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Any inside info on the Mi Mix 2

Hi. I probably would have bought the Mi Mix but decided on the Huawei Mate 9 because it has more LTE bands that work in US (e.g. although the Mix has band 4 it is missing band 12 that would improve LTE service for tmobile) and there were enough complaints about the Mix's camera to scare me away. Indeed the Mate 9 is a good device overall but I do like the bigger screen on the Mi Mix and there appears to have been a little more development on the Mi MIx. Probably cause the Mix uses the Snapdragon chip while Hauwei has its home grown Kerin. Anyways, to cut to the quick. Has there been any interesting information released about the Mi Mix 2 as I may consider it when released (in the fall?). In particular will the camera be significantly improved and will it improve its LTE capacity among other things. Thanks!

The Mix has been a much better device for me than the Mate 9 was when I had it. The Mate 9 felt like more of the same old design idea just slightly bigger. Camera focused device that ran reasonably well, the Mix has everything but camera focused design and so fits me better. There's really no comparing the screens or screen realestate ... in addition the difference between Emui [more or less a clone of Miui] are striking not the least of which theme control and various other personal controls.
Bands wise band 12 is more of a support band not a main one, my device has worked on LTE the whole time I've had it [anywhere T-Mobile had LTE for the Mate 9]. No idea on the Mix 2 but i am not seeing a compelling reason to buy it over the Mix itself when it does come out.

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Hi. I probably would have bought the Mi Mix but decided on the Huawei Mate 9 because it has more LTE bands that work in US (e.g. although the Mix has band 4 it is missing band 12 that would improve LTE service for tmobile) and there were enough complaints about the Mix's camera to scare me away. Indeed the Mate 9 is a good device overall but I do like the bigger screen on the Mi Mix and there appears to have been a little more development on the Mi MIx. Probably cause the Mix uses the Snapdragon chip while Hauwei has its home grown Kerin. Anyways, to cut to the quick. Has there been any interesting information released about the Mi Mix 2 as I may consider it when released (in the fall?). In particular will the camera be significantly improved and will it improve its LTE capacity among other things. Thanks!
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The mix does not have a bigger screen than mate 9 due to their screen ratio. The mate 9 have a considerable larger screen area with a better camera.
If you're in for custom rom, etc go for xiaomi but if you're someone that doesn't tinker with roms and just need a good daily driver with good camera then a Huawei mate 9 is good for that.

Nicolfa said:
The Mix has been a much better device for me than the Mate 9 was when I had it. The Mate 9 felt like more of the same old design idea just slightly bigger. Camera focused device that ran reasonably well, the Mix has everything but camera focused design and so fits me better. There's really no comparing the screens or screen realestate ... in addition the difference between Emui [more or less a clone of Miui] are striking not the least of which theme control and various other personal controls.
Bands wise band 12 is more of a support band not a main one, my device has worked on LTE the whole time I've had it [anywhere T-Mobile had LTE for the Mate 9]. No idea on the Mix 2 but i am not seeing a compelling reason to buy it over the Mix itself when it does come out.
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Appreciate your thoughts here. I think Band 12 can be helpful for inside building reception. Many people at my job complain cause their indoor reception is poor while mine is quite good. It always comes down to the person has a different carrier that does not support Band 12. Also camera is very important to me. Unfortunately I did not have a Mi Mix to test for myself so I basically had to go by reviews which more or less said that Mix's camera was it's weak point. I may still get a Mi Mix as the price is down to about $600. Just seeing how things play out. The other phone I might get in the fall is the Note 8.
Leechoonhwee said:
The mix does not have a bigger screen than mate 9 due to their screen ratio. The mate 9 have a considerable larger screen area with a better camera.
If you're in for custom rom, etc go for xiaomi but if you're someone that doesn't tinker with roms and just need a good daily driver with good camera then a Huawei mate 9 is good for that.
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Hi. I do not understand how you conclude that the Mate 9 has a bigger screen. The Mate 9 screen ratio is 16:9 and the Mi Mix is 17:9. The diagonal is 5.9" on Mate 9 and 6.4" on Mi Mix. Assuming I did the math right, that implies that the Mate 9 area in square inches is about 14.9 and the Mi Mix is about 16.9. Please check the width and height of the Mi Mix screen. My estimate is that it is about 2.99 inches wide and about 5.656 inches high. Could someone confirm? Thanks!
EDIT: The only news/rumours I've heard is that the Mix Mix 2 will have a 18:9 screen ratio, the sound is improved using new piezoelectric based technology, and Snapdragon 835 (not surprising)...

