kernel and device repository
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You were right,it was even worse,lagging even on 100% battery,with no additional apps installed other than some basic gapps,this is becoming frustrating for me,maybe its only my device,but it makes me sad that it cant work well with pie.Can it be because its 32bit cpu?I really cant beleive that my nexus 5 on pie works like 200% better,doesnt have a hint of lag.Its kinda unbeleivable.I did all i could time to go back to my old purenexus and franco,at least it was solid and not laggy.Maybe this phone just isnt strong enough .Thank you all,if anyone has any more ideas ill gladly listen to them.And thank you elektroshmock for caring about our device,keep the good work :fingers-crossed:
For how long have you tried each pie rom? I believe that the rom runs some background optimization after install, so I wouldn't judge speed until a few days have passed.
Does it run faster when connected to power?
shamuMNE said:
You were right,it was even worse,lagging even on 100% battery,with no additional apps installed other than some basic gapps,this is becoming frustrating for me,maybe its only my device,but it makes me sad that it cant work well with pie.Can it be because its 32bit cpu?I really cant beleive that my nexus 5 on pie works like 200% better,doesnt have a hint of lag.Its kinda unbeleivable.I did all i could time to go back to my old purenexus and franco,at least it was solid and not laggy.Maybe this phone just isnt strong enough .Thank you all,if anyone has any more ideas ill gladly listen to them.And thank you elektroshmock for caring about our device,keep the good work :fingers-crossed:
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The lags have to be from your personal phone or setup. Like I said, I dont experience lag because if I did and I thought the Nexus 6 in general was uncapable of running PIE smoothly, I would have replaced it by now. Did you reboot your phone in safe mode and then back in normal mode while using a PIE rom?
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For how long have you tried each pie rom? I believe that the rom runs some background optimization after install, so I wouldn't judge speed until a few days have passed.
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Well i cant allow myself to use laggy phone for more than few hours,lets say all nougat roms i tryed ever smoothed out in few minutes,and never had lag or stutter or overheating,it seems to be the last os that worked without any problem on my phone,as oreo did work ok,but not like nougat,nor did i ever get battery life like i get on nougat.But id say oreo was acceptable.On all pie roms except maybe carbon that i used for 3 months,id get all sort of problems,cracking top speaker on 40% battery,shuting off at 35%(battery is not bad as this never happens except on pie),and as i saw pie roms with different kernels,do have strange cpu behavior,shutting of cores,settings not sticking when applied in kernel manager apps,i disabled mpdecision,still same,i lock cpu on max,set governor to performance,gpu governor also performance,i did everything i knew(not to brag but i think i know a lot about this device)but i think my unit which was first batch even tho i bought it later as new,it has some weird electricity,power delivery issuses,it seems like it needs more power(voltage?)then the battery can provide.And this speaker electricity crackle annoys me.When it makes that sound i think its gonna burn or something,because that sort of sound is same like when you hear electrical sparkles and it starts to lag heavily,never ever i got this strange sound on any phone i had.And when using on my turbo charger it gets so hot i think i would be able to fry egg on it without any problem.
@Derrick
I did all you told me,started in safe mode on pie nitrogen,but even in safe mode it lagged heavily,i dont really know what happens with my shamu and on pie i think i got 58 celsius on battery and 87 celsius on cpu i thought thing is gonna burn to ashes.Same second i revert to pure nexus and franco it becames ultra smooth,and ultra cold now i have 23 celsius on battery,and 35 on cpu.Just very weird,because performance on nougat tells me my device is more then acceptable of running everything smoothly,but for some reason pie roms breaks it into half.I think i heard something about opengl(skia)render on pie making it lag.If someone knows how to force old opengl to use it on pie tell me,i think ill try that if i get any information on how to do it.
Thank you for trying to help me guys .
