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Okay, so I just bought an S6 (coming from a S3) from AT&T. I came on here, like I did with my S3 years ago, to see the status on Root. From what I'm reading, it seems like the consensus is that AT&T phones won't be getting root or unlocked bootloaders?
My main questions is, if I return this phone(I bought it outright), and go buy it from T-Mobile, will it basically be the same as I have now but with unlocked bootloader and root? Are there any disadvantages to doing it this way? (e.g. No LTE, etc)
Thanks!
It's the same phone but good luck getting it unlocked. Even if you pay in full for it it's a pain. The only thing that may not work is VoLTE.
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androidoholic said:
It's the same phone but good luck getting it unlocked. Even if you pay in full for it it's a pain. The only thing that may not work is VoLTE.
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I thought you could request they unlock it?
if you go to there site, and go to /company/companyinfo.aspx?tp=Abt_Tab_CompanySimUnlockPolicy
(apparently can't post outside links)
Buy the unlocked version. SM-G920I. You can find it on eBay, thepowersellers.com, and a couple other places. Works perfect on AT&T, LTE and all. Unlocked bootloader, no bloat, faster updates, no AT&T bs.
gtg465x said:
Buy the unlocked version. SM-G920I. You can find it on eBay, thepowersellers.com, and a couple other places. Works perfect on AT&T, LTE and all. Unlocked bootloader, no bloat, faster updates, no AT&T bs.
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Does AT&T HD Voice/VoLTE work with the unlocked version?
Not sure how to test. My wife has an iPhone 6. Can I test with a call to her or does the iPhone 6 not support it.
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Does AT&T HD Voice/VoLTE work with the unlocked version?
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So this isn't scientific, but I called someone with an iPhone 5, which doesn't have HD Voice / VoLTE, and it sounded like a typical phone call. Then I called someone with an iPhone 6, which does have HD Voice, and it sounded much clearer to me. She said I didn't sound any different than usual, but she doesn't notice the difference between an SD and HD TV either. So I think it's working, but I don't know how to confirm 100%.
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So this isn't scientific, but I called someone with an iPhone 5, which doesn't have HD Voice / VoLTE, and it sounded like a typical phone call. Then I called someone with an iPhone 6, which does have HD Voice, and it sounded much clearer to me. She said I didn't sound any different than usual, but she doesn't notice the difference between an SD and HD TV either. So I think it's working, but I don't know how to confirm 100%.
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Thanks for checking. To confirm if it's working or not, just look at the data icon in the status bar during a call. If it drops down the 4G/H+ then the call is not VoLTE. If the data icon stays on LTE during the call, then VoLTE is active.
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Thanks for checking. To confirm if it's working or not, just look at the data icon in the status bar during a call. If it drops down the 4G/H+ then the call is not VoLTE. If the data icon stays on LTE during the call, then VoLTE is active.
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Nope, drops to H+ so I guess VoLTE isn't working at the moment, but I wonder if it just requires an APN change or something trivial. Anyone have an AT&T model that they can screenshot all of the APN settings on?
Even if I can't get VoLTE working, calls already sound great, much better than my Nexus 5, so it isn't a huge deal.
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Nope, drops to H+ so I guess VoLTE isn't working at the moment, but I wonder if it just requires an APN change or something trivial. Anyone have an AT&T model that they can screenshot all of the APN settings on?
Even if I can't get VoLTE working, calls already sound great, much better than my Nexus 5, so it isn't a huge deal.
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Bah. Thanks again for checking. I have 10 days left to decide if I want to return mine or not and get an unlocked S6. Not having root is killing
tibere86 said:
Bah. Thanks again for checking. I have 10 days left to decide if I want to return mine or not and get an unlocked S6. Not having root is killing
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I'm in the exact same boat as you... Biggest problem I can see is that I can only find the Black SM-G920I in 32gb...
I would be interested to see how rooting goes. I believe it took the community raising $20,000 to the first person able to root the S5. It took a long time but somebody finally did it. But if you root, news today said you will NEVER be able to use Samsung Pay. Not really a game changer for some people. But for me, I use Google Wallet from time to time, but I plan to fully convert to mobile payments with Samsung Pay.
I'll start it off with $20 for bootloader unlock on the AT&T S6
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I would be interested to see how rooting goes. I believe it took the community raising $20,000 to the first person able to root the S5. It took a long time but somebody finally did it. But if you root, news today said you will NEVER be able to use Samsung Pay. Not really a game changer for some people. But for me, I use Google Wallet from time to time, but I plan to fully convert to mobile payments with Samsung Pay.
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Agree. That capability far outweighs any reason to root. Wish they would hurry up about it.
