I recently learnt programing and started android app development. Very enthusiastically I bought an honor play device and what I learn now is that the Bootloader cannot be unlocked because these pathetic people have decided not to let people unlock their devices... why because they put a spy chip and software in their device and don't want us to block traffic for it and their pathetic ads!!
Never buy honor again
Following are the tweets I made to honor today!
@huaweiPhones
@huaweiMobile
@hihonorIndia
When someone buys a device it's theirs'. They decide what to do with it! What rights do you have to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their phones. Let people unlock their bootloaders.
#donotbuyhuawei
#dontbuyhonor
@huaweiMobile When someone buys a device it's theirs'. They decide what to do with it! How can you; in fact what rights do you have to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their phones. Let people unlock their bootloaders. #donotbuyhuawei
I hope it makes some sense to them...
what do you have to say about it? Do you agree?
Let Me Know and put in on other forums..
At least, learn to show little respect even when things aren't right or good about their products. The right approach in addressing such complain is to be civil about it.
Respect people only until they are worthy of it!
pja1985430 said:
At least, learn to show little respect even when things aren't right or good about their products. The right approach in addressing such complain is to be civil about it.
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I did in the beginning...
Following was my communication with these retards...
I was being very respectful but stupid coercive Chinese people are going to bear the burnt of their actions soon!
being a developer I find it difficult to integrate app in the system making it resistant to formatting. Pls provide me the bootloader code. Thanks and Regards.
Honor India
@dhamalRohit Thank you for getting in touch with us. We request you to please visit nearest service center in order to get bootloader code. You can find nearest service center details from HiCare app or by visiting the link: - https://www.hihonor.com/in/support/service-center/index.html … and service center works Monday to Saturday 10 A.M to 6 P.M. We request you to carry your device invoice copy with IMEI number mentioned on it, photo ID proof and take the backup of all your important data (if possible) before visiting to service center.
Jan 20
Rohit Dhamal
sure, thank you very much! with your help and cooperation I can contribute to the developer community in a better way!
Rohit Dhamal
Honor always better than the best!
Honor India
@dhamalRohit Thank you for the compliment. Your support keeps us going.
Jan 21
Rohit Dhamal
Hi. I am at the ashtavinayak service center kalyan Mumbai. They don't have any idea about bootloader unlock and code. Can you forward it directly, or talk to the technical person?
Honor India
@dhamalRohit Sorry for the inconvenience caused to you. We request you to kindly share your contact details and device model name so that we can assist you in the best possible way.
Jan 25
Rohit Dhamal
Sure, thanks. My mobile number is **********. Email:******
Device is honor play.
Rohit Dhamal
IMEI1:*****
IMEI2:******
SN:+++++++
Honor India
@dhamalRohit As per the telephonic conversation we have addressed your concern. Kindly visit our authorized nearest service center in order to get Bootloader unlock code for your device. You can find nearest service center details from HiCare app or by visiting the link: - https://www.hihonor.com/in/support/service-center/index.html … and service center works Monday to Saturday 10 A.M to 6 P.M. We request you to carry your device invoice copy with IMEI number mentioned on it, photo ID proof and take the backup of all your important data (if possible) before visiting to service center.
Jan 25
Rohit Dhamal
Hi.. As discussed over the phone I Visited the akshay service center at kalyan. Unfortunately the centre closed down a month ago. I am quite fed up of visiting every single location. Kindly possibly send me the code itself by mail or message. The said akshay center was taken over by ashtavinayak service as per info available.
Rohit Dhamal
Hello, can we reach a solution please? My development is completely stalled due to the bootloader issue.
Honor India
@dhamalRohit As per the telephonic conversation we have addressed your concern. We have raised the complaint with this (SR220190128112952400) complaint number. Kindly wait for some time our relevant team will contact you soon.
Jan 28
Rohit Dhamal
Thank you very much for your support. I will definitely visit the service center ASAP. Thanks once again.
Rohit Dhamal
Hello,
My hardships do not seem to end. The honor service center people asked me to keep back my phone with them for a day for a procedure of less than 5 min.
Why can't they just hand me over the code and finish off in 5 seconds? My development has stalled and the student group involved in the project will get a memo for delays in work. Pls resolve the issue.
>Want to program apps for android which doesn't require the bootloader to be unlocked
>Complains about bootloader being locked and the ads.
Why you bought this phone without researching about it's software?
Hmmmm .. you really should do some research before buying your next device !
You seniors are useless
You senior members supporting honor company same on you. They pay you for it.lol. @The Mero @restlesssoul
I support you @rohitdhamal
Hey Ashishvala15 ... .. yeah i do support honor and xiaomi , because they make good budget phones .. not that you would understand that of course sitting there writing fake posts are about phones you dont even own .. Now whos the one making the money again ???
Don't say that you are a developer if you are too lazy to search about the device before buying.
It's funny how people think that just because they pay the money they can do whatever they want. Big companies lock their bootloaders it raise huge amounts of security concerns. A primary one being the wrong people being able to change their imei numbers with a rooted device. I'm pretty sure you might need the code for good reasons but there are thousands more who would use it for all the wrong reasons. In which case the company clearly reserves the right of whether or not to provide the codes.
Rohit honor is the **** and you are arguing with some shot makers here aswell. I have waste the my time with service centre guyz and result was similar. Now they mentioning that they dont wanna give code ans this msg came from call center guyz. I dnt know whT to do now apart from the last phons from honor am using now.
Who ever want to defend honor about bootloader code idgf.
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rohitdhamal said:
I recently learnt programing and started android app development. Very enthusiastically I bought an honor play device and what I learn now is that the Bootloader cannot be unlocked because these pathetic people have decided not to let people unlock their devices... why because they put a spy chip and software in their device and don't want us to block traffic for it and their pathetic ads!!
Never buy honor again
Following are the tweets I made to honor today!
@huaweiPhones
@huaweiMobile
@hihonorIndia
When someone buys a device it's theirs'. They decide what to do with it! What rights do you have to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their phones. Let people unlock their bootloaders.
#donotbuyhuawei
#dontbuyhonor
@huaweiMobile When someone buys a device it's theirs'. They decide what to do with it! How can you; in fact what rights do you have to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their phones. Let people unlock their bootloaders. #donotbuyhuawei
I hope it makes some sense to them...
what do you have to say about it? Do you agree?
Let Me Know and put in on other forums..
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Have u ever bought an iPhone. The reason u bought the honor play is it is cheap with flagship processor
And I am pretty sure that u dint buy the honor play to just to unlock bootloader and install other roms
U should know because of there competition u r getting better phone day by day
Uh, guys, could you please stop that slang?
The forum language is english.
I don't understand much of your slang talk!
Wow there is a lot of cr*p here. If you BUY a product, you should be allowed to use it AS IT SUITS YOU.
- Imagine buying a car, with the company refusing you to go in a different garage than theirs. You can't put new tires, can't change the oil or can't refuel without their consent.
- When you ask why, they respond it is for security measures : you could install unauthorized parts, change the serial number... All presenting security issues.
- When you say you bought that car, that it belongs to you ; they respond they made it. It belong to the them. You are merely a user.
Do you see where I'm getting to? You are deliberatetly lying to us, presenting theses arguments ; or worse, you believe them and you should seriously reconsider your opinions.
The truth is : they don't want you to unlock the bootloader, to root your phone, because you will make them lose a loooooot of money in ad, product placement...
They spy, yes. As everyone else does. Sony do. Samsung do. Apple do.
Mazzeru said:
Wow there is a lot of cr*p here. If you BUY a product, you should be allowed to use it AS IT SUITS YOU.
- Imagine buying a car, with the company refusing you to go in a different garage than theirs. You can't put new tires, can't change the oil or can't refuel without their consent.
