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Mi 8 or mi mix 2s

I haven't decide yet witch to buy.
I don't like the notch but i think mi 8 is better and i can find mi 8 with only 20$ higher price.
I have oneplus 5t now.

xristos9 said:
I haven't decide yet witch to buy.
I don't like the notch but i think mi 8 is better and i can find mi 8 with only 20$ higher price.
I have oneplus 5t now.
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Mi 8 just for the AMOLED HDR display. Also to show off to your friends for the 3D face unlock. Or if you're really into the animoji stuff then good for you.
Unless you really hate the notch, mi 8 is the obvious choice. That dual gps things seems very cool if it actually works correctly

I don't actually hate notch because i have never used any phone with it but i think it's like a bitten screen.
Maybe i will use to it.
Mix 2s is far more beautiful but mi 8 is better.
All mi 8 have 3d face unlock and animoji or only the explorer?

xristos9 said:
I don't actually hate notch because i have never used any phone with it but i think it's like a bitten screen.
Maybe i will use to it.
Mix 2s is far more beautiful but mi 8 is better.
All mi 8 have 3d face unlock and animoji or only the explorer?
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Mi 8 do, Mi 8 SE don't.

_katho_ said:
Mi 8 do, Mi 8 SE don't.
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Mi 8 and Mi 8 explorer does. but not Mi 8 SE as you said.

Can we buy this version and after when it's released to install the eu rom?
Because now doesn't have global version.
It's possible to buy it now and after just flash the eu rom or i will have a problem?

xristos9 said:
Can we buy this version and after when it's released to install the eu rom?
Because now doesn't have global version.
It's possible to buy it now and after just flash the eu rom or i will have a problem?
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Yes.
No, you will not have a problem.

The mi8 has IR face unlock and the EE has 3D face unlock.

The Mi8 got mono speaker and cheap mic, the better front camera and the rest is almost the same, feels better in hand but I will buy Mi Mix 2s.

i think mi mix 2s far more beautiful and it no have notch, i hate notch

mr.nth.na.vn said:
i think mi mix 2s far more beautiful and it no have notch, i hate notch
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Well, then I think you are in the wrong forum section.

I ordered mi 8 finally. Ok mi 8 has notch but I think offers more than mix 2s.

xristos9 said:
I ordered mi 8 finally. Ok mi 8 has notch but I think offers more than mix 2s.
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Think you will be happy with it, picked mine up today and have it setup now.

Enjoy the monster.
I can't wait to pick up mine!!!
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xristos9 said:
I ordered mi 8 finally. Ok mi 8 has notch but I think offers more than mix 2s.
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A better front camera, broken GPS for now, no dual speaker, no wireless charging, longer and no ceramic. It offers less than Mix 2s and it is about 60€ cheaper, for good reason.

Klanac89 said:
A better front camera, broken GPS for now, no dual speaker, no wireless charging, longer and no ceramic. It offers less than Mix 2s and it is about 60€ cheaper, for good reason.
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better screen

Starting to regret buying the Mi8 a little. They both have same rear cameras right?

ermacwins said:
Starting to regret buying the Mi8 a little. They both have same rear cameras right?
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Yes as they said.

ois?
both phones have optical stabilization?

ermacwins said:
Starting to regret buying the Mi8 a little. They both have same rear cameras right?
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Why?
miguelAr52 said:
both phones have optical stabilization?
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Yes.
You can compare specs here; https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9067&idPhone2=9065

Xiaomi Mi 8 vs. S9+ in DxOMark

Hello
Does Xiaomi Mi 8 make such good photos/videos as Samsung Galaxy S9+ (according to DxoMark it should make the same, both phones achieved 99 points in photo/video category)?
Thanks

androidbadboy said:
Hello
Does Xiaomi Mi 8 make such good photos/videos as Samsung Galaxy S9+ (according to DxoMark it should make the same, both phones achieved 99 points in photo/video category)?
Thanks
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Nope. Samsung videos are unbeatable according to reviewers. Photos might be better on the mi8.
It has a 105 dxomark for photo. Video dragged it down.
Also, techtablets made a video on the mi8 vs op6, the audio recording capabilities of the mi8 are very very bad (might be a software issue). You should check out that video.