mscion said:
Hi. I do not understand how you conclude that the Mate 9 has a bigger screen. The Mate 9 screen ratio is 16:9 and the Mi Mix is 17.9. The diagonal is 5.9" on Mate 9 and 6.4" on Mi Mix. Assuming I did the math right that implies that the Mate 9 area in square inches is about 14.9 and the Mi Mix is about 16.9. Please check the width and height of the Mi Mix screen. My estimate is that it about 2.99 inches wide and about 5.656 inches high. Could someone confirm? Thanks!
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I measured the screen and came up with about 2.28 x 4.2.

Leechoonhwee said:
I measured the screen and came up with about 2.28 x 4.2.
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Thanks for your input but I think you have made a mistake in your measurement or you are measuring the wrong phone. According to the Pythagorean theorem a width of 2.28 and height of 4.2 (all in inches) would give you a diagonal of less than 4.8 inches! The specs for this phone say the diagonal should be 6.4 inches...

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Thanks for your input but I think you have made a mistake in your measurement or you are measuring the wrong phone. According to the Pythagorean theorem a width of 2.28 and height of 4.2 (all in inches) would give you a diagonal of less than 4.8 inches! The specs for this phone say the diagonal should be 6.4 inches...
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OMG I think i really have a bad measuring tape it was about 5.68 x 2.95
I think you are right about the total area!
16:9 ratio using a2+b2+c2
16 x 16 + 9 x 9 = 337
√337 = 18.36
5.9inch = 149.86mm (Mate 9 diagonal screen size)
149.86/18.36 = 8.16
16 x 8.16 = 130.56
9 x 8.16 = 73.44
Total area = 130.56 x 73.44 = 9588.33mm2 or 95.88cm2
17:9 ratio using a2+b2+c2
17 x 17 + 9 x 9 = 370=c2
√370 = 19.23
6.4inch = 162.56mm (Mi Mix diagonal screen size)
162.56/19.23 = 8.45
17 x 8.45 = 143.65
9 x 8.45 = 76.05
Total area = 143.65 x 76.05 = 10924.58mm2 or 109.25cm2

Leechoonhwee said:
OMG I think i really have a bad measuring tape it was about 5.68 x 2.95
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lol. Thanks, that seems about right. It's a little wider than my Mate 9 but a bit taller (Mate 9 is a little less than 5.25 inches). Looks like the Mi Mix is about the same width as my Note Edge. I hope when Xiaomi makes the Mi Mix 2, with presumably the 18:9 ratio, they do not sacrifice the width. I really like the wider screen when reading.
EDIT: Just saw your additional calculations. They pretty much match mine given round off error. Good job!

On band 12, I get the same level of reception as the Samsung Edge 7 my wife has in the same places, not sure how much band 12 actually helps in most areas :0

Nicolfa said:
On band 12, I get the same level of reception as the Samsung Edge 7 my wife has in the same places, not sure how much band 12 actually helps in most areas :0
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Interesting. (I'm assuming your are on Tmobile). As I understand it, tmobile has bands 2, 4, and 12 for LTE (maybe HSPA+ and others). So you could both be using 2 or 4 which the Mi Mix has.. Certainly the Samsung Edge 7 should work fine with all of tmobile's LTE bands (or indeed at&t). Band 12 was introduced to our area a couple of years ago. When they turned it on I could get data in my building. I couldn't before. In fact, several years back, the windows were replaced in all our buildings. The windows were supposed to be energy efficient and blocked some radiation out to reduce energy costs. As it turned out, for many folks, they also blocked out phone signals as well including mine. But once Tmobile turned on band 12 (700mhz) I could get data again.