- When you ask why, they respond it is for security measures : you could install unauthorized parts, change the serial number... All presenting security issues.
- When you say you bought that car, that it belongs to you ; they respond they made it. It belong to the them. You are merely a user.
Do you see where I'm getting to? You are deliberatetly lying to us, presenting theses arguments ; or worse, you believe them and you should seriously reconsider your opinions.
The truth is : they don't want you to unlock the bootloader, to root your phone, because you will make them lose a loooooot of money in ad, product placement...
They spy, yes. As everyone else does. Sony do. Samsung do. Apple do.
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Excuse me if I will hurt somebody's feelings.
I read this topic periodically and feel like now I should make a point.
If you have bought a phone with an unlockable bootloader and suffering now. Your'e kind of idiot just because of one thing. There's an official statement from Huawei regarding this topic. Google it first. buy second.
And if you would think that any IT company should let you do anything with the product you've bought then I feel sorry for you cause you're wrong. When you buy a phone you buy a thing with listed specifications:
-wi-fi, voice calls, battery capacity, android X OS, etc
If the feature is listed and you can't use it cause it has been restricted to you for any cause then it is total **** up from manufacturer. But if it is an optional like bootloader unlock or voice recording then you shouldnt be so angry. Cause before buy you have to make sure that the thing fits you.
Security reasons thing... I dont have exact numbers but I'm pretty sure that there are so few people use unlocked bootloader among ALL smartphone users community so companies not worried aboud loosing money on ads, apps, etc.
The real security reason is to avoid revers engineering of their software. And they can do it cause it's their right to protect their intellectual property.
P.S
Yeah, I feel sad too cause I can't unlock my phone and decompile system apps and making some changes in system software. But... My phone is great for the money I spend on it. It works as it should. And I don't regret buying it at all
Some honor bhakts are barking here too. A **** company
#dontbuyhuawei #dontbuyhonor
rajit said:
Some honor bhakts are barking here too. A **** company
#dontbuyhuawei #dontbuyhonor
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Wow xD talk about funny things happening! I'm sorry I didn't recognize you! You are the loser from the other thread!! So this is why you're so pissed xD you wanted to unlock your bootloader but you can't?! I'd say Huawei ssccrreeweedd you nice and good huh! xD Don't worry though, I am not going to educate you(if you know what I mean)here too, I have realised that you not capable of learning even to talk properly on international level forums.
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Mazzeru said:
Wow there is a lot of cr*p here. If you BUY a product, you should be allowed to use it AS IT SUITS YOU.
- Imagine buying a car, with the company refusing you to go in a different garage than theirs. You can't put new tires, can't change the oil or can't refuel without their consent.
- When you ask why, they respond it is for security measures : you could install unauthorized parts, change the serial number... All presenting security issues.
- When you say you bought that car, that it belongs to you ; they respond they made it. It belong to the them. You are merely a user.
Do you see where I'm getting to? You are deliberatetly lying to us, presenting theses arguments ; or worse, you believe them and you should seriously reconsider your opinions.
The truth is : they don't want you to unlock the bootloader, to root your phone, because you will make them lose a loooooot of money in ad, product placement...
They spy, yes. As everyone else does. Sony do. Samsung do. Apple do.
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So.. Supposedly you own a ferrari then You do realize that if you take your car to some xyz workshop and he replaces parts for some cheaper ones and screw with you engine or put the wrong oil in your ferrari then the car will die out on you? And that that's why the ferrari always asks you to service your car at authorised service centers? What I want you to understand is that you are free to find the codes yourself, if you make your fone explode by doing experiments on it then that's on you. And as for changing Tyres of a car, man that's like changing the cover of a fone because it's worn out, you are free to do that too and anything else you want to do with your device, just don't expect the company to help you do it and don't bad mouth the company for that. I honestly love my honor play, it is everything that I expected it to be except of course low light pictures but I can live with that because I don't click much pictures anyway in low light. Every fone will have something less, there is no such thing as perfect fone, the question is whether you can live with that or not and if can't then do your research and buy what you need. If you have already bought it then sell it to someone who doesn't care about bootloader unlocking and all. Simple. Peace out.
Ghost52367 said:
Wow xD talk about funny things happening! I'm sorry I didn't recognize you! You are the loser from the other thread!! So this is why you're so pissed xD you wanted to unlock your bootloader but you can't?! I'd say Huawei ssccrreeweedd you nice and good huh! xD Don't worry though, I am not going to educate you(if you know what I mean)here too, I have realised that you not capable of learning even to talk properly on international level forums.
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So.. Supposedly you own a ferrari then You do realize that if you take your car to some xyz workshop and he replaces parts for some cheaper ones and screw with you engine or put the wrong oil in your ferrari then the car will die out on you? And that that's why the ferrari always asks you to service your car at authorised service centers? What I want you to understand is that you are free to find the codes yourself, if you make your fone explode by doing experiments on it then that's on you. And as for changing Tyres of a car, man that's like changing the cover of a fone because it's worn out, you are free to do that too and anything else you want to do with your device, just don't expect the company to help you do it and don't bad mouth the company for that. I honestly love my honor play, it is everything that I expected it to be except of course low light pictures but I can live with that because I don't click much pictures anyway in low light. Every fone will have something less, there is no such thing as perfect fone, the question is whether you can live with that or not and if can't then do your research and buy what you need. If you have already bought it then sell it to someone who doesn't care about bootloader unlocking and all. Simple. Peace out.
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Awesome dude
Like, man, Huawei is possibly the worst choice of phone for experimenting with ROMs and rooting. There are many other root friendly brands like Xiaomi, OnePlus etc.
I think Honor should be more particular about updates if they want to keep their bootloader locked. Its not possible for people to purchase a new device every year. They also sometimes ruined their camera to push customers to buy new phones ex Honor 6x and Honor Play
I agree that refusing giving unlock codes has many disadvantages, but I think Huawei may want to protect its technology. For example, they surely don't want you know how GPU TURBO and Ark Compiler work.
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just FYI not sure if anyone has seen this douche bag. appears he is making a nice living off of your guys' hard work. i think this user should be made an example of. anyone with any ideas?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250421549454
yeah he is making a killing selling those.
Probably hasn't sold any, but I reported.
derekwilkinson said:
Probably hasn't sold any, but I reported.
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Check his feedback profile..
You'll weep when you see how many CDs he sold for 50 pop EACH!!!
derekwilkinson said:
Probably hasn't sold any, but I reported.
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ya nearly all his feedback ratings are from $50 a pop on that cd. he's got over 150 positive feedbacks. i also reported prior to the original thread posting cuz thats just wrong imo.
yes Im danielmex_83
jajaja i sent him a message wanna see it? hahaha just for fun you know!
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there are many people that loves everything easy... even if it cost 50 bucks.
Thats insane. I can't even begin to imagine the people that have been scammed out of 50 bucks for stuff that is completely free. And no credit to those that developed the software. Shame
He answers me!
HAHAHAHAH well I ask him if he can shipp the cd to the bermudas triangle!
he answers...
hahaha didnt you live on Mexico? hahahaha god damn! this guy is so funny!
I sent a question as to why he sells things that are free to find, he replied with:
"I charge mainly for the tutorial and personal assistance. I throw in all the apps, etc. in as a bonus. I have donated to the programmers and it took hours and hours of how to figure this stuff out and what to install first, etc."
I don't think there's much wrong with this, although AUD$60 is a bit much and I disagree with "All of these games, apps and themes are easily worth over $800" as they are (mostly) free.
I think we need some of the opinions of the devs who's software is on this CD.
^^^ Well he is not lying, he is NOT scamming anyone. I mean, yea he makes money off this, but he has just taken all the effort we enjoy, playing around with stuff... some users just want to have everything handed to them, and with support AU$60 is pretty good if I were non-geek.
