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S-pen faulty?

Hi,
hope someone can help me?
I'm finding it difficult to use the button on the s-pen on my new note.
basically to get the back and menu functions to work i have to press way too hard on the button and apply a lot of pressure on the screen with the pen. Even then i sometimes have to swipe the pen 5 or more times before i get the correct response? Has anyone else had a similar experience or know a way to solve the issue before i return the note to amazon as faulty?
The pen works fine when not pressing the button.
Any advice is much appreciated
Thanks
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The back and menu buttons are not meant to be used with the pen, they are for fingers only.
This is a design flaw in my eyes, I use the pen quite often and find this to be quite annoying.

Nixchecker said:
The back and menu buttons are not meant to be used with the pen, they are for fingers only.
This is a design flaw in my eyes, I use the pen quite often and find this to be quite annoying.
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OP meant a different thing with the menu and back function:
I'm sure he meant the according gestures: button and swipe up for "menu", button and swipe left for "back"!
But you'r right, it's a design flaw that the hard-buttons cant be activated with the pen as well!
@OP:
what you experience is the manufacturing lottery of samsung! i owned a lot of notes so far, and besides that screen quality differs MASSIVE (see according threads) also the pressure sensitivity of s-pens differ a lot!
on some devices i had to press the pen really hard to the screen, on some it notices the pen before even touching the screen!
but i have good news as well: this is mostly pen dependent as i found out! you can try to disassemble your pen and re-position the coil (as it's the reason for the different sensitivity) in it, or try another pen!
edit: even if the pen works fine without button press, your problem is still the pen. pressing the button does nothing more as changing the response to the inductive field from the screen, either by adding some resistance or by shortening some wires of the coil

TML1504 said:
OP meant a different thing with the menu and back function:
I'm sure he meant the according gestures: button and swipe up for "menu", button and swipe left for "back"!
But you'r right, it's a design flaw that the hard-buttons cant be activated with the pen as well!
@OP:
what you experience is the manufacturing lottery of samsung! i owned a lot of notes so far, and besides that screen quality differs MASSIVE (see according threads) also the pressure sensitivity of s-pens differ a lot!
on some devices i had to press the pen really hard to the screen, on some it notices the pen before even touching the screen!
but i have good news as well: this is mostly pen dependent as i found out! you can try to disassemble your pen and re-position the coil (as it's the reason for the different sensitivity) in it, or try another pen!
edit: even if the pen works fine without button press, your problem is still the pen. pressing the button does nothing more as changing the response to the inductive field from the screen, either by adding some resistance or by shortening some wires of the coil
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If I'm reading you right, this means that any pen-issues are just the pen and that I shouldn't worry about the digitizer being defective on the phone, correct?

Hi tml, thanks for the insight.
You're right i did mean I'm having difficulty with the gesture behaviours when pressing the pen button and swiping to simulate the back and menu functions.
I think I've seen a post on how to disassemble the pen, but would be worried it will void the warranty. however as I'm in the uk, returning my note to Amazon.de (saved money buying from Germany) for the sake of the pen does seem a lot of hassle so i might give it a shot.
I Suppose i could also buy a spare pen off fleEbay and see if it makes a difference?
Cheers
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TML1504 said:
OP meant a different thing with the menu and back function:
I'm sure he meant the according gestures: button and swipe up for "menu", button and swipe left for "back"!
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Lol sorry, yes I misunderstood the OP.
I remembered me trying to use the hardbuttons with the pen when I first got the Note and saw him writing about pressing too hard and applying lots of pressure...
I rarely use the gestures since touching the buttons on the device is faster for me than looking at the pen in search for the button, pressing it and doing the gesture.
I got one of those new pens with the grey button so its quite easy to find it (compared to the old pens with black buttons) but being able to find it simply by touching the pen would be much better.
They should have changed not only the colour but the surface of the button too.

