[GUIDE] How to fix "drawing without touch" SPen issue. - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion

[Solution]
Since nobody gave a damn and I searched REALLY HARD for a solution. I will take one step forward and help anyone who maybe will have (or already have) this problem in the future.
What you will need:
- Glue ( I recommend a Glue Stick, since it fixes good and can be easily removed.)
- Aluminum Foil
- Scissor
You will have to crop a little rectangle and test in which height of your SPen the foil will stop the problem.
In mine happened this way:
too close to the tip and the pen won't be detected
Too far from the tip and the problem remains.
In this position all functions work as intended. See photo.
Hit thanks if I helped you!
I did not want to use warranty because I will hate to wait weeks without a cellphone.
You can paint the foil for aesthetics purposes as I will manage to do better than I did
The cropped foil can be in the minimum size you achieve to make it work. Foil is very thin so there is no problems in inputting and removing from the slot.

Duplicate thread.
Hello, you already created the same thread here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/spen-drawing-specific-portions-screen-t3909390
If you want to change the post in any way just click the Edit button.
No need to create a new thread all-together. Clutters the board.
Thanks.
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Is anybody interested in a step by step guide for tightening

Is anybody interested in a step by step guide for tightening the inevitable-to-loosen sliding hinge of the Blue Angel? If so, I'd be willing to take my own BA apart(again) and take step-by-step pictures and give step-by-step instructions in the efforts of tightening the sliding hinge which gets oh-so-loose on our beloved Blue Angels.
It'll take me all of maybe 3-4 hours just so I can include all the details. I can even try to slap the text into a translator for the foreign users out there.
If anybody is interested at all, just let me know in a post or a p.m.
I'll tell you right now, when i tightened the slider of my BA, I felt like a child who just got their much anticipated Christmas present!
~Tim(Techie-Tim)
I would be very interested on a guide to tightening the slider!!!
Why not post it in wiki ??
I too would be interested. I recently lost one of the side screws so as soon as the replacements (www.pocketpctechs.com) arrive, I plan to undertake a thorough investigation and tightening of all the screws in my BA.
david
One more note*
I'd like to add in as well that most of the tightening of the slider of the BA requires more than just tightening the screws, much of it ivolves slight bends in the steel panels on the inside (I'll have pictures to demonstrate)
I'll have a 2-screw-removal-only for those of you who wish to not tamper with their warrenty sticker underneath their battery which covers one of the screws necessary for complete BA disassembly.
Also: For those of you willing to take your Blue Angels apart, MAKE SURE you keep track of all the screws you remove from your device, what I do is place the screws in order of when i took them out. What you could also do is make sticky notes for each set or pair of screws, numbering each sticky note with a corresponding number made in pencil on your device(Pencil will come off/rub away with normal use)
ONE MORE THING! If you wish to, you will be given instructions on how to apply a screen protector on a truly flat surface, if you happen to have done an un-satisfactory job on your first one.
If I think of anything else, I'll be sure to post it!
Cheers!
~Tim
I will be happy to see how to apply protector and detailed explaination of disassembling and reassembling the device
Thanks in advance
looking forward to it too!
two things to add:
it sounds weird, but I've successfully tightened the sliding part without taking anything apart: slide the keyboard out, then carefully apply pressure to the top and bottom of the rear of the phone while pushing down in the middle from the front side. (it sounds like an awkward motion, but it puts a little resistance on the track that the screen slides on, thus tightening it).
also, I have the harrier (cdma blueangel without gsm or wifi). simply by removing two screens on the sides of the phone are removed, my phone automatically hard resets (this has been reproduced on other harriers, and with different ROMs...
Please search the forum..I remember posting the steps to tighten and prevent the slider marks on the key board...may be MDAIII user can put it in Wiki..(sorry ...too late for me so pls search)
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I wouldn't recommend doing that what was described on pictures... It looks insane. It would be better just to stick anything to this horisontal (when device is at it's cardle)bar(on display's part back), using tape. Safier IVMHO, and effect should be noticeable.
xan said:
I wouldn't recommend doing that what was described on pictures... It looks insane. It would be better just to stick anything to this horisontal (when device is at it's cardle)bar(on display's part back), using tape. Safier IVMHO, and effect should be noticeable.
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I agree, there are much easier ways to get the screen away from the slide!
Use a 'case opening tool' and prise it away from the bottom end first - there are lugs at the top holding the frame you may break using this method!
Check the wiki - there was a method in there once.
Richard

warranty case?