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Well i cant allow myself to use laggy phone for more than few hours,lets say all nougat roms i tryed ever smoothed out in few minutes,and never had lag or stutter or overheating,it seems to be the last os that worked without any problem on my phone,as oreo did work ok,but not like nougat,nor did i ever get battery life like i get on nougat.But id say oreo was acceptable.On all pie roms except maybe carbon that i used for 3 months,id get all sort of problems,cracking top speaker on 40% battery,shuting off at 35%(battery is not bad as this never happens except on pie),and as i saw pie roms with different kernels,do have strange cpu behavior,shutting of cores,settings not sticking when applied in kernel manager apps,i disabled mpdecision,still same,i lock cpu on max,set governor to performance,gpu governor also performance,i did everything i knew(not to brag but i think i know a lot about this device)but i think my unit which was first batch even tho i bought it later as new,it has some weird electricity,power delivery issuses,it seems like it needs more power(voltage?)then the battery can provide.And this speaker electricity crackle annoys me.When it makes that sound i think its gonna burn or something,because that sort of sound is same like when you hear electrical sparkles and it starts to lag heavily,never ever i got this strange sound on any phone i had.And when using on my turbo charger it gets so hot i think i would be able to fry egg on it without any problem.
@Derrick
I did all you told me,started in safe mode on pie nitrogen,but even in safe mode it lagged heavily,i dont really know what happens with my shamu and on pie i think i got 58 celsius on battery and 87 celsius on cpu i thought thing is gonna burn to ashes.Same second i revert to pure nexus and franco it becames ultra smooth,and ultra cold now i have 23 celsius on battery,and 35 on cpu.Just very weird,because performance on nougat tells me my device is more then acceptable of running everything smoothly,but for some reason pie roms breaks it into half.I think i heard something about opengl(skia)render on pie making it lag.If someone knows how to force old opengl to use it on pie tell me,i think ill try that if i get any information on how to do it.
Thank you for trying to help me guys .
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To me, it sounds like its a good time to buy another phone.
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To me, it sounds like its a good time to buy another phone.
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It probably would be good time if it was lagging on nougat,but i can keep it for some more time,i think i wont even sold it like i did with other phones i had(it will stay with me just like my nexus 5),it really is my favourite phone,even tho its not perfect by any means.I thought about possible new phone and i hate new trends of bezeless screens,and especially i hate 18+:9 screen ratios,it makes phone look like tv remote,and there isnt much phones that fall into these categories.And of all the good phones i think the one id get is probably pixel/pixel xl and pixel 2 but every one of them is plagued by its own set of hardware problems,and that makes me unsure about possible purchase.
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.On all pie roms except maybe carbon that i used for 3 months,id get all sort of problems,cracking top speaker on 40% battery,shuting off at 35%(battery is not bad as this never happens except on pie),and as i saw pie roms with different kernels,do have strange cpu behavior,shutting of cores,settings not sticking when applied in kernel manager apps,i disabled mpdecision,still same,i lock cpu on max,set governor to performance,gpu governor also performance,i did everything i knew(not to brag but i think i know a lot about this device).
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I wonder what makes Carbon so special, because it's using LineageOS's Kernel and devicetree for shamu.
I don't know which Pie ROM you're using now, but at least LineageOS for shamu doesn't want you to fiddle with kernel settings.
If you choose to do so there is a very high chance your cpu freqs get stuck at very high levels, which causes your devices temperature to rise, which causes thermal deamon to kick in and limit your maximum freqs.
In general no matter how much you think you know about your device before you fiddle with any setting you should ask yourself "why didn't the device maintainer set it in the first place"
Elektroschmock said:
I wonder what makes Carbon so special, because it's using LineageOS's Kernel and devicetree for shamu.
I don't know which Pie ROM you're using now, but at least LineageOS for shamu doesn't want you to fiddle with kernel settings.
If you choose to do so there is a very high chance your cpu freqs get stuck at very high levels, which causes your devices temperature to rise, which causes thermal deamon to kick in and limit your maximum freqs.
In general no matter how much you think you know about your device before you fiddle with any setting you should ask yourself "why didn't the device maintainer set it in the first place"
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Truth be told,i surely know less than you do about this device,and i said it didnt cause me problems with mostly battery.At least thats how i remember it,it gave me less problems for some reason than all other pie roms.But after some time it started doing the same thing like all other roms and that made it unusable so i got back to nougat which im using today even tho i like pie more,design wise.Nougat has much better performance and much better battery life while also not overheating.Id really love that pie works like nougat,but if it isnt its not end of world for me,ill still happilly use shamu on nougat.Maybe lags are only on my device,but i cant find any reason that it happens,i tryed all i potentially know,and its not shame to accept that i dont know everything,thats why i asked people here that probably know way more than i do.I with my minimal knowledge suspect that shamus CPU is culprit here,being 32bit,and maybe new renderer in pie which cause system lag for me and some other guys.My friend lags on stock pie,stock kernel on his pixel 2 xl,thats just not acceptable.Google software+google phone(hardware) and it causes lag on snapdragon 835,its not weird that it lags on 6 year old,ancient 805 which is hardly any stronger that nexus 5 snap 800,but nexus 5 have 1080p and shamu 2k screen,and that probably causes problems for nex6.Being first batch of 2k screen devices i think system on chip that they put in it wasnt ready for what it needed to do.Just my thoughts.