I do remember, however, that Samsung tried this trick with Soft Card, but all it took to use it with root was someone making an Xposed script that masked root status from that app.
bump. i got $5 on it.
Need to know if the problem is with the phone or provider.
My husband went back to Sprint due to lack of coverage & these service issues.
We still have the same problems. Almost every time he calls me, regardless of where he is, the call does not go through. It rings a few times and then just drops or goes to voicemail, never ringing on my end or showing a missed call. On the 2nd or 3rd try it goes through and I get his call. Now this also happens when I call him. There are also many times when we connect but one of us cannot hear the other.
I am mainly at home, while he travels the U.S. as a truck driver. Tmobile did provide me with some type of signal booster for the house, but it doesn't seem to have really done anything to help with these issues.
We now are paying for 2 plans and for 3 Note 4 phones through Tmobile. This is hurting us both emotionally & financially. My husband hates to call me and our 10 calls a day has become much less & when we talk he is already upset having had to call me 2 or 3 times to get through.
At this point he wants me to join him on Sprint, but we are already paying more than when we left Sprint & we are by no means rich.... The worse thing is We are paying for 3 Note 4 phones that cannot be used with Sprint. I had to downgrade him to a Note 3. Worse I sold our Sprint Note phones when we moved to Tmobile. This is just such a nightmare.
I have to find a way to fix the issue or I will have to go buy another phone & go to Sprint & continue paying for Tmobile until all 3 phones are paid for
I had similar problems, you can try to turn off VoLTE, voice over LTE. What number has your signal transmit booster? How many bars has the receiver booster? How many bars you have without the booster?
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wow that sucks... ive experienced similar issues. im pretty sure its a service problem. i cant imagine 3 different phones have the same problem but then again im in that exact situation. ( all 3 note 4s have the same issue). try putting you sim in an old phone and see if it clears up. try to isolate the problem to either the phone or service.
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Need to know if the problem is with the phone or provider.
My husband went back to Sprint due to lack of coverage & these service issues.
We still have the same problems. Almost every time he calls me, regardless of where he is, the call does not go through. It rings a few times and then just drops or goes to voicemail, never ringing on my end or showing a missed call. On the 2nd or 3rd try it goes through and I get his call. Now this also happens when I call him. There are also many times when we connect but one of us cannot hear the other.
I am mainly at home, while he travels the U.S. as a truck driver. Tmobile did provide me with some type of signal booster for the house, but it doesn't seem to have really done anything to help with these issues.
We now are paying for 2 plans and for 3 Note 4 phones through Tmobile. This is hurting us both emotionally & financially. My husband hates to call me and our 10 calls a day has become much less & when we talk he is already upset having had to call me 2 or 3 times to get through.
At this point he wants me to join him on Sprint, but we are already paying more than when we left Sprint & we are by no means rich.... The worse thing is We are paying for 3 Note 4 phones that cannot be used with Sprint. I had to downgrade him to a Note 3. Worse I sold our Sprint Note phones when we moved to Tmobile. This is just such a nightmare.
I have to find a way to fix the issue or I will have to go buy another phone & go to Sprint & continue paying for Tmobile until all 3 phones are paid for
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Well first it might be ur phone. If ur signal is not strong at home tell Tmobile and u will get a booster for your house. Also have them refresh u on network. On his end if he a truck driver T-Mobile nor any carrier covers all of the USA. You gonna have dead spots while driving thru ghost towns. If he is in major city then he should be good. No phone works every place. I have had them all and while traveling Verizon was the best but my ass bleed paying 400-700 a month for my phones as data was a killer. Now I don't travel as much and Tmobile has been great.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
Thanks for replys... it was a defective phone!
I cannot believe after over 6 months with the same problem no one at T Mobile ever suggested it was the phone. in the very beginning they did replace the SIM cards our phones but it did not fix the problem. after giving it a lot of thought I realize that my phone was the common denominator in the problem. I put my sim card in our backup note 4 phone that my husband is obviously no longer using since he went to sprint. All weekend my service was fine. my husband was able to call me and get through and I was able to call him and get through every time. T Mobile is going to send me a replacement. Very happy that it wasn't the service and that I'm not going to have to switch to sprint which would have been a severe financial hardship for us. thank you to those who replied trying to help me with this issue. Much appreciated
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I cannot believe after over 6 months with the same problem no one at T Mobile ever suggested it was the phone. in the very beginning they did replace the SIM cards our phones but it did not fix the problem. after giving it a lot of thought I realize that my phone was the common denominator in the problem. I put my sim card in our backup note 4 phone that my husband is obviously no longer using since he went to sprint. All weekend my service was fine. my husband was able to call me and get through and I was able to call him and get through every time. T Mobile is going to send me a replacement. Very happy that it wasn't the service and that I'm not going to have to switch to sprint which would have been a severe financial hardship for us. thank you to those who replied trying to help me with this issue. Much appreciated
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Personally I feel sprint sucks lol. Glad u found issue
BAD ASS NOTE 4
Best Buy has preorders for both the carrier locked and unlocked versions of the Note 8. I am coming off of a Note 4, and am very interested in the Note 8. My question is, are there any real benefits to me for buying the unlocked version vs. the Verizon version.
