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[Q] Galaxy Note 4 turn the volume down while running...

My brother is having problems with his Note 4... It turns the volume all the way down when using the phone while running on the treadmill.... Doesn't matter if the phone is in his pocket or sitting still on the treadmill, doesn't matter which music app he's listening to and doesn't matter what headphones he's using.... The phone has been reset and it didn't make a difference, the phone has been replaced and the problem persist....hes removed Pandora, he removed power amp, he's removed live wallpapers AND all at the request of tmobile trouble shooting process... NOTHING!!! the problem seems to be isolate to him and up until today's search I couldn't find anyone else experiencing this issue... But finally today I came accross this thread
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...olume-turns-down-while-listening-pandora.html
But still no solution

Been running all the Pandora and stock music app no issue
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & BAD ASS GEAR S

I also have a Note 4 and so does my wife and neither of us have similar problems with our phones... I'm looking for help with this problem, not more examples of the problem being non existent... If it effected EVERYONE then I wouldn't be at a loss... I don't mean to be rude and if I seem that way please accept my apologies... I just don't want this to turn into a thread of testimonials of how no one else is experiencing this issue.

Just for ****s and giggles. Did you try to use phone while jogging outside. Does it still lowers volume down? That way you would eliminate possibility of interference from treadmill.
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Actually at one point he thought it was Pandora because he was using the unlimited skip apk version of it and in his mind that made it suspect... He removed it and the problem went away... (so he thought) then while jogging home it happened again... He calls the phone "Samsuck" and it makes me feel like **** because I recommended it and I know he's very frustrated... I'm the techy person in the family (everyone comes to me) and I'm at a loss... I'm not an apk developer or a computer wiz of any sort but I'm slightly gifted and I've been installing competition level car audio for 20+ years, so electronics in general are 2nd nature to me

Are you using any sound enhancing software? When I was using Noozxoide Eizo sometimes I was losing volume control by mechanical buttons and touch control via screen after I change volume up/down rapidly. Only restarting phone fixed that. Since I no longer using that soft problem disappeared.
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No unfortunately... If it's software related then it's nothing apparent, nothing like that has been downloaded

juanito157 said:
No unfortunately... If it's software related then it's nothing apparent, nothing like that has been downloaded
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Have you reset the phone and have him just use it stock and only listen to mp3? Then start adding "music" apps one by one.

SiNJiN76 said:
Have you reset the phone and have him just use it stock and only listen to mp3? Then start adding "music" apps one by one.
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He's waiting for his 2nd replacement now... I asked him not to install ANYTHING except Pandora and to use that to work out for a few days and then start installing his apps one at a time... (honestly this is not something he wants to do) He's already extremely frustrated with his phone (as he should be) after all its almost an $800 device... Tmobile told him that if he has issues with this one, they would start talking about a different replacement... He's considering the LG G3... However the way tmobile worded it I'm not exactly sure if they will honestly let him out of this contract and into another... I hope they do... I myself know how electronics can behave and my frustration comes with some understanding that the process of elimination is a crucial part of the process in problems such as these... But even I don't understand Samsung and there constant [email protected]$465sh%)t with these phones... WiFi connectivity issues, incoming messages and alerts lowering bluetooth volume, OK Google no longer pausing music when activated and for me mirrorlink doesn't work with my Brand new pioneer deck... And it's clearly a Samsung issue (I've researched the crap out of it)... Everytime I purchase a new Samsung I tell myself it's my last one and EVERTIME they release another must have flagship phone... I'm a geek and can't help myself but my brother unfortunately just wants something that works without all these issues... He doesn't own a pc and I've taught him how to torrent straight to his device and he's hooked!!! Unlimited skip Pandora apk also is a must have for him and for those 2 reasons I can not recommend an iPhone but otherwise an iPhone would be a better fit for him... For me? Android all the way, all the time!! Thanks everyone for trying to help, I truly appreciate it

Assuming that your mirror link deck is 1.1 version try use this quide.
http://www.primeinspiration.com/how-to-use-mirrorlink-on-your-samsung-galaxy-note-4.html
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Thanks... It's a 2015 deck and although I don't remember the software version number I do know it's the same version mirrorlink as the note 4... Pioneer customer service assured me it was the device I needed for Note 4 compatibility... I'll try it, although the instructions are a little strange... Bluetooth has to be on?? As soon as the radio sees a USB connection, it disables Bluetooth and the other was make sure my phone is connected to WiFi or a network connection? Not sure what that's about??? I would have to deliberately turn it off so I'm sure it was on the last time I tried to enable mirrorlink.