hey, my kaiser is about 11 months old, has never been dropped or anything, treated very well, carried in pocket only.
however, when the device is closed, the halfes do not fit as well as they used to, there is a 2 - 3 mm gap between them looking from the side where the camera button is. if i remember correctly when i got the device there was no gap and the two parts fit together perfectly.
also, when closed, the 2 parts are kinda "loose", moving around some milimeters.
sliding works well, though. anyone got the same problem? is this a warranty case?
dunno if you have a waranty case...
BUT!!!
i remember a thread about this EXACT SAME problem...your alignment issue can be resolved by yourself after going through the thread...pictures were attached in the thread and if i remember correctly, it has to do with two very small (about 1mm x 1mm) pieces of rubber (that act as cushioning stoppers) on either side of the sliding mechanism along the side where the sim door is...
search for the thread to get a better idea...it was right here in the Kaiser General section...
i'll edit this post if i come across the thread
good luck
i might have misunderstood your question...my initial understanding was that the slide doesn't close completely and leaves the two halves misaligned. that is holding the phone in your hand in portrait mode with the screen facing you, the left or right edge of the top half would hang out a bit over the corresponding edge of the bottom half
but i think you are talking about a gap BETWEEN the halves such that maybe you could slide a credit card between the two halves of your phone???
if my new understanding is correct, there is a thread about THAT as well...essentially, you'll need special screw drivers (look at the screws that hold the top half to the slide mechanism to get an idea of whats needed)...then just tighten the screws to narrow the gap
once again, it would be better if you go find the ACTUAL thread...i swear i'm not making them up...they DO exist !!!

[Q] Hardware fixes - anyone tried...

I am the proud owner of a new I9000, the b*&tard love child of 2 ebay purchases. Just wondering whether the leftover entrails are worth keeping. Specifically:
- broken USB port. I have a replacement part and looks easy enough to de/solder. Anyone tried??
- vol down button. Looks a nightmare to try to replace. Anyone tried??
- chip in screen. Not worried about it being perfect but its too deep to polish out and when you put a screen protector on it a bubble appears. Any ideas?
- chrome bezel. WOWOW didn't Samsung make it a separate element easy to replace...?? Has anyone done these successfully (first time, every time), or is there any way to make it look good? Other than hiding with a case which I have already done!
Thank you for all, any, or even no help.
H.
ihartley said:
Thank you for all, any, or even no help.
H.
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look at manuals and guides in My Android collections for your answers
If you're handy with a soldering iron and have a good one (not one of those fire-starting ones that plugs straight into the wall with a handle like five inches away from the tip) then the micro USB and button shouldn't be too tricky to replace. The button isn't that terribly important anyway depending on how you use your phone.
As far as the screen chip, I'd be tempted to use one of the screen protector methods using alcohol, perhaps the alcohol would fill the gap and stay there? Probably wouldn't work, but it might be worth a try.
I replaced the chrome bezel with a cheap, crappy gold one from china (and a gold battery cover) and it's totally pimp. The bezel is actually the very last piece in the phone though. You have to take EVERYTHING apart to get it out, it's a huge pain. I ended up slipping with a knife while I was doing it and cutting the vibrator off so I spent a few weeks waiting for the replacement touch button/vibrator/microphone board to come in.

Nexus 7 2012 fix touchscreen issues / grounding issue / ghost touches - HARDWARE FIX