PoisonWolf said:
If I'm reading you right, this means that any pen-issues are just the pen and that I shouldn't worry about the digitizer being defective on the phone, correct?
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correct! as to my findings the differences are MOSTLY s-pen related, same s-pen on different device gives almost the same result! the differences could be explained by the calibration of the screen (although no user-calibration is available the screen IS calibrated in some way. you can notice that by turning the "auto rotate" on and off when the pen is misaligned, it will get better through that!) and the hardware differences. The second one I could observe in changing the pen!
@jimsey:
buy a s-pen holder at amazon. this is a holder PLUS a "standard" s-pen! mine from amazon had a grey button (as some other users reported that new batches of the phone come with grey ones) and worked much better than the one which came with the phone!
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Nixchecker said:
They should have changed not only the colour but the surface of the button too.
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take a razor-blade and make some "lines" on the button! for me this does the trick!

Can't reach the Power button - any other way to wake screen?

Loving my HTC One, but I have such small hands that I can hardly reach the Power button to wake it up after it goes to sleep!
Does anyone know of an app where I can use the Volume button instead?
Thanks in advance.

Only way to possibly assign the sleep/wake function to the volume buttons would mean having to be rooted. I don't know if anyone's made that change yet though, it might just require editing a single file. Don't have any experience with This myself so not 100%. Just know it requires root.
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After a quick search online I've discovered Auto Screen On in the Play Store, which lets me double tap the proximity sensor (left of top speaker) to wake it up.
Works perfectly but an app using the Volume button would be much better.

With this app your screen has to be awake all the time and will drain your battery i think.
On TrickDroid v2.0.0 u can choose VolWake in Aroma
LG, Helmut

Moved your thread to the proper section for you. Please remember to post only in the correct sections. Thanks.

I've heard of some app for a nexus 4 that allows you to just swipe the screen and it turns on. Not sure what it was called, but you get the concept.

Good job I have big hands really because this nor generally using the phone is an issue due to its size.
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I'm assuming sweep2wake or swipe2wake will eventually be implemented. It's basically swiping left to right on the capacitive buttons to wake the phone.
The One X had it, but it was a bit buggy when I used it in terms of it not working if the phone was asleep for a long time. I got rid of my One X a while ago though so idk how the feature works now and if they figured it all out., but I expect it to get implemented on the HTC One eventually.
The proximity sensor isn't a bad idea, jailbroken iPhone 5 etc...have the always on proximity where if you cover the proximity it'll turn the screen off and eventually lock the phone after a while. So you can put it in your pocket and it will turn the display off, bring it out of pocket and it comes on without needing to slide to unlock or anything. It's good if your messaging constantly.

pewpewbangbang said:
I'm assuming sweep2wake or swipe2wake will eventually be implemented. It's basically swiping left to right on the capacitive buttons to wake the phone.
The One X had it, but it was a bit buggy when I used it in terms of it not working if the phone was asleep for a long time. I got rid of my One X a while ago though so idk how the feature works now and if they figured it all out., but I expect it to get implemented on the HTC One eventually.
The proximity sensor isn't a bad idea, jailbroken iPhone 5 etc...have the always on proximity where if you cover the proximity it'll turn the screen off and eventually lock the phone after a while. So you can put it in your pocket and it will turn the display off, bring it out of pocket and it comes on without needing to slide to unlock or anything. It's good if your messaging constantly.
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iirc showp1984 said he's getting a htc one, and see oz did too so hopefully one of them will bring sweep to wake Zarboz did an excellent job on the incredible s and he doesn't even have the device
Sweep to wake generally doesn't work sometimes in deep sleep. I use vol wake and the. Sweep to go to sleep on my incredible s now s2w is actually the greatest thing ever
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Button-less Wake!