still_living said:
Nope. Samsung videos are unbeatable according to reviewers. Photos might be better on the mi8.
It has a 105 dxomark for photo. Video dragged it down.
Also, techtablets made a video on the mi8 vs op6, the audio recording capabilities of the mi8 are very very bad (might be a software issue). You should check out that video.
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So I assume that Mi Mix 2s is not better in that.

androidbadboy said:
So I assume that Mi Mix 2s is not better in that.
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same problem with mix 2s

still_living said:
same problem with mix 2s
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oh
But does Xiaomi prepre some fix/update to improve cam quality>?

androidbadboy said:
oh
But does Xiaomi prepre some fix/update to improve cam quality>?
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Not sure buddy. Gotta follow the reviews yourself or ask someone who has a phone on xda.

still_living said:
Not sure buddy. Gotta follow the reviews yourself or ask someone who has a phone on xda.
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I've just heard rumors that Xiaomi is preparing such thing. But it's a rumor!

Manual mode is not as good as even my old Mate 8. Huawei's V10 is better.

Freeje said:
Manual mode is not as good as even my old Mate 8. Huawei's V10 is better.
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How about AUTO MODE?
I only take pics in that mode. The only thing I could want to set is flashlight.

androidbadboy said:
How about AUTO MODE?
I only take pics in that mode. The only thing I could want to set is flashlight.
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For the price it's the best, only thing comparable to it is the op6b but that phone is priced at little higher. If you don't do much video just buy this phone you'll be very happy with it.

still_living said:
For the price it's the best, only thing comparable to it is the op6b but that phone is priced at little higher. If you don't do much video just buy this phone you'll be very happy with it.
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You're talking about Mi Mix 2s or Mi 8?

Auto mode
androidbadboy said:
How about AUTO MODE?
I only take pics in that mode. The only thing I could want to set is flashlight.
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You can't freeze the action using auto mode. Sometimes you get lucky. The auto mode of Huawei Mate 10 is quite good and the phone can take good action shots.
The reason why I didn't get this phone is I can't get K9 mail to work unless you use the global ROM. With the Mi 8, K9 works but only sometimes. It's a step up from my Mate 8 though except for the manual mode. Might have to use the global ROM too but unlocking the boot loader takes a long time!

Freeje said:
You can't freeze the action using auto mode. Sometimes you get lucky. The auto mode of Huawei Mate 10 is quite good and the phone can take good action shots.
The reason why I didn't get this phone is I can't get K9 mail to work unless you use the global ROM. With the Mi 8, K9 works but only sometimes. It's a step up from my Mate 8 though except for the manual mode. Might have to use the global ROM too but unlocking the boot loader takes a long time!
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What brand and model you are reffering to in freezing?
Unlocking bootloader takes a long time in which brand?
Cause if You have Xiaomi just fill a request form in case you'd have to wait many days. You might get lucky and get it quickly.

androidbadboy said:
You're talking about Mi Mix 2s or Mi 8?
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Mi8 of course. Mix 2s is higher priced

still_living said:
Mi8 of course. Mix 2s is higher priced
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Mi 8 has at least 3 different (sub)models.
Isnt the most expensive Mi8 better than Mi Mix 2s?

androidbadboy said:
Mi 8 has at least 3 different (sub)models.
Isnt the most expensive Mi8 better than Mi Mix 2s?
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The most expensive will be the explorers edition with a transparent back and an in-display fingerprint sensor, also with a smaller battery (3000mah).
I'm in HK and for me here the mi8 is a lot cheaper. You can just check their website and compare prices.
Mi 8 6gb + 128gb = HK$3,699
Mi mix 2s 6gb+ 128gb = HK$4,399
Mi mix 2s uses ceramic on the back I think that's why it's more expensive.
The explorers edition is not out yet so no prices on that.
The lowest end which is the mi8 se has an all together different design and a different chipset(snapdragon 710), first released on this phone itself.