OK, I have found the issue that causes the touchscreen ghost touches, unresponsive touchscreen, etc. This guide is short and simple, and is provided with NO WARRANTY, TO BE FOLLOWED AT YOUR OWN RISK. This guide requires that you open your device WHICH VOIDS THE WARRANTY. Those of us with the original grouper/WiFi/2012 version are well outside our warranties, so that really doesn't matter now.
To explain, our devices use (to my knowledge) an actively driven capacitive touchscreen sensor. It has been narrowed down that a significant number of devices suffer from a grounding issue where the voltage potentials between the case and screen will cause a number of touchscreen issues when the device is electrically insulated from the person touching the screen. There are many YouTube videos and guides on how to diagnose if your touchscreen has this issue; I will not detail those here. To be simple, if you set your device on an insulated surface like a wood table and touch the screen with ONE HAND while not touching the device with your other hand, the touchscreen will go ape**** on you.
For those of us suffering these issues, it can ruin the entire experience of the tablet. I have deduced through a logical process the location and cause of this issue, which I will detail in the guide below.
The nexus 7 uses a filmed metal back, which is mechanically grounded to the motherboard via two "blind" gold spring contacts on the motherboard which touch the filmed metal backing of the case back. I call these "blind" contacts because there is no corresponding electrical contact for them to sit upon, simply the material of the case itself is what they contact when the case is closed.
What you will do by following this guide, is physically break these tabs off the motherboard, thereby breaking the circuit of the faulty ground point. The reasons this is successful in resolving the touchscreen issue appear to be twofold; first the ground points wear off the filmed metal of the back QUICKLY due to flexion of the plastic case back and therefore end up forming a SECOND capacitor on the device case back. This causes electrical potential to build between the plastic case back and the device itself, causing unreliable reading and operation of the capacitive touchscreen. Second, the intermittent ground connection causes unreliable grounding of this capacitive potential, which is worse than no ground at all in the respect of a capacitive coupling of the case back and the device.
These issues could not and cannot be resolved by a firmware flash, because it is a physical problem. Asus could not resolve the issue completely, because even if all components involved are replaced the issue will arise again due to the way the device is constructed. It was simply a poor design.
So, to get to the meat and potatoes of the fix;
1.) Pop the back off your nexus 7. Locate and REMOVE THE BATTERY CONNECTOR to prevent any possibility of a short while you follow the rest of the guide.
2.) Locate the two blind gold spring pins on the bottom right corner as circled in red on my attached picture. Note how they do not have any corresponding connection on the case back as the WiFi GPS Bluetooth and NFC antennas do. This is because these points were meant to found the case back to prevent exactly the issues we are seeing. However due to poor design they have become the CAUSE of the issue.
3.) Most simple step: break BOTH connectors completely off the board by gently bending them back and forth until they snap cleanly off the board. There is no chance of trace damage when doing this - the solder is MUCH stronger than the super thin spring connectors and they will easily break cleanly at the solder joint. If you do not break BOTH off, the touchscreen will get WORSE because you have simply enhanced the ability of the case back to form a capacitive coupling with the case back. So break both, or do not bother.
4.) Replace the battery connector and case back, ensuring you do NOT damage any of the other fragile gold spring connections, if you do you will lose some of your antennas and these connectors are a pain in the ass to replace.
I have attached a picture that shows the two points that need broken off the board circled in RED.
That's it, you're done. Reboot the device and enjoy a touchscreen that actually ****ing works. You're welcome.
Again this guide is provided at your own risk, I am not responsible for anyone who breaks the wrong connector despite my detailed guide, and I am not responsible for any other damage your fat fingers might cause while dicking around inside a sensitive electronic device.
I understand if some are too squeamish to attempt this guide, but I respectfully request that those afraid to attempt do not bother ****ting up the thread with useless posts. Constructive comments are always welcomed.
If this works for you as it did for me (I.E. perfectly) please hit the THANKS button!
I'm also currently unemployed, so if I've helped you and you are better off than I am then donations to my google wallet account are HUGELY APPRECIATED!
Once confirmed, I would ask that the mods sticky this thread.
Post reserved for future use.
And the dumb ****s at Asus tech dept. of course couldn't figure this out. Never again will I give Asus a dollar for anything.
ChristianJay said:
And the dumb ****s at Asus tech dept. of course couldn't figure this out. Never again will I give Asus a dollar for anything.