In the area in which I live, cell service mostly sucks across the board, but Verizon sucks the least. So I will not be changing carriers. So far, this is the pros/cons list based on the information that I've been able to find. I might be incorrect about one or more of these.
Pros:
Can change carriers whenever.
No carrier bloat.
Might get future updates more quickly.
Cons:
Might lose wifi calling.
Might lose wireless hotspot
Insurance is more expensive.
Best Buy has deals on pre-orders. For any Note 8, you get either a free memory card and wireless charging dock, or a Gear 365 camera. If you have their Best Buy card, then they have 24 month no interest financing. If you buy a carrier version of the phone, in addition to the other freebies, you get up to $150 off. The price of a Verizon Note 8 is $33.78 per month. The price of the unlocked Note 8 is $38.74 per month. Verizon also has a trade-in on my Note 4 of $240, which knocks the price down to $22.75 per month.
So given all of this, is there a compelling reason to get an unlocked phone? I know that carrier bloatware sucks, but there are solutions for it. At least there are on my Note 4.
One other question is, if I got a phone not tied to a carrier, does that make it easier to root in the future?
I pre ordered the unlocked phone and the reason was what happened to me with the note 7 (both times) and the ability to switch from AT&T to Verizon if I want to. Also lack of carrier bloat. Samsung has insurance for 12 bucks a month that is better than the carrier crap insurance. Wifi calling is a non issue for me, didn't realize that I might not have hot spot, but unlocked will get root first, and then Hotspot no trouble.
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I too pre ordered the unlocked version from samsung's website. I am with att right now and is planning to switch to t-mobile of project fi. not sure yet which of the two. but defintely a good plus having the unlocked version. I am not really concerned about wi fi calling since majority of the stuff i do to communicate is through text messages and through facebook messenger.
I have a unlock S8. I use it 100% fine on my T-mobile. But I can't do video call to another T-mobile customer. Thats the only difference.
I picked up the AT&T variant. My insurance is only $8.99 and if I call before 4pm I will have my phone the next day. Also if I need to warranty my phone they will send me another phone before I have to ship mine back to them. I'm not worried about bloat if that was the case I would just buy a OnePlus 5 or wait for the Pixel 2 you can uninstall or disable anything you don't want. I really don't see a need to root anymore. Im not all about flashing ROMs just to lose the features that make the Note the Note.
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i preordered ATT note8, i worry the unlocked note8 wont have all the att LTE bands.
on my att galaxy s8+ i getting 115mb down, 28mb up on att LTE Advanced
Speaking from my experience here in the UK, I have found that locked phones are a bad deal generally. They don't get the latest updates very quickly and you can only stick with one SIM card. They also devalue the phone when you want to sell it, and whilst you could use an unlocking service, they aren't always available for you phone or carrier combo.
You don't really get much (if any) carrier bloatware here however, so that's not a consideration. WiFi calling doesn't always deliver a good call connection and I have had occasional issues with this when using my hands-free car connection.
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I picked up the AT&T variant. My insurance is only $8.99 and if I call before 4pm I will have my phone the next day. Also if I need to warranty my phone they will send me another phone before I have to ship mine back to them. I'm not worried about bloat if that was the case I would just buy a OnePlus 5 or wait for the Pixel 2 you can uninstall or disable anything you don't want. I really don't see a need to root anymore. Im not all about flashing ROMs just to lose the features that make the Note the Note.
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For me, root is only useful for two reasons.
1. Ad blocking.
2. Tracking down the nuisance wakelocks that android always seems to have. I've had many android phones going back to the Evo, and the only ones that I didn't end up hating were the ones that I could root. My most current phone is a Note 4 and I blew it and lost root a couple of weeks ago and couldn't get it back. Now I can't tell what's keeping my phone awake all of the time.
I'm not into flashing anymore. When I had the Evo, I must have flashed it with 100 different ROMs. Now I just want a stable phone that doesn't get killed by wakelocks.
Battery life has been good to me on my last couple of Android devices. As far as updates on my S8+ I'm running the most current software and security patch that the unlocked unbranded has.