He is noy doing anything illegal, I think some ppl are jealous? report? for what?
I've seen ppl sell freeware before, it is not illegal if he is adding something beneficial to the sale (his tuts and support).
I don't hate, but that's just me!
Is it over priced.. YES, is it a scam... NO! Is it wrong.. Maybe... Is it illegal... NO!
But it goes against an unwritten code, but thats it.
If i offered a service to install MS Office 2007 and tech support it for 3mths for 50 bucks, nothing wrong with that... right? Software vendors LIVE off this 'support'.
Anyway, it has broken a code and I see where you guys are pissed, but reporting? c'mon get over it.
aaron11193 said:
I sent a question as to why he sells things that are free to find, he replied with:
"I charge mainly for the tutorial and personal assistance. I throw in all the apps, etc. in as a bonus. I have donated to the programmers and it took hours and hours of how to figure this stuff out and what to install first, etc."
I don't think there's much wrong with this, although AUD$60 is a bit much and I disagree with "All of these games, apps and themes are easily worth over $800" as they are (mostly) free.
I think we need some of the opinions of the devs who's software is on this CD.
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I think what he is doing is partly illegal, at least in reference to s2u, on the page of A_C it's stated directly under freeware licence "You are NOT allowed to make a charge for distributing this Software whether as a stand-alone product, or as part of a compilation or anthology, without explicit prior written permission." Probably there is something similar about other apps/games on the CD, at least I could imagine Microsoft and google are providing something similar. Whether he donated to the programmers or not don't changes anything about his permissions applying there software.
x86 said:
^^^ Well he is not lying, he is NOT scamming anyone. I mean, yea he makes money off this, but he has just taken all the effort we enjoy, playing around with stuff... some users just want to have everything handed to them, and with support AU$60 is pretty good if I were non-geek.
He is noy doing anything illegal, I think some ppl are jealous? report? for what?
I've seen ppl sell freeware before, it is not illegal if he is adding something beneficial to the sale (his tuts and support).
I don't hate, but that's just me!
Is it over priced.. YES, is it a scam... NO! Is it wrong.. Maybe... Is it illegal... NO!
But it goes against an unwritten code, but thats it.
If i offered a service to install MS Office 2007 and tech support it for 3mths for 50 bucks, nothing wrong with that... right? Software vendors LIVE off this 'support'.
Anyway, it has broken a code and I see where you guys are pissed, but reporting? c'mon get over it.
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Hi everybody, and thanks x86 for not posting like drdrew and Que. I have been selling these disks and guess what? I am not the first or the last to do it. I bought an HTC phone and wanted to make it cool like the stuff I found on the internet for FREE. However, I had NO clue of how to do it. I didn't know you had to install NETCFsetup35 first. I didn't know you had to install Batteryand Performance Hack, then SDKcerts, then finix, etc in THAT order. These are things that took a while to learn how to do. I couldn't find a thread on what, how or when to do these things and I am pretty computer literate. Someone else was selling the phones with the programs on them first and I decided I would write an easy to understand tutorial and sell my own disks so others could enjoy. This is called free enterprise.
I don't and never have taken credit for anyone's work and have donated to the sites I have gone to and talked with a few of the programmers. Bongsu has awesome themes and I have donated to vicotts site after he said that's where the money should go. I donated to XDA. PPCgeeks as well. Have I talked to all of them? No. I could take ALL the apps, themes and games off and the tutorial I created is worth it alone. Not only that, but many of my customers have had to call me and ask for support. I have spent hours on the phone helping some people who are completely computer illiterate step by step to make their phones so fun and cool. I offer the disks at $50 with a Best Offer option as well. Some people buy for $40 and some for $35. x86, It's not overpriced when you consider the support. Just like you said, companies make a TON of money on support. I was just offered the great deal of $129.99 from Dell to help me resolve a ONE-time issue with my computer. Support costs money.
I guarantee if you ask any of the people who have bought the disk, not a one of them feels scammed. Why would they? I talk them through it to help them. The tutorial is very easy to understand but some people are not savvy. Actually, I have had many of my customers tell me I am not charging enough! That's no joke. I started at $24.99 and was told over and over I was charging too LITTLE! Why would any programmer be upset as there programs are on more phones? That's why they are created; to have fun and make phones look cool. But there was nobody to help me and many others understand HOW to do it!
The people buying these disks have seen many of the programs on the internet and know they are out there for free, yet they still buy my tutorial. I include the urls to PPCgeeks and XDA in my tutorial as well as other sites. That way they can then do it for themselves after they learn how to do it from me the FIRST time.
I simply sold what most people like, the easy route. And I just thought it would be cool to put a bunch of programs on the disk to get these people started! All the things I have put on that disk are found on the internet for FREE, Except for TWO things; my tutorial and phone support. I charge for that. If you have a problem with that, you are free to feel that way. If you want to pay my cell phone bill, let me know. But the fact is, nobody who has purchased this disk has come back to say they want their money back. I have 100% feedback. That should tell you something.
Edit: If someone wants to contact me, feel free to do so but name calling and insults are childish.
Want to Clear Things Up said:
Edit: If someone wants to contact me, feel free to do so but name calling and insults are childish.
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This account has been banned for being a sock-puppet.
Please use your real account "Sho'nuff" for replying to questions like these Roy.
EqX
Thanks Equinox
Its been a while since i have see you on wizard forums, jejeje long time ago i think since manilla 2d comes to town, thanks for let us know that this guy, maybe a memeber from here makes a new user saying want to clear thinks up... want? or wish i could? moron!
Im so angry about this! Really. but what can i win? nothing but healty decrease so lets over this situation.
Well this guy contacts me telling me ebay has some policy's and dont allow to post the logo! well i will edit only... my... Screenshots... and post the screenshot of his PM to me.
To let you know how this guys operate his dirty tricks i mean is not illegal no no no i know I know if he wants to earn some bucks showing his ass on the street please make it where nobody can see you, is immoral!
well here you go (just to have truth on my words)
wanna the reply here it is...
Want to Clear Things Up said:
You know, I would appreciate you taking down your posts. I answered your questions honestly and did nothing wrong to you. eBay also has a strict policy of using their logos and posting private emails on a public thread. I think if you read my email on this thread, you will see what I offer is a tutorial and personal assistance and am not scamming or hurting anyone. You have your right to say you don't like it and that's fine, but again, I would appreciate you taking down the screen shots.
Also, if you look on eBay, you will see there have been others who have done it. There is someone else selling a disk right now and someone selling a phone with the programs on it.
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OK! its fine for me, but only if you go to the forum where you saw that screenshoots and post this same words... if you dont do it i will, then, i will edit my posts, I think the administrator of this site will be happy with this agreement.
Cheers dude! see you later.
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Dont support this kind of people they never will have sense of good things or bad things, be smart guys be more than this guys, learn more and more you will love this machines, really and can support the learning growing up this lazy mankind we are turning into.
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+ Que PPC said:
Its been a while since i have see you on wizard forums, jejeje long time ago i think since manilla 2d comes to town, thanks for let us know that this guy, maybe a memeber from here makes a new user saying want to clear thinks up... want? or wish i could? moron!
Im so angry about this! Really. but what can i win? nothing but healty decrease so lets over this situation.
Well this guy contacts me telling me ebay has some policy's and dont allow to post the logo! well i will edit only... my... Screenshots... and post the screenshot of his PM to me.
To let you know how this guys operate his dirty tricks i mean is not illegal no no no i know I know if he wants to earn some bucks showing his ass on the street please make it where nobody can see you, is immoral!
well here you go (just to have truth on my words)
wanna the reply here it is...
Dont support this kind of people they never will have sense of good things or bad things, be smart guys be more than this guys, learn more and more you will love this machines, really and can support the learning growing up this lazy mankind we are turning into.