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Even if they knew exactly what to do the company is not going to allow them to "damage" devices in order to fix them. That's how Asus would see it, as damage. It is against the original, albeit flawed, design.
fwayfarer said:
Even if they knew exactly what to do the company is not going to allow them to "damage" devices in order to fix them. That's how Asus would see it, as damage. It is against the original, albeit flawed, design.
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They don't do **** to fix anything, I sent them one, a 2012 N7 and they did absolutely nothing to remedy it, re-flashed the O/s or some such crap. I came up with a partial fix myself.
Just out of curiosity, have you done my fix and can you post confirmation so we can get the mods to sticky this thread?
As much as I'd love to get everyone's old n7 for dirt cheap when they think its "broken", I'd also like to see us snub Asus with our own permanent real fix as opposed to their bs runaround they pull until the warranty is up.
So please do confirm if possible.
fwayfarer said:
Just out of curiosity, have you done my fix and can you post confirmation so we can get the mods to sticky this thread?
As much as I'd love to get everyone's old n7 for dirt cheap when they think its "broken", I'd also like to see us snub Asus with our own permanent real fix as opposed to their bs runaround they pull until the warranty is up.
So please do confirm if possible.
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Hi, Just replaced a broken screen few days on it with a new one and got lots of ghost touches and non responsive spots.
So I tried your suggestion and it works for me , I took a less destructive approach and just put some tiny pieces of duct tape on the back cover where the connectors touch it instead of breaking them off.
My new screen is in place and working properly :good: .
Thanks.
yefet2000 said:
Hi, Just replaced a broken screen few days on it with a new one and got lots of ghost touches and non responsive spots.
So I tried your suggestion and it works for me , I took a less destructive approach and just put some tiny pieces of duct tape on the back cover where the connectors touch it instead of breaking them off.
My new screen is in place and working properly :good: .
Thanks.
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Mods please make this a sticky thread at your convenience, I believe this info will help a large number of N7 users, and it seems like according to the user above that it works when done in a non destructive way as well.
I ve had the same problem with my touch screen, it only happened when i connected the back cover of the nexus( i had a screen change)... so before i try to break the 2 pins i ve just put some electric isolation tape (plastic) and touch works like a charm.... thanks!!!
Be careful what kind of tape you use, some tape could make it worse.
You're welcome.
If anyone else has succeeded using this method or using tape, please post your results. I'm going to assume it hasn't harmed anyone or I'd have heard about it already.
Will attempt this tomorrow and confirm back. Using tape method.
Carried out the tape option, along with other additional fixes. Wipe cache, turn off animations, limit background processes to 3 and others. Seems to be working for me perfectly now.
fwayfarer said:
To explain, our devices use (to my knowledge) an actively driven capacitive touchscreen sensor. It has been narrowed down that a significant number of devices suffer from a grounding issue where the voltage potentials between the case and screen will cause a number of touchscreen issues when the device is electrically insulated from the person touching the screen. There are many YouTube videos and guides on how to diagnose if your touchscreen has this issue; I will not detail those here.
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Can someone please refer me to a YouTube video that shows how to diagnose if the touchscreen has this issue? Thanks.
It's so simple to type into google search "nexus 7 2012 touch screen problem video" you'll need to do it yourself.
Sorry.
Brilliant!
Finally I can now use my Nexus 7. At first I thought the erratic touches were due to the oil on the screen but upon replacing the screen protector, the erratic touches are still present.
Tried taping the contacts with a tape (A simple electrical tape would do), and much to my surprise, the device is usable now.
Also working for me, i just broke the pins. Much better now!
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk
Tested the tape/isolator option (less hardcode) in my "bad" N7 (the other works flawlessly and they were both bough day 1, maybe different revisions, not gonna open that one incase!), and the ghosting hits and touchscreen ignore problems seem to be completely gone.
Thanks a lot!!
Thanks so much for the fix, it's a new tablet now. I confirm this works by using isolator tape over the pins. Very easy fix, took me 2 mins to do it... would have liked to know about it sooner
Thanks, I already had managed to solve partially the problem placing an aluminium foil into the tablet (risky and complicated so didn't posted), but this is easier and WiFi reception is better too. Anyway it is not perfect yet, same problem than my solution: try crossing axis vertically or horizontally (only one hand, tablet on a table) and weird things happen like no touch detected, very fast touchs, etc... I will post here if I figure out something else.