still_living said:
The most expensive will be the explorers edition with a transparent back and an in-display fingerprint sensor, also with a smaller battery (3000mah).
I'm in HK and for me here the mi8 is a lot cheaper. You can just check their website and compare prices.
Mi 8 6gb + 128gb = HK$3,699
Mi mix 2s 6gb+ 128gb = HK$4,399
Mi mix 2s uses ceramic on the back I think that's why it's more expensive.
The explorers edition is not out yet so no prices on that.
The lowest end which is the mi8 se has an all together different design and a different chipset(snapdragon 710), first released on this phone itself.
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IS the lowest Mi8 capable of taking good photos such as the top Mi8?

androidbadboy said:
IS the lowest Mi8 capable of taking good photos such as the top Mi8?
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If you mean Mi 8 SE, no.
Mi 8 and Mi 8 EE is the same.

_katho_ said:
If you mean Mi 8 SE, no.
Mi 8 and Mi 8 EE is the same.
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But in Mi 8 SE is Snapdragon 7xx but the dual rear cameras should be the same cause the CPU, SOC doesnt afffect the can right/

androidbadboy said:
But in Mi 8 SE is Snapdragon 7xx but the dual rear cameras should be the same cause the CPU, SOC doesnt afffect the can right/
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It's not the same camera modules in Mi 8 SE. So as I wrote, no. Mi 8 and Mi 8 EE have the same.

Xiaomi redmi note 8 pro or xiaomi mi cc9 (9 lite)

Hello all !
I need some help!
I'm in need of a new phone and came to the conclusion I wanted a Xiaomi. After watching some video's I came to the conclusion I wanted the Mi CC9 (Mi 9 Lite) so I've just ordered the 64gb variant.
After doing some further research I've discovered I could've got a Redmi Note 8 Pro for only £8 more.
Do you think I should cancel my order and get the Note 8 Pro? The dust and splash resistant is something I could really do with as I hate the fear of potential water damage from rain.
Also even though the Note 8 Pro features a 4500 maH battery and the Mi 9 Lite only has a 4030 maH battery which do you think will last longer? Considering it has a bigger screen and a more demanding processor do you think that the 9 Lite battery will still be better?

Note 8 pro. CC9 doesn't have support for google cameras ( buffer 3 )

The note 8 pro has got a Mediathek processor which have (at least it's predecessors) been known for overheating and poor efficiency (mostly noticable when used very heavily). Some tests say the same but it's up to you if you believe them. Considering the screen size and amoled technology as well as the more efficient processor I'd actually think that the cc9 (mi 9 lite) has better battery life.
I've actually ordered the mi 9 lite which will arrive in around 2-3 weeks. Then I'll be able to give further information. The reason I've gotten the mi 9 lite instead of the 8 pro are:
1. Screen size (didn't want such a big screen)
2. Amoled display
3. In display fingerprint sensor
4. Snapdragon processor
5. Battery life on both phones will definitely get me through the day so that wasn't really anything I've kept in mind whilst deciding
Hope this helps

Good question!
I'm not really knowledgeable yet, but I have read somewhere that the Mediatek processor ( Note 8 pro ) doesn't have much support for custom Roms.
Once the development of LineageOS for the Mi 9 lite has started seriously, I would love to get one.

Or it is best to wait for a bit......
https://www.notebookcheck.net/A-gli...ophone-F2-speculation-off-again.435678.0.html

Mi 8 to Mi note 10, is it worth to change?

Hello guys,
My question is, is it worth to change my Mi 8 with Mi note 10? Camera performance is what interesting me, not overall performance. I'm not a gamer....