NFC issues

Hello,
I have been having a lot of trouble with NFC/Android pay recently, on the PDQ terminl the phone will often not seem topresent the token via NFC, I can use Android beam ok, device to device seems fine, but passive NFC tags seem to be an issue, I have tested with a few tags and they dont seem to pick up, i've also had a lot of issues using my yubikey, I think this is an issue with the NFC antenna, has anyone else experienced issues using NFC?
I wanted to ask before I ontact support.
Thanks.

NFC on phones with metal body generally have one sweet spot that you have to find out as manufacturers don't think putting this info somewhere is good idea.
In case of Nokia 8 I found out with help of people from other forums that this sweet spot is when you touch terminal with top frame (plastic part) and phone is at about 45 degree angle from the terminal's display. This way paying with Bank app or Android Pay goes through consistently.

The NFC on my Nokia 8 has made paying so much easier than on my Moto G5 Plus, on the Moto G5 Plus you had to be bang on, on the Nokia i seem to have a bigger area to play with so payments are much easier.

Since the update to Oreo I find that before I can read an NFC tag I have to turn off NFC and then turn it back on before it will successfully read. It worked fine with Nougat. Any ideas? Guess I'll wipe the cache partition from recovery and see if that helps.

John Hoyne said:
Since the update to Oreo I find that before I can read an NFC tag I have to turn off NFC and then turn it back on before it will successfully read. It worked fine with Nougat. Any ideas? Guess I'll wipe the cache partition from recovery and see if that helps.
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Did this work? I'm having exactly the same problems with Transport for London terminals since the Oreo update. Works ok everywhere else but there I have to turn NFC off and back on and it works first time.

I found there is no choice in the Nokia 8 Recovery menu to clear cache partition after the Oreo update. Seemingly cache is handled different than in Nougat. I did wipe the cache and data from the NFC service itself via Apps and Notifications in Settings; at first it seemed to fix things but results were short-lived. Someone else has suggested that once NFC is switched off and back on it will stay functional up until the next time screen is locked.
At this point I'm resigned to waiting for the next update from Nokia.

Since I updated Oreo I think NFC is worse than before.
I think is more difficult to pay with my banks. One app hangs itself when I pay, the other one gives me an error. Sometimes NFC is not readed by the TPV. In Nougat I didn't have this problems.
It seems I have to aim for reading, appears the mobile has a very little NFC area. My girlfriend's mobile (Xperia Z1 compact) has a bigger NFC area.
I cannot read NFC post bus tags and Android Beam doesn't work. It's very rare.
Does your Android Beam or read NFC work fine? I'd have to do some configuration that I haven't done?
Thank you
Edit: I have noticed that NFC works reading a Card but it's very slow. I mean, I put the phone over the Visa card and the phone is over 3 seconds reading data. My girlfriend's mobile reads it while I'm putting it over the card... Maybe Oreo problem?

I didn't notice any change when paying - works as well as before once you know how to place the phone to the terminal.

revanmj said:
I didn't notice any change when paying - works as well as before once you know how to place the phone to the terminal.
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I'm very disgusted. Now I have tried to pay with the phone and it didn't work. Finally i payed with a normal card.
I have read that NFC area is over the flash in the rear camera. Other people say that is located at left of the front camera.
Can somebody attach an image showing what is the correct form to place the phone on the TPV or where is the NFC area?
Thank you

mikote2000 said:
Can somebody attach an image showing what is the correct form to place the phone on the TPV or where is the NFC area?
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Tried the best I could
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revanmj said:
Tried the best I could View attachment 4358183
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It's very helpful. I will try soon
Thank you!
EDIT: I have payed 4 times this Saturday with no issues at all. Since I place the phone like revanmj suggested, it works perfect!