[SOLUTION] SPen drawing in >specific< portions of the screen >without< touching.

[SOLUTION] SPen drawing in >specific< portions of the screen >without< touching.
Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
[Solution]
Since nobody gave a damn and I searched REALLY HARD for a solution. I will take one step forward and help anyone who maybe will have this problem in the future.
What you will need:
- Glue ( I recommend a Glue Stick, since it fixes good and can be easily removed.)
- Aluminum Foil
- Scissor
You will have to crop a little rectangle and test in which height of your SPen the foil will stop the problem.
In mine happened this way:
too close to the tip and the pen won't be detected
Too far from the tip and the problem remains.
In this position all functions work as intended. See photo.
Hit thanks if I helped you!
I did not want to use warranty because I will hate to wait weeks without a cellphone.
You can paint the foil for aesthetics purposes as I will manage to do better than I did
The cropped foil can be in the minimum size you achieve to make it work. Foil is very thin so there is no problems in inputting and removing from the slot.
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After several days I tried the pen without the foil stick and surprise ! It works as intended ! As I said eletromagnetism is tricky so you won't want the foil to be permanently glued to your pen.
TheReal V said:
Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
Please Help !
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Have you ever dropped the device?
Jammol said:
Have you ever dropped the device?
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Yes , but nothing that would cause severe damage. I always use my case and the problem started quite spontaneously.
And I don't think a fall damage would cause this problems in a perfectly squared portion of the screen
> I can use airviewing( in this square) in a uncommon distance (closer) what is a oxymoron because I write without touching in higher distances (WTH)
TheReal V said:
Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
[Solution]
Since nobody gave a damn and I searched REALLY HARD for a solution. I will take one step forward and help anyone who maybe will have this problem in the future.
What you will need:
- Glue ( I recommend a Glue Stick, since it fixes good and can be easily removed.)
- Aluminum Foil
- Scissor
You will have to crop a little rectangle and test in which height of your SPen the foil will stop the problem.
In mine happened this way:
too close to the tip and the pen won't be detected
Too far from the tip and the problem remains.
In this position all functions work as intended. See photo.
Hit thanks if I helped you!
I did not want to use warranty because I will hate to wait weeks without a cellphone.
You can paint the foil for aesthetics purposes as I will manage to do better than I did
The cropped foil can be in the minimum size you achieve to make it work. Foil is very thin so there is no problems in inputting and removing from the slot.
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Please change the beginning of your solution section. Comes off very condescending and people do give a damn. Considering that I posted a question to you about it at 130am my time, and people probably just didn't have anything to say as they might not have an idea as to why the issue was happening, or didn't get a chance to browse the forum as yet.
Good hack either way with the aluminum foil. Does it cause any issues with charging the method of the pen? Have you used to pen to depletion and then see if it charges after?
Jammol said:
Please change the beginning of your solution section. Comes off very condescending and people do give a damn. Considering that I posted a question to you about it at 130am my time, and people probably just didn't have anything to say as they might not have an idea as to why the issue was happening, or didn't get a chance to browse the forum as yet.
Good hack either way with the aluminum foil. Does it cause any issues with charging the method of the pen? Have you used to pen to depletion and then see if it charges after?
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Well, been using it for a few hours and I got no interference in bluetooth functions and neither in the recharging by induction. But what you said about recharging made me think that the smaller the foil crop... the better.
TheReal V said:
Well, been using it for a few hours and I got no interference in bluetooth functions and neither in the recharging by induction. But what you said about recharging made me think that the smaller the foil crop... the better.
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Nice. Have you thought of moving the hack into the pen? That'll be awesome to do and aid with aesthetics. I haven't gone to the point of taking one apart but it's probably just some 3m glue being used to hold the unit together.
Jammol said:
Nice. Have you thought of moving the hack into the pen? That'll be awesome to do and aid with aesthetics. I haven't gone to the point of taking one apart but it's probably just some 3m glue being used to hold the unit together.
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That is something to consider but I don't feel comfortable messing with the insides of SPen since it's so fragile and intend to be water resistant. Maybe if I had more knowledge about it's structure...
3M glue I can say is something you won't desire. I wouldn't stick something permanently in/on the Spen. Electromagnetism is kind of tricky so the solution today can be the problem tomorrow. So easy removal should be preferred.
I use Gnacad quite a bit and the best I've achieved so far is to put the floating icon in the trash can (long press it) that seems to tone down it's sensitivity but it is still sensitive to the temperature and wether the screen sensitivity setting is set to screen protector or not and of course if a screen protector is used which I no longer use (paid for the gorilla might as well enjoy it.!
Photo's[emoji2398] by Sully using SM-N960U or SM-870A
sullytrny said:
I use Gnacad quite a bit and the best I've achieved so far is to put the floating icon in the trash can (long press it) that seems to tone down it's sensitivity but it is still sensitive to the temperature and wether the screen sensitivity setting is set to screen protector or not and of course if a screen protector is used which I no longer use (paid for the gorilla might as well enjoy it.!
Photo's[emoji2398] by Sully using SM-N960U or SM-870A
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YES ! I just think exactly the same about the Gorilla Glass. I'm not paying for this and covering with some cheaper glass protector. I just take good care of my screen and it looks amazing !
Did you have this same ''drawing'' problem? Excuse my ignorance but... What is Gnacad?

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