Hello. I jad also Mi8. Now i bought the Mi10 (I know its not the Mi Noten10) and i give it the Mi8 to my girlfriend. After 10 days im not so happy with my Mi10. Ok, fast, beautiful screen,relatively good camera. But, its big(Mi8 was greatin my hand),and heavy. I would like to go backnto my Mi8, but my girlfriend dont want to give me back ?. Thats my personal opinion. But,its mist be your personal decision.

krepsz said:
Hello. I jad also Mi8. Now i bought the Mi10 (I know its not the Mi Noten10) and i give it the Mi8 to my girlfriend. After 10 days im not so happy with my Mi10. Ok, fast, beautiful screen,relatively good camera. But, its big(Mi8 was greatin my hand),and heavy. I would like to go backnto my Mi8, but my girlfriend dont want to give me back . Thats my personal opinion. But,its mist be your personal decision.
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Thanks, mate. I'm a big guy, and i love larger screens, so that not gonna be a problem. I will, personally, buy it exclusively for the cameras and if is not a big difference i will stay with Mi 8.

dacha1984 said:
Thanks, mate. I'm a big guy, and i love larger screens, so that not gonna be a problem. I will, personally, buy it exclusively for the cameras and if is not a big difference i will stay with Mi 8.
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I considered getting it myself. But after researching the phone it less less bands than the mi8 and mi9, ( not including the 5 G bands of course)
In regard to the camera, watch this complet video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFtdc8Fj1Wg and you will see that the Note 10 actually competes fairly well against the Mi10. personally, i have decided to stick with the Mi8 for a while until i have a better idea of What I would want to upgrade to. I am also considering the OnePlus 7T or OnePlus 8.
if you are interested i made a spreadsheet with the differences between phones and radio bands.

As an owner of both devices, all i can say is stick to mi8.
Here are few reasons why:
1) in-hand feel and size.
Note 10 is just to hefty and thick. Mi8 is much more enjoyable to handle.
2) Curved screen - so unpleasant to use, so easy to brake.
3) Very slow fingerprint reader.
4) SD730 is not flagship level
5) Camera has great IQ but photo processing and camera handling is slow and nonresponsive.
Of course, there are some benefits of mi note 10, better battery and more versatile camera setup, but for me mi8 is still better option with a smaller size, ir face unlock, classic fingerprint and more powerful cpu.

dacha1984 said:
Hello guys,
My question is, is it worth to change my Mi 8 with Mi note 10? Camera performance is what interesting me, not overall performance. I'm not a gamer....
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I have both phones and can tell you: Stay with your Mi 8. Even if the camera is way better in Mi Note 10 it has many bugs. And you can really feel the Snapdragon 730G. Image processing is slow, apps aren't loading as fast....
Go with Mi 10. I think it gives you everything.

General I already regret buying redmi note 9

This phone seems so much better for a better or the same price or lower price
108MP an AMOLED display 120hz even the phone looks much better especially the camera module
good enough chipset
god i regret getting the redmi note 9

historys said:
This phone seems so much better for a better or the same price or lower price
108MP an AMOLED display 120hz even the phone looks much better especially the camera module
good enough chipset
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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Fortunately, I keep thinking that I'll go for either Redmi Note 9 Pro or POCO X3 NFC from last months. But thanks for my "patience skill" so I could save my money to consider this phone.
Edit: Fixing some typos.

gloeyisk said:
Fortunately, I keep thinking that I'll go for either Redmi Note 9 Pro or POCO X3 NFC from last months. But thanks for my "patience skill" so I could save my money to consider this phone.
Edit: Fixing some typos.
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i'll probably upgrade in 2 or 3 years to the newest redmi phone if they keep getting out phones like this
this phone is absolutely amazing for the price hopefully redmi note 11 will also be the same if not even better
also poco x3 users are absolutely SEETHING

Using redmi note 7 from 2019, was looking for a good option for upgrade. I guess I got the perfect one, Redmi Note 10 Pro.

historys said:
i'll probably upgrade in 2 or 3 years to the newest redmi phone if they keep getting out phones like this
this phone is absolutely amazing for the price hopefully redmi note 11 will also be the same if not even better
also poco x3 users are absolutely SEETHING
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I wouldn't say many poco x3 are seething. spec wise is practically the same except the AMOLED and camera. I'm happy with good panel LCD screen on the x3- won't need to worry about burn-in/bleed if one is a heavy gamer. x3 is still one beast of a phone for the price!