NFC payment never worked with my Nokia 8 so far after using it a lot with my old phone, a Samsung Galaxy S6 edge. Android Beam works perfectly with the NOKIA 8.
Nokia support wasn't helpful.

Gee-Jay said:
NFC payment never worked with my Nokia 8 so far after using it a lot with my old phone, a Samsung Galaxy S6 edge. Android Beam works perfectly with the NOKIA 8.
Nokia support wasn't helpful.
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There is a bug with the Oreo update. If you approach the terminal with your screen off and just press the power button while the contactless symbol is displayed on the machine then Android Pay should work every time. If you try unlocking with your fingerprint scanner to pay, or try paying with your screen unlocked already then it usually fails.

Turning on NFC before paying and turning off after paying, do the trick for me. Now I can always pay, with no issues.
I reckon that applications seems to be important. Spanish ING app is awful and fails a lot. Android Pay always works for me.

mikote2000 said:
Turning on NFC before paying and turning off after paying, do the trick for me. Now I can always pay, with no issues.
I reckon that applications seems to be important. Spanish ING app is awful and fails a lot. Android Pay always works for me.
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Surely it’s easier to just turn the screen off and then light the phone up with the power button than toggle NFC on and off?
Android Pay only always work for you because you toggle NFC on and off by the sounds of it. It always works for me too if I use the power button method but it isn’t supposed to be like this. It’s a fault and Nokia have been completely useless about acknowledging it - or any other issues. All they seem to care about is self-promotion and retweeting photos taken on Nokias.

My NFC works well for Payments (Through my Banks app not android pay - my bank don't support android pay annoyingly.) if the screen is on.. it doesn't matter how long its been on. I have to hold the phone at 45 degrees to the payment device as someone showed earlier.
It doesn't however.. ever work for passive tags (bank cards, passport, NFC stickers etc), the angle position and turning on/off or unlocking dont make any difference.. it never works.
It does seem like the problems are inconsistent and some devices work better than others.. Nokia really need to address the issue.

NFC fixed in Beta of 8.1
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interestingly, I can read tags and cards better by holding it flat on the area just under the cameras, on ta-1012. I've not tried with a payment terminal yet, but it shouldn't be different... should it?

Don't want to upgrade to oreo

Is it possible to prevent the update to 8.0?
I've read conflicting stories, some say turn off auto download and just ignore the update messages.
Others say the upgrade will install regardless.
Which is it?

It's preventable to some extent i guess... But it pops again and again... And then the system is going to get buggy.... Any particular reason not to upgrade....

beaverHausen said:
Is it possible to prevent the update to 8.0?
I've read conflicting stories, some say turn off auto download and just ignore the update messages.
Others say the upgrade will install regardless.
Which is it?
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You can untick the option but some people reported it eventually installed anyways. To be safe I would disable the specific packages, but yes it's possible.

sefrcoko said:
You can untick the option but some people reported it eventually installed anyways. To be safe I would disable the specific packages, but yes it's possible.
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Thanks buddy, how do you disable the packages?

If your using a carrier unlocked version you can simply move to a different carrier and if your drivers are not up to date you will never get a notification to update. I currently have an ATT unlocked note 8 running on T-Mobile still on 7.1.1 as you can see

I prevented the updates by not allowing autoupdates in settings, as I knew that this was not entirely reliable, I used bk disabler pro plugin, if you are still running 7.1.1, it is easy to do it this way

Any reason why you don't want to install the latest version of Android on your device? As you are leaving your device opened to security flaws.

iceepyon said:
Any reason why you don't want to install the latest version of Android on your device? As you are leaving your device opened to security flaws.
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I spend a lot of time in my car inbetween appointments, visiting clients etc.
Its important that I'm up to speed at work and the Note 8 was (until oreo and 1st October patch) the only device that gave me email, sms and system messages in my BMW.
Whilst driving, the car would read out my emails and if it was important I could make a call in response. Now, my note 8 doesn't even see the car, nothing, zilch, nada.
I know BT works on other pairings, I can pair the phone to my other devices but it just will not see the car and the car now won't see the phone. I can pair other phones to it but none of them give me email which is molto importante!
I have already updated the car BT and like I've said, it used to work up until a month ago.
So, I'm trading in my note 8 for a new one that is still on 7.1.1 as I'm dead in the water without connectivity whilst travelling.
I have been on with Samsung support who say BMW need to make an updated BT oreo firmware and, BMW say the same about Samsung.