The main defect with the Note 3 is that it requires a button-press to wake-up.
Let this thread be a collective bounty of alternative solutions until we can Slide2Wake which requires kernal changes and AT&T to unlock the bootloader.
Sign this petition in the meantime while you read on:
http://www.change.org/petitions/at-t-unlock-our-samsung-galaxy-note-3-bootloader
Working solutions:
-Use a proximity sensor app (very hit and miss) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omd.autoscreenon&hl=en)
-Use the S View cover (also hit and miss and unpreferred by many)
Any other solutions please add!

Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on

RErick said:
Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
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You're right. It's a considerable battery drain. The surprising thing is.. in the end, the smoothness of button-free operation becomes *worth it* IMHO.
I turn my phone on and off a lot to check stuff. I'll look at my to do list then press the corner SwipePad shortcut to turn it off. Then I'll remember something while moving up a bit in the line and **without even looking down for a button** and half-entranced in contemplation still I'll swipe from one side of the phone to halfway to the other and it is ON by the split second both my hands hold it to to make a note or reminder, look up something, etc. after which i'll immediately press the corner shortcut again to turn it off and my phone stays in one hand while I people-watch.
For some reason this is much more relaxed and makes me feel like the phone is like a second brain where I don't even need to create mnemonic devices called loci as much like I used to.
Maybe that's what's making my memory kind of crappy. Maybe should go back to doing that for my to-do lists. Might improve my memory. ANYWAY. my point is:
(1) it's less mechanical effort to swipe and
(2) I like to save my buttons and don't want to eventually have to replace the home button on the Note 3 for like $50 or whatever.
I guess it's not that big a deal.
If I did have that feature though I wouldn't miss anything else from past phones especially since the Note 3 is big enough to fit in one hand BARELY and could do a HALF-swipe to wake feature.
**pretends to do it now**
I'm crazy.

I would like a solution to this as well. Tried the light sensor app but that wasnt working well. Really wish we had tap-on.
I really like not hitting any physical buttons because this phone is huge and unwieldy. Still love it though.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spazedog.xposed.additionsgb
I assigned the power button to holding down the back button. That saves a little bit of button-life.
The app also is designed to support the same while the screen is off... but it doesn't seem to work yet.
Would be super awesome though to be able to turn the screen off and on while the back button is held. Just not there yet.
Screen on with swipe is the next best.. though much more battery intensive.

Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.

Solarenemy68 said:
Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Congratulations Captain Obvious. You are the first person to ever think of that!
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Read above about my experience with button-less waking in the SGS2.
Besides that, you're wrong, my thumb is actually closer to the screen than the power button when I am holding it.
And it's no effort at all. That's the whole point. It's the same slide necessary in receiving a call. No physical PUSHING required.
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
Anyway please only write in this thread if you have something that will contribute to the idea of "button-less wake"
I'm only looking for creating solutions to that.

megamorphg said:
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
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Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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Roundtableprez said:
Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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I'm talking about my SGS2 (last phone).
If Note 3 has a button-less wake feature then can close this.
I think that won't happen till ATT lifts the lock tho..

Best buttonless Wake Achieved
S View cover
P.s.: for those who prefer a different case: just wait till bootloader is unlocked > kernel unlocked > slide function can be made.
thread closed.

Does your Note 9 on One UI have double tap to wake?

I'm still on a Tmobile Note 8 and just got the One UI update today and was so disappointed to find that it doesn't have the 'double tap to wake' feature. I always thought this update would bring this feature. As I walked into a Tmobile store couple weeks ago and confirmed this feature was on a S10 so I thought this update would do it. Anyway, just wanted to know if any of you Note 9 owners who have the One UI update have this feature? if so, that would be awesome, and will get a Note 9 soon; if not, hmmm don't know, will just keep using my Note 8, thanks!!

slamming_sammy1 said:
I'm still on a Tmobile Note 8 and just got the One UI update today and was so disappointed to find that it doesn't have the 'double tap to wake' feature. I always thought this update would bring this feature. As I walked into a Tmobile store couple weeks ago and confirmed this feature was on a S10 so I thought this update would do it. Anyway, just wanted to know if any of you Note 9 owners who have the One UI update have this feature? if so, that would be awesome, and will get a Note 9 soon; if not, hmmm don't know, will just keep using my Note 8, thanks!!
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Double tap to wake always on screen display works.
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sorry, I meant 'double tap to wake' screen, not always on display. this already works on my Note 8

Nope, d2tw is only on s10 series (that doesn't have the virtual key feature)

marcovittori said:
Nope, d2tw is only on s10 series (that doesn't have the virtual key feature)
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ok thanks for the info! darn. ahhhh!!