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I may as well write this on the public forum since it seems you are the dirty one who cannot keep a private conversation private. Also, I created the other name so people wouldn't flood my regular email so I created a new email and name for that. But guess what? Not a single email has come to me with a problem or insults. Actually, I got an email from someone on this thread telling me I did a great job explaining.
And by the way, your screenshots still show eBay licensed information. Your posting of a private email on a public forum doesn't go over well either. I will ask you to remove them again. XDA is a great site and doesn't need trouble because of your posts.
Hey Ben, I mean Equinox, you should do the right thing and take down the screenshots if Mr. Que here doesn't decide to. Or should I just contact the administrator?
I find it quite funny you come on here using words like moron and how angry this makes you when in reality you have not created any of these programs. Maybe it's possible you're jealous that you don't have the common sense to write a tutorial and offer support to folks who want their phones to have these great features and at the same time turn a little profit? Not all people who buy these phones know anything about these apps, themes and games. I was a first time Win Mo user and had NO idea about this stuff. Try to look at the positive aspect. Many more people know about these great things and HOW TO INSTALL them. That's what you're not getting. You seem to think the people who bought this disk are lazy. No, they are not as computer savvy as some of us are. They need help. And when I went to forums to find out stuff, it was SO much info to take in that I just about said forget it. And I wasn't sure about viruses or what to install or what needed to be installed, etc.
I have 13 sent messages in my outbox from March that I sent to people asking for help when I first joined this site. Guess how many answered? ZERO. I finally found someone who helped me, and it wasn't from this site, and then I took off from there. It's not lazy QUE, but I think you know that. Or maybe you don't. How did YOU come to learn how to do these things? How did most people on these forums? They are either IT's, creators, real computer savvy or got help from someone. Well, I am one who waited about a month after getting my phone to finally find someone to help me.
So I decided to offer assistance to other people which includes phone support. Do you have a cell phone QUE? Do you pay your own bill? They're not free, are they? Also, you never mentioned the fact that I have donated and talked with some of the actual programmers. No, you seem to just listen to what you want and write what will incite others.
And the fact is, people were doing this BEFORE me, selling phones with all the programs on them for $500 when I bought my phone back in March. I didn't need another phone, I just needed to learn how to get the programs. So that's what I offered to others. And to be able to actually call me and I would walk them through it step by step. Read the feedback and you will see that. There was another guy selling the disks before me and ALL he had on them was apps and themes and games and no phone support. People came to me because they needed help. Too bad you only look at the negative and try to paint me as a bad person. The people who bought my disk don't think so and love these forums.
That's a whole other realm you don't even realize. I have sold a few of these disks and that means, a whole new group of people have come to these sites, like XDA and PPCGeeks and likely have donated to get a new theme, etc. or have contributed in some other way. And it also brings in more clicks to these sites. Did you know that or even think about that?
I have been truthful and can walk away from this with my head up high as I know I have helped so many other people. I don't post private messages, I don't use childish insults. I came here to try to set the record straight. I believe I have done so. Obviously not with you Que, but that's okay. People will always disagree in this world.
What I don't understand, is why so many people without a vested interest in this, are getting so worked up about it. What this guy did was very enterprising, very illegal, but very enterprising.
It is not up to anyone but the developers of the apps, to go after this guy. If you go by the feedback alone, he has sold $7500 worth of other peoples work. That is not chump change.
The courts have been very clear on this, most recently with music sampling. If you sample someone elses music on your rap CD, be prepared to pay. Record companies have already had to pay big bucks for artists who have been caught sampling on their CDs. This is nothing more than sampling.
Being a semi-professional writer, I will also say that one does not need to professionally copyright his work in order for the court to side with the original publisher against someone trying to profit from their work. How many times do you see people suing songwriters and screenwriters for stealing ideas , thoughts and passages. Many times the courts have sided with, and movie companies have been forced to settle with, people who have proved that an idea was originally theirs, even without an " official " copyright.
Trying to prove that he wasn't selling the apps, just the instruction and support, is very shaky legal ground indeed. But it is up to the original publishers of the programs to sue for their share of the profits, I hardly think it is worthwhile for us to bicker about it.
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What I don't understand, is why so many people without a vested interest in this, are getting so worked up about it. What this guy did was very enterprising, very illegal, but very enterprising.
It is not up to anyone but the developers of the apps, to go after this guy. If you go by the feedback alone, he has sold $7500 worth of other peoples work. That is not chump change.
The courts have been very clear on this, most recently with music sampling. If you sample someone elses music on your rap CD, be prepared to pay. Record companies have already had to pay big bucks for artists who have been caught sampling on their CDs. This is nothing more than sampling.
Being a semi-professional writer, I will also say that one does not need to professionally copyright his work in order for the court to side with the original publisher against someone trying to profit from their work. How many times to you see people sueing songwriters and screenwriters for stealing ideas , thoughts and passages. Many times the courts have sided with, and movie companies have been forced to settle with people who have proved that an idea was origanally theirs, even without an " official " copyright.
Trying to prove that he wasn't selling the apps, just the instruction and support, is very shaky legal ground indeed. But it is up to the original publishers of the programs to sue for their share of the profits, I hardly think it is worthwhile for us to bicker about it.
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Dude, your math is way off. I sold some HTC phones too, so maybe that's how you added about $6,000 wrong lol. I sold maybe 40 CD's and many people didn't even pay $50. I let some go for as little as $25. You also didn't include how muh eBay and Paypal take out for their fees. As far as illegal, most of the developers say if you want to share, include the url where it came from. I also donated to those programmers.
But I did agree with you on the fact that it was enterprising, thanks. My tutorial is what sold. My personal assistance is what sold. If you read the feedback you will see that. These people now have the ammo to search and find more and know HOW to do it.
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I think what he is doing is partly illegal, at least in reference to s2u, on the page of A_C it's stated directly under freeware licence "You are NOT allowed to make a charge for distributing this Software whether as a stand-alone product, or as part of a compilation or anthology, without explicit prior written permission." Probably there is something similar about other apps/games on the CD, at least I could imagine Microsoft and google are providing something similar. Whether he donated to the programmers or not don't changes anything about his permissions applying there software.
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I completely agree. I think if a wrote a small tutorial on Firefox and packaged it with firefox 3 and sold it on ebay for $50, it would be quite an issue. This is no different. Just because you're dealing with an individual's product instead of a corporation doesn't give you the right to package it without there permission, when they intended for it to be free, and sell it for money. This would be PERFECTLY FINE if he was selling tutorials for the products, noting that they are 100% free applications, and that you are being charged for the tutorials. However, leading people to believe that they are getting a great deal on tons of apps is awful and dishonest.
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As far as illegal, most of the developers say if you want to share, include the url where it came from. I also donated to those programmers.
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you said MOST, not ALL., can you see the difference?
But I did agree with you on the fact that it was enterprising, thanks. My tutorial is what sold. My personal assistance is what sold. If you read the feedback you will see that. These people now have the ammo to search and find more and know HOW to do it.
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You are not advertising your personal assistance, you are advertising the applications.
See the difference?
So yes, you are ILLEGALLY selling software (freeware) from which is known that the authors (like A_C) don't want to be redistributed.
As far as "personal assistance" goes, well I have read into your posts, you are far from an expert on Windows Mobile to say at least.
I am closing this thread before any valued (actually contributing) senior member is going to cross the line and have to face punitive actions.
As for you, since you obviously ignore this:
S2U2, S2P & S2V are being distributed as Freeware. It may be freely used, copied and distributed as long as it is not sold, and all original files are included, including this license. You are NOT allowed to make a charge for distributing this Software whether as a stand-alone product, or as part of a compilation or anthology, without explicit prior written permission.
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, actions against you are being taken.