beaverHausen said:
I spend a lot of time in my car inbetween appointments, visiting clients etc.
Its important that I'm up to speed at work and the Note 8 was (until oreo and 1st October patch) the only device that gave me email, sms and system messages in my BMW.
Whilst driving, the car would read out my emails and if it was important I could make a call in response. Now, my note 8 doesn't even see the car, nothing, zilch, nada.
I know BT works on other pairings, I can pair the phone to my other devices but it just will not see the car and the car now won't see the phone. I can pair other phones to it but none of them give me email which is molto importante!
I have already updated the car BT and like I've said, it used to work up until a month ago.
So, I'm trading in my note 8 for a new one that is still on 7.1.1 as I'm dead in the water without connectivity whilst travelling.
I have been on with Samsung support who say BMW need to make an updated BT oreo firmware and, BMW say the same about Samsung.
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Have you tried booting your device into Recovery Mode and wiping the cache partition? This may resolve your issue.

iceepyon said:
Have you tried booting your device into Recovery Mode and wiping the cache partition? This may resolve your issue.
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Yeah tried that.
Also stopped BT and wiped cache and data from apps > system apps also.
Tried different BT AVCRP versions from developer mode and have factory reset the phone.
Still won't connect.

Do you encounter the same issues when connecting your Note 8 to other bluetooth devices or bluetooth enabled vehicles?

iceepyon said:
Do you encounter the same issues when connecting your Note 8 to other bluetooth devices or bluetooth enabled vehicles?
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Works fine in my wife's car (Ford) and the Polar heart rate monitor I use. I don't connect to much else but I can see other devices in a BT search, but not my car.

beaverHausen said:
Works fine in my wife's car (Ford) and the Polar heart rate monitor I use. I don't connect to much else but I can see other devices in a BT search, but not my car.
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Do other devices see your car? It might be an inconveniently timed problem with your BMW, rather than the other way around?

StevePritchard said:
Do other devices see your car? It might be an inconveniently timed problem with your BMW, rather than the other way around?
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My old HTC One M8 is paired as is my wife's iPhone 6S (yuk)

beaverHausen said:
My old HTC One M8 is paired as is my wife's iPhone 6S (yuk)
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Can you get a hold of another Note 8 running Nougat and trying pair that with your BMW? If it is indeed an Oreo issue I would recommend that you report it to Samsung and wait for them to address it via a OS Update.

winol said:
I prevented the updates by not allowing autoupdates in settings, as I knew that this was not entirely reliable, I used bk disabler pro plugin, if you are still running 7.1.1, it is easy to do it this way
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Where can I find this?
Seems to have gone from play store...

Yes.... I took a look, and unfortunately even in the developer's page it is no longer available, and it can not be installed from an unofiicial source as it needs to be validated and activated by the developer, but, take a look at this:
https://kunkunsoft.wordpress.com/fix-package-disabler/

Question Cloned? Mirrored? Hacked? Wtf?

Ok. First thought they got into my gmail, and since all my accounts are linked for recovery options stayed on the reset, uninstall/reinstall, factory reset hamster wheel for a while. Multiple companies customer service for hours, just to tell me it should be working, hang up on me, ask me something completely retarded that i might be doing as the issue, escalate me to another dept. All to no avail. So, i factory reset an old phone not hooked up, brand new gmail not linked to anything, set up google wifi (for 1st time) on it and loaded security camera apps on it. And they still got in and erased all my security videos. Got cameras to not reapond, notifications to not come through even though all says everything was fine. Settings not changed. Before they had been affecting ceetain aspects of apps from Google play. Made it so i couldnt download from there as well. Or if i tried something would get kicked out before i could finish said task. Even changed the "this device" in my google account. Spoofed mac & ips for known devices on wifi. Changed info in every account, still locked out of 3. 4 trips from internet company. 4 routers, 2 extender, modem/router combo, 7 cameras from 2 systems. End result? Me beating my head against the wall telling everyone, sorry but thats not what is happening on my phone/laptop, to evreyone thinking i am crazy and they are still in my stuff. Any thought yo how this is possible? P.s. 100% believe its my meth head neighbors but never would think them clever enough or would have the kind of money to spend on equipment to be able to pull something like this off. Please for the love of God someone help. This is way above my pay grade [email protected]
336 686 6949 at this point i just dont care i just need serious help