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Hello.
My T-Mobile G4 has had 6.0 Marshmallow since February. I've noticed since I've updated to Marshmallow that the performance is definitely worse than Lollipop, particularly in gaming. Games will seem to run fine for about 30 seconds or so, then the framerate just completely goes out of whack. These aren't little micro stutters, but jumpy, jittery, and wobbly graphics problems. I was able to run the FPS meter app to see what the games were running at. Sure enough, the game (I tested Hill Climb Racing with the fps app, but the issues exist in every game I've tried. 2D and 3D) would run at 59-60 fps for about 30 seconds, then when the jitters started, it went down to 51 fps according to the app.
Now, I've seen these same jittery scrolling issues on Dolphin Browser (other browsers too, but to a lesser degree), Gmail, QuickPic, YouTube, Google+, and even the freaking home screen. I've factory reset multiple times and ran the phone without installing any apps, tested the phone in safe mode, cleared the cache, removed the sd card, formatted the sd card, switched batteries, turned on airplane mode, toggled game optimizer, toggled some developer options, and even went through 3 different warranty exchanges (two manufactured in May 2015 and my current one from July 2015). The ONLY THING that seems to help is time. The longer I have the phone on (maybe about 5 days to a week), the better chance the phone has of smoothing out. I kept the phone on for 35 days straight recently because I knew it would get sluggish again if I restarted and I was right. I unfortunately had to restart due to a WiFi issue.
The main reason I'm posting here is because I haven't gotten an answer anywhere else. Apparently, either everyone else has a G4 that actually performs just fine on Marshmallow or they just don't seem to notice (not sure how they couldn't, considering how obvious the graphics problems are).
Is it a kernel/governor issue? Perhaps there's a developer that can tell me what's going on with the phone?
...Anyone?
Larry L said:
...Anyone?
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read this thread..:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/g4-unusable-gaming-extremely-low-fps-mm-t3405733
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read this thread..:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/g4-unusable-gaming-extremely-low-fps-mm-t3405733
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Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, they don't seem to provide any solution (maybe root), but it at least shows that I'm not the only one with these performance irregularities.
Larry L said:
Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, they don't seem to provide any solution (maybe root), but it at least shows that I'm not the only one with these performance irregularities.
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i think its MM..
raptorddd said:
i think its MM..
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Are all MM phones having performance problems in some way? I've heard that phones like the Nexus 6P have pretty much flawless performance. I've heard that the Oneplus 3 is like butter too.
Is MM just crippling older SOC's like the 808?
Larry L said:
Are all MM phones having performance problems in some way? I've heard that phones like the Nexus 6P have pretty much flawless performance. I've heard that the Oneplus 3 is like butter too.
Is MM just crippling older SOC's like the 808?
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not sure never been on MM when i got my phone, i flash LP just for root. and cause i read that battery isnt good and performance.. it could be.. and that it isnt optimized... theres new 20o firmware not sure how it works... but be aware that once you flash 20o thers no going back to LP.. as long as you on 20i you can go back to LP 10N otherwise youll brick your phone 20i adn 10N are antirollback V2 the new 20o its V3.
This is by far the biggest surprise my Redmi 2 gave me:
This game shows the min requirements as 2GB RAM. But yeah I do know we could somehow manage with 1 GB. So, for a better performance I was using CM 13 and decided to start playing the game. But the game lagged a lot, battles were like impossible to be made. I even tried few other ROMS like Nexus, RR, Slim and Snapshot( this was a bit better). I wasn't satisfied but then I shifted to MIUI as I wanted to test the new MIUI 8. But when I started playing the game here, it stopped lagging :fingers-crossed: ( It seldom lags). I couldn't believe it. My friend asked me if its lagging on my phone while he was using RR. I told him the same and it surprised him the same way it did to me. Did anyone else notice this? Anyone with custom ROMS able to play lag-free?
i'm able. it's ok in the most of the time. but my redmi 2 is pro version.