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Interesting. (I'm assuming your are on Tmobile). As I understand it, tmobile has bands 2, 4, and 12 for LTE (maybe HSPA+ and others). So you could both be using 2 or 4 which the Mi Mix has.. Certainly the Samsung Edge 7 should work fine with all of tmobile's LTE bands (or indeed at&t). Band 12 was introduced to our area a couple of years ago. When they turned it on I could get data in my building. I couldn't before. In fact, several years back, the windows were replaced in all our buildings. The windows were supposed to be energy efficient and blocked some radiation out to reduce energy costs. As it turned out, for many folks, they also blocked out phone signals as well including mine. But once Tmobile turned on band 12 (700mhz) I could get data again.
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I'm using my Mi Mix in the UK with EE Network, always top signal 5/5. Wi-fi amazingly fast, 4g coverage also great.

kanej2006 said:
I'm using my Mi Mix in the UK with EE Network, always top signal 5/5. Wi-fi amazingly fast, 4g coverage also great.
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Sounds great! I'm pretty sure using the phone in the greater Washington area would be fine. Just a little concerned about its use indoors at my job. My employer provides wifi at work but I'm a little wary of using it.

mscion said:
Sounds great! I'm pretty sure using the phone in the greater Washington area would be fine. Just a little concerned about its use indoors at my job. My employer provides wifi at work but I'm a little wary of using it.
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Hmmm, if other colleagues are having good reception then so should you. Compared to my previous LG V10, the Mi Mix has much better reception, far better then expected...

kanej2006 said:
Hmmm, if other colleagues are having good reception then so should you. Compared to my previous LG V10, the Mi Mix has much better reception, far better then expected...
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Well, I don't think it is quite that simple as it depends on carrier's band. I just looked up EE's LTE bands and you are probably using Band 3 at 1800MHz and/or Band 38 at 2600MHz. Neither are used in US.. LTE on Tmobile is bands 2, 4 and 12 (the primary bands are 4 and 12) and AT&T is 2, 4, 5, 17 (17 is the primary LTE band) so you are probably in good shape with Tmobile and maybe ok with AT&T although not sure. Bands 12 and 13 are at 700MHz and, as I understand, do best in buildings. Neither of them are on the Mi Mix but, fortunately, bands 2 and 4 are. So I think I will be ok and am looking into buying Mi Mix if price is right.

mscion said:
Interesting. (I'm assuming your are on Tmobile). As I understand it, tmobile has bands 2, 4, and 12 for LTE (maybe HSPA+ and others). So you could both be using 2 or 4 which the Mi Mix has.. Certainly the Samsung Edge 7 should work fine with all of tmobile's LTE bands (or indeed at&t). Band 12 was introduced to our area a couple of years ago. When they turned it on I could get data in my building. I couldn't before. In fact, several years back, the windows were replaced in all our buildings. The windows were supposed to be energy efficient and blocked some radiation out to reduce energy costs. As it turned out, for many folks, they also blocked out phone signals as well including mine. But once Tmobile turned on band 12 (700mhz) I could get data again.
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Yeah band 12 is an assist band, better building /object penetration aspects. In our case the buildings we work in kill just about all band penetration in the center of the structure and some more hardened areas of the building. This includes almost all carriers. With that said out side those kinds of areas I haven't found band 12 to be the deal breaker for non US model phones. Been using T-Mobile for close on 10 years now, and it works perfectly with the Mix.

mscion said:
Well, I don't think it is quite that simple as it depends on carrier's band. I just looked up EE's LTE bands and you are probably using Band 3 at 1800MHz and/or Band 38 at 2600MHz. Neither are used in US.. LTE on Tmobile is bands 2, 4 and 12 (the primary bands are 4 and 12) and AT&T is 2, 4, 5, 17 (17 is the primary LTE band) so you are probably in good shape with Tmobile and maybe ok with AT&T although not sure. Bands 12 and 13 are at 700MHz and, as I understand, do best in buildings. Neither of them are on the Mi Mix but, fortunately, bands 2 and 4 are. So I think I will be ok and am looking into buying Mi Mix if price is right.
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You were right bro. EE use Band 3-1800MHz & Band 7-2600MHz. Excellent coverage for me both indoors and out.

When will Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 be released?