Honest question, why would you need that when there's the soft, pressure-sensitive home button? Doesn't it do the same thing, with one less tap?

because when I'm driving, I could easily wake it up by tapping anywhere on the screen. it's not that simple finding the home screen button when you are driving now that there's no hardware button. I know I shouldn't be touching the phone at all but at times there's still a need to. sure, I can unlock it with google and do some things (and bixby I think but haven't try it yet), but it's not the same as google is waiting for me to tell it to do something.

slamming_sammy1 said:
because when I'm driving, I could easily wake it up by tapping anywhere on the screen. it's not that simple finding the home screen button when you are driving now that there's no hardware button. I know I shouldn't be touching the phone at all but at times there's still a need to. sure, I can unlock it with google and do some things (and bixby I think but haven't try it yet), but it's not the same as google is waiting for me to tell it to do something.
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I bet a front facing FP comes in handy when driving and phone is on a mount.
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marcovittori said:
Nope, d2tw is only on s10 series (that doesn't have the virtual key feature)
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Limeybastard said:
I bet a front facing FP comes in handy when driving and phone is on a mount.
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what's a FP ?

slamming_sammy1 said:
what's a FP ?
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Finger Print sensor.
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Limeybastard said:
Finger Print sensor.
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do these usually work by pressing anywhere on the screen, or needs to press in a certain section of the screen?

slamming_sammy1 said:
because when I'm driving, I could easily wake it up by tapping anywhere on the screen. it's not that simple finding the home screen button when you are driving now that there's no hardware button. I know I shouldn't be touching the phone at all but at times there's still a need to. sure, I can unlock it with google and do some things (and bixby I think but haven't try it yet), but it's not the same as google is waiting for me to tell it to do something.
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I see. I personally don't think it's tricky to press on the soft home button while driving (it's not that fussy about where you tap), but I use Android Auto while driving so my screen is always on anyway.

Guys, please don't use your phones while you drive.?

djbutter said:
Honest question, why would you need that when there's the soft, pressure-sensitive home button? Doesn't it do the same thing, with one less tap?
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OP, you could try decreasing sensitivity of the button. Feels just like tapping plus having a dedicated area.
I'd your use case is while driving, a recommend turning on 'Skip Lock Screen' and adding your car's Bluetooth to trusted devices. This way, you need only a tap on the button and you can go directly to the home screen surpassing your lock screen and the need to scan fingerprint.
Also, did you know you can double tap any notification to wake screen. Enabling 'Skip Lock Screen' as mentioned above will route you to the app directly when you double tap it.
Hope this helps.
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Coming from a OnePlus 3T, I do miss DT2W as well. Sitting in a meeting, in a bus, on a plane or in the car - you never have to "search for the right spot", you can just tap on the (dark) screen in order to wake it up.
I really miss it. Once you get used to it, you´re lost.

Hi. There is Fast Wake (not sure about translation, i have another language) by Double Tap options in Accessiblility menu.

slamming_sammy1 said:
I'm still on a Tmobile Note 8 and just got the One UI update today and was so disappointed to find that it doesn't have the 'double tap to wake' feature. I always thought this update would bring this feature. As I walked into a Tmobile store couple weeks ago and confirmed this feature was on a S10 so I thought this update would do it. Anyway, just wanted to know if any of you Note 9 owners who have the One UI update have this feature? if so, that would be awesome, and will get a Note 9 soon; if not, hmmm don't know, will just keep using my Note 8, thanks!!
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Double Tap on Playstore works perfectly.
No ads, no internet connecting and almost no battery consumption.
Double Tap Off - Apps on Google Play
Double Tap on Home Screen to turn off the screen.Work with fingerprint & MIUI
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Single tap display to wake

Is there any possible way to wake the display of our beloved K20 Pro by single tapping on it (just like iPhone X)?
I would like to hear your opinion...