Well Redmi Note 10 Pro (Global) and Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite (Global) are the two phones I'm looking for which for the 6/128 GB variant seem to cost just about the same (~265 €). My focus is on:
DualSIM, dedicated microSD, good stabilized video 1080p and possibly also 4k, very good day and ok night pictures, fast cpu/gpu (Antutu over 250k), Fast LTE with Bands 3,20,7,1,32 (8,38,28a), 3.5mm-Jack.
Both devices have those features. Unfortunately no Snapdragon 8 series devices with dedicated microSD and 3.5mm-Jack exist, so I need to stick to this lower mid-range class.
Redmi Note 10 Pro real advantage of 108 Mpx Samsung5K HM2 f/1.9 over 64 Mpx Sony IMX682 Exmor RS f/1.89 needs to be proven by side by side dedicated picture and video test. With GCam probably because of the slightly better processor in the Mi 10T Lite (Snapdragon 750G) it seems possible to activate EIS for 4k Videos. With Snapdragon 732G this seems unlikely to be possible. Also Mi 10T Lite has 3 of the 4 important 5G Bands in my area, could not find info that a Note 10 Pro Snapdragon Upgrade to 5G will be released (Global, the Note 10 5G is based on MediaTek).
So the advantages of Note 10 Pro (AMOLED, 108 Mpx, Radio FM) currently seem less important then those of Mi 10T Lite. I will wait until detailed camera comparisons are available, possibly with GCam for both devices.
EDIT: I need to correct that Mi 10T Lite (Global) according to several reviews on YouTube has no dedicated microSD (only hybrid DualSIM). Many techsheets online seem to have dedicated. This is a bummer and will leave only Redmi Note 10 Pro (Global) as candidate for my next buy.

5x optical zoom would have sold me, guess ill have to wait for another phone

dingdong3000 said:
I wouldn't say many poco x3 are seething. spec wise is practically the same except the AMOLED and camera. I'm happy with good panel LCD screen on the x3- won't need to worry about burn-in/bleed if one is a heavy gamer. x3 is still one beast of a phone for the price!
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Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.

historys said:
god i regret getting the redmi note 9
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Just sell it, buy Redmi Note 10 Pro and be one of the cool kids.

DoritoPower said:
Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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i had the lg v20 and it was supposedly a "flagship lg phone" but it was just a mess the two screen design didn't look at all and there was a lot of burn in
i didn't even know LCD panels can get burn in until i got that phone

Thing is the redmi note 9 variants have good, stable roms by now but it took months and months to get there, which was an exercise in frustration I'm not going to go through again, so I'm perfectly fine with my 9s and will get this one once/if there are solid roms available with all bugs squashed. Not interested in smelly Mi Ui.

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Thing is the redmi note 9 variants have good, stable roms by now but it took months and months to get there, which was an exercise in frustration I'm not going to go through again, so I'm perfectly fine with my 9s and will get this one once/if there are solid roms available with all bugs squashed. Not interested in smelly Mi Ui.
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The first stable (GSI) ROM was from sooti. Other non GSI ROMs weren't maintained long before you had to switch to another ROM. That's a pain.
I hope the Redmi Note 10 Pro or newer Poco phones will get better community support.

DoritoPower said:
Been using xiaomi devices since redmi 2 prime, their phones are either hit or miss. Sometimes they absolutely cheap out on hardware. My current redmi note 7 has a LCD panel and it shows signs of screen burn. These manufacturers are pumping out phones without worrying about quality and overall experience.
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you are right
same here
i faced problems with my redmi note 7 screen burn and the battery too
i change it twice but seems not as good as the original
accubattery show me the capacity at 2000mah i cant find where is the problem with those new batteries
i ordered this new note 10 pro and i hope it will be a good choice
if not i will never buy xiaomi phones again

Need to rant again: I do not understand why in every series and also other brands with a better CPU (Snapdragon 8 series) they omit the microSD slot (not even shared) and in most cases also the 3.5mm-Jack. Is Google enforcing this?
The Redmi Note 10 Pro with Snapdragon 888 (865 also ok) and maybe better RAM specs would be awesome.