Akhil916 said:
This is by far the biggest surprise my Redmi 2 gave me:
This game shows the min requirements as 2GB RAM. But yeah I do know we could somehow manage with 1 GB. So, for a better performance I was using CM 13 and decided to start playing the game. But the game lagged a lot, battles were like impossible to be made. I even tried few other ROMS like Nexus, RR, Slim and Snapshot( this was a bit better). I wasn't satisfied but then I shifted to MIUI as I wanted to test the new MIUI 8. But when I started playing the game here, it stopped lagging :fingers-crossed: ( It seldom lags). I couldn't believe it. My friend asked me if its lagging on my phone while he was using RR. I told him the same and it surprised him the same way it did to me. Did anyone else notice this? Anyone with custom ROMS able to play lag-free?
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custom roms....
Orion mm latest build (cam also good)
tipsy
and plus point in these custom roms ---u can use fake gps also...i used n tested...so i m saying...
I love the pure Android experience, but I also came back to MIUI (now MIUI 8 beta) because apps seems to lag less.
I'm playing Pokémon GO but my problem is with GPS, sometime it doesn't fix or stuck and I need to restart the game.
YOu can try on miui 7 i play on that
I installed Orion in my phone and performance on Pokémon GO is worse than with MIUI 7/8.
i'm currently playing in miui 8 latest update, and it seems fine, except when you are under the sun and charging the phone then the cpu throttles xD
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-2/help/redmi-2-1gb-pokemon-miui-vs-android-m-t3437597
saurabh1234 said:
custom roms....
Orion mm latest build (cam also good)
tipsy
and plus point in these custom roms ---u can use fake gps also...i used n tested...so i m saying...
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I tried Fake GPS on MIUI and it works fine here as well. I'll try Orion as you said cam will be better too.
Strokesws said:
I love the pure Android experience, but I also came back to MIUI (now MIUI 8 beta) because apps seems to lag less.
I'm playing Pokémon GO but my problem is with GPS, sometime it doesn't fix or stuck and I need to restart the game.
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I had that problem early on when I just started using MIUI. Later, it went well. I used to turn from High accuracy to other modes and then switch back. It worked sometimes.
igorinolw said:
i'm currently playing in miui 8 latest update, and it seems fine, except when you are under the sun and charging the phone then the cpu throttles xD
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Oh yeah, this happens with a lot of phones. Data + GPS + good graphics with sun
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-2/help/redmi-2-1gb-pokemon-miui-vs-android-m-t3437597
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This could really help. Btw, how about CM11 then? Have you tested on it?
Hi guys, now that I'm really desperate and gave up, I want to ask you all if you guys know a single ROM that can play vainglory without any issue, I literally have tried all ROMS in this forum, but nothing could satisfie me, maybe JDC 7.1 is an exception, its a perfect ROM for playing games, but in long term of use, it started to slowed down, and issues occurred, so any of you guys know which ROM, or maybe a best configuration to play vainglory without any issues like lags, thermal throttled, and high ping issue? Or is it just me? Or maybe I bought a wrong phone for gaming? The snapdragon 820 in this Mi 5 really gave me boner but now that its not sound so awesome anymore, even Redmi note 4x could play this game without any issue at all. Thank you in advance guys
did u tried Purefusion OS? or CRDROID ? Both are a great ROM, and i play all those game without any issue.
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did u tried Purefusion OS? or CRDROID ? Both are a great ROM, and i play all those game without any issue.
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Could you give me the link to those ROM sir?
The361 said:
Could you give me the link to those ROM sir?