Regards to the actual contributing members,
EqX
I am a dude from Serbia and I would like to ask anyone who is willing to help, in the following:
Serbia is pretty much screwed up country oscillating from European classy state, all the way to the "below 3rd world country" and many dont know that we are in deepest shi*, compared to Greece, and the rest with troubles as media are concerned.
Im a computer programmer that also does anything that is payable, to survive, including construction & handyman work, Sys administration, smuggling of stuff from China, and so on. Modern Dell Boy you would say.
I recently started repairing peoples phones since many of those do not have warranties (Serbia), so I had the opportunity to open even the SGS3 and One X, and only cause im good with that, and able to realize what's the problem as soon as I open it, and analyze it, I manage to repair most of devices I get my hands on.
My plea to all of you is - If you have ANY device beyond repairable, and you believe it is so, to send it to me, so I could learn, and experiment with stuff without fear of damage, and have lots of spares for my repairs(universal stuff like ZIF connectors, speakers, n such). I would return to the community in the manner of posting various tutorials for devices , as I believe that many of you own mid-range devices, and some old devices that I would know how to repair.
Thanks in advance to all of you who would even consider helping me.
Lol so you want people to send you phones for free?
Whats the adress we should ship to i got an old g1 i dont want.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
No, I dont want phones I am asking for unusable, completely destroyed or failed/broken devices, or some old devices you dont need, that I could analyze and learn about stuff that Im not able to do when repairing a unit for the customer. Like yours G1 (if you are serious) which is ideal for my work.
Please dont get me wrong - I would refuse ANY working valuable device, as a gift, cause I dont need charity, I dont want to get stuff via other peoples sympathies, nor do I want to get something without working for it. I am aware how that may sound, knowing how people are greedy these days, but XDA is about helping eachother, and im pretty sure there is a dude from even more forsaken place than Serbia, that would appreciate gifts, more than I would.
I will send you private message
IDk
Igoritza said:
No, I dont want phones I am asking for unusable, completely destroyed or failed/broken devices, or some old devices you dont need, that I could analyze and learn about stuff that Im not able to do when repairing a unit for the customer. Like yours G1 (if you are serious) which is ideal for my work.
Please dont get me wrong - I would refuse ANY working valuable device, as a gift, cause I dont need charity, I dont want to get stuff via other peoples sympathies, nor do I want to get something without working for it. I am aware how that may sound, knowing how people are greedy these days, but XDA is about helping eachother, and im pretty sure there is a dude from even more forsaken place than Serbia, that would appreciate gifts, more than I would.
I will send you private message
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Idk why do you want broken phones?
I pretty much explained that, but here it goes - learning phone servicing is something that requires trial and error. How am I going to learn, for example, desoldering and resoldering broken EPROM chip .. ?
Just the other day, I had a broken (factory error) ZIF connector on a brand new One V, and I repaired it using the "fix it with a hammer" method - the cover plastic was broken, here's how it looks like, not the same ZIF, but you get the gist:
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So in order for flat cable to hold, I placed a piece of 1x2mm plastic to act as a "holder", of the cable, similar to a washer for bolt & nut (engineering). now imagine how easier that would be, knowing that all HTC ZIF's are approximately same size and I could just replace it, instead of fine cutting the plastic, and sand-papering it to get the desired thickness .. ?
Where do we send it? I'm planning to hard brick my phone (a risk i have to take if i want jb) so i can send mine if i din't succeed.
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Just a heads up to anyone planning on sending phones. If the phone has a non removable battery, USPS will not ship it. It would have to be shipped via fedex or UPS which runs about $100 USD. If you can take the battery out, you can ship it through USPS for MUCH MUCH cheaper.
wow
It is inspirational to see drive like that from a technician. :crying: I only saw that kind of acceleration in LeMans. But unfortunately I look after my phones well enough that they do not become unusable.
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Just a heads up to anyone planning on sending phones. If the phone has a non removable battery, USPS will not ship it. It would have to be shipped via fedex or UPS which runs about $100 USD. If you can take the battery out, you can ship it through USPS for MUCH MUCH cheaper.
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seeing as he's not fussed about condition you could strip out the battery by almost any means and ship the remains
Lol the adress he sent me was for a place in florida.
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with33 said:
Lol the adress he sent me was for a place in florida.
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with33 said:
Lol the adress he sent me was for a place in florida.
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Why are you so mean, and why did you write this ? I did not send you address in Florida, I sent you my address here in Serbia. Please, if your intentions are to ruin my plea for help from the community, dont do that, and remove yourself from the thread.
If by any chance you are American that does not understand anything else past the US borders, and Serbia is Siberia to you, and Iran and Iraq are the same, then I apologize, I understand how difficult it may be to you to read simple shipping info that is not US.
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It is inspirational to see drive like that from a technician. :crying: I only saw that kind of acceleration in LeMans. But unfortunately I look after my phones well enough that they do not become unusable.
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Well, I have a knack for anything electronic, and I like to experiment with stuff. It is like im a kid playing with a brand new toy
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Where do we send it? I'm planning to hard brick my phone (a risk i have to take if i want jb) so i can send mine if i din't succeed.
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if you do so, let me know
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Just a heads up to anyone planning on sending phones. If the phone has a non removable battery, USPS will not ship it. It would have to be shipped via fedex or UPS which runs about $100 USD. If you can take the battery out, you can ship it through USPS for MUCH MUCH cheaper.
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thanks man, that is a big problem, but good thing is I dont need the batteries, at least they are not necessary. We in Serbia have a local manufacturer of Li-poly batteries that make any model for 2$ wholesale price, and I get those individually.
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dude from Serbia
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that sounds like a bad Rob Schneider movie.
I don't have anything suitable for you, but I definitely support your efforts and wish you luck. I would suggest that you scroll down to the bottom of any page on the thread and add some thread tags to make it more easily found by a search. I added a couple, but you can add 5 as OP.
Igoritza said:
thanks man, that is a big problem, but good thing is I dont need the batteries, at least they are not necessary. We in Serbia have a local manufacturer of Li-poly batteries that make any model for 2$ wholesale price, and I get those individually.
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Holy crap! Damn I wish I had one of those where I live. Lol but you are seriously lucky.
I have a few phones lying around (that actually work ) but are of no use to me. Just wondering how much shipping would be though... don't want to spend a fortune just to get something from point A to point B.
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Good luck.
Completely OT but I saw "A Serbian Film" a while back....I was in shock and awe. But interesting to note the meaning and politics behind the producers of the film.
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I don't have anything suitable for you, but I definitely support your efforts and wish you luck. I would suggest that you scroll down to the bottom of any page on the thread and add some thread tags to make it more easily found by a search. I added a couple, but you can add 5 as OP.
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Thanks for the tip man, will do. this new forum script is awesome, not just for tagging, it's the best forum I have ever seen, but it needs getting used to.
gagdude said:
Holy crap! Damn I wish I had one of those where I live. Lol but you are seriously lucky.
I have a few phones lying around (that actually work ) but are of no use to me. Just wondering how much shipping would be though... don't want to spend a fortune just to get something from point A to point B.
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Well, I was about to ask that to anyone - is it possible to send stuff internationally, so that receiver would pay all the fees .. ? If you really have some devices, I could reimburse, in fact, pay you up front, all the postal fees.
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Good luck.
Completely OT but I saw "A Serbian Film" a while back....I was in shock and awe. But interesting to note the meaning and politics behind the producers of the film.
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Damn, those producer douchebags really putt a certain new perspective on Serbs with that shi* movie and it's title. The truth is that Serbs are most disgusted with that movie, specially when 2 main actors are really good in other stuff. We tend to be kind people and most foreigners that come to Belgrade for Nightlife have the greatest time here, with everybody speaking english, and being all welcomy Oh yeah - and the reason we all are even able to type here, is a Serb - Nikola Tesla (a card we always pull to redeem for other idiots )
Good to see people who are desperate to learn.