Why are you guys so eager with Mix 2??? First one's awesome and just a few months old, come on...

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Why are you guys so eager with Mix 2??? First one's awesome and just a few months old, come on...
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I'm not really interested in the Mi Mix 2. And even if I purchase one, it'll be after 4-6 months after release for price drop.
Only just had my Mi Mix for 3 days. Got upto 7 hours Screen On Time so far. Not bad since it was only charged twice. After several more charges, I'll aim for 8-10 hours.
Once the Mi Mix 2 is released it'll be just barely better, perhaps not even worth upgrading to.
It'll have the Snapdragon 835, slightly better camera and 2% or so even better screen to body ratio. Very minor differences.
There are rumours it may have an AMOLED screen. Should this be the case then I'm not interested.
In the past I've had Samsung phones with Amoled and really hated it. At extreme angles the colours are washed out, that ugly yellow and blue tint and the whites are yellowish not to mention I've had dead pixels in almost every phone having Amoled.

Yeah, it would really be a ****er if they go for Amoled...

P30 pro and p30 has dual gps, someone tested gps accuracy?

P30 pro and p30 has dual gps, someone tested gps accuracy?

Will test it tomorrow, P30 pro.

Accuracy is fine.
But not as many satalites visable and/or usable as the Oneplus 6t has. (P30 is accuracy of 12m where the 6t has 4,2m)

Good news.
Emui 9.1 with huawei p30 pro.
Has full dual gps-l1 and l5 support.
Gpstest already detects l5.

Oppo Reno 10x hybrid zoom version uses dual-frequency GPS.
Today, OPPO’s Vice President, Shen Yiren, discussed a few details about the OPPO Reno series. Shen Yiren said on Weibo: “The 10x hybrid zoom version uses dual-frequency GPS.” The dual-frequency GPS function provides more accurate positioning. Another Chinese manufacturer, Xiaomi, was the first to apply the technology to mobile phones. The Xiaomi Mi 8 supports L1+L5 dual-frequency positioning and its accuracy is at least 3-5 times better. It is more resistant to multipath and reflected signals in urban scenes and has higher immunity to interference.
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/04/04/oppo-reno-10x-hybrid-zoom-version-uses-dual-frequency-gps/

ALT(msl) is not correct on P30 Pro latest firmware 9.1.0.124

I have seen accuracy shown as 4m with GPS Test app in one of YouTube reviews.

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I have seen accuracy shown as 4m with GPS Test app in one of YouTube reviews.
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I see 4m using GPS Benchmark.

4m is ok but maybe Dual GPS can do better...
Altitude is ok, but Altitude (msl) is wrong!!!
Huawei need to perform calculator geoide to get the right Altitude (msl).
Samsung, LG and Xiaomi show The right Altitude(msl) , Huawei no.
Go near The Sea and show 40meter Altitude(msl) ....

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I see 4m using GPS Benchmark.
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So it's the same soup ...
4m sometimes isn't enough...
Is there a chances that will be unlocked through a firmware update soon?

I see 4m on my old Galaxy S8+ can we actually get better with a non-military GPS?

Anyone can test Altitude ALT(msl) accuracy?

Good GPS is important when doing 80 MPH on the freeway

Mine is very accurate omg the P30 Pro

Once upon a time 1 guy had 2 choose between waking up the beauty or escape 4 freedom

Hi everybody,
Sorry for the strange thread title, it was just a joke...
I'm struggling to get a new phone and i need your opinion...
I've just sold my oneplus 6T. I'll list my requirements and some phone
I found and if you like you could give me some suggestions...
I use the phone mainly to internet, mail, and socials, but very often
I travel for my job spending many hours in the airport and i don't want
A tablet, so i need a big screen, at least 6.4 but 6.6 is better, jack audio 3.5mm,
Possibly a sd card slot but i can leave it.
A good multimedia specs (screen refresh rate, audio dts) to see movies on netflix, amazon video and so on.
A good camera, possibly two, with wide angle.
Very big battery.
And i'd like to get a snapdragon 855 to play games and emulators.
Googling i found:
Asus zenfone 6z wonderful camera, all around features smartphone but lcd screen and no availability
Mi 9 T Pro (Redmi K20 Pro), but i need to wait the international version because the Asian one (K20 pro) misses band 20, and in my country (Italy) is wide used.
Nubia red magic 3 beautiful phone very customizable, but i'm not sure about single camera quality, and it misses NFC.
Huawei Mate 20 X has evrything i need more a huge 7.2" display, but works with emui and kirin cpu....
I would stay away from oneplus because they are not anymore the killer they were...Last thing, my budget is around € 500...
Thanks everybody for your help! Ciao.