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Crdroid : https://sourceforge.net/projects/cc0705/files/CRDROID/
For purefusion, you can found it on mi 5 section on xda
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Hi guys, now that I'm really desperate and gave up, I want to ask you all if you guys know a single ROM that can play vainglory without any issue, I literally have tried all ROMS in this forum, but nothing could satisfie me, maybe JDC 7.1 is an exception, its a perfect ROM for playing games, but in long term of use, it started to slowed down, and issues occurred, so any of you guys know which ROM, or maybe a best configuration to play vainglory without any issues like lags, thermal throttled, and high ping issue? Or is it just me? Or maybe I bought a wrong phone for gaming? The snapdragon 820 in this Mi 5 really gave me boner but now that its not sound so awesome anymore, even Redmi note 4x could play this game without any issue at all. Thank you in advance guys
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Saying Issues u mean FPS drop? Im playing similiar game Mobile Legends and I had same problem.. after 10min cpu throttled like sh*t with gpu.. both went down gpu from 624mhz to 410 and cpu from 2.1 to 1.6. I found solution here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/how-to-disable-thermal-throttling-t3636574
On every rom I just delete these 2 files and everything is fine - phone is not even HOT when playin. Im using it for like 3 months or more and its awesome.. 60fps without lags even if im playin 2/3hours from 100% to 0% battery. u should try if u want to play mobas on mi5 ))))
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Crdroid : https://sourceforge.net/projects/cc0705/files/CRDROID/
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Okay, tried crdroid 7.1 and its fast, true, but not fast enough, and purefusion 7.1 is at the same speed compared to JDC 7.1, i think it's because "EAS" similarity, i dont know for a long time usage, soon i will find out if this rom is really the rom that i looking for or not, thank you so much sir, oh btw i read in the purefusion thread that using bb kernel is recomended, i mean, how bis is the difference with using it?
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Saying Issues u mean FPS drop? Im playing similiar game Mobile Legends and I had same problem.. after 10min cpu throttled like sh*t with gpu.. both went down gpu from 624mhz to 410 and cpu from 2.1 to 1.6. I found solution here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/how-to-disable-thermal-throttling-t3636574
On every rom I just delete these 2 files and everything is fine - phone is not even HOT when playin. Im using it for like 3 months or more and its awesome.. 60fps without lags even if im playin 2/3hours from 100% to 0% battery. u should try if u want to play mobas on mi5 ))))
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Yeah, i already knew about that sir, but i dont know, my phone seem stuttering for a long term usage, i tried with JDC 7.1 and Viver OS, on both ROMs i deleted those files, but still, after a while the lags came back., but thank you for answering
I am also searching for this one, but for another game haha, I bought it for playing Rules of survival but while playing fps drops, i tried on several roms but still didnt find solution, i would be glad if you tell me if you find any solution?
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I am also searching for this one, but for another game haha, I bought it for playing Rules of survival but while playing fps drops, i tried on several roms but still didnt find solution, i would be glad if you tell me if you find any solution?
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I can't say for sure for now my friend, now im using purefusion os 7.1 and deleted thermal files, its on day 2 now i think, and the only issue i got is the force close apps sometimes like 9 gag, youtube and i cant delete a system app like google camera, i want to change it to the updated version, tried to delete it with link2sd, didnt work, and the gesture setting is force close when i open it, but regarding to gaming performance, its great, at least for now even tho its warm , but acceptable, will report here about 1 or two weeks my friend
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I can't say for sure for now my friend, now im using purefusion os 7.1 and deleted thermal files, its on day 2 now i think, and the only issue i got is the force close apps sometimes like 9 gag, youtube and i cant delete a system app like google camera, i want to change it to the updated version, tried to delete it with link2sd, didnt work, and the gesture setting is force close when i open it, but regarding to gaming performance, its great, at least for now even tho its warm , but acceptable, will report here about 1 or two weeks my friend
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Ok ill wait for your update, i usually play with charging my battery, will it be alright if i remove thermal for that?
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Mi devices works better with MIUI... That's just the way it is. Custom rom experience on Mi can't compare with the likes of Oneplus, Nexus, or maybe Pixel...
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u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. Or try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
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All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. r try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
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Thanks for a constructive reply. I am not using LOS because of the fingerprint delay bug, also i found LOS to be the laggiest of them all. But i recently installed Cosmic os 8.1, and this one seems to be rendering fine. It is using the priima kernel i suppose, with interactive governors and cfq for io scheduling. Also, i just checked, it has oc'ed the sd820 to normal frequencies (2.15 and .16)
Also, i have tried Floppy kernel, based on all 3, Google, linaro and ubertc. Also, i tried switching the governor to zen(the one i am aware of thats made to make your ui smoother). This issue is not only persistent with oreo roms, but also the nougat roms. But i have been happy and impressed by cosmic, but i will keep on switching roms and hopefully would be able to provide some feedback to the XDA community.
vaisakmct said:
u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
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I will try that one. Can you link me to the module thread?
aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
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Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
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So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
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So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
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Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
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Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
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Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
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Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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Interesting. I am busy this weekend, but i will surely test this one after i come back.