Public thanks to the user of the forum who insisted on staying anonimous. Got myself broken HD2 and DHD! It's a fenomenal start for my learning, devices are already in the mail.
If I suceed on reapiring DHD, screen + network, I would pass it to the developers, if they would need it. device was water damaged, and digitizer is not working + it wont get network, but if the PCB is repairable I will be glad to send it to some dev.
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Well, I was about to ask that to anyone - is it possible to send stuff internationally, so that receiver would pay all the fees .. ? If you really have some devices, I could reimburse, in fact, pay you up front, all the postal fees.
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I think the best way for you to pay upfront the shipping costs are through PayPal. You can send the money through PayPal in advance and the sender from the States can receive it and not have to pay for shipping from their own pocket.
Or
Western Union if that is available in Serbia, you can make an agreement with the sender and provide them with shipping costs.
I may have an older phone I may not need, I'll have to check first, but I'll let you know. Add me as a buddy so I can remember to get back to you.
-K
I have send and email claim about our Note 3 bootloader to [email protected].
So i have an response from his secretary. As i'm living in Thailand i can't do anything to continue this.
Can you guys help me? Can you contact his secretary and claim her about our unhappiness about
our lock bootloader, I think we can make something happen.
Original & response email at Rep #2.
Original Email
https://www.change.org/petitions/at...nk&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
To:
Randall Stephenson, AT&T CEO
We are petitioning for AT&T to unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Boot loader! AT&T, in choosing to intentionally lock the boot loader on this device, as well as others, is essentially denying us the ability to use OUR devices the way we need to, and prefer to. The success of Android, and one of the primary reasons it has overtaken all other mobile device operating systems is that it is FLEXIBLE. It's very raison d' etre is to be CUSTOMIZABLE - and it is the reason that the DEVELOPMENT COMUNITY has embraced it, and contributed to it in immeasurable ways. Any doubt that this SMALL, but SIGNIFICANT group has added so much to Android's success can be resolved by simply searching the internet for the fixes, creations, new abilities, and improvements to performance, ease of use, style and VERSATILITY of many, many devices from Mobile Hardware companies such as Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc.
The current inability of ONLY the AT&T and Verizon versions Galaxy Note 3 to accept custom firmware is already dissuading some from buying this phone, and even causing others to consider returning devices that they have recently bought. Many of these people are turning to the T-Mobile version, which, incidentally works on YOUR NETWORK. Wouldn't AT&T prefer to have these people on AT&T devices?
We understand that custom firmware cannot be supported by AT&T, or Samsung, and historically we have never expected or asked for it, but we consider that it is our right to customize our devices in any way we wish; after purchase, the device is our property alone to modify if we choose. HTC and later Asus implemented locked boot loaders on their devices in the last several years, but have since seen that giving users this freedom is the right thing to do, and are enabling users to unlock their devices if they so choose. This has been considered very welcome in the Android community, and we hope that AT&T will do the same. Be aware that we, the developers and enthusiasts are the first people that prospective customers go to for advice and opinion when considering a new phone purchase, and upgrade, or SWITCHING CARRIERS.
Even if a tool to unlock the boot loader required waiving warranty service in the way that HTC did almost 2 years ago. That single change brought about a complete reversal in the development community toward supporting and embracing the device. We know that Samsung did not make the choice to lock the boot loader; AT&T did. In the same way that T-Mobile did not. Users are going to switch to T-Mobile as a carrier in some cases, regardless of AT&T networks superiority. What does this indicate?
Please consider giving us the ability to unlock our phone's boot loader. We assure you that fostering a vibrant development community around the Galaxy Note 3will promote sales and establish AT&T's reputation in the community as an excellent and receptive supplier of mobile devices. It will further the image that AT&T users can "Rethink Possible", and opposed to having the image of "Possibilities Denied!"
We thank you for your consideration and attentive attitude toward this extremely important issue in the enthusiast community.
Sincerely,
Rxxxxx Jxxxxxxx
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Response Email #1
Please refer to Clarify case number CM20140325_85488852
My name is Heidi Terrell and I work within the Office of the President for AT&T. Our job is to resolve issues on behalf of senior leadership for the company. I will be your point of contact on this issue through resolution. To ensure that I have a full understanding of your requested resolution, I will be trying to reach out to you over the next few days, or feel free to call me at 228.819.6324.
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Response Email #2
Dear Mr./Ms. RXXX JXXXX,
Thank you for choosing AT&T Mobility (AT&T), as your wireless provider. As a valued customer, your complete satisfaction with the wireless service we provide is our first priority.
I recently received notification that you have an unresolved issue with your wireless service. I appreciate you taking the time to advise me of your concerns and welcome the opportunity to address this issue.
To address your wireless concerns, please contact me at your earliest convenience. I can be reached Monday through Friday, between the hours of 7:00 am and 3:30 pm CST, at 228-819-6324. Once again, you have my sincere apologies for any misunderstanding.
Respectfully,
Heidi Terrell
AT&T Mobility
Office of the President
228-819-6324
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Thank you for keeping us updated on the status of the locked loader petition. Keep up the good work! +1
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Been there, they called me to address this, gave me the how to and codes, unfortunately they were referring to unlocking the phone for use on other providers NOT unlocking the bootloader. I kept the email, not sure why thou lol.
See below, part of the final email
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My latest email.
Dear Heidi Terrell
Thank you for quick response, i love to use my AT&T note 3 but it has a full software problems.
Late of kitkat upgrade. many of it’s configuration and bloatware that doesn’t suite me.
As i’m android developer. i need to fix above problem myself. but i can’t due to
it’s bootloader lock. that contrast with some other carrier like T-mobile that sold the device
with unlock bootloader. I know AT&T has a lock bootloader policy due to device
stability. but i thinks android is openness platform. It better to open it.
this email i would like to begging you to report Randall to change this policy
that will make me and other 1500+ AT&T note 3 customer that sign this petition
very satisfied.
Best Regards
Rxxxx Jxxxx
AT&T Customer
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I doubt they'll unlock the bootloader. The S5 was released with a locked bootloader, so why would the unlock the Note 3's? I really like you guys are trying to do something about it at least, but I lost hope for an unlocked bootloader a long time ago.
Pandawg said:
I doubt they'll unlock the bootloader. The S5 was released with a locked bootloader, so why would the unlock the Note 3's? I really like you guys are trying to do something about it at least, but I lost hope for an unlocked bootloader a long time ago.
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:crying: Feel the reality.
stuff like this and fcc comp-laints, bugs them. I have had 4 phone calls about the bootloader, after filing fcc report
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stuff like this and fcc complaints, bugs them.
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AT&T wireless has 107M customers. Do you honestly believe they care about 1K tech fiends who are asking for something that's the polar opposite of what their B2B customers who number in the 10's of millions want? It took the FCC years to figure out the impact of SIM lock which is pretty basic and affects everyone using a carrier phone. Even if they picked up locked bootloaders for examination the Note 5 will be out by the time anything's done. And since it affects such a small niche and subset of wireless customers I doubt they'd pick up the issue at all. With the Edward Snowden affect on data security what possible case can be made for making any electronic device less secure? That's what asking for unlocked bootloaders really is. T-Mobile's starting to lock their bootloaders. It's tied to a push their making in to the B2B market. If Sprint ever gets their act together and is in a position to go after B2B they'll lock their bootloaders too.
Locked bootloaders are the future whether we like it or not.
Hey guys. AT&T want me to have a phone chat. As i'm living in Thailand, i can't call her.
So, do your guys help me talk with AT&T.
Please.