Versus

Why should I buy this phone over the pixel 3,oneplus 7 Pro or oneplus 7t?

OP7 Pro would be a great choice. 90Hz display, UFS 3.0 and the most important one is the richest development community vs the other two. But be aware of that there is some reports of defected units.

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Why should I buy this phone over the pixel 3,oneplus 7 Pro or oneplus 7t?
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Those phones have:
- Wireless charging (Pixel 3)
- 90Hz Display (Oneplus)
- UFS 3.0 (Oneplus)
- Fast near-stock android updates (OxygenOS updates really quickly and is beautiful, stock android is great as always)
- Minorly better cameras (Oneplus)
K20 pro / Mi 9T Pro has:
- Significantly cheaper price (just over half, in some cases)
- Wireless charging can be resolved with an extension
- Display refresh rate can be resolved with rooting android P (Q only goes to 72Hz right now, but 90Hz support coming soon)
- UFS 3 is disadvantage, but not by much!
- MIUI: MIUI11 is amazing, 10 isn't bad, and the phone can easily be rooted to resolve these
- HEADPHONE JACK!!
- Full screen display!
All phones have:
- Fantastic cameras
- Google Camera App support (powerhouse behind Pixel 3's cameras)
- Beautiful displays, even if refresh rates aren't equal
- Snappy processors and fantastic speed (You won't notice lag)
- Long-term OS support
- Large communities (varying levels of support)
All in all: If you have the money, I'd definitely suggest going for the Oneplus 7 Pro, 7T, or 7T Pro
But if you're looking for a phone giving you the best value for money with a headphone jack? I'd definitely suggest going with the Mi 9T pro.
I couldn't wish for anything more (Except a micro-sd card slot, but that ain't there on the oneplus phones either)

After looking into it some more I don't think the limited frequencies/bands are going to cut it with the Mi 9T pro. I'm in the US and using AT&T, as of right now the bands are adequate with the towers I use however my research shows AT&T is actively implementing band 66 for LTE and I like to keep my phones for 4 years or so. I'm coming from a OnePlus 2 so I need to future-proof somewhat if possible.

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After looking into it some more I don't think the limited frequencies/bands are going to cut it with the Mi 9T pro. I'm in the US and using AT&T, as of right now the bands are adequate with the towers I use however my research shows AT&T is actively implementing band 66 for LTE and I like to keep my phones for 4 years or so. I'm coming from a OnePlus 2 so I need to future-proof somewhat if possible.
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Fair enough. I use T-Mobile (Technically, Ting, which runs on T-Mobile) so 2/3 of the primary bands (2 and 4) are secure, only missing band 12.

What's your opinion: Mi 8 vs Mi 9 Lite?

Hey guys!
I hope I'm in the right place to post/ask this. But I honestly don't know any better place to go to.
At the moment I am to decide between the Mi 8 (6/64GB) for 170 € and the Mi 9 Lite (6/128 GB) for 200 €.
I already ordered, received and set up the Mi8 and the good price for the Mi 9 Lite just appeared recently.
The Mi 8 definitely has a better performance due to the SD845 (vs SD710) and has WiFi MiMO, an OIS, as well as apt-X and costs 30 € less (at least for me). Likely due to its release date there also are way more ROMs and Mods available for the Mi8 already.
Mi 9 Lite on the other hand supports LTE Band28 (which will become more and more important in Germany), has better camera sensors, a bigger battery, an infrared blaster, SD card support, a drop notch, an audio jack and, well, in-screen fingerprint (which I guess is nice but not that important) and it was released about 1 year later which could lead to longer software support.
So there's very much points arguing for the Mi 9 Lite. But:
Does the premium SoC of the Mi 8 guarantee more updates over time then the Mi 9 lite?
Is the camera of the Mi 9 Lite really better than on the Mi 8 as OIS is missing?
Is the in-screen fingerprint more imprecise than fingerprint on the back?
Could apt-X also be applied to the Mi 9 Lite? (one day I read about it being implemented in LOS by default)
Thanks in advance for your help and opinions on this question.
Kind Regards,
Seyron

Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)

k3lcior said:
Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)
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Thank you very much for your fast answer!
Referring to this post the Mi8 also comes with an Samsung AMOLED, though I can't find much other reliable information elsewhere that would support this statement. Phonearena seems to be the only specs listing website that states it, too, as being produced by Samsung. However it's my first AMOLED device and I therefore can't compare to others. I've declared to myself that my next phone definitely would be one for under 200 € and would have to come with an AMOLED screen, which now, thanks to the special offer for the Mi 9 Lite, is met by both devices.
Yeah the battery point is a powerful one. I get 1.5 days of battery lifetime at most with low usage while I got almost 3 days out of my Redmi Note 4 when I didn't use it much.
Also B-S-G - afaik the most popular developer for GCam ports - is developing the GCam specifically for the Mi8 (among other devices) which almost guarantees a most recent and working GCam version for it. But I only can tell that the image quality is way better than it was on my Redmi Note 4, which on the other side just would be very devastating if it wasn't.
It'd also be worth mentioning that due to the different vendors I'd have 2 years warranty for the Mi 8 (Amazon) but none to a maximum of one year for the Mi 9 Lite (Banggood).

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mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.

what I can tell you about Mi 9 lite is : the screen is top , fingerprint on screen ( no need to turn your phone when on desk ) battery is xxl , microSD port , Irda port ( tv remote ) I use Nova rather than miui launcher and this phone is nearly perfect for what I do.

hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps

I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.

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As I pointed out I already compared both phones myself using gsmarena and just summarized the main differences upon which I wasn't able to make a decision.

kesc said:
mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.
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Thanks for your input! I have to say that just recently a colleague ordered and received his Mi 9 Lite and the In-Screen-Fingerprint seems to be quite fast and accurate at first glance.
Camera on the Mi 8 using GCam is amazing. Especially when compared to my old Redmi Note 4.
And as this is my first Amoled it also looks amazing, but I have no comparison.
I also face sudden SystemUI reboots on HavocOS on my Mi8 about once every two to three days.

seities said:
hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps
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Wow! Thank you so much for your efforts taking time to write such an detailed and honest opinion.
Talking about the Pixel Experience ROM I took a look into that and counting from release date of the Mi 8 it took about 6 months for a stable and official build to be released (May 2018 -> 25th Nov 2018).
Depending on the Mi 9 lite being released in Sep 2019 one could give it 2-3 months from now on compared to the time it took the Mi 8 to get some Official ROM support. As far as I can see the first unofficial custom ROMS for the Mi8 dropped in Oct 2018 which is 5 months after release whereas the first unofficial LOS build appeared just recently for the Mi 9 Lite. Therefore it only took the Mi 9 Lite 4 months to receive its first unofficial LOS build. So it looks like the support and development isn't that bad.
But yet it's still hard to tell how much (xda community) popularity the phone could get in the near future.
For me the battery life is one of the most convincing reason to buy. It was so satisfying to reach up to 3 days with my Redmi Note 4 without having to charge it once. I know this depends on usage but I always got at least 2 days if I wasn't at home gaming on the phone all the day.
Oh and yeah - you name it - the feeling of the vibration motor is so smooth and from the first moment on gives a so much more premium feeling than I experienced with the one in my Redmi Note 4. And yes the fingerprint scanner on the mi 8 is very fast and accurate.

Vinicius Bode said:
I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.
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Interesting point. But isn't this just depending on the ROM/software or is this a hardware issue?
I already somehow adapted to the forehead notch. I found it quite ugly the first to days. And it still is. The teardrop notch definitely is way more attractive. I guess it's missing the IR front camera, though (not that it would be that important/useful). And are the speaker, proximity sensor as well as light sensor positioned under the Amoled somewhere?