Don't worry. Exchange it with note 9 pro, you'll get a wholesome discount of 100$ or 9000₹.

ChriMo said:
Need to rant again: I do not understand why in every series and also other brands with a better CPU (Snapdragon 8 series) they omit the microSD slot (not even shared) and in most cases also the 3.5mm-Jack. Is Google enforcing this?
The Redmi Note 10 Pro with Snapdragon 888 (865 also ok) and maybe better RAM specs would be awesome.
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this is not a flagship
this is a budget-ish phone

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this is not a flagship. this is a budget-ish phone
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Yeah, but why has it more interfaces-expansion-ports/connectivity then Xiaomi top phones? I would pay more and think the CPU, microSD slot and Jack alone would not make the phone much more expensive (like 600 $ or more). At least Redmi K40 Pro with Snapdragon 888 does cost only ca. 460 $ but has no microSD slot and no 3.5mm-Jack. Since everyone, not only Xiaomi, is doing it I do not understand it: why not use the integration of those two features as advantage to the competition? There must be some hidden policy behind this IMHO

Hah: It almost seems Xiaomi did use the strategy I wanted at least for the Poco X3 Pro (PX3P) presented yesterday! It has a shared/hybrid microSD slot and 3.5mm-Jack paired with a Snapdragon 860 - Antutu ~486k. By comparison the Snapdragon 732G in the Redmi Note 10 Pro (RN10P) has Antutu ~288k - Snapdragon 865 has Antutu ~615k and Snapdragon 888 has Antutu ~730k - so not top flagship performance but solid medium/premium territory, while the Snapdragon 732G now seems more budget level: even the Snapdragon 678 in the Redmi Note 10 (available for under 200$) delivers Antutu ~277k.
In addition PX3P has the advantage of UFS Storage 3.1 against UFS Storage 2.2 in RN10P. But it lacks FM Radio, AMOLED and also has no 5G. The "better" POCO F3 also presented yesterday by comparison is a rebranded Redmi K40 Pro (for Global) with Snapdragon 870 and 5G but no microSD (some sheets say it has Independent SD slot) and no 3.5mm-Jack and also good prices. The Poco F2 Pro at least has the 3.5mm-Jack.
Of course the camera in the PX3P seems disadvantaged with 48MP, f/1.79 IMX582 Exmor for the main lense, but fast CPU and memory are attractive for fast video editing etc. I will try to compare reviews with a focus on 4k EIS and 1080p EIS Video.

It's crazy how Xiaomi is coming up with these phones. Xiaomi is just competing with itself for 350USD and below phones right now

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It's crazy how Xiaomi is coming up with these phones. Xiaomi is just competing with itself for 350USD and below phones right now
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I agree. Some small competitors like Realme and Vivo try to deliver similar price/performance, but because much less models will be selled, much lower community support regarding GCam, CustomROMs (like Xiaomi.eu/mi-globe, AOSP/LOS based, etc.) will be available and so in my case much less attractive at similar price.
OnePlus has left this price territory and other interesting devices from Asus, Google, Samsung, Motorola just miss features and/or cost too much in comparison.
The thing I would like to see on sub 350$ Xiaomi phones is OIS (optical image stabilization) paired with gyroscope EIS stabilization to get top notch videos at 1080p or even 4k and at the same time less shaky/blurry images. But it seems Megapixel of the sensor are the stronger (selling) argument for the time being. In my case a top quality 12-18 Megapixel image is more then enough, I dislike the washed out details at zoom 1:1 of Smartphone best resolution pics on a Monitor screen.