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My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
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My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
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Been done many times over on s8 unlocked so I'd think yes.
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pete4k said:
My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
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I don't understand all of this rhetoric about wifi calling not working. I had a mid level Samsung Grand Prime from Sprint that did not have ANY service hooked up to it. I think the previous owner that sold it on ebay left his sim card in it since he switched carriers but I never hooked it up to service and for a time of many months, went around making wifi calls anywhere there was a wifi connection just to go off the grid and remember what it was like when we didn't have mobile phones and the only communication when out-and-around town, was a pay phone on the corner gas station ...... if it didn't have two or three people waiting in line to use it.
I understand that some carriers software disable their wifi calling features in some models of phones because they don't want anyone to be able to make a call unless they are paying for service, but seams from my experience that it only requires network service provisioning which is probably why my GP worked with the SIM, even though it wasn't active which means that it SHOULD work on any phone with any carrier that has a network SIM regardless of it being active with service. I realize (although not personally experienced) that some carriers disable wifi calling in their branded phones even with provisioning and SIM unless there is active service and I think some disable it even with active service so as to charge extra for it, am I right? That should be fixable by a patch or something. Do not all ROM's correct that nad make wifi calling work?
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PS. I think unlocked branded phones are the way to go just because of the lack of bloatware and ability to switch carriers at will and/or pop in a SIM from another carrier where you don't have good coverage or travel out of the country. To highlight, I just this year worked in two different towns where T-mobile had almost nonexistent coverage (one of which was instrumental in loosing a job) and being able to pop in a pre-paid sim would have corrected that. I thought this 2-3 years ago but didn't listen to myself and purchased a T-Mobile Note 8 last year and have been kicking myself for it ever since.
I prefer having a unlocked device that way I can use it with any Cell Provider I want.
I just purchased and received my Note 9 SM-N960F/DS 512GB. The phone was shipped from China but I’m assuming it’s the International version. I popped in my AT&T sim and immediately noticed I have a horrible mobile signal. I live outside of Washington DC and my cell reception has always been great as I’m coming from a OnePlus 5T. After enabling wifi I recieved several OTA updates and now I’m on latest FXXU2ARJ1 with build # RK2. I’ve been reading about possiby changing the CSC but I’m not seeing much about ATT carrier aggregation. The cell reception is so bad I’m considering returning the phone. Any advice or suggestions? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
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I too have the same note as you. I also have a OP6.
I have been comparing the cell signal of the two. I get pretty mixed results. The Exynos has a different modem entirely and I think I do get some carrier aggregation (4g+) on ATT but I do not on my TMO sim.
It's really hard to compare the two but I do have decent signal albeit it TMO is better on my OP6 - ATT seems to be about equal where I am. I also don't get WiFi calling or VoLTE. I'm torn on which phone to keep at this point but the screen and speakers are so good on the note. I do worry about the signal on the phone but so far it hasn't been an issue really.
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I too have the same note as you. I also have a OP6.
I have been comparing the cell signal of the two. I get pretty mixed results. The Exynos has a different modem entirely and I think I do get some carrier aggregation (4g+) on ATT but I do not on my TMO sim.
It's really hard to compare the two but I do have decent signal albeit it TMO is better on my OP6 - ATT seems to be about equal where I am. I also don't get WiFi calling or VoLTE. I'm torn on which phone to keep at this point but the screen and speakers are so good on the note. I do worry about the signal on the phone but so far it hasn't been an issue really.
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That's great info. Although I have the dual sim version, I'm only utilizing one sim at the moment. I too am coming from OP but OP5T. Before I purchased this phone, I was completely torn for days trying to decide between the Note 9 & OP6T. Finally I decided on Note 9 just to try something different but I didn't realize the LTE signal would be so poor. I also purchased the exy version because of the unlockable bootloader and root potential. In my case, the phone is almost unusable unless I'm on wifi. I switched the sim from 1 to 2 and I noticed a slight difference in signal but not much. I'm considering returning the Note 9 and just going with OP6T although like you stated, I loved the screen, camera, speakers, and features but then again I did spend over 1K US! I'm disappointed with the lack of LTE. I think it's a deal breaker unfortunately.
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I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input
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I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input
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All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile
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All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile
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But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well
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But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well
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You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.
Jammol said:
You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.
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Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time
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Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time
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You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.
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You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.
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His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.
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His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.
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Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.
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Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.
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Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again
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Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again
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Yes. I think it may make no difference at all, or it might (much to gain, but nothing to lose), but most of the evidence in these forums, when it comes to connection quality, is extremely variable and anecdotal. Nobody can know an answer to this kind of question, unless they test it out for themselves. Good luck!