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AT&T wireless has 107M customers. Do you honestly believe they care about 1K tech fiends who are asking for something that's the polar opposite of what their B2B customers who number in the 10's of millions want? It took the FCC years to figure out the impact of SIM lock which is pretty basic and affects everyone using a carrier phone. Even if they picked up locked bootloaders for examination the Note 5 will be out by the time anything's done. And since it affects such a small niche and subset of wireless customers I doubt they'd pick up the issue at all. With the Edward Snowden affect on data security what possible case can be made for making any electronic device less secure? That's what asking for unlocked bootloaders really is. T-Mobile's starting to lock their bootloaders. It's tied to a push their making in to the B2B market. If Sprint ever gets their act together and is in a position to go after B2B they'll lock their bootloaders too.
Locked bootloaders are the future whether we like it or not.
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IMO, It is better to do something if we can.
i believe that the
tech fiends is why they locked the bootloader in the first place
Yep. Too many idiots bricking their phones and sending in for replacement.
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Not like it is hard to still brick a device...
In fact it is much easier to do so. I could easily brick my phone and send it in for replacement all because I don't like the scratches on the silver trim.
It is not because people were bricking. You guys say they don't care about our small community so they won't unlock bootloaders, bit then say too many people were doing stupid stuff to brick and they care so much... That is terribly ironic.
They don't care about us on either front. They want money. They want business contracts with large companies and the government. Therefore they need a stupidly secure bootloader and Knox to get these contracts. They are scripted to say that it is for secure and safe usage for all, but it is in fact for their big contractors.
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Amethystx said:
IMO, It is better to do something if we can.
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Kind of like the West's response to Russia taking over Crimea? I'm not trying to be negative but there were 1B smartphones sold last year alone. There are 5M XDA members of varying degrees of participation. The masses could care less about locked bootloaders, flash counters, and the like. The odds aren't in our favor and this seems like a losing battle; at least to me. A more winnable fight would be to get the carriers and device makers to offer gPE and developer versions of their devices for enthusiasts. That way everyone would be happy (more or less). But even when VZW/Samsung did that people *****ed about it not being available subsidized. We're a tough crowd to please.
I think if we keep pushing they will do some thing. I used to work for att now I work for another cell phone company that doesn't lock their devices. But when I worked for att they bend over backwards to do contacts or upgrades if someone is not happy. It's all about money you never know maybe they might use special codes that unlock bootloaders or use a area on their Web site to apply for an OTA to do so. Their is a lot of ways a company like att to make 1000 customers happy. Just for laughs I multiplied my bill with my state tax of 6% for 1000 people just for an example I have 4 lines each of us pay for our phones on the new mobile share priced at 160 for 10gbs a month the total again this is an example if we all switched out to another carrier they would lose out =7,453,920 in 2 year contracts
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Just picked up a note 5 really cheap, but had the google email still on it. Been trying for hours to figure out how to bypass it but no luck. I cant downgrade it and sidesync doesnt work. Any ideas of what I can do?
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Just picked up a note 5 really cheap, but had the google email still on it. Been trying for hours to figure out how to bypass it but no luck. I cant downgrade it and sidesync doesnt work. Any ideas of what I can do?
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Hi ,
Your explanation does not sound right. ?
You got phone "really cheap" ,
Phone has a Google email address.....
whose . E-mail ? Seller ?
Why don't you ask seller for password etc etc
Sounds like it could have been lost or stolen phone ?
In that case nobody on XDA will assist you .
Um what r u talking about lol? I got a cheap note with a clean imei. The dude prob forgot to turn his email off. I didnt ask questions since i paid less than the parts are worth, so it was a low risk buy. The guy left town and theres no way to reach him.
Either way my story isnt revelant. R u going to give me any useful info or just waste my time?
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Hi ,
Your explanation does not sound right. ?
You got phone "really cheap" ,
Phone has a Google email address.....
whose . E-mail ? Seller ?
Why don't you ask seller for password etc etc
Sounds like it could have been lost or stolen phone ?
In that case nobody on XDA will assist you .
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Um what r u talking about lol? I got a cheap note with a clean imei. The dude prob forgot to turn his email off. I didnt ask questions since i paid less than the parts are worth, so it was a low risk buy. The guy left town and theres no way to reach him.
Either way my story isnt revelant. R u going to give me any useful info or just waste my time?
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hi ,
have some "respect " towards other forum members ,when requesting assistance/advice .! or replying..!
I don't know the circumstances/fact's about how you got your device.!
Anyway,seeing that i "am wasting your time " ....
if you use search button and search the "Question and answers forum "
you will find a suitable answers !
Similar questions like yours ,
has been asked many times before .
(and answers given.)
Good luck
Well to be fair ur not showing any respect either. I asked a question and your just trying to judge me and assume the worst. Then you say you just cant help me. I say dont waste my time since your reply just wasnt helpful and didnt answer anything i asked.
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Well to be fair ur not showing any respect either. I asked a question and your just trying to judge me and assume the worst. Then you say you just cant help me. I say dont waste my time since your reply just wasnt helpful and didnt answer anything i asked.
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To be fair, the other user was not disrespecting you. He provided a legitimate answer of you contacting the seller. Xda does not allow tools that circumvent the lock you mention of. This question has been asked before and will always get the same response. No one on here is going to help you break security measures, even if the phone was acquired through legal and legitimate channels.
Have a wonderful day
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To be fair, the other user was not disrespecting you. He provided a legitimate answer of you contacting the seller. Xda does not allow tools that circumvent the lock you mention of. This question has been asked before and will always get the same response. No one on here is going to help you break security measures, even if the phone was acquired through legal and legitimate channels.
Have a wonderful day
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What kind of dumbass answer is that to "contact the seller"? Do you think im like a retarded child (or an apple user) lol? Why would that not be the first thing I would do instead of going on the internet and asking an android forum on alternatives?
If nobody was going to help me, then save your breathe by taking your time to say anything. Especially a bunch of stupid crap. And yes I will have a wonderful day not having any responses from any useless people. You all know the security features on any smartphones are total crap and are designed to get more people to spend money so enough with acting like your above everyone about it.
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What kind of dumbass answer is that to "contact the seller"? Do you think im like a retarded child (or an apple user) lol? Why would that not be the first thing I would do instead of going on the internet and asking an android forum on alternatives?
If nobody was going to help me, then save your breathe by taking your time to say anything. Especially a bunch of stupid crap. And yes I will have a wonderful day not having any responses from any useless people. You all know the security features on any smartphones are total crap and are designed to get more people to spend money so enough with acting like your above everyone about it.
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'sigh' Regardless of your opinion, the lock was designed as a deterrent to criminals. Phones can be bought for cheap and not encounter these locks, through websites like Swappa. Even if there were means to bypass it, why would anyone here trust that you acquired the device through legitimate means? You are a new user, and frankly rude and disrespectful to anyone that responds. I'm sorry, but even if there is a way to help, you give us no incentive to help you.
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'sigh' Regardless of your opinion, the lock was designed as a deterrent to criminals. Phones can be bought for cheap and not encounter these locks, through websites like Swappa. Even if there were means to bypass it, why would anyone here trust that you acquired the device through legitimate means? You are a new user, and frankly rude and disrespectful to anyone that responds. I'm sorry, but even if there is a way to help, you give us no incentive to help you.
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Im being "rude and disrespectful" since your acting like a jackass. I have worked for a major tech company and thats bull**** that locks are used to deterrent criminals since any criminal with a brain knows how to get around locks. The Note 5 on ATT is the only one I have had any issues with while almost every other Samsung device is extremely easy to bypass. Locks are designed to piss users off and lock idiots out of their devices so they can go and spend more money. Apple sells their customers databases to people for money instead of unlocking people's devices who accidentally got locked out of their stuff, so yes thats total bull**** that they are designed to protect the user. They love telling old people who dont know what day it is that they screwed up because their brain wasnt able to remember a hundred passwords and that they have to now shell out another few hundred dollars for more crap.