Android Auto for phone screens is final stopped?

Even the Android Auto for phone screens was retired for Android 12, you can still use it on old Androids 11, 10. A month ago a message appear "Android Auto for phone screens will stop working soon", but still can use it.
Today I tried to start the app and instead appear the Android Auto settings page and no more Android Auto for phone screens. I have Miui 12.5.7 with Android 11 and Android Auto 7.6.621734-release.
Its only me or they kill out AAFPS for good?

For me the same...

Android Auto is now on the scrap heap; in short it will no longer work as a stand-alone.
Google have thrown a kill-switch (2 days ago now) for discrete mode so that now, it can only work in screen-mirroring mode which necessitates a compatible infotainment system/head unit (check the message it opens with).
The official alternative on offer is Driving Mode in the Google Assistant. It's of dubious quality, especially for devices older than Android 10, where it really is just a shortcut to Google Maps.
Alternative apps/launchers are available but they are either expensive or just plain rubbish (and often both).

I'm sorry to hear this is confirmed. So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit.
Driving Mode in the Google Assistant is a just simple no-go. Here in Romania we use a lot Waze for police report, traffic jams and bad roads. Also since romanian language is not supported , you can spell some small commands in english, but to convince it to drive you at address or even to call your mom is very difficult.
So now I'm without alternative .

triovi said:
...So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit...
...So now I'm without alternative .
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Indeed - and you are not alone as many reviews on Google Play confirm.
One other option is to roll-back to an older version. If you don't have a backup then APKMirror might be for you:-
Android Auto on APKMirror
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...

xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...
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I'll give it a try: my Renault Megane is half destroyed and now I have to use (for long time) a Seat Leon without AA enabled!
I've started AA on my old (but still running fine) Motorola Moto G5 and is not working anymore... Problem is that the phone is running Android 8.1 so Drive Assistant is not available (it needs at least Android 9!)

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FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
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I'll give it a try
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on my pc I had a few backups, I have removed the current build and installed Android Auto_7.2.620123-release and it worked flawlessly!
I'll look for a more recent build on APKmirror!
Addendum: tried with v7.6 but got the advice. For my Android v8.1 the last working is v7.2!

Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.

I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...

Google are literally murderers , besides all the people they have stranded or driven of the road or over ravines with their crappy maps app
they have probably killed thousands in traffic accidents with their garbage software
,this new "driving mode" is no exception , I mean AA was an absolute out of control garbage fire just like GA is but this "driving mode" is over the top
even for the complete morons over at Google.
I can not tell you how many accidents I have almost got into since they removed trusted voice unlock and now that this POS driving mode has replaced AA it has gotten MUCH worse, they should be sued for this dangerous crap they have forced on us, I will NOT be buying another pixel EVER.
fist of all this POS continually turns the screen off and locks the device forcing me to unlock the phone continuously while driving,
they are so S all stupid they didn't even bother to make it rotate to landscape mode and my car mount is for landscape only. (only people who hold their guns sideways would want to use their phones in portrait mode as they always seem to do when taking word star videos)
the "driving mode" is pure trash ,there are no audio controls, you can't use it if you just want to listen to music and for phone calls because it's tied to maps and you have be using navigation to use it.
there is NOTHING here of any value I mean who TF wants to read the New York Slimes, ever and especially WHILE DRIVING, yeah great replacement to music apps and music controls.
There is no way in hell I would ever give these evil bastards my biometric data so here I am trying to unlock my phone with a pattern every 30 seconds while it is mounted landscape and the unlock pattern is in portrait mode, I have to tilt my head or try and figure out my lock pattern adjusted for it being tilted 90 degree off while I'm driving every 30 seconds because the screen keeps turning off and locking the device even though I have "smartlock" (DUMBlock) enabled and my cars bluetooth added as a "trusted device" as well as a smart band, but it just seems to ignore the fact both are connected.
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs, every single last one of them should have been kicked the F out on their arses a long time ago. , maybe we need to get Elon over there.