Yes
aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
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Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
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Try the cosmic os. It seems to be working amazingly well. Also Los never worked for me, full of stutters and the ofc the fingerprint delay on lockscreen issue. Also yeah, jdc aosp should work, in my experiments, all AOSP based roms are working fine, there is some issue with Los kernel, and hence with all roms based off of it.
I live in hot city in india. I have been experiencing alot of heat lately in back where CPU is located. It's always 40c battery as well as CPU both stays on 40c. Please let me know if there is some tweak to reduce heat. I dont do much gaming. I use it for chatting and watching videos mostly surfing YT or surfing internet. it makes me paranoid whenever it gets heat up i m always forced to keep it aside till it gets cool down. I am requesting to any developers here to make a tweak or make a kernel for users like me as it will be soo helpful for many people who dont like to feel heat while surfing on net. Please do look into it.
Also do tell me if there is a good rom. I dont care about latest android version or latest security patch all i want is i should be able to chat or surf without feeling that heat in my hand because it just ruins everything for me.
I am using official LOS 15.1 and am satisfied with it from a heat perspective.
The only time I maybe encounter unusual heating is when the NSA is hacking my phone to spy on me. *joke* What I then usually do is just to shut down my phone and leave it off for a couple of minutes.
You should look to update your firmware to the latest available Global version.
It is otherwise a good idea to reinstall your phone. You never know if you picked up some malware through dodgy apps that is causing the problem or if some apps are just rubbish.
I Use Xiaomi EU
No issues of heating except if you Play games.
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I Use Xiaomi EU
No issues of heating except if you Play games.
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Stable or developer version?
rom PE official latest update
I installed "crDroidAndroid-9.0-20190613-santoni-v5.5" yesterday.
In my country, the temperature is not so high during this time.
heat is normal when you use it
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I live in hot city in india. I have been experiencing alot of heat lately in back where CPU is located. It's always 40c battery as well as CPU both stays on 40c. Please let me know if there is some tweak to reduce heat. I dont do much gaming. I use it for chatting and watching videos mostly surfing YT or surfing internet. it makes me paranoid whenever it gets heat up i m always forced to keep it aside till it gets cool down. I am requesting to any developers here to make a tweak or make a kernel for users like me as it will be soo helpful for many people who dont like to feel heat while surfing on net. Please do look into it.
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Use kernel adiutor to tweak settings. Or use a custom thermal mod
Hey. Peeps! Thanks for kind response. I read all your suggestions! I m using Lineage OS latest official build. I dont do gaming its battery efficient also it has quick charge support, on ampere app readings says 1800ma. I m thinking of using MIUI now, i have used EU rom and trust me Lineage OS is better in terms of battery backup. Crdroid, umm, thanks @mcjohn, i will try this.
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. CrDroid, umm, thanks @mcjohn, i will try this.
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Read my last post ?
I do not recommend CrDroid.
It's an unstable ROM.
Wait for an update.
Yesterday I installed "COSP".
I do not know how behave !?
McJohn.br said:
Read my last post!
I do not recommend CrDroid.
It's an unstable ROM.
Wait for an update.
Yesterday I installed "COSP".
I do not know how behave !?
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I actually tried it.. Not bad , not good. Lineage OS is the best currently. I m thinking of trying out pixel experience rom, i have seen people claiming it has good battery backup.
Btw, dont ever use miui official rom. It sucks the battery so quickly. -_- I m currently on stable miui global rom and trust me it has worst battery backup.
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I actually tried it.. Not bad , not good. Lineage OS is the best currently. I m thinking of trying out pixel experience rom, i have seen people claiming it has good battery backup.
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I installed several ROMs.
Everywhere, I posted my opinion on settings or battery!
"Somebody" criticized me because I was too subjective !
Try some software, then stop at the one you like.
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Amit_mishra said:
Btw, dont ever use miui official rom. It sucks the battery so quickly. -_- I m currently on stable miui global rom and trust me it has worst battery backup.
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I used the MIUI ROM when I bought the phone until I unlocked the boot charger. . . Then I install another ROM every month.
Or, maybe 2-3 ROMs per week !
Look at my pictures and see how the battery is consumed, how the phone heats up, or the settings that are missing from the menu.