And why would you trust that I acquired a device through legitament means? Well I would say that it would mean that your a decent human being who gives people the benefit of the doubt, but considering your sitting on here just arguing with someone you dont even know like an asshole, I cant give you that much credit.
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Im being "rude and disrespectful" since your acting like a jackass. I have worked for a major tech company and thats bull**** that locks are used to deterrent criminals since any criminal with a brain knows how to get around locks. The Note 5 on ATT is the only one I have had any issues with while almost every other Samsung device is extremely easy to bypass. Locks are designed to piss users off and lock idiots out of their devices so they can go and spend more money. Apple sells their customers databases to people for money instead of unlocking people's devices who accidentally got locked out of their stuff, so yes thats total bull**** that they are designed to protect the user. They love telling old people who dont know what day it is that they screwed up because their brain wasnt able to remember a hundred passwords and that they have to now shell out another few hundred dollars for more crap.
And why would you trust that I acquired a device through legitament means? Well I would say that it would mean that your a decent human being who gives people the benefit of the doubt, but considering your sitting on here just arguing with someone you dont even know like an asshole, I cant give you that much credit.
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I Know that this is a very old thread. Your best bet is to either buy a octopus or something like it. They do various different things to Samsung and other phones. Imei resets, frp lock bypass etc. ( or pay someone who has the equipment already. Like [email protected] he can do it through your computer. But he will not touch a stolen phone.. Ok so if you have a blacklisted imei he will know.
I hope to find support inside the community of all xda-developers. For months I looked at different Top Smartphone models. I have now decided on 01 September for a Huawei P20 Pro. The hardware is convincing.
Shock! they don't give out bootloader unlock code anymore. So the hardware is worthless. My company forbids me to use software with Google or other Cloud applications as a working tool. And honestly, I don't want that either.
So there I am sitting on a 1000 USD expensive piece of ****.
I have made a video where I beat the new beautiful useless piece of dirt with a hammer and burn afterwards.
This is very promotional and recorded with my (rooted) ASUS Phone
Who would like to support me and send videos or post them on Youtube. I make a nice website where all videos are collected and invest another 1000 USD to get on Google at place 1. I need at least 1000 videos
I need your support. Think of something nice to rape and abuse a Huawei Phone. Make a nice movie and show what you think of Huawei.
I have started a contribution on Reddit hoping to find broad support. I have been deceived. worthless hardware and lost a lot of money. :crying:
So you destroyed your phone (that you paid for - and that Huawei already has the money for) to show them.
And you would like others to buy a phone and destroy it. How will that hurt them exactly?
First Nike, then this.. **sigh**
The way you think and what you typed in your post dropped my IQ to zero.. thank you.
DestroyHuawei said:
I hope to find support inside the community of all xda-developers. For months I looked at different Top Smartphone models. I have now decided on 01 September for a Huawei P20 Pro. The hardware is convincing.
Shock! they don't give out bootloader unlock code anymore. So the hardware is worthless. My company forbids me to use software with Google or other Cloud applications as a working tool. And honestly, I don't want that either.
So there I am sitting on a 1000 USD expensive piece of ****.
I have made a video where I beat the new beautiful useless piece of dirt with a hammer and burn afterwards.
This is very promotional and recorded with my (rooted) ASUS Phone
Who would like to support me and send videos or post them on Youtube. I make a nice website where all videos are collected and invest another 1000 USD to get on Google at place 1. I need at least 1000 videos
I need your support. Think of something nice to rape and abuse a Huawei Phone. Make a nice movie and show what you think of Huawei.
I have started a contribution on Reddit hoping to find broad support. I have been deceived. worthless hardware and lost a lot of money. :crying:
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You're not quite right in the head
One quick google search could have saved ya 1000$. That must sting.
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And you would like others to buy a phone and destroy it. How will that hurt them exactly?
First Nike, then this.. **sigh**
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you have misunderstood something. I want to prevent anyone else from buying a phone from Huawei.
The internet is now full of people who feel the same way as I do. Individually Huawei will tell everyone that YOU CUSTOMERS are worth nothing and YOU CUSTOMERS have no rights. Only together are we strong. We need a ****storm.
I don't think one of this forum is good for what they've done.
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You're not quite right in the head
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You're absolutely right about that. Very angry and looking for revenge. I'd like to see your face if someone cheated you out of so much money.
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One quick google search could have saved ya 1000$. That must sting.
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It is very painful ... Yes.
today a "quick" google search still results in hundreds, if not thousands of instructions how to unlock the bootloader ... that's why I bought this. And now ??
Afterwards one is always smarter.
another Google search results that I am not the only one. I can't imagine that the development community is very enthusiastic about it.
So why didn't you just put it back into the box and sold it as new, unused, just too big for my taste or something? Or if you bought it online, why didn't you just return it as it's not working as you intended? Why destroying the value of the phone and then search for revenge afterwards? Just doesn't make sense.
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So why didn't you just put it back into the box and sold it as new, unused, just too big for my taste or something? Or if you bought it online, why didn't you just return it as it's not working as you intended? Why destroying the value of the phone and then search for revenge afterwards? Just doesn't make sense.
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I live in Southeast Asia in the middle of the jungle. The people here earn as much as this thing costs per year. Sending it back is also not so easy if you bought it in Hong Kong and you come back in 3 months.
Guys, thanks for the advice. But I want to fight. I won't put up with it. Otherwise I could have bought an IPhone. Probably nobody wants that here.
Why do these useless threads keep popping up...?
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The way you think and what you typed in your post dropped my IQ to zero.. thank you.
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Talking about your IQ or my IQ is something we better not do in public.
Your device is surely unlocked.
I want to see your face when they come up with the idea to check online if something is "manipulated" and just block your device.
Because this is the next step that comes.
"We've discovered that your device has been tampered with. For your security we have locked your phone. Please do not call Huawei Support" :laugh:
Just a thought game.
CaseyS said:
Why do these useless threads keep popping up...?
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Do you like what they did?
If you get cheated, don't you go against it?
Sad
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Do you like what they did?
If you get cheated, don't you go against it?
Sad
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Doesn't particularly bother me because I did my research before purchasing my phone and obtained my unlock code shortly after receiving my device. The company can do what they want. Not everything will please everyone and its not always a smart decision on their part, but research is key when looking into a phone especially when you're wanting to unlock and modify the system. Sucks you were too late to the party, but you'll just have deal with it and the smart decision on your part should have been to sell your device and buy one that pleases you instead of destroying a perfectly good bit of hardware
No unlock code = hardware is worthless
What have you been smoking?
Another useless post from a useless user...... USELESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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I think it's better to spam Huawei's support's mailbox with a petitions for bringing bootloader unlocking option back.
@DestroyHuawei
Feel for you mate.
You live and you learn.
Huawei stopped this a while back (learning that is, that and unlocking bootloaders)
Next time you commit a lot of money to a mobile device you'll research first.
Research, then research again, its just like anything else, you wouldn't buy a car because it sounded good, you'd want to know the pros and cons.
With that being said..
Where is this video of you beating your phone to death. Id love to see it
Sorry
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Talking about your IQ or my IQ is something we better not do in public.
Your device is surely unlocked.
I want to see your face when they come up with the idea to check online if something is "manipulated" and just block your device.
Because this is the next step that comes.
"We've discovered that your device has been tampered with. For your security we have locked your phone. Please do not call Huawei Support" :laugh:
Just a thought game.
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I mentioned MY IQ.. not yours, That's #1
#2, no. my device is not unlocked, and i will never need to unlock it.
Stop crying.
If I knew they were no longer giving a code
I did not buy a Huawei device
My next device will be from One Plus