SOFO888 said:
I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...
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please don't give up and keep trying other wise I am switching back to IOS, I just can't deal with this S
maybe I can throw away my pixel 3a XL and just go back to my old 6p on Nougat
this is not acceptable, what other options are there, I have an echo auto I never set up maybe that will be better.

peetig said:
Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.
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F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.

My idea is to install an alternative launcher as soon as you are connected to your car's Bluetooth system. I mean a launcher made for driving with big icons and so on.
With tasker you could additionally make a task to increase the display timeout to infinite when connected to your car's Bluetooth system.

gdroid666 said:
F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.
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Goodbye.

gdroid666 said:
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs,
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Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
gdroid666 said:
maybe we need to get Elon over there.
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Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....

xanda-escuyer said:
Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....
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Thing is most cars don't have it still
the stand alone android units just suck because they don't have any connection method unless they use your phone as a hotspot , unless they have some with sim cards, but now sim cards are being phased out too, and I would not spend more money a month just to keep my head unit connected to GSM
I would buy a head unit if they made one that had wireless android auto baked in but there are none, at least not what I want, I want one for my BMW E46 that looks pretty close to stock, Android head units like that are a dime a dozen for this thing but none of them have AA or wireless AA
,what they should really make is a tablet that has wireless AA built in
or a fire tablet that acts as an echo show auto but with a screen
that you can mount to your dash ,sucks that all the hardware has been there to this for like a decade but because of theese big cancer monopolies we can't use the hardware to its full potential
I have yet to try reloaded yet but I have feeling it will not be good
but here is no reason this can't run on low end tablet like a fire tablet
maybe I will finally get around to trying out my echo auto that I picked up for $20 that has been sitting here not even unboxed for over a year now
thing is that my grom unit is a PITA to pair to my phone , you need to pull 3 different fuses to erase it and repair a new device and then once you do the feature that send the ID4 tags to the display on the radio might not work then you have to pair it all over agian , I am wondering if echo auto will send the track data to the grom and if it will display on the stock radio display like it does with the phone , then maybe I will just ditch GA altogether
its a horrible trash fire anyways , if Amazon made a fire phone again with hands free Alexa baked in I would buy it in hearbeat, anything to get rid of GA

mike.s said:
Goodbye.
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Yeah ok ,see ya, I was thinking about buying a 7 pro but not now
F Google , I will NEVER buy another phone from them until they bring back trusted voice unlock and make their phones useable while driving
android is a nothing but a trash fire now, mainly because GA just sucks now
doesn't work while driving , doesn't work with hands free at all not even while using buds, unacceptable trash OS and very dangerous to use while driving people will die in accidents because of Googles moronic decisions and negligence, again F Google I'm out.

gdroid666 said:
Yeah ok ,see ya,..
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Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...

xanda-escuyer said:
Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...
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Yes everything Google does frustrates me, these people are absolutely obtuse
ok so do you have any suggestions for alternatives?
maybe there is a 3rd party app?
I have a Grom bluetooth unit and they have an app called dashlinq but I have not tried it yet
not sure how it will work with Google assistant
so are there any other 3rd party apps that do essentially the same thing as AA?
not sure if this dashlinq app uses GA or not or if it has it's own voice recognition.
I am surprised that there is not a way to keep using AA though as there is with Google play music ,which you can stil use if you have the right legacy version installed despite its replacement with YT music.
I am still confident there is a way, and also a bit confused
on weather it is going to work on my phone still since I have not updated past Android 11 , guess I will try installing some older .apk's and see if it is only not working anymore on Android 12.

gdroid666 said:
I'm out.
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You keep saying that.