David, stop. I told you, go buy an iPhone, you wouldn't listen.
???
Ok, seriously now, it's certainly not impossible, but it would be too much work. Since it's an AMOLED, you could just keep the screen black and detect touch but that would drain your battery quick. Even if you got a custom kernel with support for this feature, you'd still up with a lot of accidental wake ups, so you'd have to find a way to detect when the phone should be woken up.
I'd be more interested in the raise to wake feature! An extra tap isn't that hard, but no taps is even better! And I'm pretty sure there's a way to do that with ambient display.
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Paranoid Android on Mi 9 has single tap to wake support!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/development/paranoid-android-pie-beta-xiaomi-mi-9-t3955522
Hopefully this could be ported over.

chrismin13 said:
David, stop. I told you, go buy an iPhone, you wouldn't listen.
Ok, seriously now, it's certainly not impossible, but it would be too much work. Since it's an AMOLED, you could just keep the screen black and detect touch but that would drain your battery quick. Even if you got a custom kernel with support for this feature, you'd still up with a lot of accidental wake ups, so you'd have to find a way to detect when the phone should be woken up.
I'd be more interested in the raise to wake feature! An extra tap isn't that hard, but no taps is even better! And I'm pretty sure there's a way to do that with ambient display.
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Paranoid Android on Mi 9 has single tap to wake support!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/development/paranoid-android-pie-beta-xiaomi-mi-9-t3955522
Hopefully this could be ported over.
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All right all right, I never said I liked iPhones... There has been a misunderstanding my dear friend! What I meant is that I liked one of their features which happens to be supported by TWRP (you know when the screen turns off after a the time of period and then surprisingly you single tap the display to wake it).
As for the AMOLED display you were talking about, I see that Mi 9 has also an AMOLED display panel... So how is that possible then?

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All right all right, I never said I liked iPhones... There has been a misunderstanding my dear friend! What I meant is that I liked one of their features which happens to be supported by TWRP (you know when the screen turns off after a the time of period and then surprisingly you single tap the display to wake it).
As for the AMOLED display you were talking about, I see that Mi 9 has also an AMOLED display panel... So how is that possible then?
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TWRP doesn't turn on with a single tap on all phones, on my S7 I need to press a button and on the LG G2 I need to double tap. I don't know if there's a way to test battery drain and see if this would be a good idea after all.

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TWRP doesn't turn on with a single tap on all phones, on my S7 I need to press a button and on the LG G2 I need to double tap. I don't know if there's a way to test battery drain and see if this would be a good idea after all.
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All right then, I don't know for sure but my Redmi Note 4X having an LCD panel and also my previous P8 Lite had that feature on!

chrismin13 said:
TWRP doesn't turn on with a single tap on all phones, on my S7 I need to press a button and on the LG G2 I need to double tap. I don't know if there's a way to test battery drain and see if this would be a good idea after all.
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Same in my experience, it requires a physical button first and then a tap or swipe to the right to unlock the lock screen.

plskillme said:
Same in my experience, it requires a physical button first and then a tap or swipe to the right to unlock the lock screen.
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Does this happen on your K20 Pro having a TWRP?

plskillme said:
Same in my experience, it requires a physical button first and then a tap or swipe to the right to unlock the lock screen.
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Got Zenfone Selfie with AMOLED, all you need is double tap. Same on iPhone X, also AMOLED and single tap is enough... it has nothing to do with AMOLED or battery drain, that's just guessing... lolz